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DaKCMan AP 10-30-2017 06:21 PM

Garoppolo traded to 49ers
 
For 2nd round pick.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Major QB shakeup: 49ers trading 2018 2nd-round draft pick to New England for Patriots’ QB Jimmy Garoppolo, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/925154828577378304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Hammock Parties 10-30-2017 06:21 PM

John Lynch is stupid. LMAO

siberian khatru 10-30-2017 06:22 PM

Trades galore! NFL has become MLB

DaFace 10-30-2017 06:22 PM

I really wish teams would stop giving the Patriots good value in trades.

siberian khatru 10-30-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13185148)
John Lynch is stupid. LMAO

CTE from all those cheap shots

The Franchise 10-30-2017 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13185151)
I really wish teams would stop giving the Patriots good value in trades.

This. ****ing stupid.

O.city 10-30-2017 06:25 PM

But..., what?

Best22 10-30-2017 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13185151)
I really wish teams would stop giving the Patriots good value in trades.

I'm not sure how good that value is. I guess Garolopololo is not the QBOtF

Pasta Little Brioni 10-30-2017 06:26 PM

Lulz

Deberg_1990 10-30-2017 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13185166)
But..., what?

Brady told Bellichek he would love play for another 3 years??

DaFace 10-30-2017 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13185168)
I'm not sure how good that value is. I guess Garolopololo is not the QBOtF

Until proven otherwise, my assumption is that Garrapolo = Cassel.

Coach 10-30-2017 06:28 PM

Wait... what?

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-30-2017 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13185148)
John Lynch is stupid. LMAO

I NEVER liked the MF. I hop he fails more miserably than he already is! He's a former ****ing shitbag cheatin Donkey. **** him.

Eleazar 10-30-2017 06:29 PM

lol @ 2nd round pick

-King- 10-30-2017 06:34 PM

That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
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RobBlake 10-30-2017 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13185222)
That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
Posted via Mobile Device

Brady has two years left imo. They must like a rookie qb?

Hamwallet 10-30-2017 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13185222)
That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
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This. I thought it was a first last spring before the draft....

notorious 10-30-2017 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13185222)
That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
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Yeah, the Pats wouldn't have let him go if they thought he was going to be good.

BossChief 10-30-2017 06:46 PM

That’s basically a first.

MMXcalibur 10-30-2017 06:58 PM

**** you, Denver.

EDIT: Thought I was in the gameday chat. Oh well, can never have enough "**** you, Denver"'s

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-30-2017 07:01 PM

Worth a shot, IMO

WhiteWhale 10-30-2017 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13185148)
John Lynch is stupid. LMAO

ROFL

-King- 10-30-2017 07:33 PM

The Patriots literally have no backup quarterback. Something must have happened. You don't trade your only backup QB midseason just like that.
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PutQuinnIn 10-30-2017 07:39 PM

It's happening

notorious 10-30-2017 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13186050)
The Patriots literally have no backup quarterback. Something must have happened. You don't trade your only backup QB midseason just like that.
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Bringing in Luck?

CrazyPhuD 10-30-2017 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13185222)
That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
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At this rate Tom Brady's son.....

MahiMike 10-30-2017 07:57 PM

So, guess this means Kirk Cousins is staying in DC?

The Franchise 10-30-2017 07:58 PM

49ers acquired QB Jimmy Garoppolo from the Patriots in exchange for a 2018 second-round pick.
Coach Kyle Shanahan gets his quarterback, and the Patriots get something for Garoppolo in the final year of his contract. Tom Brady has shown no signs of slowing down and wants to keep playing for multiple years, making it pretty much impossible to keep Garoppolo in New England at a much higher salary only for him to continue to hold the clipboard as the No. 2. The Patriots have traded both backup quarterbacks in the past two months, first sending Jacoby Brissett to Indy. In San Francisco, Garoppolo may need some time to pick up the offense, but he'll start as soon as he's ready. Rookie C.J. Beathard has been a complete disaster in two starts after replacing a benched Brian Hoyer. This very likely puts the Niners out of the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes this offseason.

displacedinMN 10-30-2017 07:58 PM

surprised. Thought Beathard was doing OK.

Garapolo won't make that team better

JakeF 10-30-2017 07:59 PM

almost a 1st

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 10-30-2017 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 13186333)
surprised. Thought Beathard was doing OK.

Garapolo won't make that team better

Iowa fan?

JohnnyV13 10-30-2017 08:01 PM

If Garoppolo is worth a high 2nd, what is Alex Smith worth playing like this?

