Would you move up to get Nelson
 

He's top 10 . a generational talent at LG. LG will finish off our offense. It would take a shit load to move there but if he falls past 6 would it be worth it ?

That position would be done for 10 years. Protection for Mahomes is priority!

**** NO! you don't ask a receiver to block at the line of scrimmage :cuss:

There's no such thing as the "final missing piece".

I'd kill Johnny Manziel to have a chance at drafting Nelson.

WTF? Taking a guard in the top 10 is dumb enough by itself. Giving up a bunch of pick to move into the top 10 to take a guard is a giant waste.

Considering the draft capital it would require, absolutely not.

We’d have to give up two or three times as much compensation as they did for Mahomes.

Personally, I wouldnt because there are another 2-3 solid prospects to be had

But with the way Veach is loading up on offense it wouldnt be surprising, and I sure as hell wouldnt be mad... just hope we do something there, and that something needs to be a ****ing tank

Sooo tired of the merry go round of lightweights at LG, get an intimidating maneater we can run behind in there for **** sake

This.

Reid seems to have a penchant for finding decent interior OL in late rounds. No thanks.

Is this a serious question?

We dont even have a first rounder. Trade up from 54? This cant be serious?

**** NO!!!!!

ROFL


No. Jesus Christ you're a dumbass of epic proportions.

Its a left ***ing guard

Did you like it when the Saints traded their entire draft for Ricky Williams? Cause this would be like that with our first round pick from next year added in.

So, no . . . . . just, no.

When did John Elway start posting here?

He wood make Eric fisher a top 5 LT

The truthful answer is no.

But I would trade up for:

Carlton Davis
Mike Hughes
Jaire Alexander
Justin Reid

We should be able to trade up into the bottom of the 1st or the top of the 2nd for one of those guys.

When we got Willie Roaf it was such a huge improvement. I have dreams of a line again. Mahomes will be unstoppable

He be trollin, we all know he is just having fun.

I hear what you're saying, but the fact is we've got a crew up there that probably struggles to average 310 by midseason... the template thus far is trying to split the difference between mauler and mover

Break that tendency at one position

Why not get a dedicated 330 pound mauler in there, who cares if he isnt all world in space?... lets get a bigass hoss who can almost guarantee a tough yard or two in that spot

Every few years there is a can't-miss interior line prospect drafted in the top 15 that ultimately misses.

Who wouldn't trade up for Chance Warmack, Luke Joekel, or Robert Gallery?

You go ahead with Ehinger and Witzmann, two lightweights who cant improve the line, only maintain mediocrity with mediocre play... stop fighting it, and start advocating for a manimal at LG

This line needs a genuine beast, it brings balance to The Force

What sniffing poo for a lifetime does to the brain, folks

Insert ahhhh Hell No gif

You're giving him way too much credit

Nope

You wanted Suh and his exorbitant demands for a declining nothing

Why not smartly invest those funds into 2 players instead of one moron?

KC is in the catbird seat, these tiresome old who gets who bets are ALL off, you AFCW turds are all just begging for a spot at the table

Carr and Keenum will be allowed amongst us without prior warning... clamber aboard or die

The Chiefs haven’t had even average left guard play over a 16 game season since Brian Waters retired after the 2010 season.

It’s a need.

I think it is withdrawal symptoms.

In all seriousness. We all believe that LG needs improved. To do so would cost us more than just picks this year and probably next. It would cost us the players that can help in other areas on the team now.
The team would be better overall to get starters with our first 3 picks in this draft and then get an improvement next year when we have a 1st along with basically a full compliment of picks, if we can't get one in the 3rd or 4th this year.

We could have moved one of Fulton or Morse to guard if this was really the "need" to put us over the top. I'm guessing the front office believes they can fill this hole respectably without committing such resources.

I’m just not seeing value at OL in this draft. The competent players will be overdrafted because supply is short. Nelson is generational and way out of reach. Wynn is likely a late 1st pick. I’m not sold on Daniels, especially with some saying he may be a 1st rounder as well.
Ragnow is my favourite, but he has to be at Center. Is it ideal to move Morse to LG? Is that an experiment Reid is comfortable with heading into the maiden voyage with Mahomes?
I’m also not crazy about a Guard at 54 however, with so many defensive needs. Smith is a solid prospect, but not before round 3.
OL will be over-drafted this year.

The topic of conversation is about trading into the top 10 from ****ing pick #54, not whether or not we need a LG.

In which case... Hog Farmer gonna troll

No way. Even if he falls to the 20s, I wouldn’t trade up for him.

Look at the history of offensive guards in the first round of the draft.

Big history of busts, very few hits, even when they hit it’s not a great pick in retrospect. For a guard to be a hit, he needs to be a pro bowler in half his years, due to the impact of the position.

Since 2010, 10 guards have been drafted in the first..only 3 have even made a single pro bowl.

