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Easy 6 03-09-2018 05:43 PM

Easy 6 Mock Draft 2018
 
Drafting need with no imagined packaged picks scenarios, everything is straight up

2 - DT Tim Settle: thickset powerhouse at 6'2 330, can push double teams back and also displays a knack for getting after the pass as well, very nimble for his size and has a nice swim move... he is the roadgrading manster this defense has been lacking

3 - CB Tarvaris McFadden: strictly a press man player which fits us to a T, solid size at 6'1 200, can flip his hips and run step for step with speed, knows how to high point the ball, is a solid boundary player

3 - SS Kyzir White: big physical wood layer at 6'2 215 will allow Berry to lose some weight and move to FS, easing the burden on his body, White is aggressive and violent vs the run and has the speed to stay with most tight ends, closes fast on the blitz

6 - OLB Kylie Fitts: would walk in as a grown man at 6'4 260, long arms and uses hands well to disrupt blockers, excellent motor will get second effort sacks, effectively sets the edge vs the run

7 - DT Kendrick Norton: has the power to win in a phone booth, can get upfield and knows how to work angles, has good get off at the snap, good swim move and is very agile at 6'2 315

7 - CB Michael Joseph: solid developmental prospect with the speed, fluidity, and size at 6'1 185 to play press man, solid ball skills and is a very willing tackler

ForeverChiefs58 03-09-2018 05:58 PM

Not sure who many of those players are, but I loved that you addressed so many of Chiefs needs. If 2 or 3 to hit as starters, it would really change our team and we would be serious playoff contenders.

Easy 6 03-09-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 13458848)
Not sure who many of those players are, but I loved that you addressed so many of Chiefs needs. If 2 or 3 to hit as starters, it would really change our team and we would be serious playoff contenders.

The two top guys for me are Settle and White, cover the front and back ends

Tons of people here want Settle, and he is surely a load who might just be there for us in the 2nd... so they got him!

And the reports on White suggest a real bruiser with great size, his presence would let Berry lose 10 pounds, move to FS, and not have to take on linemen in the box

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2018 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13458896)
The two top guys for me are Settle and White, cover the front and back ends

I like your initial 3 picks but the Chiefs have two 4th rounders this year, theirs and the Rams.

What are you doing there?

staylor26 03-09-2018 06:38 PM

I love the Settle pick, and White would be a solid pick with our last day 2 pick.

But I’m not touching McFadden on day 2 after that 4.67 40. Maybe in the 4th if they think he can play safety too (if he doesn’t work out at corner).

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2018 06:43 PM

This would be an awesome draft IMO and you didn’t even include the two 4ths that they have.

This scenario is why I think it makes sense for us to go WR in FA. We need a guard and backup QB somewhere too, however.

Easy 6 03-09-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13458908)
I like your initial 3 picks but the Chiefs have two 4th rounders this year, theirs and the Rams.

What are you doing there?

HEY GET OFF BACK MAN!

To be honest, I wasnt sure exactly what we had, its such an odd mix of compensatory picks 'will Foles bring a 3rd or just a 5th' and 'what do we get for Marcus Cooper' etc, this year

I bet you know for sure, but I'm not as up on all of those ever changing intricacies... heh, since I ****ed up here you should pick our two 4ths

C'mon do it, complete this mock...

Easy 6 03-09-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13458916)
I love the Settle pick, and White would be a solid pick with our last day 2 pick.

But I’m not touching McFadden on day 2 after that 4.67 40. Maybe in the 4th if they think he can play safety too (if he doesn’t work out at corner).

Ewww, that 40 is the stank... didnt know about that

What I've been reading mostly said he could turn and run with speed, if they're wrong that pick is no bueno

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13458923)
This would be an awesome draft IMO and you didn’t even include the two 4ths that they have.

This scenario is why I think it makes sense for us to go WR in FA. We need a guard and backup QB somewhere too, however.

WR, LG, and backup QB should all be free agents IMO... proven experience is preferred there

Easy 6 03-09-2018 06:52 PM

Thought about taking a project LT, but I really liked Cam Erving vs the Broncos week 17... he looked like a fit IMO

DaneMcCloud 03-09-2018 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13458924)
HEY GET OFF BACK MAN!

