Chiefs' Sutton looking for defense to elevate its game
 

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In other news, water is wet.....

Ground breaking stuff.

Nah, they've been doing fine.

play good football

Welcome to 6 years ago.

Eliminate bad football.

It’s a process

And there is Step # 1 to your changing defense, The DC is calling them all out!

Kansas City Chiefs defense: Shoot for average.

How about that piece of shit elevate his game.

They need to have an affair of the heart out there. Marty wherever you are out there I just hope you have forgotten the once proud KC defenses you fielded because this bunch would break your heart.

It’s a process

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**** you

The rest of his quote was “because I don’t know what hell I’m doing”.

"Where are my teeth?"

Sutton should elevate his game by jumping on the grenade and retiring tonight.

Maybe they should hire a new tackling coach.

Thread title is 4 words too long

Don’t tell me who to ****. I’ll make up my own mind.

let them play THEIR game and stop telling them to play 9 god damned yards off the line - they're NOT as bad as they've shown - he's coaching them like a reerun. they're attackers not reactors.

The irony of everyone whining about Sutton is priceless.

He should of been replaced 4-5 years ago when everyone was blowing his hose....

bob sutton has brought great shame to our people

the only answer is seppuku

We don't have one of those, can't you tell by looking,He quit during TC when he saw how bad these kids were. :D

What a clueless stooge. Retire. The have has passed you by.

DT, Big Dan Sal, James Hasty, Dale Carter, Tracy Simeon/Donnie Edwards could not elevate their game enough to disguise Sutton’s suckfest. Every time they show Sutton’s face after huge plays, he looks like a corpse. I have to think he is incompetent or dead. It’s like “Weekend at Bernie’s” where the Chiefs hold up his rotting, stinking body hoping no one notices he’s already dead. Someone at the next Chiefs home game needs to **** his purple, blood pooling carcass on live tv so the Chiefs have to give him a proper burial.

Hitchens is only in year 1 of 3 before he learns the system. You can't be mad at him

...good.

He's right.

If they can play anywhere near the way they did against Jax...

^ Need to play against Blake every week. Good call.

Yeah right.....he’d miss the grenade and it would kill a little old lady..... ROFL

Get all elevated up.

Gunther would just yell louder. That didn't work either.

I feel like Bob Sutton is oblivious to the fact that he's a useless piece of shit.

First thing that came to my mind.

Chiefs get stops when the QB overthrows wide open receivers.

RUN THE FOOTBALL AND PLAY DEFENSE!

"what time is the "Early Bird Special" at Old Country Buffet? You have to get there early, before the mashed pertaters get that hard crust on em" "Plus the fried shrimp is the first thing to go, if you don't get there for the first wave, you're waiting for a good long while for the next batch."

These are the thoughts I picture Sutton having on the sideline.


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Headline should be "Chief's defense looking for Sutton to elevate his game".

Chiefs defense looking for Sutton to elevate his game!

Damn, just beat me

All players look shitty during their first two years with Sutton. Patience, it will turn around.

LMAO

Do Your Job

I think the defense has graded out perfectly

"Chiefs fans looking for Buttons to elevate his game."

Whether you value Peter King's FB opinion or not, he essentially eviscerated Buttons in his (widely popular) MMQB column this week by dissecting the moronic defense Gramps called that allowed Brady to waltz his old ass into the endzone. He does it sort of on the sly but you can tell he is absolutely flabbergasted at how stupid the D call was:

"Third-and-goal from the Chiefs’ 4-yard line, 5:32 left in the game, Chiefs up 33-30. After watching the replay six or eight times, this sticks out: Kansas City rushes three and drops eight into coverage. Chiefs defensive coordinator Bob Sutton did something I’ve never seen before—assuming I saw what I think I saw.

• Julian Edelman, double-covered, bracketed by Steven Nelson and Jordan Lucas.

• Rob Gronkowski, double-covered by safeties Josh Shaw and Ron Parker.

• James White, double-covered by linebackers Anthony Hitchens and Dee Ford.

• Two other receivers, Josh Gordon and Chris Hogan, singled.

I don’t recall ever seeing a defense double three men on one play, but Chiefs defensive coordinator Bob Sutton—who gets a ton of respect from the Patriots—doesn’t play by everyone else’s rules.

So Kansas City rushed three: linemen Chris Jones and Allen Bailey, and linebacker Breeland Speaks. Though Speaks almost sacked Brady, and I’ll never figure out why he didn’t follow through on what could have been a drive-stopping sack, Brady got free. (Editor’s note: Speaks had a new rule on his mind.) On the replay, you see these eight cover guys myopically taking their men out of the play. But they weren’t looking at Brady. He had to be looking over the field and thinking, This is the damndest thing I’ve ever seen: three of my guys doubled! But the upshot of that was a big patch of green between Brady around the five and the end zone, and … “I’ve got to watch it tomorrow,” Brady said around midnight, “but I got close to the goal line and figured I’d try to get in. We needed it.”

Who does this? Who devotes six men to three of the opposition? Sutton did, and it almost worked. But Brady, who has a ton of one-yard sneaks for scores, rarely runs near the goal line from any length like this one. He dove (Gisele had to be covering her eyes) and made it.

Semi-lunacy there"

Link with a lot of other Chiefs stuff in it too:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-6-peter-king/

Renowned professional writer doesn’t notice that Speaks sack wouldn’t have mattered due to the penalty.

