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thegame214 11-26-2017 09:02 AM

Chiefs not considering benching Alex Smith for Patrick Mahomes this season
 
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...s-this-season/


Per Jason La Canfora


Despite their recent struggles on offense, the Chiefs are not inclined to make any switch at quarterback, team sources said, though the staff does remain very bullish on first-round pick Patrick Mahomes and his ability to take over as soon as next season. Mahomes continues to impress teammates and coaches with his efforts in practice and how he conducts himself in meetings and around the facility, and there is a strong sense that he could be a franchise quarterback sooner rather than later.

Even with their recent falloff in the passing game and running game, and with Mahomes' athleticism and huge arm, there is no movement to move on from veteran Alex Smith now and the only way he would lose his job would be to injury, sources said. Smith has tailed off from what was an MVP-like first half, with the Chiefs storming to a 5-0 record and being talked about as perhaps the best team in football.

They've gone into a 1-4 swoon since then and face a critical AFC game with the Bills this weekend, with the Chargers suddenly surging in the AFC West and the Raiders still capable of making a run, too. Smith has failed to maintain the big plays downfield that helped the team get off to such a torrid start -- the dink-and-dunk nature of the offense under him was part of the allure of Mahomes in the draft, as his gunslinger approach is the opposite of that -- and rookie running back Kareem Hunt has been bottled up as well.

Smith is coming off his worst game of the season in a loss to the lowly Giants coming out of the bye. He threw multiple interceptions, which is out of character for him. Coach Andy Reid was somewhat critical of his play after that, but Smith continues to get the bulk of starting reps and is entrusted with getting this team to the postseason.

However, numerous other GMs anticipate the Chiefs shopping Smith, who has one year left on his contract, in the offseason. He is signed to a team-friendly deal that is easy to deal, he would have significant value to any contending team that may want to upgrade at quarterback (Jacksonville; Arizona or Denver if they opt not to rebuild) and he is a proven, steady hand who teammates love and who protects the football (almost to a fault). The Chiefs seem poised to turn the offense over to Mahomes and it would be anything but a surprise should Smith leave Kansas City via trade after arriving there from a swap with the 49ers upon Reid's hiring.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 09:03 AM

I'm not interested in buying any Chiefs game tickets this year either.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 09:06 AM

However, numerous other GMs anticipate the Chiefs shopping Smith, who has one year left on his contract




Hell yeah the Chiefs will trade Alex Smith this offseason.

thegame214 11-26-2017 09:08 AM

Interesting timing right before the game

Pasta Little Brioni 11-26-2017 09:08 AM

And? We knew this.

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 09:10 AM

Definitely feeling like the Cassel years. Similar QB styles same results in the end.

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13237339)
...Despite their recent struggles on offense, the Chiefs are not inclined to make any switch at quarterback, team sources said...

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In58men 11-26-2017 09:12 AM

Good, there’s not ****ing point. Been saying it all year long.

In58men 11-26-2017 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237341)
I'm not interested in buying any Chiefs game tickets this year either.

Way to take a stand, you’re hardcore.

ROFL

pugsnotdrugs19 11-26-2017 09:14 AM

I'm skeptical, but if it's true then one and done is for certain.

IF we make the playoffs.

NJChiefsFan 11-26-2017 09:15 AM

For the last month it's seemed almost certain he will get all this season and then get moved.

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237358)



Their going full Cassel.

Gotta love this franchise and its quest for fail

Pasta Little Brioni 11-26-2017 09:15 AM

Sucks to say, buy why couldn't he have gotten knocked out of a game this year instead of last with that dog turd Foles?

FlaChief58 11-26-2017 09:15 AM

Continues to impress teammates and coaches, yet they trot out checkdown Charlie... Makes perfect sense

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13237369)
Their going full Cassel.

You just did...

pugsnotdrugs19 11-26-2017 09:20 AM

If Smith continues to be an absolute cuck, he will be benched... a coach can't afford to just keep rolling out a QB who plays shitty. He will lose the locker room.

