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Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 07:27 PM

Houses blowing up all over
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQrKrJCKvNY

Was a livestream but looks like it ended at 9:20

Here's another recorded earlier
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TLO 09-13-2018 07:31 PM

What in the hell is going on?

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 07:33 PM

Houses are blowing up all over ,I heard 70 so far

TribalElder 09-13-2018 07:33 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eiWIOKKuyGE" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

mlyonsd 09-13-2018 07:36 PM

I'm guessing Columbia Gas of Mass is going to have a butt load of liability payouts.

displacedinMN 09-13-2018 07:36 PM

This is one of the most bizzare things I have heard. Saw it on the news. It brings up a lot of conspiracy theories.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 07:39 PM

9/13 is the new 9/11

REDHOTGTO 09-13-2018 07:43 PM

that's freakin scary

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by REDHOTGTO (Post 13729378)
that's freakin scary

Only if you live in mass

BIG_DADDY 09-13-2018 07:50 PM

It will be interesting to see how they try and pin this on Trump like the hurricane.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 07:52 PM

Trump is getting ready to announce martial law ,but waiting for confirmation on # dead puerto ricans first

dlphg9 09-13-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13729392)
It will be interesting to see how they try and pin this on Trump like the hurricane.

Probably a gang of white trash sicking their pitbulls on unsuspecting gas lines.

Simply Red 09-13-2018 07:55 PM

we have a Cp'er in Andover.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 07:56 PM

Trump ordered all the meth labs blown

BIG_DADDY 09-13-2018 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13729402)
Probably a gang of white trash sicking their pitbulls on unsuspecting gas lines.

Do they allow real dogs in the state of Massachusetts anymore? It's kind of a cat state isn't it?

BIG_DADDY 09-13-2018 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13729410)
Trump ordered all the meth labs blown

LMAO

Simply Red 09-13-2018 07:59 PM

isn't it RJ that's in Andover?

JD10367 09-13-2018 08:06 PM

When I was a kid, the same thing happened in my neighborhood. I remember the cops driving around at 3 in the morning using their bullhorns to tell people to turn off their gas. The tenant upstairs had a stove with a gas heater on one side--basically just a large pilot light that made heat--and I went upstairs and found the pilot flame about a foot high.

http://www.celebrateboston.com/disas...-explosion.htm

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 08:16 PM

Watching the chat on that site there's speculation the gas company was hacked causing gas regulators to fail

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-13-2018 08:20 PM

Live stream went down

Titty Meat 09-13-2018 08:22 PM

Time to get paid blow up like the world trade

chiefstothehouse 09-13-2018 08:28 PM

That is crazy. I take it not many were in the homes at the time. Imagine if it was at night.

Simply Red 09-13-2018 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13729437)
Watching the chat on that site there's speculation the gas company was hacked causing gas regulators to fail


I'm not buying that one bit.

chiefstothehouse 09-13-2018 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13729442)
Time to get paid blow up like the world trade

Funny that this Biggie Rap had me perplexed for years, until earlier this year. I thought he said blow up like the World Trade bourne center or something...but he says World Trade Born Sinner, with the born sinner part not being related to the world trade part.

BIG_DADDY 09-13-2018 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13729461)
I'm not buying that one bit.

Well what about the Trump and pitbull theories? :shrug:

Simply Red 09-13-2018 09:00 PM

LMAO

FAX 09-13-2018 09:02 PM

Just to be safe, I've turned off the electricity and eaten an entire box of Beano.

Oh ... and the entire FAX household has donned Shreddies, too.

FAX

carcosa 09-13-2018 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13729392)
It will be interesting to see how they try and pin this on Trump like the hurricane.

You seem like a ****ing idiot

Fish 09-13-2018 09:25 PM

https://i.imgur.com/bTvxVty.jpg

Titty Meat 09-13-2018 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefstothehouse (Post 13729467)
Funny that this Biggie Rap had me perplexed for years, until earlier this year. I thought he said blow up like the World Trade bourne center or something...but he says World Trade Born Sinner, with the born sinner part not being related to the world trade part.

