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BlackOp 11-13-2018 02:15 AM

If KC is 13-1....do you rest the starters?
 
Obliviously a few things have to break right for KC to see this scenario to play out....but its not out of the realm of happening. NE has a road game against the Steelers and Vikings at home. Chargers have Bengals/Ravens and road games against Steelers and Denver.

If KC wins this week....they realistically could be sitting at 13-1 with a 2.5 game advantage in the AFC.

What do you do? Do you take a 3 week vacation and avoid any chance of injury?

SPchief 11-13-2018 02:32 AM

You rest no one until HFA is locked.

Buns 11-13-2018 02:36 AM

I think in this scenario, it is locked. He is saying after week 15, the Chiefs have clinched the #1 seed. Do you rest the starters? I think that is what he is saying.

FlaChief58 11-13-2018 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buns (Post 13888917)
I think in this scenario, it is locked. He is saying after week 15, the Chiefs have clinched the #1 seed. Do you rest the starters? I think that is what he is saying.

Treat the last 2 games like preseason. Have the starters play the first half or so, then sit them 3 weeks off before our playoff game is just asking for trouble

Hammock Parties 11-13-2018 02:50 AM

I put Houston, Ford, Watkins, Hunt, Kelce and LDT on snap counts.

The rest need to go as regularly planned.

New World Order 11-13-2018 02:52 AM

Play them 1.5 quarters week 16 then sit them out week 17.

Hammock Parties 11-13-2018 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13888923)
Play them 1.5 quarters week 16 then sit them out week 17.

Andy didn't do that when we had the bye in 2016.

He won't do it now.

Flying High D 11-13-2018 06:02 AM

Well, we all know one that will be sitting. There’s that. D2D 4ever

Tribal Warfare 11-13-2018 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13888923)
Play them 1.5 quarters week 16 then sit them out week 17.

it would be like a preseason game they'll play till Andy is satisfied

Eleazar 11-13-2018 06:26 AM

Not until home field is locked down. And even then, you'd only rest them the last week, they're already going to get a week off in that scenario. You can't lay guys up for three or four weeks and expect them to come out in playoff form

RealSNR 11-13-2018 06:42 AM

Berry plays all of the snaps!

Eleazar 11-13-2018 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13888948)
Berry plays all of the snaps!

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Tribal Warfare 11-13-2018 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13888948)
Berry plays all of the snaps!

circa 2010

GloryDayz 11-13-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13888948)
Berry plays all of the snaps!

Definitely rest Berry, he needs some time off to heal.

Chiefnj2 11-13-2018 07:17 AM

Yes, rest them.

It seems like every playoff game KC loses someone to an injury and then the offense falls apart. Give the #2's some reps so they can finally step up if need be.

oldman 11-13-2018 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13888945)
Not until home field is locked down. And even then, you'd only rest them the last week, they're already going to get a week off in that scenario. You can't lay guys up for three or four weeks and expect them to come out in playoff form

I think this is the most sensible thing to do. The Steelers and Chargers (today) only have 2 losses and Houston and NE have 3. Now I realize there's a lot of football to be played, but 2 losses could put us on the WC round.

BigRedChief 11-13-2018 07:26 AM

I'm going to my first game at Arrowhead in 11 years vs. the Raiders. But, I'd rather see a Super Bowl win on TV than Mahomes play in person.

BigRedChief 11-13-2018 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13888971)
I think this is the most sensible thing to do. The Steelers and Chargers (today) only have 2 losses and Houston and NE have 3. Now I realize there's a lot of football to be played, but 2 losses could put us on the WC round.

The Chargers win out. We lose to the Rams/Chargers we are in the WC. This thing aint over yet.

threebag 11-13-2018 07:30 AM

Just rest a couple of our broke dicks

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-13-2018 07:30 AM

Mahomes doesn't rest unless he's already broken all the NFL single season passing records. And then maybe.

BleedingRed 11-13-2018 07:39 AM

No, 13-3 curse is real..... 14-2 or 15-1 please!

Not to mention that we need Mahomes to have as many’s reps as possible before a bye week.

You can guard our players sure, Hunt/Watkins/Travis/Hill snap count but you keep Oline in there with Mahomes let Robinson/Conely/Harris get reps

TribalElder 11-13-2018 07:47 AM

Last game rest the starters

I think playing the raiders week 17 will cause more harm than good

Beating a weak opponent gives a false sense of accomplishment in a time when the rest of the games are about to go up to the next level in intensity

pugsnotdrugs19 11-13-2018 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13888931)
Andy didn't do that when we had the bye in 2016.

He won't do it now.

They didn’t clinch the division that year until after week 17

mr. tegu 11-13-2018 08:49 AM

It would be a nice problem to have. I would definitely not want to rest them for an entire game. Play the entire second to last game and play the last game like the third preseason game.

Wasn’t it the Colts a while back who rested everyone in the final week, and the team they got in because of that went on to beat them in the playoffs?

jaa1025 11-13-2018 09:08 AM

If homefield is locked up then I'd treat it as a preseason game. Play your starters for a quarter or so then start pulling them. I don't support fully sitting anyone unless they are injured because they'd be sitting for an entire month if you sat them for the last two games of the season and they had a 1st round bye in the playoffs.

RunKC 11-13-2018 09:11 AM

Andy probably will but I wouldn’t.