To be honest, I wasnt sure exactly what we had, its such an odd mix of compensatory picks 'will Foles bring a 3rd or just a 5th' and 'what do we get for Marcus Cooper' etc, this year

I bet you know for sure, but I'm not as up on all of those ever changing intricacies... heh, since I ****ed up here you should pick our two 4ths

C'mon do it, complete this mock...

Hey bud, I appreciate the opportunity but tonight, I had to make one of the toughest decisions of my life, which was to put my 14 and half year old yellow lab to sleep. She'd been falling in her pee and poo for the last 6 weeks and her health was rapidly declining.

She was surrounded by my wife and two young daughters and went very peacefully but she was literally my best friend since 2003, as we were together 24/7 for all these years.

I'll probably take a break from CP for a few days just to gather my thoughts.

bigjosh 03-09-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13459287)
Hey bud, I appreciate the opportunity but tonight, I had to make one of the toughest decisions of my life, which was to put my 14 and half year old yellow lab to sleep. She'd been falling in her pee and poo for the last 6 weeks and her health was rapidly declining.

She was surrounded by my wife and two young daughters and went very peacefully but she was literally my best friend since 2003, as we were together 24/7 for all these years.

I'll probably take a break from CP for a few days just to gather my thoughts.

That sucks Dane. My last dog was my best bud from the time i was a toddler and died when i was 19. I feel for you man.

Chargem 03-10-2018 03:10 AM

I'd take McFadden in the 4th round if his bad 40 dropped him there, maybe even second pick in the third. He was touted as a high pick, you have to trust the tape over the 40 time surely? The bad 40 is just a chance to get him at a lower slot than he probably deserves.

Easy 6 03-10-2018 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13459287)
Hey bud, I appreciate the opportunity but tonight, I had to make one of the toughest decisions of my life, which was to put my 14 and half year old yellow lab to sleep. She'd been falling in her pee and poo for the last 6 weeks and her health was rapidly declining.

She was surrounded by my wife and two young daughters and went very peacefully but she was literally my best friend since 2003, as we were together 24/7 for all these years.

I'll probably take a break from CP for a few days just to gather my thoughts.


Sorry to hear that dude, nearly 15 is a very full life for most dogs and I'm sure she lived a quality existence with you

Beef Supreme 03-10-2018 11:16 AM

Does Settle look that great on tape? Because his combine numbers were some of the worst ever. I know the underwear olympics can't tell you for certain if a guy can play football, but his numbers were historically bad.

Chief Roundup 03-10-2018 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13459287)
Hey bud, I appreciate the opportunity but tonight, I had to make one of the toughest decisions of my life, which was to put my 14 and half year old yellow lab to sleep. She'd been falling in her pee and poo for the last 6 weeks and her health was rapidly declining.

She was surrounded by my wife and two young daughters and went very peacefully but she was literally my best friend since 2003, as we were together 24/7 for all these years.

I'll probably take a break from CP for a few days just to gather my thoughts.

Condolences on your loss. Pets are like members of the family.

Chief Roundup 03-10-2018 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 13459701)
Does Settle look that great on tape? Because his combine numbers were some of the worst ever. I know the underwear olympics can't tell you for certain if a guy can play football, but his numbers were historically bad.

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Tribal Warfare 03-10-2018 03:47 PM

As I said before, It will interesting if Veach favors metrics or tape and intangibles .

RealSNR 03-10-2018 05:03 PM

What about our 4th rounders?

Chargem 03-10-2018 05:35 PM

The dream is Settle falls to the 78th pick.

Easy 6 03-11-2018 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 13459701)
Does Settle look that great on tape? Because his combine numbers were some of the worst ever. I know the underwear olympics can't tell you for certain if a guy can play football, but his numbers were historically bad.

I havent paid much attention to the combine, but thats a surprising development... the scouting reports on him are mostly glowing

Easy 6 03-11-2018 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13460144)
What about our 4th rounders?

