What will the Chiefs receive if they decide to trade Alex Smith this offseason?
 

Opinions range all over the place on this issue, and rather than clutter up threads with my staunch disagreement with some folks, I figured a poll on this issue would be the best way to figure out the overall pulse.

If you think he'd net us something that's not listed on here (like 2 2nd round picks or something like that) then do your best to estimate what that approximate value would be.

Poll forthcoming

If he continues to play well enough to warrant high draft picks he won't be going anywhere.

A 34-year-old QB owed $17 million with one year of control left. You aren't getting a ton for that. There are only so many Rick Spielman-level morons out there.

If he warrants high draft picks all the more reason trade him.

Who would conceivably trade for Smith?

Buffalo, Miami, NYJ, Jax, Denver, Arizona, SF, Minnesota, Cleveland, Cincinnati

That assumes that Buffalo will cut bait with Tyrod Taylor
Miami would have to give up on Tannehill, which is possible, but unlikely.
The Jets are possible trade partners, but that FO is likely getting shitcanned after this year
Denver: The odds of a trade within the division are pretty low, but Reid did it once before
Jacksonville seems like an ideal candidate, but they're a year away from being a year away.
Cleveland is likely to draft a QB high, as they've already ruined any promise Kizer may have had by rushing him, and they have a boatload of picks.
Cincinnati can get out of Dalton's contract this offseason, so that's a possibility.
Shanahan may have his eyes on Cousins, which opens up Washington as a trade possibility.
Minnesota depends on Bridgewater's recovery.


It probably comes down to Arizona, SF/Wash, and Jacksonville

If the Jags sneak into the playoffs this year without Bortles suddenly emerging as a real QB, I bet they'd be willing to pay.

If alex can set his new play as a standard until he retires - I would like to see him with Jacksonville. Instant contender with that defense and wr corps

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Arians tried to trade for Alex in 2013. Palmer is most likely done.

And why wouldn't the Jags want him? They have all the pieces outside of QB now to be a solid playoff team and Coughlin will be 72 next season.

I think it's completely fair to receive a 2nd round pick for the guy. New team can extend him.

If alex plays at this level the whole season would you really want to trade that away for someone that is forsure cheaper but a question mark and based on potential?

LA/San Diego Chargers might be in play if Rivers hangs it up. I could see Smith being okay with that scenario too. Decent team, back home.

Yes. He's better than Watson. Watson is doing fine.

Yes because being a scared of success chiefs fan era is about over.

There’s still plenty of question marks with smith. His playoff record is ass, He folds like a cheap lawn chair in the playoffs.

Unless he changes his past playoff history. Nothing changes

Yes but Kizer and Trubisky are trash

Yep, and use that pick on some defensive help, LB, Corner, Dl, take your pick!

If we continue to see this PED-enhanced (without the shrunken testicles) version of Smith for the remainder of the season, he will be hyped and I don't see why we wouldn't be able to get a first in a trade.

When we traded a couple 2nd's for him, he was coming off a season (2012) where he threw for 13 TD's, 5 INT's and 1737 yards in 10 games. Dude already has 15 TD's, 0 INT's and 1979 yards in 7 games this year...showing signs of being one of these QB's who progresses after the age of 33...which as a thread a couple weeks ago brought to light, is not by any means unheard of.

Who said anything about those two. We traded up to 10 and took Mahomes. We passed on Watson... for a reason. Mahomes played circles around Watson in preseason.

Oh, and all Trubisky does is win!

My heartiest congratulations and well wishes

Smith's gonna look good in teal.

God it'd be nice if we got a high pick for him. We are going to need every high pick we can get to ensure that we are making things as favorable as possible for Mahomes and his development as a young QB.

Yea nothing says trust like making your qb throw a total of 22 times your first 2 weeks as starter.

He'll be getting a 3 year extension. He isn't going anywhere. But if we did trade him he's worthy of at very least a first round pick.

I really don't think the 17 mill will be that big of a detriment...maybe others can chime in...hes worth 15 minimum right?

I just feel safe with Mahommes on the bench. If Smith were gone we'd be one hit away from Tyler Bray. It's not like we're the Broncos with two franchise QBs on the bench.

No one is trading for Alex at his age. At least, not very much. If the Chiefs don't want him back, other teams know KC will just release him . . . . . they're not taking that $20 mil. cap hit just to keep him as a backup plan.

Brady makes 14.4 Mil for base salary the next two years. Smith is definently worth 15 mil minimum. 17 actually seems like a steal considering what QBs are getting paid now days

You don't think there would be any team interested ?

If there are two teams interested, wouldn't one of them be smart to swing the deal by throwing out a bone?

With the contract and age, the chiefs would be lucky to get a 4th.
If the decision to go with Mahomes happens, any team taking him would be freeing up 17M of cap space for the chiefs.
In this this crazy NFL world that's filled with FO folks with the onset, or in the midst of their CTE disease, the chiefs may be able to find someone to overpay.

Cleveland is the shot I called last year. They have cap room, cash, picks and a big need for a QB that can help them win.

Two 2nds

He's slotted to be the 14th highest paid QB next season which is not bad at all. Might be 16th after the Marriotta and Winston new deals.

Not even Alex “Savior” Smith can save that franchise

no way. they have too many holes to fill, and they won't be competing anytime soon.

Somebody will trade for him and give us a first to do it. They can shore up their QB spot for three years, by paying his contract, franchising him twice if need be. It'd be humorous if we traded him back to San Francisco. I don't think it ends well for Alex in Kansas City, he'd have to win us a Superbowl I think, possibly get us to the AFC Championship if Andy was feeling super loyal.

