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wheeler08 03-04-2018 03:10 PM

Shaquem Griffin. Would U draft him?
 
Play GM. Would you draft him after seeing his performance at combine? If so what round do you think he goes in?
Read a good article on him about the chip on his shoulder and living in the football facility at UCF on an air mattress.
I had heard about him early last season but never watched UCF play till their bowl game. Then he was chasing down RBs and sacking the QB, it wasn’t till over halfway thru the game that I realized he only had one hand.
Article I read said he was suited for a 3-4 defense and needed to put on some weight. And was better suited for zone as opposed to man to man. And would probably have to move from outside to inside LB

BryanBusby 03-04-2018 03:12 PM

Absolutely

I'd find a spot for him somewhere.

In58men 03-04-2018 03:13 PM

Raw talent

/CP

O.city 03-04-2018 03:14 PM

Yes

Bewbies 03-04-2018 03:14 PM

Yep. That dude is amazing.

mcaj22 03-04-2018 03:15 PM

Yes. this defense needs speed and he would fit somewhere either at ILB or that hybrid nickel safety/LB.

banecat 03-04-2018 03:16 PM

Maybe

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-04-2018 03:16 PM

Not familiar with him but if he doesn't need a helping hand I'm good.

wheeler08 03-04-2018 03:22 PM

What round do you think he goes? Article said 5-6th round. I can’t believe we had to send the Rams a 6th to take Peters. Good grief.... but I don’t think Griffin will be there in the 6th. I think he’d make a good compliment to Ragland. Surely he’s better than Zombo on the outside

O.city 03-04-2018 03:22 PM

Maybe the 4th?

notorious 03-04-2018 03:24 PM

Dude is a combine riser. He will go by the 3rd if not earlier.

NWTF 03-04-2018 03:27 PM

He looked really good in their bowl game. Instinctive player always around the ball. NFL will be huge step up in opponent size and speed for him so who knows if he could be a liability at times, but I think he will make it. He seemed undersized against LSU but just kept making plays. I dont know the grade they have on him, but a day 2 pick?

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-04-2018 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13450094)
Maybe the 4th?

We need to use our 4th for the punter from Texas.

staylor26 03-04-2018 03:33 PM

I’d conder him as early as our second 3rd, but I’d probably prefer to take him in the 4th.

Spott 03-04-2018 03:42 PM

It depends. I need to know how he feels about national anthems and such.

Mennonite 03-04-2018 03:56 PM

Bring him in for a hook.

TrebMaxx 03-04-2018 04:06 PM

I just don't know. This one stumps me.

Simply Red 03-04-2018 04:10 PM

single-handedly won this combine! Hand up!

DaneMcCloud 03-04-2018 04:12 PM

Yes, I’d take him in the 4th, if he’s there

Pitt Gorilla 03-04-2018 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 13450126)
It depends. I need to know how he feels about national anthems and such.

Honestly, that's the only thing that matters.

Couch-Potato 03-04-2018 04:18 PM

How about Maurice Hurst DT and his heart condition?

or

Troy Fumagalii TE missing an index finger?

carcosa 03-04-2018 05:01 PM

He ran a faster 40 than Saquon Barkley

Simply Red 03-04-2018 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13450246)
He ran a faster 40 than Saquon Barkley

yup

carcosa 03-04-2018 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13450248)
yup

ya

pugsnotdrugs19 03-04-2018 05:10 PM

Not trying to be a dick—can he intercept passes?

If not, I don’t know...

Why Not? 03-04-2018 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13450256)
Not trying to be a dick—can he intercept passes?

If not, I don’t know...

It's a fair question. I'm guessing he can sometimes, depending on if he can tip the ball to himself or get it in his arms. But, how many interceptions are you really banking on any LB getting in a season? 1 or 2, for the most part? I would draft this kid. Hell of an internal motivation and talent to have made it this far. Some team will take the risk and I'm guessing, get the reward.

DaneMcCloud 03-04-2018 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13450256)
Not trying to be a dick—can he intercept passes?

If not, I don’t know...

18.5 sacks, 4 Forced Fumbles, 2 INT’s, 100 solo tackles and 66 assists in the past two seasons at UCF.

I’d say he can play.

Pitt Gorilla 03-04-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13450256)
Not trying to be a dick—can he intercept passes?

If not, I don’t know...

He's a badass. Period.

carcosa 03-04-2018 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13450256)
Not trying to be a dick—can he intercept passes?

If not, I don’t know...