I screwed the pooch, feel free to make it right and go get us a couple 4s

kccrow 03-11-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 13459701)
Does Settle look that great on tape? Because his combine numbers were some of the worst ever. I know the underwear olympics can't tell you for certain if a guy can play football, but his numbers were historically bad.

What ****ing combine did you watch?

Tribal Warfare 03-11-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13461613)
What ****ing combine did you watch?

They were shitty to subpar.

The kid needs to lose 15 to 20 pounds with his current muscle mass.

Chief Roundup 03-11-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13461613)
What ****ing combine did you watch?

Evidently you didn't watch this years.

Tim Settle's combine performance resembled a wreckage, and not only because he fell down during one of the bag drills. That wasn't his only lowlight, as he ran a 5.37 40, posted a vertical of just 23.5, and had a 3-cone of only 7.95. Settle was getting some hype entering the combine, but he took a step backward.

kccrow 03-11-2018 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13461829)
Evidently you didn't watch this years.

Tim Settle's combine performance resembled a wreckage, and not only because he fell down during one of the bag drills. That wasn't his only lowlight, as he ran a 5.37 40, posted a vertical of just 23.5, and had a 3-cone of only 7.95. Settle was getting some hype entering the combine, but he took a step backward.

Blah, blah, blah is all I read in that review.

Star Lotutlelei - 5.31 40, 30" vert, 3-cone of 7.76 at 311 pounds. Round 1, Pick 14.
Danny Shelton - 5.64 40, 30.5" vert, 3-cone of 7.99 at 339 pounds. Round 1, Pick 12.
Vernon Butler - 5.33 40, 29.5" vert, 3-cone of 7.82 at 323 pounds. Round 1, Pick 30
Austin Johnson - 5.32 40, 26" vert, 3-cone of 7.84 at 314 pounds. Round 2, Pick 43.

I could keep ****ing going but you get the point. That's, quite possibly, the most asinine write-up an uneducated draft "pundit" could ever put out about a nose tackle. The very fact that you guys are falling for it has me questioning you. Don't drink the Kool-Aid boys.

Tribal Warfare 03-11-2018 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13462241)
Blah, blah, blah is all I read in that review.

Star Lotutlelei - 5.31 40, 30" vert, 3-cone of 7.76 at 311 pounds. Round 1, Pick 14.
Danny Shelton - 5.64 40, 30.5" vert, 3-cone of 7.99 at 339 pounds. Round 1, Pick 12.
Vernon Butler - 5.33 40, 29.5" vert, 3-cone of 7.82 at 323 pounds. Round 1, Pick 30
Austin Johnson - 5.32 40, 26" vert, 3-cone of 7.84 at 314 pounds. Round 2, Pick 43.

I could keep ****ing going but you get the point. That's, quite possibly, the most asinine write-up an uneducated draft "pundit" could ever put out about a nose tackle. The very fact that you guys are falling for it has me questioning you. Don't drink the Kool-Aid boys.

If anything it showed a lack of preparation, which is bothersome. If he knocked his interview out the park then he shouldn't slide mucj.

kccrow 03-12-2018 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13462278)
If anything it showed a lack of preparation, which is bothersome. If he knocked his interview out the park then he shouldn't slide mucj.

The point is that he didn't have a bad combine. I don't know where you guys are getting that he had some atrocious combine. You want to see that, look up Orlando Brown. Even then, Brown wasn't THAT bad (he had a terrible 40 and terrible bench, to be expected from a guy 6'8").

You want to see the stats for another guy the Chiefs had a formal interview with?

Derrick Nnadi - 5.33 40, 27" vert, 3-cone of 8.15 at 317 pounds. He's expected to be a 3rd round pick.

Compare those numbers to most of the guards and centers that they'll be facing every day and you won't see much of a difference.

Teams don't care that much how nose tackles run in shorts. Teams care if they can play football. Tim Settle can play some damned football.

Tribal Warfare 03-12-2018 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13462334)
The point is that he didn't have a bad combine. I don't know where you guys are getting that he had some atrocious combine. You want to see that, look up Orlando Brown. Even then, Brown wasn't THAT bad (he had a terrible 40 and terrible bench, to be expected from a guy 6'8").

You want to see the stats for another guy the Chiefs had a formal interview with?