2nd rounder.

I didn't say he would make the, a contender. What I said is he is good enormously th to help them win enormous th to get over the hump. Cleveland has a very solid young defense, they've got some skill position people. What they don't have and haven't is a QB that can help them win.

They have a lot of high picks. They have a lot of cap space and cash...if any team has a reason and ability to trade for smith it's the, in my opinion. Didn't suggest two first rounders....maybe it's a second. I don't know about that

Smith is good enough to make the Browns respectable. Some 8-9 win seasons would be big for that franchise.

GMs saw how horrible that trade was for Minnesota. They're not going to make the same mistake.

I'm starting to wonder if you were THE child left behind.

If we get a 1st for Smith even his biggest haters would have to say the original trade was a good deal.

Imagine getting the 2018 first round pick we traded to get Mahomes comes back from Smith.

:boner:

Lol

2nd seems right to me. He'll be on the final year of his contract and, while he's great this year, there's a definite risk that he'll regress to the mean.

That is, unless he makes it to the Super Bowl. That could push it to a low 1st/two 2nds.

The Vikings would make sense too. Thy have a solid team and if bridgewater is done as well as Bradford who could be. I could see the vikes making a run at smith.


2 seconds I think is reasonable. If a player agrees to the team being traded to there would be an understanding of an extension in place would be my assumption.

At best a mid to low 2nd round pick from a contender it would seem.

he isnt going anywhere. he will retire a chief and a 3 time superbowl mvp. trade mohomo for a ineman and move on.

I would be more than happy to eat crow on that..

You're going to be getting a ton of rep and compliments for this

id be ok with him going back to sf, ive been looking for a reason to see levis stadium in person.

It is way to early for this. There is still way too much football left to play. Lets revisit this after the season.

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If he goes 1-and-done in the playoffs again his regular season stats won't mean shit.

Depends on how he plays the rest of the season. If he keeps being the GOOD Alex then i could see the Chiefs squeezing a low 1st round pick out of him.

i hope we resign him

You could say this about most trades but they still happen. The Vikings gave up a crazy amount for Bradford even though rumors had it that Bradford had lost his job already.

A starting QB is gold in the NFL, if Alex keeps playing like a legit starter then people will be interested. He must play well though and break out of the Game Manager category.

I think people are underestimating how much a functional starting QB is worth in the NFL, even with his age.

It's about supply and demand. The supply isn't there to match the demand and you have multiple squads that win right ****ing now.

If he continues playing like he is now, his floor value will be a 2+Day 3 pick. A bottom half 1 isn't out of the realm of possibility.

Hate to break it to you but he’s no longer in the game manager territory! He’s a playmaker

I would not be shocked at all if Andy Reid tells Veach to keep Smith. I'm still not sure that draft Mahomes isn't part of the reason why Dorsey was fired. In my opinion, there was a power play at Arrowhead, cutting Maclin and drafting Mahomes were Dorsey's moves and not Reid's. Andy has said several times that keeping Smith his entire tenure in KC was fine with him. He could have preferred to draft another position for this season, instead of trying to draft a QB of the future.

Right now, yeah. He peaked at the right moment for the Chiefs.

That's ****ing idiotic. Mahomes was approved top to bottom and the now GM was the main catalyst for it.

I agree, but he must continue to play that way and not slide back into being a game manager.

“Peaked”. Let’s see what “playmaker” does in January.

My vote was based on his continuing this level of play to the end of the season.

Maybe a 2nd and a 4th.

I'd take that deal faster than you can say wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man.

By saying he has peaked, I'm not proclaiming he's going to go Joe Flacco SB run.

Statistically he's having a career year and we're gonna get a fat return.

Unless you're the janitor that kept forgetting to sweep up the gum wrapper, you don't know this for sure.

Raking in the picks. If so it makes Mahomes the biggest impact player in KC history. While never taking a snap.

If Alex plays tough and keeps throwing downfield in the playoffs we are going to the bank.

Yea he has peaked because our defense is shit. If Alex “Aaron Rodgers” Smith was playing like old Alex we would be at best 3-4 right now.

The Chiefs defense says hold my beer and watch this...

he plays like this the rest of the way, he's worth > or = a top 15 pick.

Imagine Smith winning the super bowl and signing a 3 year extension meanwhile Mahomes never played a snap but had the biggest impact possible. Would the Mahomos be okay with that?

Outside of everyone saying directly this, yeah sure I guess?

We can take people gor their word or some dumb shit you made up in a message board. Tough choice.

He’s talking trading for bank.

Possibly!

Ah, indeed he is. My mistake.

a 4th?ROFL

eh. He's right if also assuming the OL is worth a piddly shit. imho

Will be interesting to see what happens if Alex has another 4 TD/0 INT 350+ yard performance in the playoffs and this defense shits the bed losing us the game like the Indy 2014 playoff game.

Don’t care. Take the booty and send him on.

We need to rebuild too many positions. Trading him for picks helps drastically.

Sutton will get fired. Smith 3 year extension

They'd be better off shopping Mahomes to Arizona unless the Bidwills suggest that Arians ride off into the sunset if the goal here in KC is to maximize draft pick return.

LMAO

The Texans just sent a second rounder to Cleveland in a salary dump to get rid of Osweiler.

If Smith finishes as a Top 5 QB, the Chiefs will get a 1st or multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks, IF they decide to trade him.