If ya don't know now ya know

Rain Man 09-13-2018 11:19 PM

I'm in Boston for a meeting and just had it canceled because of these fires. Dang it.

FAX 09-14-2018 12:02 AM

Just saw a map of the area which highlights the location(s) of all the fires. It's incredible.

This is a true disaster for those people ... 1 dead and 10 injured so far, it appears. The gas company doesn't seem to know what to do in response. They sent a very tepid tweet 5 hours after the event and residents are pissed about that, too.

I will be very interested in how this happened. Is it possible for a gas line to suddenly experience an increase in pressure? A valve or regulator failure, perhaps?

FAX

Ming the Merciless 09-14-2018 12:30 AM

Similar thing happened here and it was due to old pipes....I dont think it was 70 houses ...but it was a lot. I'll try to find the link

Bump 09-14-2018 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 13729412)
Do they allow real dogs in the state of Massachusetts anymore? It's kind of a cat state isn't it?

they say you have to have a dog license, lmao. I don't know if pits are banned or not though.

Dave Lane 09-14-2018 03:03 AM

Russian GRU hackers are taking credit for gas explosions in Massachusetts- Hackers had access to control room when they hacked gas lines in March- April.

Dave Lane 09-14-2018 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13729461)
I'm not buying that one bit.

Pretty easy to over pressurize systems causing them to fail and explode. Rick Perry (Dept of Energy) was in Moscow 2 days ago to explain new sanctions to the Russians. Then this.

srvy 09-14-2018 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 13729641)
Pretty easy to over pressurize systems causing them to fail and explode. Rick Perry (Dept of Energy) was in Moscow 2 days ago to explain new sanctions to the Russians. Then this.

:hmmm::LOL::hmmm:

Explain to us how easy this is I could enjoy a good laugh Stargazer. Dave Loon seeing Ruskies paratroopers in the sky out his kitchen window run loon run the Russians are coming.

Folks wait for the the investigation dont fall for some star photographer to speculate what happened. As someone who works for a company in the energy field especially in gas pipelines and particularly natural gas I can think of a lot of things that could cause this and not involve a Ruskie hack. Geez what a loon.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-14-2018 07:36 AM

Maybe it's NK showing Trump he don't need no nukes

Simply Red 09-14-2018 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 13729641)
Pretty easy to over pressurize systems causing them to fail and explode. Rick Perry (Dept of Energy) was in Moscow 2 days ago to explain new sanctions to the Russians. Then this.

this is my industry - it's not easy at all. There'd be layers of notifications prior to anyone actually penetrating any controls.

Simply Red 09-14-2018 07:41 AM

no offense of course.

BossChief 09-14-2018 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13729442)
Time to get paid blow up like the world trade

I remember when I used to eat sardines for dinner

Ming the Merciless 09-14-2018 08:00 AM

In the San bruno case, which was eerily similar...it ended up being defective welds, and 20% too much pressure
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_...line_explosion

srvy 09-14-2018 08:51 AM

Yeah that was a 30" transport line built in 1956. The section that blew had been apparently repaired at some point by PGE where it was welded length wise along a seam to fit together instead of normal joining of pipe by welding around its circumference. Also corrosion and weld inspection and detection was non existent then. Those large transport lines are like a MOAB when they explode.
We dont know if this is transmission or service lines yet.

scho63 09-14-2018 01:04 PM

This thread and the recent thread of "Could you Die from Farting Too Hard" may belong together! ROFL

Ming the Merciless 09-14-2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13729854)
Yeah that was a 30" transport line built in 1956. The section that blew had been apparently repaired at some point by PGE where it was welded length wise along a seam to fit together instead of normal joining of pipe by welding around its circumference. Also corrosion and weld inspection and detection was non existent then. Those large transport lines are like a MOAB when they explode.
We dont know if this is transmission or service lines yet.