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 13237371)
Continues to impress teammates and coaches, yet they trot out checkdown Charlie... Makes perfect sense



My guess is the coaches are considering this season as a transition season as most did.

They might stick to that plan and just ride it out. They as well as us know this team isn’t going anywhere.

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13237368)
For the last month it's seemed almost certain he will get all this season and then get moved.

As it should be.

Alex is here this year to increase his trade value and hold off PM for his own good...

Deberg_1990 11-26-2017 09:22 AM

Alex Smith just needs more time for the OLine to Gel

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237382)
As it should be.



Alex is here this year to increase his trade value and hold off PM for his own good...



Well he’s hurting his trade value and not holding off the national media for Mahomes.

He needs his nuts to drop and stop being a puss.

Rasputin 11-26-2017 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 13237371)
Continues to impress teammates and coaches, yet they trot out checkdown Charlie... Makes perfect sense

Why do the Chiefs hate it's fans?

pugsnotdrugs19 11-26-2017 09:28 AM

Not gonna put much stock into this article. Bottom line is if Smith continues to suck, he will be pulled. This article is probably just as likely there to try to discourage fans and media from creating the pressure to put in Mahomes.

Once the pressures starts coming from the players--and it will--Smith will be yanked.

Rausch 11-26-2017 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13237387)
Well he’s hurting his trade value and not holding off the national media for Mahomes.

He's only helped his trade value this year.

Alex only putting up a 180 yard game is no shocker.

The idea he could put up 300 vs the Pats and beat them in their house is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13237387)
He needs his nuts to drop and stop being a puss.

Agreed...

notorious 11-26-2017 09:29 AM

What do you expect them to say?

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13237400)
What do you expect them to say?



Andy swallowed a chicken bone shutting down the Golden Corral last night and is unable to coach today.


One could only hope.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-26-2017 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13237400)
What do you expect them to say?

That's a good point too.... if reporters are asking, they aren't going to say 'Yeah we're pulling his ass at the first opportunity'....

This article means nothing.

Flying High D 11-26-2017 09:33 AM

Is Alexis still depressed?

oldman 11-26-2017 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13237387)
Well he’s hurting his trade value and not holding off the national media for Mahomes.

He needs his nuts to drop and stop being a puss.

Agreed. I said this in another thread, but I'll say it again. Very 1st play in the 1st series, throw it deep to Hill on a fly. I don't care if he misses, that'll make the Bills think twice about stacking 8 in the box. Next play, Hill on another fly, Kelce at 15 yards deep, and whoever is the #2 today past the sticks.

chiefzilla1501 11-26-2017 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237382)
As it should be.

Alex is here this year to increase his trade value and hold off PM for his own good...

That's where I'm at. I hate that this is true, but go to social media and you'll see how many Alex Smith hardcore apologists there are. If pm is anything but perfect, chiefs fans are going to make his life a living hell. I don't mind Alex starting the rest of the year and yes I realize that's pretty much throwing in the towel for 2017. I think the Chiefs will get decent trade value for Smith and next year, not this year, even his biggest apologists will be fine with trading him away. Especially after our season inevitably falls short.

notorious 11-26-2017 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13237408)
That's a good point too.... if reporters are asking, they aren't going to say 'Yeah we're pulling his ass at the first opportunity'....

This article means nothing.

Every interview/press conference is a sports cliche. I don't know why people watch or listen to them any more.

You will get better answers by asking a magic 8 ball.

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237399)
He's only helped his trade value this year.



Alex only putting up a 180 yard game is no shocker.



The idea he could put up 300 vs the Pats and beat them in their house is.







Agreed...



Yes he’s helped at the beginning of the year. But going full Cassel now isn’t what this team needs from the leagues MVP.

He needs to get back to MVP alex we’ve all grown accustomed to over the first 5 weeks.

ptlyon 11-26-2017 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13237400)
What do you expect them to say?