Derrick Nnadi - 5.33 40, 27" vert, 3-cone of 8.15 at 317 pounds. He's expected to be a 3rd round pick.

Compare those numbers to most of the guards and centers that they'll be facing every day and you won't see much of a difference.

Teams don't care that much how nose tackles run in shorts. Teams care if they can play football. Tim Settle can play some damned football.

Settle had a bad combine, did it crush his chances to be drafted? No, but creeping in the 1st round is a pipe dream for the kid.

KC will most likely visit Stanford and NC State who had stand out combine performances.

Beef Supreme 03-12-2018 11:43 AM

I can't find Settle's bench press numbers. Did he even do it? I watched a video that showed his spider graph chart thing and overall it was anemic, the only thing he graded out in a decent percentile was height and weight. But if he didn't do the bench, that would be better than ranking horrifically low like that chart showed.

Chief Roundup 03-12-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13462334)
The point is that he didn't have a bad combine. I don't know where you guys are getting that he had some atrocious combine. You want to see that, look up Orlando Brown. Even then, Brown wasn't THAT bad (he had a terrible 40 and terrible bench, to be expected from a guy 6'8").

You want to see the stats for another guy the Chiefs had a formal interview with?

Derrick Nnadi - 5.33 40, 27" vert, 3-cone of 8.15 at 317 pounds. He's expected to be a 3rd round pick.

Compare those numbers to most of the guards and centers that they'll be facing every day and you won't see much of a difference.

Teams don't care that much how nose tackles run in shorts. Teams care if they can play football. Tim Settle can play some damned football.

You say that but the likes of Mike Mayock said it was horrible. Maybe that is partly because of what they were expecting. I don't know, but he had a bad combine in most analyst and scouts opinions. No offense but they know more than you or you wouldn't be on here. You would have been at the Combine for an NFL team.

kccrow 03-12-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13464199)
You say that but the likes of Mike Mayock said it was horrible. Maybe that is partly because of what they were expecting. I don't know, but he had a bad combine in most analyst and scouts opinions. No offense but they know more than you or you wouldn't be on here. You would have been at the Combine for an NFL team.

Dumbass.

That said in my best Dane voice...

Now that we've cleared the air (and by the way no offense necessarily was taken, although that was a sad attempt at a pot shot)...

I'm not at the combine because I choose to make more money than a hack scout by doing accounting. Of course, with one undergrad major in physical education, I more than have the prerequisite skills to assess body movement and become a scout but then I couldn't pleasure your asses with my hot takes.

Also, pundits talk out of both sides of their ass fairly consistently. I gave you the proof. You can't call a workout bad when I provided a list of recent top picks that have virtually identical numbers. Who was it bad compared to? Certainly not men of similar or lesser size that play a similar position. He's right there with a good percentage of his peers. Certainly not compared to the guards and centers that will be blocking him. So, then, what is it that was so horrendous? The fact is, you can't say it was and your only argument thus far is to say "well the pundits say so." If you called it slightly below average, then you'd probably have an argument. He wasn't quite as quick and didn't have quite the burst of some of his peers in shorts. You know what though, this is the game of football. The game of football isn't played in shorts and track shoes. Settle's tape is very good. I'll take good on the field over good in shorts every single day of the week and twice on Sundays, especially when we're arguing a goddamned nose tackle.

Chargem 03-13-2018 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13464356)
Dumbass.

That said in my best Dane voice...

Now that we've cleared the air (and by the way no offense necessarily was taken, although that was a sad attempt at a pot shot)...

I'm not at the combine because I choose to make more money than a hack scout by doing accounting. Of course, with one undergrad major in physical education, I more than have the prerequisite skills to assess body movement and become a scout but then I couldn't pleasure your asses with my hot takes.

