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RealSNR 08-16-2018 12:17 PM

Chiefs release 2nd unofficial depth chart
 
No, I can't find a source where the print is larger. Zoom in on your computer/phone I guess.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is the second (unofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> depth chart of the season: <a href="https://t.co/6oVZMDo0ft">pic.twitter.com/6oVZMDo0ft</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1030105777418260480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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DC.chief 08-16-2018 12:18 PM

Looks like we resigned Golden. To the ship!

Rain Man 08-16-2018 12:22 PM

TY McGill didn't get as much bump as I expected from his good preseason game.

-King- 08-16-2018 12:28 PM

Ehinger is a tackle now?
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RippedmyFlesh 08-16-2018 12:29 PM

The only thing "new" about this is a date on the doc. Pre sorenson injury plus golden may disagree with this.

PS
The above statement is in no way a slight to OP whom I am actually a fan of and not meant to be. I do not shoot the messenger.

mcaj22 08-16-2018 12:34 PM

could you imagine if week 1 theres a scenario where Eric Murray and Leon McQuay are the starters. They will give up 40 easily.

cmh6476 08-16-2018 12:37 PM

we seem to have no O-line depth and our secondary looks kinda sucky outside of Berry, but other than that looks decent.

BossChief 08-16-2018 12:39 PM

Our OL and safeties need a lot of work.

The first 6-7 games are going to be tough matchups.

I could see is being 2-4 to start the year then going 9-1 to finish 11-5 with another division title

BossChief 08-16-2018 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13676911)
could you imagine if week 1 theres a scenario where Eric Murray and Leon McQuay are the starters. They will give up 40 easily.

If Berry misses this year (that Achilles could burst at any time) the pass rush better be great or the defense is gonna get roasted.

Jewish Rabbi 08-16-2018 12:45 PM

Zombo listed as third string. Let’s hope to go that means he gets cut.

RippedmyFlesh 08-16-2018 12:49 PM

West behind Damian williams is a little surprising.

O.city 08-16-2018 12:53 PM

Interesting how some guys value certain spots.

With Dorsey our ILB spots were always also rans and DJ. The Safety position was always good.

Now it's reversed.

TLO 08-16-2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13676930)
Zombo listed as third string. Let’s hope to go that means he gets cut.

I'm fine with him being on special teams - but I hope he NEVER plays another defensive snap for us.

Halfcan 08-16-2018 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13676930)
Zombo listed as third string. Let’s hope to go that means he gets cut.

I have my doubts he will get cut. Zombo goes out early for every practice, outworks the rest and stays late, carries equipment, fetches Andy lunch, sweeps the locker room and does some sewing on the side if any jocks need hemming up- hard to cut a go-getter like that.

Zombo is a Training Camp Warrior, but a Game Day Pussycat.

JakeF 08-16-2018 12:59 PM

What happens if a starting offensive tackle gets hurt? Ehringer,Wylie? Move Irving back to OT? You know one of them is going to get dinged and missed at least a game or two.

bigjosh 08-16-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13676946)
Interesting how some guys value certain spots.

With Dorsey our ILB spots were always also rans and DJ. The Safety position was always good.

Now it's reversed.

Which safety was good besides berry?

Ron Parker is the only serviceable one i can think of.🤷*♂️

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O.city 08-16-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13676960)
Which safety was good besides berry?

Ron Parker is the only serviceable one i can think of.🤷*♂️

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They always had good bargain bin safeties that didn't suck. Abdullah, Branch, the dude that went to the Texans whose name I can't remember, Parker etc.

Sassy Squatch 08-16-2018 01:02 PM

Why the **** is Erving still the "starting" LG. If he's the best option we currently have then Veach and Reid need to be punched in the nutsack for overspending on Watkins.

O.city 08-16-2018 01:04 PM

The Chiefs organization has had a blind spot at LG since what, Waters?

O.city 08-16-2018 01:05 PM

The safety thing sucks because there were ones on the market cheap, but they didn't bring them in then Sorenson gets hurt.

O.city 08-16-2018 01:06 PM

Hankins is still a FA and would be about our 2 best DL.

mcaj22 08-16-2018 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13676962)
They always had good bargain bin safeties that didn't suck. Abdullah, Branch, the dude that went to the Texans whose name I can't remember, Parker etc.

Demps, Parker, Coleman, Branch, Abdullah. All great bargins here at safety. Now we have turd 1 and turd 2.

Sofa King 08-16-2018 01:08 PM

Thoughts on Eric Reid then?

O.city 08-16-2018 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13676970)
Demps, Parker, Coleman, Branch, Abdullah. All great bargins here at safety. Now we have turd 1 and turd 2.

Yeah, none were really great and or worth a big deal, but they were cheap and pretty good.

JakeF 08-16-2018 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 13676973)
Thoughts on Eric Reid then?