I think they ended up inspecting it and it was over 1500 miles of pipeline they ended up replacing because of faulty welds....I really don;t know too much about that stuff but damn what a cluster F

banecat 09-14-2018 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13729779)
I remember when I used to eat sardines for dinner

What's wrong with sardines?

banecat 09-14-2018 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13729653)
:hmmm::LOL::hmmm:

Explain to us how easy this is I could enjoy a good laugh Stargazer. Dave Loon seeing Ruskies paratroopers in the sky out his kitchen window run loon run the Russians are coming.

Folks wait for the the investigation dont fall for some star photographer to speculate what happened. As someone who works for a company in the energy field especially in gas pipelines and particularly natural gas I can think of a lot of things that could cause this and not involve a Ruskie hack. Geez what a loon.

Trump is the greatest president ever. He's better than Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan combined and doubled. We is so lucky to be havin' him in charge

Dave Lane 09-14-2018 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13729775)
this is my industry - it's not easy at all. There'd be layers of notifications prior to anyone actually penetrating any controls.

You may know that but it’s apparent you don’t understand computers.

srvy 09-14-2018 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banecat (Post 13730429)
Trump is the greatest president ever. He's better than Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan combined and doubled. We is so lucky to be havin' him in charge

Get back on your meds fatty.

srvy 09-14-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13730396)
I think they ended up inspecting it and it was over 1500 miles of pipeline they ended up replacing because of faulty welds....I really don;t know too much about that stuff but damn what a cluster F

They are replacing pipelines all over the us 1500 miles isnt unusual. Its amazing really they have held up this well over the years. Lots of speculation from the engineers in the office today about what may have happened. I guess we will know when we know.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-14-2018 04:24 PM

Amazing w're not seeing anything on the news. I guess the Hurricane is dominating

SuperBowl4 09-14-2018 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 13729365)
This is one of the most bizzare things I have heard. Saw it on the news. It brings up a lot of conspiracy theories.

Like advanced gas meters/smart gas meter readers?

Pablo 09-14-2018 05:05 PM

This is happening to Pats fans?

Great news.

Ming the Merciless 09-14-2018 05:35 PM

1500 miles all in one place (san bruno area) after 8 people died and costing almost a billion dollars is pretty unusual.

My guess is something similarly unusual will happen in mass

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-14-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13730735)
Like advanced gas meters/smart gas meter readers?

Right, If they're tied to a computer they can be hacked.

suzzer99 09-14-2018 05:50 PM

Dozens of Massachusetts Homes Exploded. A Gas Expert Weighs In.

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Late Thursday, dozens of explosions erupted in three towns in northern Massachusetts. As many as 70 fires, explosions, and suspected gas leaks were reported to state police, with at least 39 homes affected in Lawrence, Andover, and North Andover. One person was killed when a chimney collapsed on his car, and at least 25 more people were reportedly treated for injuries.

In a statement, Columbia Gas said a total of 8,600 customers will be without service until safety teams can ensure that their homes and businesses are leak-free.

A widespread series of explosions like the one in Massachusetts is “really rare,” says Robert Jackson, a professor of energy and environmental science at Stanford University. Jackson’s studies focus on the environmental impacts of natural gas, and he has mapped thousands of gas leaks in cities around the country, including Boston. He told me that such an event is “unprecedented in recent years,” since explosions are usually isolated to a single building.

Jackson is not involved in investigating the Massachusetts explosions, but he was able to offer some insight into what could have caused such a strange, dramatic incident. The most likely explanation, he says, is the one most reports have speculated: Pipelines in the towns became suddenly over-pressurized. In the same way that high-voltage power lines traverse hundreds of miles before breaking off into lower-voltage tributaries in neighborhoods, natural-gas delivery systems consist of both long-distance, high-pressure pipelines and local ones that are only nominally pressurized and deliver gas into homes. Neighborhood pipelines are usually designed to withstand two to three times their normal operating pressure, but any increase makes gas more likely to escape.

If local lines indeed were suddenly inundated with high-pressure gas, Jackson says, that could result in an explosion in one of two ways. First, the pipes themselves could explode. Second—and more likely, according to Jackson—excess pressure could have caused gas to leak out of pipes and valves and into homes, where it could be ignited by a pilot light and send whole buildings up in flames.