KC_Lee 10-30-2017 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 13186314)
So, guess this means Kirk Cousins is staying in DC?

That was my first thought too. Maybe Jacksonville if things in DC melt down again.

Sassy Squatch 10-30-2017 08:07 PM

Yep.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2017 08:08 PM

The 2018 QB class looks like dogshit, despite the raves it received this off season.

Darnold has regressed, Rosen is inconsistent, Allen’s accuracy is shit, Jackson doesn’t fit Shanahan’s offense and Mayfield is short.

I think this was a good gamble and doesn’t preclude the 49ers from trading down and picking up multiple picks in 2018.

GloucesterChief 10-30-2017 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 13186380)
That was my first thought too. Maybe Jacksonville if things in DC melt down again.

Cousins to Jax. Smith to DC?

Hoover 10-30-2017 08:23 PM

Patriots get a high 2nd rounder for an untested QB that has two starts under his belt and is going to demand a large contract.

I'm laughing at you guys who don't think Alex will command the same or more. Yeah he's older, but he has a year left on his contract and is a winning QB in this league. Jacksonville and Cleveland would be fools not to make a move for him.

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13186405)
The 2018 QB class looks like dogshit, despite the raves it received this off season.

Darnold has regressed, Rosen is inconsistent, Allen’s accuracy is shit, Jackson doesn’t fit Shanahan’s offense and Mayfield is short.

I think this was a good gamble and doesn’t preclude the 49ers from trading down and picking up multiple picks in 2018.

All of this is correct. Darnold is going back to USC and Josh Allen is Logan Thomas 2.0.

The Patriots could of fetched more for Jimmy and they are quite ****ed if Brady goes down (taking back Hoyer will not win them a game), but I guess Belichick didn't want to **** with tag+trade and hey whatever.

Will be interesting to see what happens with Kirk Cousins now.

displacedinMN 10-30-2017 09:11 PM

PATRIOT POISON EVERYWHERE BUT NE

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2017 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 13187395)
PATRIOT POISON EVERYWHERE BUT NE

Jacoby Brissett is playing his ass off in Indy.

He’d be a winning QB on a better team.

Chandler Jones, too. 8 sacks.

BlackOp 10-30-2017 09:54 PM

How is this NOT good news? If Brady gets hurt...and he is 40...they have nothing.

All those year learning from Brady...and that is the return?

Maybe the return for the rigged SB last year...Tom goes down at some point this season. *shines tinfoil hat* Shanahan did them a solid last year...

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 09:57 PM

Looking over things, I see why Belichick pulled the trigger now.

Tag and trade isn't really logical with just 25m in space, including carryover, and their starting LT due to be a FA.

GloucesterChief 10-30-2017 10:01 PM

I guess Belichick thinks that Brady has another year at least in him. That 2nd is really going to be a late first and maybe he thinks he can find a QB in the 2nd or below to take over for Brady in a year or two. That or amass talent to help a rook QB in two years.

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 10:10 PM

Partly yeah, but mostly they couldn't get Jimmy G locked in a deal that worked for them and spending 40'ish million on one position isn't how you win championships.

They will draft a QB early. Maybe in the 1st.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2017 10:10 PM

The 49ers still have a 2nd round pick and four in 3 rounds.

No brainer for the 49ers, especially with $100 million in cap space.

Amnorix 10-30-2017 10:12 PM

Seems a bit crazy to me. Pats depth chart at QB last year was Brady, Garroppolo, Brissett, with Edelman as the emergency QB. The depth chart as of now is Brady. Period. The end. WTF?

That said, a couple things I've heard (FWIW):

1. Pats rumored to have made Garroppollo starter money to stay with the team, but he actually wanted to START. Can't blame him. On that theory, and not wanting to franchise him, it was trade him now or lose him this offseason (with possibility of tag/trade).

2. Pats may want to keep Malcolm Butler, and may need to save the franchise tag for him.

3. Rumors of a second trade coming, with either a pick or Butler plus a pick. Nothing solid on who they are getting, so seems like garbage to me, but hey, BB, so who knows.

4. Hoyer released by SF, so likely Pats take him back as an interim backup.

5. Possible Kraft involvement here. He may have laid down the law on Brady finishing his career with the Pats. Who knows.

:shrug:

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 10:14 PM

Do they plan on keeping Solder? That's who I would expect them to save the tag for.

Rasputin 10-30-2017 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13185151)
I really wish teams would stop giving the Patriots good value in trades.

We got ****ed on the Matt Cassell trade I knew something was up with that.

****ing Pioli was sent by BB

We got ****ed.

Buehler445 10-30-2017 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13185222)
That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
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Pure speculation but...