My thought is that Clark Hunt won't allow them to sign Eric Reid.

TLO 08-16-2018 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13676967)
Hankins is still a FA and would be about our 2 best DL.

No more yanky my Hanky!

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-16-2018 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13676911)
could you imagine if week 1 theres a scenario where Eric Murray and Leon McQuay are the starters. They will give up 40 easily.

Our pass rush will be so awesome we don't need no damn safetys. Just Berry.

Mecca 08-16-2018 01:48 PM

Eric Murray is really an example of if this team can coach safeties or not. He has the physical tools to be good at that position you have to wonder if what he showed last year was just that he hadn't played much to adapt to the position.

In reality Murray should be a solid safety with what he brings physically. He won't get cut just because he's a good special teamer. I do think with some time he can be a solid player back there it does make you wonder how long it will take though.

Bewbies 08-16-2018 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13676946)
Interesting how some guys value certain spots.

With Dorsey our ILB spots were always also rans and DJ. The Safety position was always good.

Now it's reversed.

I know it's a passing league, but based on what we watched last year that makes more sense. If you can't stop the run the rest doesn't matter.

And with trash back there last year we didn't give up a shitload of points in the air...

Mecca 08-16-2018 01:53 PM

The real problem is this team is paying Eric Berry a stupid amount of money and then you throw on that Sorenson contract if you are sitting down with your cap and marking down about what you should be spending on each position the Chiefs are going to be way over what any team would consider "reasonable safety money" so they may not justify being able to sign another one.

Which then that's how you sit here with them going "Let's see if these 3 talented guys we drafted can get it mentally because the athletic gifts are there"

ROYC75 08-16-2018 01:54 PM

Gee, the Chiefs don't know that Robert Golden is not gone! :doh!: :bolt:

BigRedChief 08-16-2018 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13676911)
could you imagine if week 1 theres a scenario where Eric Murray and Leon McQuay are the starters. They will give up 40 easily.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13676957)
What happens if a starting offensive tackle gets hurt? Ehringer,Wylie? Move Irving back to OT? You know one of them is going to get dinged and missed at least a game or two.

Rome wasnt built in a day. Next year in the draft we can draft a great safety and good O-Line help.

BigRedChief 08-16-2018 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13677074)
The real problem is this team is paying Eric Berry a stupid amount of money and then you throw on that Sorenson contract if you are sitting down with your cap and marking down about what you should be spending on each position the Chiefs are going to be way over what any team would consider "reasonable safety money" so they may not justify being able to sign another one.

Which then that's how you sit here with them going "Let's see if these 3 talented guys we drafted can get it mentally because the athletic gifts are there"

You think the cap is hard to manage now, wait till Mahomes is making $50 million a year.

Mecca 08-16-2018 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13677087)
Rome wasnt built in a day. Next year in the draft we can draft a great safety and good O-Line help.

Well that doesn't help that they'll probably need a CB and a pass rusher too..

BigRedChief 08-16-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13677092)
Well that doesn't help that they'll probably need a CB and a pass rusher too..

Every team has holes. Sub par talent at some spots. Thats life in the NFL.

Mecca 08-16-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13677091)
You think the cap is hard to manage now, wait till Mahomes is making $50 million a year.

Well that helps right now that they are way under what that reasonable number is.

Problem is they are also way over on some other positions. You'd hope that Veach and his cap guy do have a list like that of about what they'd like to spend on each position.

KranzDictum 08-16-2018 02:25 PM

2 FB's? Is one of them a TE too? I realize the 2nd guy won't make it past the last round of cuts but most teams don't list FB anymore.

I didn't remember you guys running a lot of 21 personnel or I formations last year.

I am old school an offset I formation with a back like Hunt gives me wood.

Skyy God 08-16-2018 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 13676937)
West behind Damian williams is a little surprising.

Lol, no.

Pitt Gorilla 08-16-2018 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 13676973)
Thoughts on Eric Reid then?

Wood.

mcaj22 08-16-2018 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13677087)
Rome wasnt built in a day. Next year in the draft we can draft a great safety and good O-Line help.

I don't understand this considering they A) made the playoffs last year and B) their spending clearly shows this is not a rebuild. They are clearly trying to compete now. You don't spend 9 million per on a LBer and 16 million per on a WR2 luxury if you don't have big goals.

This isn't the Bills where they are in a clear tank.

Skyy God 08-16-2018 03:22 PM

Odds Darrel Williams makes the 53?

He apparently is a good pass catcher and had a better YPC than Guice.

SuperChief 08-16-2018 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 13677191)
Odds Darrel Williams makes the 53?

He apparently is a good pass catcher and had a better YPC than Guice.

I'd say none. None odds. Hopefully we can sneak him onto the practice squad though.