DJ dropped so many picks you'd think he had no hands

lawrenceRaider 03-04-2018 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13450246)
He ran a faster 40 than Saquon Barkley

Less wind resistance.

bigjosh 03-04-2018 05:32 PM

Kid is a baller. I would take him in the late second. Way more developed than Tanoh, and actually played against decent competition in college.

stumppy 03-04-2018 05:38 PM

Of course I would. Sounds like he's a pussy gettin, big dicked, QB killin, WR smashin, stud of a football player.

Beef Supreme 03-04-2018 05:40 PM

He and Jason Pierre Paul can get together and buy gloves.

But seriously, dude can play.

Chief Roundup 03-04-2018 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 13450303)
Of course I would. Sounds like he's a pussy gettin, big dicked, QB killin, WR smashin, stud of a football player.

Your handle wouldn't have anything to do with your feelings????

carcosa 03-04-2018 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 13450280)
Less wind resistance.

Shut up bitch!!!!!

stumppy 03-04-2018 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13450307)
Your handle wouldn't have anything to do with your feelings????

That may have been more of an inner reflection than outer observation.:D

Pablo 03-04-2018 05:45 PM

I watched him play earlier this season and noticed he was out there crushing folks. Always around the ball. I wondered why they were focusing on him so much, and they showed his hand after a few plays and I would have never known he had any impairment by just watching him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2018 05:56 PM

He's not playing DE, and he runs like a CB. He should have a first round grade, and if he's there in the second, the Chiefs should sprint up to the podium to take him.

Why Not? 03-04-2018 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13450260)
18.5 sacks, 4 Forced Fumbles, 2 INT’s, 100 solo tackles and 66 assists in the past two seasons at UCF.

I’d say he can play.

That's all the evidence I need. Draft this man!

wheeler08 03-04-2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13450319)
I watched him play earlier this season and noticed he was out there crushing folks. Always around the ball. I wondered why they were focusing on him so much, and they showed his hand after a few plays and I would have never known he had any impairment by just watching him.

Exactly. I thought how the hell does a one hand man tackle a guy but you’d never know it watching him! I’d like to see video of his interceptions! Hands down, a better tackler than Peters!

O.city 03-04-2018 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13450335)
He's not playing DE, and he runs like a CB. He should have a first round grade, and if he's there in the second, the Chiefs should sprint up to the podium to take him.

Do you play him at ILB?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2018 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13450371)
Do you play him at ILB?

You could play a guy with that production and athleticism all over the middle of the field.

O.city 03-04-2018 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13450381)
You could play a guy with that production and athleticism all over the middle of the field.

Someone made the comparison to Hassan Riddick and it seems somewhat appropriate.

But so much of defensive play is hand usage it’s gonna play a part in the eval

Chief Roundup 03-04-2018 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 13450357)
Exactly. I thought how the hell does a one hand man tackle a guy but you’d never know it watching him! I’d like to see video of his interceptions! Hands down, a better tackler than Peters!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XvVPdvq6thI" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

1:00 mark and the 2:00 marks are his interceptions.

RealSNR 03-04-2018 06:32 PM

JPP basically plays with one hand just fine.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2018 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13450390)
Someone made the comparison to Hassan Riddick and it seems somewhat appropriate.

But so much of defensive play is hand usage it’s gonna play a part in the eval

For a lineman or a CB it may be, but he's proven himself to be an excellent player with one hand, and he can still help wrap up with the other arm. It's not like he's going to be jamming people at the line or hand-fighting in the trenches.

Gravedigger 03-04-2018 06:40 PM

He's definitely mastered his ability. I would love to have him and I wouldn't see a downside.

Chief Roundup 03-04-2018 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13450371)
Do you play him at ILB?

With his speed he might be the extra LB/S type that we keep in on certain sets to help against the run and pass depending on what the offense does in those down and medium distance situations instead of Sorenson or another safety.

wheeler08 03-04-2018 06:51 PM

Thanks for the vid! That INT in coverage was great. What I’m most impressed with is his tackling. He wraps up every single one of them! It’s not trying to knock guys over with his shoulder pads. Maybe he can teach our guys how to tackle!

vailpass 03-04-2018 06:54 PM

Not with a high pick. The NFL isn't college and there is a question as to whether he'll be able to shed and wrap with one hand. If he was around in the 5th he'd be worth a shot. Just mho.

O.city 03-04-2018 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13450408)
For a lineman or a CB it may be, but he's proven himself to be an excellent player with one hand, and he can still help wrap up with the other arm. It's not like he's going to be jamming people at the line or hand-fighting in the trenches.

Don’t disagree but at ILB he’s gonna be asked to do a lot

I think he’s be great in the hybrid ILB safety role

The Bad Guy 03-04-2018 07:00 PM

Take him in the 3rd. He'd be the perfect hybrid dime linebacker.