Belicheat will probably be done when Brady’s done. Doesn’t give a ****.

scho63 10-30-2017 11:16 PM

Patriots and 49'ers racist because they wont hire Kapercrap!

Willie Lanier 10-30-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13188111)
The 49ers still have a 2nd round pick and four in 3 rounds.

No brainer for the 49ers, especially with $100 million in cap space.

I am in complete agreement, this trade makes all kinds of sense for the 49ers, and zero sense for the patriots...

The niners get a "groomed" prospect, who probably was commanding more in trade value in the previous offseason, and the pats get...

A second round pick???

For a guy they initially invested a second round pick for, that has been seasoning behind one of the greats???

lcarus 10-30-2017 11:33 PM

A 2nd round pick is jack shit if the guy turns out to be a good QB. Who knows if he will. I certainly get a Matt Cassel vibe too but he can't be much worse than what they have.

OldSchool 10-30-2017 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13185222)
That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
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They couldn't get him to sign an extension and think that Brady can play a few more years at least.

Just Passin' By 10-30-2017 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188146)
Do they plan on keeping Solder? That's who I would expect them to save the tag for.

It's not even a certainty that Solder will be back in the NFL next year. His son's cancer has returned, forcing him back into chemo.

https://nesn.com/2017/10/nate-solder...ancer-returns/

BryanBusby 10-30-2017 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 13188450)
It's not even a certainty that Solder will be back in the NFL next year. His son's cancer has returned, forcing him back into chemo.

https://nesn.com/2017/10/nate-solder...ancer-returns/

Oh hell, had no idea. Yeah that makes sense.

Childhood cancer is a real bitch.

tk13 10-30-2017 11:43 PM

It is a 2nd round pick, but the way it looks now it'll be in the very top of the round. Hard to believe New England spent all that time grooming the guy just to trade him away though.

OldSchool 10-30-2017 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13188459)
It is a 2nd round pick, but the way it looks now it'll be in the very top of the round. Hard to believe New England spent all that time grooming the guy just to trade him away though.

They couldn't get him to sign an extension and Brady is going to keep playing for a few more years at least. Jimmy didn't want to stick around and be the waterboy anymore.

It's a good move for him if he pans out as a starting QB in this league.

Now he gets a chance to start somewhere and increase his value as a potential starting QB and face of a franchise. He's 25 so he needs a chance to show that he has that ability in him. There was no way that was going to happen with Brady still in charge.

tk13 10-30-2017 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13188465)
They couldn't get him to sign an extension and Brady is going to keep playing for a few more years at least. Jimmy didn't want to stick around and be the waterboy anymore.

It's a good move for him if he pans out as a starting QB in this league.

Now he gets a chance to start somewhere and increase his value as a potential starting QB and face of a franchise. He's 25 so he needs a chance to show that he has that ability in him. There was no way that was going to happen with Brady still in charge.

I would never count out Brady, but there's not really a comparison for what he's doing right now. Often times when older QBs hit the cliff, they fall right off. Maybe Brady won't do that.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-30-2017 11:50 PM

I can see this trade being a lose-lose, given all the time NE looked like it put into developing Garoppolo, and given how absolutely awful the 49ers are.

Starting him in the next month will be stupid. Both tackles are hurt, he doesn't know the offense at all, and his skill position players are among the worst in the NFL.

Hammock Parties 10-30-2017 11:52 PM

At least now we get to watch a Tom Brady snuff film instead of him scowling on the bench while Jimmy G takes the reigns.

I'm going to guess the cracks start to widen about Week 10 next season.

OldSchool 10-30-2017 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13188475)
I can see this trade being a lose-lose, given all the time NE looked like it put into developing Garoppolo, and given how absolutely awful the 49ers are.

Starting him in the next month will be stupid. Both tackles are hurt, he doesn't know the offense at all, and his skill position players are among the worst in the NFL.

The dude is on the last year of his rookie contract. Unless they're complete idiots like the Texans were, there is no way that the niners just ink him without seeing what he has on the field for the rest of the season.

BryanBusby 10-31-2017 12:09 AM

The 49ers will extend him and structure it so they can bail out early if he sucks. They will never use up 100 million in cap space otherwise.

It's really low risk for the 49ers here, and he has a better pedigree than Afcasselstan.

OldSchool 10-31-2017 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13188517)
The 49ers will extend him and structure it so they can bail out early if he sucks. They will never use up 100 million in cap space otherwise.

It's really low risk for the 49ers here, and he has a better pedigree than Afcasselstan.