Skyy God 08-16-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperChief (Post 13677230)
I'd say none. None odds. Hopefully we can sneak him onto the practice squad though.

I assume his pass pro is a work in progress, so the only way he makes the team is if they carry 4 RBs.

ToxSocks 08-16-2018 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13677064)
Eric Murray is really an example of if this team can coach safeties or not. He has the physical tools to be good at that position you have to wonder if what he showed last year was just that he hadn't played much to adapt to the position.

In reality Murray should be a solid safety with what he brings physically. He won't get cut just because he's a good special teamer. I do think with some time he can be a solid player back there it does make you wonder how long it will take though.

Brings physically? He plays like Jane. He plays small. He looks small out there.

I feel like the problem with Murray's game is that he lacks physicality and agression.

Rain Man 08-16-2018 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13677087)
Rome wasnt built in a day. Next year in the draft we can draft a great safety and good O-Line help.

Technically, Rome WAS built in a day. It was just quite small and was expanded considerably over the next 3,000 years.

JakeF 08-16-2018 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13677087)
Rome wasnt built in a day. Next year in the draft we can draft a great safety and good O-Line help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13677091)
You think the cap is hard to manage now, wait till Mahomes is making $50 million a year.

Clocks ticking on the whole wait-until-next-year mantra.

Signing Eric Reid fixes one problem, we have the cap space.

staylor26 08-16-2018 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13677283)
Brings physically? He plays like Jane. He plays small. He looks small out there.

I feel like the problem with Murray's game is that he lacks physicality and agression.

He’s talking about the Murray from college I believe. I understand why you came to the conclusion you did based on 2017, but I think what Mecca is trying to say (which I agree with) is that after a year learning on the job we should start to see more of that physicality. Watching him, it felt like he wasn’t playing fast and he looked like a guy who didn’t know what he was doing half of the time. From somebody that watched a lot of Murray and was a big fan as a prospect, I just do not believe he will play like that when he knows what he’s doing and masters the position.

Remember, this is a guy that our scouts said everybody at Minnesota told them was the toughest guy on the team. He was fantastic against the run on college and he was very physical.

srvy 08-16-2018 05:41 PM

Hell Tanoh Kapasanon cant even beat out the turd Ford who lives in the trainers tent.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-16-2018 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13676922)
Our OL and safeties need a lot of work.

The first 6-7 games are going to be tough matchups.

I could see is being 2-4 to start the year then going 9-1 to finish 11-5 with another division title

I’ve been saying that if they get to 3-3 they should definitely make the playoffs with decent health fortune. But I actually think 4-2 is possible if no one gets hurt before then that makes a huge difference...

Berry is key. He has to be out there to cover for our lackluster safety depth...

Easy 6 08-16-2018 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13677438)
I’ve been saying that if they get to 3-3 they should definitely make the playoffs with decent health fortune. But I actually think 4-2 is possible if no one gets hurt before then that makes a huge difference...

Berry is key. He has to be out there to cover for our lackluster safety depth...

Yep, theres an awful lot riding on how he shows this year

I agree with your take from the other day, he may well be the difference between a top 10, or bottom 10 defense... its hard to overestimate what it will mean not only to have his talent out there, but also QBing this new secondary around

Chief Roundup 08-16-2018 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13677375)
Signing Eric Reid fixes one problem

You need to move on from this line. It is tired and worn out.

RaidersOftheCellar 08-16-2018 07:55 PM

If Houston is back to wreaking havoc in the backfield (like he claims he will) and the O-line is at least serviceable like last year, I see no reason that they won't be elite.

Not that I'm terribly confident in those things happening.

Pitt Gorilla 08-16-2018 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13677486)
You need to move on from this line. It is tired and worn out.

How? It's a great suggestion to shore up a weakness.

KranzDictum 08-16-2018 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13677074)
The real problem is this team is paying Eric Berry a stupid amount of money and then you throw on that Sorenson contract if you are sitting down with your cap and marking down about what you should be spending on each position the Chiefs are going to be way over what any team would consider "reasonable safety money" so they may not justify being able to sign another one.

Which then that's how you sit here with them going "Let's see if these 3 talented guys we drafted can get it mentally because the athletic gifts are there"

I didn't know you guys are paying Sorensen $4.6 Mill a year for the next 3 years. That is a little rich for one dimensional guy.

lcarus 08-16-2018 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13677121)
2 FB's? Is one of them a TE too? I realize the 2nd guy won't make it past the last round of cuts but most teams don't list FB anymore.

I didn't remember you guys running a lot of 21 personnel or I formations last year.

I am old school an offset I formation with a back like Hunt gives me wood.

We dont run it often enough in my opinion.

srvy 08-16-2018 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 13677587)
If Houston is back to wreaking havoc in the backfield (like he claims he will) and the O-line is at least serviceable like last year, I see no reason that they won't be elite.

