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Rain Man 09-19-2018 06:23 PM

Who should be the next FIVE Chiefs Ring of Honor inductees?
 
They select one person per year for this honor. It appears that there's a general policy of waiting until the person has been retired from the NFL for at least five seasons, regardless of whether it's retired from the Chiefs or some other team. For that reason, I'm not including any active NFL players on this list. So no voting for Patrick Mahomes II or Derrick Johnson.

From the list in the lengthy poll to follow, pick the FIVE people who you think SHOULD be the next five. (This is not who you think WILL be, but who you think SHOULD be.)

Gimme a minute on the poll.

As background, here are the guys already on the Ring. Or in the Ring. Not sure of the terminology.

1970s
1970*Lamar Hunt, team founder and owner
1971 #36*Mack Lee Hill, Running back
1972 #75*Jerry Mays, Defensive tackle
1973 #84*Fred Arbanas, Tight end
1974 #42*Johnny Robinson, Safety
1975 #88*Chris Burford, Wide receiver
1976 #55*E. J. Holub, Center/Linebacker
1977 #77*Jim Tyrer, Offensive tackle
1978 #21*Mike Garrett, Running back
1979 #16*Len Dawson, Quarterback

1980s
1980 #78*Bobby Bell, Linebacker
1981 #86*Buck Buchanan, Defensive tackle
1982 #89*Otis Taylor, Wide receiver
1983*No induction
1984 #71*Ed Budde, Guard
1985 #63*Willie Lanier, Linebacker
1986 #18*Emmitt Thomas, Cornerback
1987*Hank Stram, Coach
1988 #44*Jerrel Wilson, Punter
1989 #14*Ed Podolak, Running back

1990s
1990 #51*Jim Lynch, Linebacker
1991 #28*Abner Haynes, Running back
1992 #3*Jan Stenerud, Kicker
1993 #69*Sherrill Headrick, Linebacker
1994 #58*Jack Rudnay, Center
1995 #32*Curtis McClinton, Running back
1996 #20*Deron Cherry, Safety
1997 #73*Dave Hill, Offensive tackle
1998 #67*Art Still, Defensive end
1999 #34*Lloyd Burruss, Cornerback

2000s
2000 #35*Christian Okoye, Running back
2001 #58*Derrick Thomas, Linebacker
2002 #76*John Alt, Offensive tackle
2003 #59*Gary Spani, Linebacker
2004 #37*Joe Delaney, Running back
2005*Jack Steadman, team vice chairman and general manager
2006 #90*Neil Smith, Defensive end
2007 #29*Albert Lewis, Cornerback
2008 #61*Curley Culp, Defensive tackle
2009 #8*Nick Lowery, Place kicker

2010s
2010*Marty Schottenheimer, Coach
2011 #31*Kevin Ross, Cornerback*
2012 #68*Will Shields, Guard*
2013 #26*Gary Barbaro, Defensive back*
2014 #31*Priest Holmes, Running back
2015 #24*Gary Green, Cornerback*
2016 #49*Tony Richardson, Fullback*
2017 #88*Carlos Carson, Wide Receiver*
2018 #88*Tony Gonzalez, Tight End

SAUTO 09-19-2018 06:25 PM

Did the chiefs pay you to find out?

InChiefsHeaven 09-19-2018 06:29 PM

How come people don't post polls first before they post the rest...I mean, the suspense is KILLING me...

ping2000 09-19-2018 06:32 PM

Longest term season ticket holder needs to be on the ring. That's a lot of money spent and a lot of heartache.

Prison Bitch 09-19-2018 06:38 PM

Need more options

Jewish Rabbi 09-19-2018 06:43 PM

I say just put Mahomes in there now.

Rain Man 09-19-2018 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13746774)
Did the chiefs pay you to find out?

Shh.

The Franchise 09-19-2018 06:46 PM

Mahomes.