"Alex Smith sucks"

Simply Red 11-26-2017 09:36 AM

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kcxiv 11-26-2017 09:37 AM

If he continues to suck they will. this shit is all just coachspeak right now. Thats how it should be, they arent going to open up and say, well if alex isnt playing well we might make the switch. lol

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-26-2017 09:38 AM

So, according to this article we need to either take up a banner collection or just hope for a broken fibula.

FlaChief58 11-26-2017 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237389)
Why do the Chiefs hate it's fans?

Your choice to be a fan.

Season tickets go on sale soon

BossChief 11-26-2017 09:48 AM

Let’s hope Alexfinds his balls for the final stretch and 3 teams get in a bidding war for his services in the offseason. Gettting a first for him would be amazing. We gave up 2 late firsts for Mahomes so getting a mid first back for Alex would feel like getting Mahomes for free.

Anyone thinking Andy is gonna pull Alex this year hasn’t been paying attention.

RealSNR 11-26-2017 09:51 AM

The Chiefs don't like having nice things

ptlyon 11-26-2017 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13237445)
Let’s hope Alexfinds his balls for the final stretch and 3 teams get in a bidding war for his services in the offseason. Gettting a first for him would be amazing. We gave up 2 late firsts for Mahomes so getting a mid first back for Alex would feel like getting Mahomes for free.

Anyone thinking Andy is gonna pull Alex this year hasn’t been paying attention.

This is what happens when people stay up all night drinking

Best22 11-26-2017 09:58 AM

Meaningless

Theres no reason to cause open controversy. Teams do this all the time.

Remember when fans were convinced we weren't drafting a first round quarterback this year because Dorsey said "none of them are ready."

NFL teams are secretive and deceptive, as they should be

chiefzilla1501 11-26-2017 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13237445)
Let’s hope Alexfinds his balls for the final stretch and 3 teams get in a bidding war for his services in the offseason. Gettting a first for him would be amazing. We gave up 2 late firsts for Mahomes so getting a mid first back for Alex would feel like getting Mahomes for free.

Anyone thinking Andy is gonna pull Alex this year hasn’t been paying attention.

Nobody is giving up a first. A third is optimistic. Any team trading for him is looking for a 2 year fix tops.

penguinz 11-26-2017 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13237445)
Let’s hope Alexfinds his balls for the final stretch and 3 teams get in a bidding war for his services in the offseason. Gettting a first for him would be amazing. We gave up 2 late firsts for Mahomes so getting a mid first back for Alex would feel like getting Mahomes for free.

Anyone thinking Andy is gonna pull Alex this year hasn’t been paying attention.

We only gave up 1 first round pick. The other pick was a 3rd round.

Danguardace 11-26-2017 10:12 AM

Just need Alex to pick up a foot Sprain; something to keep him out a couple of weeks.

HemiEd 11-26-2017 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13237378)
If Smith continues to be an absolute cuck, he will be benched... a coach can't afford to just keep rolling out a QB who plays shitty. He will lose the locker room.

I think he already has, but we will see more evidence today, one way or another.

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13237494)
I think he already has, but we will see more evidence today, one way or another.



Will be interesting.

penchief 11-26-2017 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 13237362)
Good, there’s not ****ing point. Been saying it all year long.

Don't count your checkdowns just yet...

Reerun_KC 11-26-2017 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 13237500)
Don't count your checkdowns just yet...



ROFL. Well played

Rasputin 11-26-2017 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13237468)
Meaningless

Theres no reason to cause open controversy. Teams do this all the time.

Remember when fans were convinced we weren't drafting a first round quarterback this year because Dorsey said "none of them are ready."

NFL teams are secretive and deceptive, as they should be

Yes there is reason to start a Quarterback controversy. Like it did to start the season light a stick of Dynamite under Alex Smith or bench his lame ass for our future benefit.

ILChief 11-26-2017 10:32 AM

When the time comes, there will be a phantom injury to avoid humiliation and preserve trade value

TLO 11-26-2017 10:34 AM

The boos will reign down on Alex from the Arrowhead crowd today, and it will be glorious.

RunKC 11-26-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13237509)
Yes there is reason to start a Quarterback controversy. Like it did to start the season light a stick of Dynamite under Alex Smith or bench his lame ass for our future benefit.