In most cases, according to Jackson, such rapid pressurization would be caused by a failure at a valve that separates high- and low-pressure pipelines. As for what would lead to such a failure, Jackson says, it could be that “somebody made a mistake. To flip the wrong valve, leave a junction open. Human error is the most common source of natural-gas explosions.”

Columbia Gas’s website announced an improvement campaign just a few hours before the explosions began, though no evidence has yet linked the explosions to pipeline updates or botched repairs. (A spokesperson for Columbia Gas did not respond to a request for comment.)

A flush of gas could also occur if older valves leak or break. In 2015, Jackson and his colleagues found that cities like Cincinnati that replaced their aging pipelines had 90 percent fewer gas leaks a mile than older cities like Boston that relied on older, cast-iron pipes. Across the country, Jackson says, many local pipelines are more than a century old—including in Boston, the closest major city his team studied to Thursday’s explosions.

Even though natural-gas leaks are fairly common, serious consequences aren’t. From 1998 to 2017, 15 people a year, on average, died in incidents related to gas distribution in the U.S. “Significant incidents”—those that do things such as cause an injury or death, result in at least $50,000 of damage, or lead to a fire or explosion—happen about 286 times a year.

That might sound like a lot. But then again, the streets of Boston carry an average of four gas leaks a mile.

srvy 09-14-2018 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13730791)

Pretty much what was discussed at office today along with a few other scenarios. I dont like to speculate seeing as its not been revealed whether its Transport line or residential supply lines that I briefly mentioned in another post.

srvy 09-14-2018 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13730775)
1500 miles all in one place (san bruno area) after 8 people died and costing almost a billion dollars is pretty unusual.

My guess is something similarly unusual will happen in mass

Ive worked preliminary and construction stacking of pipelines all over Canada and US all about that length. several were brand new and a few were rehabs where the new was laid right next to the old. When it was finished and tested the old was deactivated and removed. These go in phases with a lot of pipeliners in different segments the construction is surprisingly fast.

banecat 09-14-2018 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13730649)
Get back on your meds fatty.

You don't think that Trump is the greatest president ever? And isn't fatty the pet name you have for your wife?

srvy 09-14-2018 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banecat (Post 13730822)
You don't think that Trump is the greatest president ever? And isn't fatty the pet name you have for your wife?

Personally I think our 1st President was the best. In may lifetime so far Ronald Reagan but Trump hasnt been to bad the rest have been turds since I started giving a shit about politics.

My wife is a tiny little Asian Filipina that could blow away in a strong wind. Even if she was fat I wouldnt love her any less.

Im sure someone loves you to fatty.

banecat 09-14-2018 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13730828)
Personally I think our 1st President was the best. In may lifetime so far Ronald Reagan but Trump hasnt been to bad the rest have been turds since I started giving a shit about politics.

My wife is a tiny little Asian Filipina that could blow away in a strong wind. Even if she was fat I wouldnt love her any less.

Im sure someone loves you to fatty.

Washington was arguably the best. It's also debatable how good Reagan was. It's too soon to grade Trump fairly. The rest are graded unfairly. Especially with Trump not being that much better or worse than they were

I don't even have to ask if you served now. That's good of you. Easy to say as well, but hopefully you aren't put in any position to make a choice. I'm probably in better shape than you are with being taller, thinner, and younger

Otter 09-14-2018 07:31 PM

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...re-gas/570361/

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Jackson is not involved in investigating the Massachusetts explosions, but he was able to offer some insight into what could have caused such a strange, dramatic incident. The most likely explanation, he says, is the one most reports have speculated: Pipelines in the towns became suddenly over-pressurized. In the same way that high-voltage power lines traverse hundreds of miles before breaking off into lower-voltage tributaries in neighborhoods, natural-gas delivery systems consist of both long-distance, high-pressure pipelines and local ones that are only nominally pressurized and deliver gas into homes. Neighborhood pipelines are usually designed to withstand two to three times their normal operating pressure, but any increase makes gas more likely to escape.


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