Those 3 were

Mike Iupati drafted at 17
David Decastro at 24
Kyle Long at 20

Now, if we could move to the end of the first and only give up a couple fourths to move up at a discount, count me in.

not that big a need when you have four players that net over a 1000 yards in a season :thumb:

The thing is it's the ONLY position on offense not settled. And with Fisher being Fisher it would make Fisher much much much better. Just think ,if Mahomes has real time to throw, we will be unstoppable.

If Will Hernandez falls to the 40's then I say let's move up to get him.

by your logic, the more bore's you blow, due to stamina issues, the more sows they/you will impregnate for more piglets.

you would think giving up on alex, and allowing the offensive line to adjust on the fly without having to go down field would be enough for you..

i assume you have no nose or cheeks to compliment your face at this point in time.

mark my words. in mahomes FIRST season as a starter he will eclipse 4000 yards, which took alex 13 years to do with the same offensive line! ROFL

Listen here Dickhead. I know 4000 yard by Mahomes is a given . I want 6000 and Nelson is a generational player that would be guarding Mahomes for 15 years.

And it's not bore's . ITS BOARS

Absolutely ****ing not.

Sup sorter. How ya been, bud?

Gimme a list of guys you think KC will be targeting during the draft. I do think they will try to move up, maybe mid 20s at the most if the right guy falls.

Any targets that fit our scheme well in that range?

In the history of football...there has never been a team that was just one stellar LG short of a championship.

There have been many that were just one great kicker away...

OUCH! :D

Nelson Spruce?

Definitely. And then we should trade up to #7 to get the best available backup QB.

Are you kidding? Oh come on.... If the Chiefs are going to move up, they should NOT do it for a GUARD. They should only do it if they can get FB Dimitri Flowers, (Oklahoma). We need insurance in case Sherman goes down. C'MON!

Not to mention the two FB formation possibilities!

Move up from the mid 50s to top 5?

No. Only if he drops to 6 or later per the OP. Moving up to 5 would cost way too much.

I get your point Hog, but we need too much help on defense and unless that particular offensive player they have targeted and are crazy about ( assuming they ARE crazy about a G/TE) falls in realistic reach then maybe going from 54 to the mid 30's or 40's is more realistic. Trading up into the latter 1sr will cost enough so the player better be stellar. Quite frankly, I believe it will be a defensive player that will be our first pick who will fall and then we might trade up if there is a chance. Just too many holes on defense my friend.

I agree, while LG is a need, there are too many holes on D to give up a whole lot of draft capital for a LG in a thin class.

I might be the only one here who isn't ready to give up on Parker Ehinger.

The kid is technically sound, but lacked the functional strength to compete.
If he has had any chance to work on his strength training and add some weight, he still has the chance to be pretty damn good.

Him being injured just changed the way people view him because he wasn't available. I hope you're right.

I think most have disregarded him because he couldn’t get on the field last year even after returning from injury

Um, did you not watch last year when Fulton played guard? He's too slow and not mobile enough to play that position.

The Chiefs went through multiple LG's last year in Witzmann, Fulton, Ehinger in the Denver game and Cam Erving.

None of them are the solution.

:facepalm:

Consider that he really didn't play much as a rookie and only in 1 game last year after rehab, we really don't know what we have in him. I personally would've liked to retain Fulton as our C and move Morse to G but we didn't. Ehinger is just going to have to step up and we'll just run behind the right side of the line. Yes, there's room for an upgrade, but not at the expense of our few draft picks.

No. Jesus no.

He started five games his rookie season. He was okay in Pass Pro and terrible in the ground game.

Milkman touched upon the fact that he needs to get stronger but I'm not sure how much stronger he could have become while rehabbing an ACL.

At this point in time, he appears to be more of a "Swing" guard or tackle, as he played all 5 positions in college but he'll need to make a serious leap become a solid starter.

The Chiefs have a shit ton of draft picks. 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7, 7.

I still believe that's because it takes at least 12 months to recover from an ACL tear and most guys aren't near 100% until 2 years after surgery.

Ehinger didn't have surgery until late November 2016, so it's not a surprise that he didn't get a start, other than Denver, last season.

ROFL

"Trading up for a Guard".


I loves me some CP trollery!

Mahomes is the REASON you don't need Waters, Tait, Alt, Roaf, and Shields.

Luxury Line.

Fix this putrid D and the moron running it, THEN we'll talk about upgrading the Fatties of our Lives...

The draft capital to move up from 54 to the top 10 would be enormous & set back the franchise for years.

I've heard the Rams want to move out of the first round.

To get to the 23rd pick it would cost the Chiefs their 2nd round, both 3rd's & a 4th at least.

Tony Mandarich was supposed to be the best OL in NFL history.

Total bust.

That's a doable trade.

Patriots love to trade back. They have the 43rd pick.

54th & 86th should do it.

would rather give up 54th plus Rams 2nd round 2019 pick if we're moving.