It's just coachspeak. They could be planning to gut the defense in the offseason because they know almost everyone is terrible, but he's never going to say that. Coaches are always just going to make non-statements like "need to elevate our game" "I need to do a better job" "happy with our guys" "we'll get it fixed" "we're on to Cincinnati" and other such BS. People read too much into these comments.

Given this a lot of thought the past two years. I think Sutton is attempting to run an obsolete defense at its core. It has Ryan roots. I think its obsolete because offensive players and strategies have changed, in addition to rules. The players are too fast for this scheme now, and its too hard to find defensive players that can force this thing to work. Sub-packaging isn't enough. I never like to blame failure on scheme alone, BUT, we all remember the Greg Robinson days. The fact was that Robinson's defenses over the years were either really great or incredibly bad, there was no middle ground. Vermeil's stubbornness cost us a Super Bowl in my view by hanging with Greg a year too long. I think Sutton has found himself in a similar situation. That said, the tape reveals 3 noticeable things...Hitchens and Ragland are just not cutting it in this scheme. Parker is too slow, and we aren't getting what we COULD get from Jones.

Beyond that...I don't think Houston is worth the money at that position - he just misses too much time. Berry isn't worth the trouble either at this point, money too, although if he played he disguises a lot of problems. I've been a bit disappointed in Fuller (missed tackles). I'd rather see Speaks take Bailey's spot next year and see how it goes. Not sure he can, and not confident he'll lose weight either. I expect Nelson to be gone next year. So obviously more change is coming. The biggest mystery is where is Dorian ODaniel and exactly why isn't he on the field. My best guess...they are prepping him for late in the season so nobody has any tape on what they are going to do. It could be magic in a bottle that takes a good deal of practice to set up. If that's the case, I love it as long as we keep winning as they get him ready. I just don't believe his ability is what is keeping him on the bench.

I'd take that about now.

Chiefsplanet's Rain Man looking for defense to elevate its game

When you have an offense like ours, you just need the defense to not give up cheap easy TDs and most importantly, create turnovers. It puts tremendous pressure on the other offense to keep up or catch up and of course that leads to, more turnovers. Go for strips, go for picks, etc. Basically, I'd probably play zone and have them jump the ball often. I don't know what else you do with this group besides that.

Pretty much what Sutton is doing. Play umbrella coverage most of the time and try to slow the other team down as much as possible. Make them run 10 or 12 or more plays to score, increasing the chance the QB will overthrow someone on third down or the offense will make an unforced error. If we give up a big play and they score, well, that'd have happened anyway if he were playing an aggressive scheme.

Bucs have the worst defense in the league? Fire their DC.
Cardinals have the worst offense in the league? Fire their OC.
Chiefs defense sucks? But hey....we're 5-1!!!

Don't worry, he has...

The problems with making the opposing O use 10-12 plays to score are twofold. First, it makes your D stay on the field too long and secondly, keeps your O off the field. Instead of playing it that way, why don't we just force some 3-and-outs.

And make who the DC?

Andy’s kid?
That mongoloid ILB’s coach?
90 year old Emmit Thomas?
Al Harris?

The scheme isn’t ****ing changing. They don’t have time to implement a ton of new shit in season.

Whether Sutton leaves or not, it’s rhe same goddamn defense the rest of the season.

I give literally zero ****s. It's about sending a message that this shit isn't acceptable.

If I were to see Sutton on the street I would elevate the level of his balls two feet by the swift kick he would get

Absolutely force 3 and outs if you can, we just seem to not have that ability. A combination of staff and scheme. Basically we need to hope the other team screws up.

Bob Sutton is a living Luther Van Dam.

The solution to our defensive woes....

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Can't wait until I'm pulling my hair out for a good portion of the game when we are on defense. Hopefully Ford, Kpass & Speaks are able to create some pressure and get Dalton on his backside

Also, fire Bob Sutton

Hey .... they used leather helmets back in 1940. Lots of guys didn't even wear thigh pads or rubber mouth-things. That was real football back then ... real football played by real men with real mental health issues.

Let's remember that everything is cyclical. It could well be that we're seeing the wheel of time turning back on itself and ushering in an emerging new age of bad-ass. Imagine how tired offenses are going to get after a bunch of 14-play drives against us. Plus, they're going to run out of plays eventually. What will they do then?

FAX THE OPTIMISTIC

Is Greg Robinson available? Might be an improvement.

this is like tripling down on "it's the players not the scheme." After that playoff loss it was the players not the scheme. They go out and overhaul most of the defense with younger, faster and it's even worse. So what do they do? Blame all those players too. Makes sense.

Winning cures __________.

Well said.

Well maybe Ragland can improve if he hasn't been practicing so far all year.

Clark has to step in and tell Andy Sutton isn't welcome back. He is loyal to a fault.

His players would be an improvement

Cancer?

I say we start taking a digit from Sutton every loss

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Don't trade for Patrick Peterson!!!!! We need DA PIX!!!! ! ! ! ! 1 ! 1 ! !

When does mahomes get the pull within the organization to get Sutton canned. You know Brady or Manning would be going to ownership

I think he may already have the pull, but he's too nice and respectful, imho

You'll know when he turns to the sideline and burns one into his balls just like The Longest Yard he's fed up

After watching the Chiefs on Sunday night, and being the optimist that i am, i realized something....

Our Defense is so bad that getting even one defensive stop is exciting again!

Stopping the Patriots on the first drive was exhilarating!!!! Just wish they could have done it at least one more time :(

LOOK IN THE ****ING MIRROR, MOTHER****ER!