Benching Alex will hurt his trade value. That's why they aren't going to make a move.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 10:44 AM

The FO using the press here to quiet the fan base, BUT the FO can't prevent AS's neutured crappy play and is AR willing to risk losing the division to the Chargers(a la not going to the playoffs) just so he can prevent any kind of physical contact on Mahomes this year ? AR is too competitive and I don't think so.

But In58men is okay with trashing the season with AS this year, thus lowering AS's trade value, thus delaying Mahomes NFL QB development until next year, ALL FOR WHAT ???

SO HE DOESN"T GET INJURED THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO NEXT YEAR???

What's the point ??? Heck, IF Mahomes got injured this next month he still plays next year !! IF he gets injured next year he is out all season delaying his QB development EVEN MORE because he didn't play this year !!! And IF Mahomes stinks it up this year, so what !! You can't destroy this kid's psyche because he played at Texas Tech for goodness sake, throwing 25 INTS in 2yrs !!!

carcosa 11-26-2017 11:12 AM

Alex Smith sucks ass!!!!!!

Ming the Merciless 11-26-2017 11:18 AM

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Easy 6 11-26-2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13237354)
And? We knew this.

Yep, there was never really any doubt... Reids a stubborn SOB about certain things, and this is one of them

The good news is that by week 1 2018, Money Mahomes will be polished up and have many gleaming facets

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13237526)
Benching Alex will hurt his trade value. That's why they aren't going to make a move.

So you believe that AR is okay forgoing the playoffs this year then in order to recoup some picks ???

Don't get me wrong, I think you are correct assuming AS's play is just mediocre BUT IF AS continues to play really bad how does that not hurt his trade value just as bad while forgoing the playoffs as well ??

Rausch 11-26-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237529)

SO HE DOESN"T GET INJURED THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO NEXT YEAR???

I'm a Chiefs fan, so my view is completely reeruned on reality, but I think there's a chance we can add to the line, secondary, and LB units this offseason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237529)
[B]What's the point ??? Heck, IF Mahomes got injured this next month he still plays next year !!

Like Teddy Bridgewater?

Why would you want your QBOTF to be exposed to that in a pointless effort?...

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13237621)
The good news is that by week 1 2018, Money Mahomes will be polished up and have many gleaming facets

Understand we would see these polished up gleaming facets much sooner next year IF he were to get out the elbow grease and polish up some this year.:D

KChiefs1 11-26-2017 11:31 AM

I don't want to read anything from La Canfora.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237633)
I'm a Chiefs fan, so my view is completely reeruned on reality, but I think there's a chance we can add to the line, secondary, and LB units this offseason.



Like Teddy Bridgewater?

Why would you want your QBOTF to be exposed to that in a pointless effort?...

We will add to our other units regardless whether PM2 plays this year or next. You do realize TB's inury was a non-contact fluky injury ?? Water is wet and I could get run over crossing the street tomorrow. Why delay PM2's development IF we could not only start it this year but get his confidence going getting used to the playoffs this year ?? Just saying.

Rausch 11-26-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237644)
Why delay PM2's development IF we could not only start it this year but get his confidence going getting used to the playoffs this year ?? Just saying.

BECAUSE HE'S NOT READY TO RUN AN NFL OFFENSE.

He's not. You can argue with me or with Andy Reid, or Mr. Hunt.

All will disagree with you...

Easy 6 11-26-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237634)
Understand we would see these polished up gleaming facets much sooner next year IF he were to get out the elbow grease and polish up some this year.:D

Its gonna be worth the wait, we've never had a QB like this:arrow:

Hammock Parties 11-26-2017 11:42 AM

They deserve to miss the playoffs. This is a complete bungling of the situation.

BryanBusby 11-26-2017 11:44 AM

Can't really say that I'm surprised.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237658)
BECAUSE HE'S NOT READY TO RUN AN NFL OFFENSE.

He's not. You can argue with me or with Andy Reid, or Mr. Hunt.

All will disagree with you...