I don’t feel comfortable sitting players for 3 weeks when the playoffs start. That’s how you get out of rythym.

bobbything 11-13-2018 09:15 AM

If home field is still in play, you don't rest anyone. If it's not, and losing two games makes no difference, then I would limit the starters' play.

O.city 11-13-2018 09:29 AM

Play til you lock in HFA. Once you do that, anyone with dings or whatnot, can sit for a bit.

I don't think it will happen though.

Buehler445 11-13-2018 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 13888916)
You rest no one until HFA is locked.

/thread.

BlackOp 11-13-2018 09:45 AM

I guess my OP wasn't very clear....

If KC is 13-1 with a 2.5 game lead....HFA is locked up with 2 games left.

Steelers/Patriots/Chargers would all have to lose one game over the next 4.

Chargers and NE both play the Steelers in the next few weeks.

BleedingRed 11-13-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13889151)
I guess my OP wasn't very clear....

If KC is 13-1 with a 2.5 game lead....HFA is locked up with 2 games left.

Steelers/Patriots/Chargers would all have to lose one game over the next 4.

Chargers and NE both play the Steelers in the next few weeks.

Still would like 14-1... Before entertaining resting

Hammock Parties 11-13-2018 09:51 AM

I tell you what I DON'T want to see if we lock it up early.

5 wide more than two or three times a game.

That's just asking for the season to be over.

GloryDayz 11-13-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13889151)
I guess my OP wasn't very clear....

If KC is 13-1 with a 2.5 game lead....HFA is locked up with 2 games left.

Steelers/Patriots/Chargers would all have to lose one game over the next 4.

Chargers and NE both play the Steelers in the next few weeks.

If that's where we are, I think a snap count makes sense. "Zero" for Berry until June.

BlackOp 11-13-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13889176)
If that's where we are, I think a snap count makes sense. "Zero" for Berry until June.

Berry is "year to year"....

Gravedigger 11-13-2018 10:49 AM

No rest! Go hard or go home!

GloryDayz 11-13-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13889182)
Berry is "year to year"....

At this point I'm sure he's good with whatever keeps him getting pay for no play (or practice). Again, he's no gladiator, just a rusty old money hound.

Sad that after all the love and support KC gave him while he suffered through his fight with cancer that he turned on the city and fans like this. And to remain mum about the details this long makes my opinion irrefutable. Just because he has no legal obligation to tell us shit, doesn't mean he shouldn't. But we also have no legal obligation to remain silent or nice to him.

I hope he never returns, doesn't get a ring (if the Chiefs win the SB), and never makes it onto our ring of honor. He needs just leave, and the organization needs to keep him away from team activities, but they won't, they're nice to a fault.

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DaFace 11-13-2018 10:52 AM

History has not been kind to teams that rest their starters. I'm fine with limiting the work for guys who are banged up (like we did with Watkins and Hitchens last wee), but otherwise...

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Rasputin 11-13-2018 10:54 AM

Wanting tickets to the Chargers game but the Raiders game would suck if Mahomes ain't playing.

Rasputin 11-13-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13889272)
History has not been kind to teams that rest their starters. I'm fine with limiting the work for guys who are banged up (like we did with Watkins and Hitchens last wee), but otherwise...

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In58men 11-13-2018 10:55 AM

Limited snaps only.

Maybe 1-2 qtrs minimum

BlackOp 11-13-2018 11:15 AM

People are saying resting players isn't a good idea...but if Hill, Kelce, Watkins or Hunt get hurt in a pointless game....the world will probably end. Reid would catch so much shit...

I'd rest everyone for as long as possible...SB or a meaningless Raider game against a one win team?

petegz28 11-13-2018 11:16 AM

I wait until we are 13-1 before I even give it a thought

ChiefBlueCFC 11-13-2018 11:21 AM

I don't think you sit the starters. But playing them for the first half and then sitting the second is okay with me. But don't like the idea of starters sitting for 3 weeks at all

DaFace 11-13-2018 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13889327)
People are saying resting players isn't a good idea...but if Hill, Kelce, Watkins or Hunt get hurt in a pointless game....the world will probably end. Reid would catch so much shit...

I'd rest everyone for as long as possible...SB or a meaningless Raider game against a one win team?

I don't disagree with the logic, but history has shown that it's a bad strategy.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/15/a-conv...-nfl-playoffs/

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The study counts teams that played their QBs but reined in the playbook or sat other stars as “full-go,” and teams that benched stars other than the QB as “full-go.” So in essence, this is a best-case scenario for the no-go crowd.

We found teams have gone “no-go” 20 times since 2005, and those teams went 8-12 in the divisional round, which includes the Steelers’ loss Sunday.

A mark of 8-12 in the divisional playoffs might not represent the same thing as an 8-12 over the course of 20 regular-season games, but consider those teams that went 8-12 had a combined regular-season record in their respective years of 244-60 (.803). Or consider the teams that they faced had a combined mark of 191-112-1 (.629). That means, using a rough estimate, those bye-week teams should have been something closer to 11-9.

But wait, there’s more. Bye-week teams that did not rest QBs in Week 17 went 25-8 (.758) in the same span. Teams that sat players appeared in five Super Bowls, going 2-3 – the champions being the 2009 Saints and 2014 Patriots. Teams that did not mail it in went to 12 Super Bowls, going 4-8.

MahiMike 11-13-2018 11:22 AM

Roll your slow...

Pitt Gorilla 11-13-2018 01:23 PM

Would rest Berry. He needs it more than the others.


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