Not that I'm terribly confident in those things happening.

He has said that the couple of years. He has it half right he has wreaked.

Titty Meat 08-16-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13677423)
Hell Tanoh Kapasanon cant even beat out the turd Ford who lives in the trainers tent.

Tanoh hit the QB 3 different times last week against Houston.

OldSchool 08-16-2018 10:25 PM

Oh look, Cam Erving is still starting, how wonderful.

TEX 08-17-2018 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13677749)
Oh look, Cam Erving is still starting, how wonderful.

Thought the same thing. They're gonna give that clown every chance to prove that he can't play any OL position. Thus far, he's doing a stellar job of doing so. :shake:

Red Dawg 08-17-2018 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13677423)
Hell Tanoh Kapasanon cant even beat out the turd Ford who lives in the trainers tent.

No, Dorsey is a draft genious according to CP. KP is a stud. Ford is a stud because Dorsey picked him. Dorsey was dog shit lucky a little and that's it. Terrible at contracts. He's about to bring in Dez, drafted a midget QB and used his other pick on a DB and not the pass rusher Chubb. Gave a gobb of money to a slot receiver.

Mecca 08-17-2018 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13677943)
No, Dorsey is a draft genious according to CP. KP is a stud. Ford is a stud because Dorsey picked him. Dorsey was dog shit lucky a little and that's it. Terrible at contracts. He's about to bring in Dez, drafted a midget QB and used his other pick on a DB and not the pass rusher Chubb. Gave a gobb of money to a slot receiver.

Do me a favor, go compare the Chiefs drafts while he was here to the rest of the league.

Get back to me on what position he would rank in compared the rest of the league in starters/pro bowlers. I'll give you an easy start that he's in the top 10.

Mecca 08-17-2018 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13677667)
I didn't know you guys are paying Sorensen $4.6 Mill a year for the next 3 years. That is a little rich for one dimensional guy.

It's a pretty bad contract, but coaches love him which counts for about the same as shitting in my hand.

Buckweath 08-17-2018 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13677959)
Do me a favor, go compare the Chiefs drafts while he was here to the rest of the league.

Get back to me on what position he would rank in compared the rest of the league in starters/pro bowlers. I'll give you an easy start that he's in the top 10.

I'll say top 5.

And Daniel Sorensen looks like a bad contract but he had a pretty good 2016-2017 season. Anytime you are coming off a good season you are going to have leverage.


Not really related but this is why IMO the Rams should not resign Donald now just like Dorsey probably should not have resigned Houston after a 22-sack season but rather wait another season.

RunKC 08-17-2018 08:20 AM

Our secondary is going to get ****ed in the ass tonight.

Falcons have a top 5 roster.

RealSNR 08-17-2018 10:33 AM

I said I would never root for an injury to another Chiefs player after Cassel. I had to do it with Cassel because Pioli wouldn't ****ing bench him.

Cam Erving is tempting me to go back on my word. Nothing against the guy as a human, but he's a goddamn albatross whose presence on the starting OL puts our young star franchise QB in mortal danger.

Reid is tempting fate. The longer he dawdles to replace Erving, the less gel time the starting OL will have, and the less safe Mahomes will be. And also, it's Cam ****ing Erving.

kccrow 08-17-2018 10:54 AM

I'd like to see Ryan Hunter with the 1's at LG. If he isn't the answer, then I'd like to see Witzmann back there. Erving is garbage. I don't understand how he's even with the ones.

Surprising to see Deiter and Kemp that far down the depth chart at WR too. I would like to see more of Braverman as well, I really liked him coming out of college and think he's a perfect slot. I was surprised the Bears cut him after the camp he had last year.

Thought T.Y. McGill deserved some work with the 2's at least.

As an aside, I watched the Packers v Steelers last night on replay and they are deep at TE. Their 4th TE, Robert Tonyan, looks like a player. I'd like to see him scooped off the waiver wire if he gets cut because our depth chart is aids. Not sure how Ellis didn't get bumped up though, he had a decent game in week 1.

OldSchool 08-17-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13677990)
Our secondary is going to get ****ed in the ass tonight.

Falcons have a top 5 roster.

It's Pre-season.

-King- 08-17-2018 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13677943)
No, Dorsey is a draft genious according to CP. KP is a stud. Ford is a stud because Dorsey picked him. Dorsey was dog shit lucky a little and that's it. Terrible at contracts. He's about to bring in Dez, drafted a midget QB and used his other pick on a DB and not the pass rusher Chubb. Gave a gobb of money to a slot receiver.

The browns look to be a decent to good team thanks to what he's done this off season. How can you deny that
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-King- 08-17-2018 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13677990)
Our secondary is going to get ****ed in the ass tonight.

Falcons have a top 5 roster.

No they don't.
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