Also, pundits talk out of both sides of their ass fairly consistently. I gave you the proof. You can't call a workout bad when I provided a list of recent top picks that have virtually identical numbers. Who was it bad compared to? Certainly not men of similar or lesser size that play a similar position. He's right there with a good percentage of his peers. Certainly not compared to the guards and centers that will be blocking him. So, then, what is it that was so horrendous? The fact is, you can't say it was and your only argument thus far is to say "well the pundits say so." If you called it slightly below average, then you'd probably have an argument. He wasn't quite as quick and didn't have quite the burst of some of his peers in shorts. You know what though, this is the game of football. The game of football isn't played in shorts and track shoes. Settle's tape is very good. I'll take good on the field over good in shorts every single day of the week and twice on Sundays, especially when we're arguing a goddamned nose tackle.

I agree with Crow. I think it may just be that people get hard ons for big guys doing well at things big guys should not be good at, e.g. people creaming their pants over Vita Vea's 40 time (even though he tweaked his hamstring) comparatively makes Settle look worse for being bad at something a big guy should be bad at, especially because the 40 time is irrelevant.

Chief Roundup 03-13-2018 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13464356)
Dumbass.

That said in my best Dane voice...

Now that we've cleared the air (and by the way no offense necessarily was taken, although that was a sad attempt at a pot shot)...

I'm not at the combine because I choose to make more money than a hack scout by doing accounting. Of course, with one undergrad major in physical education, I more than have the prerequisite skills to assess body movement and become a scout but then I couldn't pleasure your asses with my hot takes.

Also, pundits talk out of both sides of their ass fairly consistently. I gave you the proof. You can't call a workout bad when I provided a list of recent top picks that have virtually identical numbers. Who was it bad compared to? Certainly not men of similar or lesser size that play a similar position. He's right there with a good percentage of his peers. Certainly not compared to the guards and centers that will be blocking him. So, then, what is it that was so horrendous? The fact is, you can't say it was and your only argument thus far is to say "well the pundits say so." If you called it slightly below average, then you'd probably have an argument. He wasn't quite as quick and didn't have quite the burst of some of his peers in shorts. You know what though, this is the game of football. The game of football isn't played in shorts and track shoes. Settle's tape is very good. I'll take good on the field over good in shorts every single day of the week and twice on Sundays, especially when we're arguing a goddamned nose tackle.

Don't you mean Milkman?
Hey man I am proud for you that you have a degree in Accounting and believe in your own evaluations of players. If you are all about money. A scout is the first step to either a coaching or management position in the NFL. Money is good but money from doing something you love is the easiest money a person will ever earn.

We will see what NFL teams think about Settle. I think SNR said it best.
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13461531)
People are going nuts over Tim Settle, but I really wouldn't be surprised after his combine fall from grace to see him get the Jerrell Powe/Cam Thomas treatment from teams and have him fall to the 5th/6th rounds while Chiefs fans go nuts every time Veach passes on him.

It's the same shit as those years. We needed big guys in the middle, and for whatever reason, we weren't able to use our high picks on the position. They eye this one particular dude who looks decent in college, peg him as the ideal 3rd round pick or so, and then when he gets passed multiple times, they go apeshit.


kccrow 03-13-2018 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13466959)
Don't you mean Milkman?
Hey man I am proud for you that you have a degree in Accounting and believe in your own evaluations of players. If you are all about money. A scout is the first step to either a coaching or management position in the NFL. Money is good but money from doing something you love is the easiest money a person will ever earn.

We will see what NFL teams think about Settle. I think SNR said it best.

Yeah, lol, probably milkman... I don't keep track of that shit much.

I did look into scouting a few years back and what some "seminars/courses" would cost. But, with kids, it just isn't the life I can afford to have. I'm happy doing what I do at the moment and if that changes, who knows.

I don't agree with SNR on Settle. I don't think he's the lazy guy that a guy like Thomas was coming out, etc. I also don't think he has blinders on when he's on the field. I think he absolutely gives it all on the field and he's done some work to get where he is with his weight. I think a team keeps him at or under 340, he's going to be pretty good in this league. He definitely makes plays away from his frame and is aware of where the ball is going. That's 90% of the battle at NT. The rest is having the strength and technique to make sure you can get there.

Easy 6 03-13-2018 08:11 PM

Hey whats up with Milkman anyway?

We should've been hearing from him these last few days, hope the old polecat is doing okay...

Mother****erJones 03-13-2018 08:29 PM

I'd be fine with Tim Settle in round 4.


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