That's true. Forgot about the structures of the Kaepernick/Osweiler deals.

Rausch 10-31-2017 12:47 AM

I'd immediately take the 49'ers rookie QB over Bray...

Rausch 10-31-2017 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13188475)
I can see this trade being a lose-lose, given all the time NE looked like it put into developing Garoppolo, and given how absolutely awful the 49ers are.

It will be.

I have a feeling his value is inflated and the Pats will just reach with the draft pick like they have for years now...

19now11 10-31-2017 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13185222)
That's pretty cheap honestly. Did the Patriots not like him? Who's going to replace Brady when he's done?
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as11

Buehler445 10-31-2017 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 13188438)
I am in complete agreement, this trade makes all kinds of sense for the 49ers, and zero sense for the patriots...

The niners get a "groomed" prospect, who probably was commanding more in trade value in the previous offseason, and the pats get...

A second round pick???

For a guy they initially invested a second round pick for, that has been seasoning behind one of the greats???

Obviously he isn’t worth keeping. Everyone Belicheat dumps is shit. There is almost 2 decades worth of evidence. Some guys that did not get re-signed are OK but if Belicheat dumps you, you are trash.

I think the plan was to hang onto him and pull a Kong’s ransom after injuries (see: Bradford, Sam) but I think people are learning. Plus there are some good young QBs in the league.

Suck it Cheatriot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13188475)
I can see this trade being a lose-lose, given all the time NE looked like it put into developing Garoppolo, and given how absolutely awful the 49ers are.

Starting him in the next month will be stupid. Both tackles are hurt, he doesn't know the offense at all, and his skill position players are among the worst in the NFL.

This is almost certainly a lose-lose unless Lynch/Shanarat Jr are magicians. Brady is the only QB on the roster unless they’ve made a move. What the **** are they doing. If they were planning on trading him (raping some team) why the hell do they not have a backup on the roster?

I have no doubt in my mind that Jimmy is shit. Again, almost 20 years of evidence.

SupDock 10-31-2017 07:26 AM

Jay Ajayi traded to the Eagles for a 4th rounder. I can't start threads so I am putting it in this other trade thread

BryanBusby 10-31-2017 07:26 AM

Jimmy is the QB they wanted to keep, but it wasn't realistic.

He wanted big money and the starting job. He won't make more than Brady (14m in 18) to ride the bench and the job belongs to Brady until the wheels fall off.

Belichick made a critical error by assuming they could extend Jimmy and got it wrong.

Buehler445 10-31-2017 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 13188716)
Jay Ajayi traded to the Eagles for a 4th rounder. I can't start threads so I am putting it in this other trade thread

Captain 1 good year? Weird.

SupDock 10-31-2017 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13188721)
Captain 1 good year? Weird.

Odd trade, seems like good value for the Eagles

BryanBusby 10-31-2017 07:32 AM

I don't really get that trade on either side.

Jay wasn't the issue on that Offense (bad line play, invisible passing game) and a 4th round pick isn't the best compensation.

The Eagles had more pressing needs to fill.

Rasputin 10-31-2017 07:55 AM

U don't blame Jimmy G not wanting sign long term for the Pats. He has no idea when Perfect Tom will hang it up but really who would want to follow his act?

No Quarterback it going be good enough for the spoiled fans of the Patriots.

Danguardace 10-31-2017 09:44 AM

If I were Garoppolo I would hold out on the 49ers refuse to play for them, then hit the open market knowing I could join Giants/Jags/Broncos someone like that

Ragged Robin 10-31-2017 10:09 AM

a second rounder for a backup qb who hasn't started more than 2 games in a season?? Wow. At least Cassel put up some numbers and Mallet only cost a sixth rounder

staylor26 10-31-2017 10:28 AM

I think this trade is pretty simple

Hoody would rather draft a QB to replace Brady than pay Garoppolo starter money (possibly to sit the bench for another year or two)

The Franchise 10-31-2017 10:29 AM

Brady is going to drag that team down because he doesn't know when the **** to retire.

Sassy Squatch 10-31-2017 10:32 AM

LMAO Hue Jackson and the Browns coaching staff is apparently livid at their own front office about not getting him.

BWillie 10-31-2017 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 13185142)
For 2nd round pick.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Major QB shakeup: 49ers trading 2018 2nd-round draft pick to New England for Patriots’ QB Jimmy Garoppolo, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/925154828577378304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Suckers! Remember when we thought Matt Cassel was good?

ChiefsCountry 10-31-2017 11:10 AM

Not a fan but I would assume the 49ers did this to trade down from their pick looking to get a haul like the Titans did.


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