New World Order 09-19-2018 06:47 PM

Patrick Mahomes

Rain Man 09-19-2018 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13746812)
Mahomes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13746814)
Patrick Mahomes

As near as I can tell, the only time they've ever broken the five-year retirement rule was for Derrick Thomas. So for god's sakes, no.

rabblerouser 09-19-2018 06:50 PM

Wow, I will cast my votes out of respect for the Chiefs legends...and the amount of time you invested in that list.

Waters
Anders
Woods
Peterson
Hasty


Dave Szott almost made the cut, but that holding call against the 'Phins...

New World Order 09-19-2018 06:51 PM

Waters, Carter, Dante Hall, Anders

penguinz 09-19-2018 06:53 PM

No Eric Warfield?

DaFace 09-19-2018 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 13746784)
How come people don't post polls first before they post the rest...I mean, the suspense is KILLING me...

You can't...

Prison Bitch 09-19-2018 06:55 PM

Alex had a higher AV score as well as more pro bowls than some of those names


Just sayin

Rain Man 09-19-2018 06:57 PM

I would go with (in descending order):

Tamba Hali
Jamaal Charles
Brian Waters
Dante Hall
Trent Green

Trent barely edged out Dale Carter, James Hasty, Kimble Anders, and Willie Roaf. Roaf is a tough to consider given his short tenure. If Carter hadn't screwed up off the field so much I'd give him the nod over Trent.

Rain Man 09-19-2018 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13746826)
Alex had a higher AV score as well as more pro bowls than some of those names


Just sayin

I believe that Alex Smith is still an active player, though. He's not eligible.

Rain Man 09-19-2018 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 13746823)
No Eric Warfield?

Oddly enough, he just barely missed. If we had 60 poll options instead of 50, you could have proudly cast your vote for him.

Jewish Rabbi 09-19-2018 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13746833)
Oddly enough, he just barely missed. If we had 60 poll options instead of 50, you could have proudly cast your vote for him.

This must have been the case with Sabby Piscatelli as well.

penguinz 09-19-2018 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13746833)
Oddly enough, he just barely missed. If we had 60 poll options instead of 50, you could have proudly cast your vote for him.

I wouldn’t have. Was just curious if you left him out on purpose or not. What about Mike Maslowski?! We have to support slow bald white guys!

smithandrew051 09-19-2018 07:05 PM

Waters, Hali, Charles, Carter, Roaf

jjchieffan 09-19-2018 07:10 PM

I only went with 3. Carter, Charles, and Hali. 3 guys drafted by the Chiefs that we're impact players and stayed in KC until near the end of their careers. I excluded Trent, Roaf, Allen, and some of the others because their time in KC was less than half of their careers. I liked Dante and wouldn't be opposed to him being g up there. He was a dynamic return man, but not ever all that great on offense, so I left him off too.

Chief Roundup 09-19-2018 07:15 PM

Sure is a lot of meh in that list. There might be a couple/few/several years of no inductees.

ILChief 09-19-2018 07:42 PM

Charles, Tamba, LJ, Dante. Fifth was either Carter or Waters but I went with Carter

EPodolak 09-19-2018 07:44 PM

Guess there was more to Carlos Carson that I can remember.

ILChief 09-19-2018 07:45 PM

Larry Johnson is criminally underrated by this fanbase

Coach 09-19-2018 07:52 PM

Brian Waters - 11 seasons/149 starts/5 Pro Bowls/2 All Pros
Jerome Woods - 10 seasons/105 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Kimble Anders - 10 seasons/94 starts/3 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Tim Grunhard - 11 seasons/164 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Trent Green - 6 seasons/88 starts/2 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros

These are my 5 choices. I would had voted for Charles and Hali, but Hali haven't announced his retirement (at least not to my knowledge), but it's pretty safe to assume that he is retired. And Charles is still considered an active player as a unsigned free agent, so he shouldn't be on the list as well.