Mennonite 03-04-2018 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13450430)
there is a question as to whether he'll be able to shed and wrap with one hand.


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/66Pgw_nUlMw" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KChiefs1 03-04-2018 07:04 PM

Yes

mcaj22 03-04-2018 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 13450436)
Take him in the 3rd. He'd be the perfect hybrid dime linebacker.

would you reach for him in the 2nd?

bigjosh 03-04-2018 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13450491)
would you reach for him in the 2nd?

I would. the kid is driven.

Did you see his letter to NFL personnel departments? Its like Mahomes was last year.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/sh...eral-managers/

The Bad Guy 03-04-2018 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13450491)
would you reach for him in the 2nd?

I'd be tempted. Kid can play. If you watched UCF games, you constantly saw him. He will be a glue guy in the locker room and on practice field.

We need speed on this defense and players with great instincts. He has all of that with a ton of talent.

Strongside 03-04-2018 08:11 PM

Hell yes.

Fish 03-04-2018 08:17 PM

He would probably be a handy addition to the defense.

The Franchise 03-04-2018 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13450491)
would you reach for him in the 2nd?

I wouldn’t be mad if they did.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-04-2018 08:48 PM

If there are two 3rds, I'd spend one on him. He plays a position we need to fill and his determination, talent, and drive are fairly unquestionable.
He's definitely got the "Chiefs player"-vibe.

vailpass 03-04-2018 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13450491)
would you reach for him in the 2nd?

I see you.

Iconic 03-04-2018 09:11 PM

Different question to ask:
If he had two hands where do you think he'd be drafted based of measurables and game tape?

O.city 03-04-2018 09:13 PM

Probably first round

staylor26 03-04-2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13450571)
Probably first round

Definitely

AssEaterChief 03-04-2018 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheeler08 (Post 13450091)
What round do you think he goes? Article said 5-6th round. I can’t believe we had to send the Rams a 6th to take Peters. Good grief.... but I don’t think Griffin will be there in the 6th. I think he’d make a good compliment to Ragland. Surely he’s better than Zombo on the outside

He'll go in the 2nd round, hands down..

RunKC 03-04-2018 09:55 PM

He reminds me of Eric Kendricks, but faster. Very similar players IMO

ThaVirus 03-04-2018 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13450506)
I would. the kid is driven.

Did you see his letter to NFL personnel departments? Its like Mahomes was last year.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/sh...eral-managers/

Good read. I'm rooting for him.

big nasty kcnut 03-04-2018 11:11 PM

Yeah draft him I like his drive.

AssEaterChief 03-04-2018 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13450506)
I would. the kid is driven.

Did you see his letter to NFL personnel departments? Its like Mahomes was last year.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/sh...eral-managers/

Was the letter hand written?

Prison Bitch 03-04-2018 11:37 PM

Just put him on the all hands team

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-05-2018 12:00 AM

:facepalm:

Couch-Potato 03-05-2018 12:18 AM

Where would you play him? ILB/OLB/S...sounds like he can do all three?

Nickhead 03-05-2018 01:04 AM

would he be called for holding or facemasks half as much?

i joke, what five minutes i have watched of him on youtube is far greater than the highlight reel of demetrius harris to this point :D

ForeverChiefs58 03-05-2018 05:26 AM

His twin brother is a CB, is just as fast, has two hands, and was drafted by Seattle last year in the 3rd round

ForeverChiefs58 03-05-2018 05:46 AM

Shaquill and Shaquem Griffin faceoff in 40 yard dash

Really need to be able to embed on phone

https://youtu.be/kEWPQEYrkFA

wheeler08 03-05-2018 07:20 AM

His brother was highly recruited for big schools and he wouldn’t play for anyone unless they brought on his brother. Just an amazing story all around.
Someone joked would he get called for holding. In the highlight video some of his tackles are borderline horse collar.

ThaVirus 03-05-2018 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 13450718)
His twin brother is a CB, is just as fast, has two hands, and was drafted by Seattle last year in the 3rd round

Quem has like 30 pounds on Quill, though.

The Franchise 03-05-2018 09:32 AM

NFL Media's Ian Rapoport spoke with one NFL coach who believes UCF LB Shaquem Griffin is now a fourth-round pick.

We love to hear this, and the fourth-round might be a safe projection. The conversation has shifted a bit from Griffin being a core special teams player to now potential off-ball linebacker. We have always thought he was the latter thanks to his closing speed and relentless motor.

rico 03-05-2018 09:36 AM

I would not consider him. Wouldn’t be able to trip guys up with his missing hand if he needed to resort to that.


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