And I'm sure the Texans front office would have told you the same thing about Watson as well. Correct ??:hmmm: And the Texans first choice was Mahomes and not Watson mind you.

Rausch 11-26-2017 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237644)
We will add to our other units regardless whether PM2 plays this year or next.

I'd hope...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237644)
You do realize TB's inury was a non-contact fluky injury ?? Water is wet and I could get run over crossing the street tomorrow.

All the more reason to TRY AND NEGATE ANY NEGATIVE ON A FRANCHISE THAT ONLY KNOWS FAILURE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237644)
Why delay PM2's development IF we could not only start it this year but get his confidence going getting used to the playoffs this year ?? Just saying.

What you call delaying I call "grooming."

Like Steve Young, Rodgers, Favre, or McNabb.

ALL QB'S that Reid was there to groom...

notorious 11-26-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237670)
And I'm sure the Texans front office would have told you the same thing about Watson as well. Correct ??:hmmm: And the Texans first choice was Mahomes and not Watson mind you.

The Texans were desperate, and the Chiefs have a proven winner.

Rausch 11-26-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237670)
And I'm sure the Texans front office would have told you the same thing about Watson as well. Correct ??

And look where it got him.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13237670)
:hmmm: And the Texans first choice was Mahomes and not Watson mind you.

No, it wasn't...

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13237659)
Its gonna be worth the wait, we've never had a QB like this:arrow:

Oh I agree even IF he does not see the field this year BUT I just think it is wasting a lot of opportunities of getting the "rookie BS" out of the way sooner rather than later. Trust me PM2's psyche can handle his own "suck" at times and won't ruin him because his play at Texas Tech proved it.:clap:

Black Bob 11-26-2017 11:49 AM

He had a bad game last week. However, he's still an MVP Candidate and the best player on KC's roster this season. I won't be surprised if we see the same headline at this time next year. It is what it is... He will probably throw for 400 yards and four TDs today.

RunKC 11-26-2017 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13237662)
They deserve to miss the playoffs. This is a complete bungling of the situation.

Can't blame Veach for trying to get some ammo to rebuild this team.

RobBlake 11-26-2017 11:51 AM

Alex is going to finish and chiefs are goin to change a lot in this offseason

Rausch 11-26-2017 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13237689)
Can't blame Veach for trying to get some ammo to rebuild this team.

Hell, I'm impressed so far.

At least he's pro-active...

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237680)
And look where it got him.

And he will still start next season with much development under his belt. As opposed to starting him next year with no development and getting potentially hurt which only puts his development out even further.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13237680)
No, it wasn't...

Not from what I read.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13237684)
He had a bad game last week. However, he's still an MVP Candidate and the best player on KC's roster this season. I won't be surprised if we see the same headline at this time next year. It is what it is... He will probably throw for 400 yards and four TDs today.

He's had a bad few weeks just without the INTs until the Giants game.

Chiefshrink 11-26-2017 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13237677)
The Texans were desperate, and the Chiefs have a proven winner.

Depends I guess on how you are defining a proven winner. A proven winner ? Winning what ? The division ? Big deal and sad to say it will actually be a big deal this year in order to make it to the playoffs.:rolleyes: Winning the AFC championship ? The real BIG DEAL:thumb: that Alex hasn't even come close to your so called definition of a proven winner!!:rolleyes::shrug:

BryanBusby 11-26-2017 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13237684)
He had a bad game last week. However, he's still an MVP Candidate and the best player on KC's roster this season. I won't be surprised if we see the same headline at this time next year. It is what it is... He will probably throw for 400 yards and four TDs today.

In what world do you think he even sniffs any awards

Eleazar 11-26-2017 12:48 PM

There’s no point in trying to save this season. They’ll just get embarrassed. Tank it

Great Expectations 11-26-2017 01:25 PM

Let’s see what Mahomes can do to start the half.

In58men 11-26-2017 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13238391)
There’s no point in trying to save this season. They’ll just get embarrassed. Tank it

****!!! I’m glad somebody else can see this. Some of these fans are ****ing way too optimistic.


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