New World Order 09-19-2018 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13746826)
Alex had a higher AV score as well as more pro bowls than some of those names


Just sayin

Alternates don’t count

WhawhaWhat 09-19-2018 08:08 PM

Warpaint the Horse.

carcosa 09-19-2018 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13746814)
Patrick Mahomes

This

Rain Man 09-19-2018 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13746917)
Brian Waters - 11 seasons/149 starts/5 Pro Bowls/2 All Pros
Jerome Woods - 10 seasons/105 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Kimble Anders - 10 seasons/94 starts/3 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Tim Grunhard - 11 seasons/164 starts/1 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros
Trent Green - 6 seasons/88 starts/2 Pro Bowls/0 All Pros

These are my 5 choices. I would had voted for Charles and Hali, but Hali haven't announced his retirement (at least not to my knowledge), but it's pretty safe to assume that he is retired. And Charles is still considered an active player as a unsigned free agent, so he shouldn't be on the list as well.

Yeah, I debated those guys because they're still technically active players, but when no one signs you by the first two weeks of the season I figure you're a long shot to keep playing. They'd be eligible at the end of my five-year period if they stay on their current track.

Rain Man 09-19-2018 10:26 PM

It's still early in the polling, but patterns are emerging. If Tamba and Jamaal are only eligible at the end of the period, our current take on the most deserving guys would be:

2019 induction: Brian Waters
2020 induction: Dante Hall
2021 induction: Tim Grunhard
2022 induction: Willie Roaf
2023 induction: Jamaal Charles
2024 induction: Tamba Hali

Let's see how close we are.

It looks like we also view Carl Peterson, Dale Carter, Dave Szott, James Hasty, Kimble Anders, and Trent Green as viable candidates who may just have to wait a bit.

Carl's reputation is rehabbing over time.

I'm intrigued by the contrast between Willie Roaf and Jared Allen. Both were here for four years and they started about the same number of games. Willie was certainly more established and got more honors for that reason, but Jared was a home-grown surprise star who was ascending rapidly. Why are we voting more for Willie than for Jared? Was it just the fact that Jared left? Was it the DUI stuff off the field? I'm curious.

Prison Bitch 09-19-2018 10:33 PM

My pick is Hot Carl

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0hxfuDCUAAQGWR.png

CoMoChief 09-19-2018 10:50 PM

Brian Waters
Carl Peterson
Dante Hall
Jamaal Charles
Tamba Hali

Mephistopheles Janx 09-19-2018 10:50 PM

Kimble Anders doesn't get near the love he deserves.

Beef Supreme 09-19-2018 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13746807)
I say just put Mahomes in there now.

Came here to post this.

CoMoChief 09-19-2018 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 13747147)
Kimble Anders doesn't get near the love he deserves.

Kimble Anders used to be ZachKC's neighbor back in the day.

scho63 09-20-2018 12:39 AM

I love you Rainman and all your polls as you put so much energy and effort into them.

However this poll sucks and is a bridge too far. Just too much.

You just pulled a Fonzie and jumped the shark! :D

Eleazar 09-20-2018 07:15 AM

voting for Benedict Charles :shake:

Rain Man 09-20-2018 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13747204)
I love you Rainman and all your polls as you put so much energy and effort into them.

However this poll sucks and is a bridge too far. Just too much.

You just pulled a Fonzie and jumped the shark! :D

Don't be Maine.

TLO 09-20-2018 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13746904)
Larry Johnson is a criminal

FIFY

KChiefs1 09-20-2018 07:54 AM

Waters is the obvious choice.

FloridaMan88 09-20-2018 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 13746823)
No Eric Warfield?

He's eligible for the Ring of Mediocrity.

oldman 09-20-2018 09:21 AM

I'm only going with 4 right now, with a save-the-space for 1 more. In this order:
Waters-What a pro, on and off the field. Winner of the Walter Payton Award. I curse the GM never to be mentioned for letting him go.
Grunhard-A rock on the line.
Hall-One of the most electrifying returners of all time.
Tamba-It's too bad his injuries keep him from being a close 2nd to DT.
I'm going to save a place for Jamaal, but it's not going to be right now.

DJ's left nut 09-20-2018 09:27 AM

Waters
Charles
Carter
Hali

And one spot intentionally left blank because Derrick Johnson is clearly the other deserving candidate. I'm a 'small ring' guy so if they just went a year or two without putting someone like Anders in there, I'm fine with that.

Most of the others weren't on the squad long enough for my tastes. Willie Roaf would get the 'Sandy Koufax' exception but/for the fact that he quit immediately prior to training camp and left us with no ability to cover the hole for him. Unsurprisingly, Trent Green's brains were immediately turned to scrambled eggs after his replacement (was it Jordan Black?) ate shit and the RB had to try to cover for him, leaving nobody to chip the guy in the middle so Green got flushed and eventually murdered by a shot that would've had Gaethers suspended had he hit Manning. Of course he wasn't even flagged.

Because - Chiefs.

EDIT: Grunhard can also bite it because the rumors are that he steers kids away from Mizzou at Bishop Miege.

oldman 09-20-2018 09:41 AM

I'm leaving a place for DJ in the 6-7 range. He'll play this year and maybe next, but he needs to be there.

Rain Man 09-20-2018 09:48 AM

I'm curious why Grunhard is getting notably more votes than Szott. I like them both and view them more or less as interchangeable.

DJ's left nut 09-20-2018 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13747535)
I'm curious why Grunhard is getting notably more votes than Szott. I like them both and view them more or less as interchangeable.

Because Soren calls him Grunny and he's on the radio a lot.

Rain Man 09-20-2018 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13747537)
Because Soren calls him Grunny and he's on the radio a lot.

Yeah, I'm wondering if we're experiencing the phenomenon we see in the Hall of Fame where the former players in the media get more consideration. If so, then I see the Pro Football HoF as less media conspiracy and more due to sportswriters not recognizing the media bias.

gblowfish 09-20-2018 10:21 AM

Since Tony G is already in, I voted Waters, Hali, Hall, Charles and King Carl. I think the ring should just be for players and coaches, but since they put Jack ****ing Steadman in there, King Carl deserves it more. He was an insufferable prick of a negotiator, but he did pull the team out of 20 years of losing and made us relevant again. And at the time of his dismissal was the LTGMIPS- Longest Tenured GM in Pro Sports.

Tribesman 09-20-2018 10:49 AM

Amerson
Scandrick
Erving
Murray
Dr. Tardif

CrazyPhuD 09-20-2018 11:02 AM

Where's
Bobby Sippio
Rich Scalon
Jesse Haynes or
Brian Shay????
:cuss:

Mama Hip Rockets 09-20-2018 05:45 PM

I voted Carter, Hall, Charles, Hali, and Roaf. I somehow missed Trent Green on the bottom, though.I would have been tempted to put him in.

Coach 09-20-2018 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13747535)
I'm curious why Grunhard is getting notably more votes than Szott. I like them both and view them more or less as interchangeable.

I was torn between Grunhard and Szott to be honest with you. Heck, you can even argue that Grunhard, Szott, and Wiegmann are all interchangeable.

shaneo69 12-30-2018 10:28 PM

Tough call and great topic. Waters has to be next in. Later Derrick Johnson, Tamba Hali, and Jamal Charles. If Okoye's in, LJ should be in, hopefully posthumously. If T-Rich is in, Kimble should be in. If Carlos Carson is in, Dwayne Bowe needs to be in. If Burruss is in, Kearney should be in. My other two would be Maas and Saleaumua, both highly underrated IMO.

Definite no on Dante Hall and Carl Peterson, and anyone other than RB's with less than 8 years with the Chiefs. I think Szott, Wiegmann, and Grunhard all deserve it as well.

Bump 12-30-2018 10:33 PM

Mahomes

GloryDayz 12-30-2018 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13746904)
Larry Johnson is criminally underrated by this fanbase

Not by me...


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