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Msmith 10-20-2017 07:48 PM
My son is using to Bit Torrent
 
He was downloading some TV shows. Our ISP sent 34 emails within one hour to warn about the illegal download. I showed the messages to him. He said that it was his first time so he would stop. But what of the consequence? Should I contact our ISP about this?

TambaBerry 10-20-2017 08:00 PM
as long as you stop its not a big deal

TambaBerry 10-20-2017 08:00 PM
or just buy a VPN and let your son download whatever he wants

Hammock Parties 10-20-2017 08:00 PM
you're going to a federal pound me in the ass prison

MMXcalibur 10-20-2017 08:03 PM
Tell him to use MegaUpload and he’ll be fine.

Msmith 10-20-2017 08:07 PM
I don't know anything about downloading stuff.

What is legal and what is not legal?

Jewish Rabbi 10-20-2017 08:08 PM
Good luck ever getting a loan or job again. That will stick with you forever.

Ming the Merciless 10-20-2017 08:11 PM
Lol

Just learn how to use it...

Set outgoing bandwidth down low....stop sharing item as soon as it is done....close the client when you're finished..

You really shouldn't even need a VPN if you're careful

Ming the Merciless 10-20-2017 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Msmith (Post 13168781)
I don't know anything about downloading stuff.

What is legal and what is not legal?
Most isp don't care what you download, unless you're doing huge volumes

It's the uploads that will give you a problem....sharing files, leaving the torrent client on and sharing stuff.....

Just don't share stuff ...move the file as soon as it's downloaded...

Ming the Merciless 10-20-2017 08:17 PM
Oh and if he is torrenting, it's not his "1st time"

Torrenting takes practice and usually you don't start out torrenting.

Torrenting is the cocaine of stealing data. You don't just start out doing a mountain of cocaine

Usually you smoke some cigs, drink some booze...maybe smoke a bunch of weed

Shaid 10-20-2017 08:17 PM
yeah, you need to put on a blocker or VPN of some sort if you plan to torrent. I haven't done it in years so not up on what to use any more. I got contacted once probably 10 years ago or so. Not a big deal. Some ISPs have a 3 strike rule and they won't give you service any longer so if there's even a hint he may do more of it, you might just want to get a VPN just to protect yourself.

Mecca 10-20-2017 08:17 PM
Geez what ISP do you have, never had any issue like that.

Shaid 10-20-2017 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13168787)
Lol

Just learn how to use it...

Set outgoing bandwidth down low....stop sharing item as soon as it is done....close the client when you're finished..

You really shouldn't even need a VPN if you're careful
What generally happens is the publisher has people log into the torrent and record all the IPs to send off complaints to the ISP. Even low settings can still get you on that list but in general, you're right. Limit the number of connections you allow outgoing, stop the torrent once it's complete, and you have a much smaller chance of being caught. If you sit out there and feed all day, that's when they'll come after you. You are then providing it rather than just taking it. They definitely prefer taking big seeders down if they can.

lewdog 10-20-2017 08:35 PM
He's downloading a lot of porn.

See if he has anything good and let us know.

BryanBusby 10-20-2017 08:38 PM
Buy him a usenet subscription for his horse porn downloading

Fish 10-20-2017 08:44 PM
This is always how it starts. A few torrents here and there, next thing you know he's signed up to multiple newsgroups using IRC and writing python script like some kind of Somalian pirate.

Sorry for loss. Prayers sent.

cooper barrett 10-20-2017 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13168789)
Most isp don't care what you download, unless you're doing huge volumes

It's the uploads that will give you a problem....sharing files, leaving the torrent client on and sharing stuff.....

Just don't share stuff ...move the file as soon as it's downloaded...
is 2TBs a month considered high?:D:D:D:D:D

Stormageddon 10-20-2017 08:50 PM
Set him up with a VPN. I recommend ProtonVPN. Problem solved.

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Hammock Parties 10-20-2017 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13168793)
Oh and if he is torrenting, it's not his "1st time"
The first thing I pirated was a vinyl Temple of Doom soundtrack record from the public library in Monett, MO.

I just nestled my tape recorder up to the turntable and ripped that shit right off.

Incredible high.

I almost OD'd on Kazaa a few years later.

Jerok 10-20-2017 09:20 PM
Your ISP emailed your 34 times? Dang. I've used bittorrent, kazoo, napster, utorrent, piratebay, I mean, no I haven't...

But I've never been contacted by anybody. I do use a VPN now though.

hometeam 10-20-2017 09:27 PM
Switch ISP

|Zach| 10-20-2017 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13168818)
This is always how it starts. A few torrents here and there, next thing you know he's signed up to multiple newsgroups using IRC and writing python script like some kind of Somalian pirate.

Sorry for loss. Prayers sent.
This post made me laugh.

Dartgod 10-20-2017 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Msmith (Post 13168781)
I don't know anything about downloading stuff.

What is legal and what is not legal?
Paging Dane!

Fish 10-20-2017 09:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Msmith (Post 13168781)
I don't know anything about downloading stuff.

What is legal and what is not legal?
Downloading stuff is legal enough. Nobody has ever been prosecuted for simply downloading something like movies or TV. It's the uploading that you really have to worry about. Bit Torrent clients are configured by default to automatically upload the content you're downloading as soon as it's available. Legal information property entities can only really make a stink when you're uploading content to lots of other people. You can configure your kid's torrent client to only download and never upload, like a good parent would. If you did that, you wouldn't receive any more notices. Sometimes sites monitor that kind of thing and won't let you download unless you also upload. But most are not like that. If it would help, I'd be glad to take down your kid's email and send him some tips on how to be safe. I'll have him safely pirating in no time, with no risk to you. Because we're all Chiefs fans here...

Easy 6 10-20-2017 10:05 PM
Sorry to hear about the meth use, its a scourge across the nation

TribalElder 10-20-2017 10:10 PM
Order more porn movies

cooper barrett 10-20-2017 10:10 PM
The RIAA sued more than 18,000 people for illegally sharing music in the mid-2000s. You don't have to worry, they don't do that stuff anymore.

Jail time (for criminal charges). Jail is pretty rare, but the U.S. copyright law allows you to be jailed for up to 10 years depending on the offense.[3]
Criminal fines. U.S. copyright law also allows the government to fine you up to $250,000. You might have to pay fees in the place of jail time or in addition to jail time.[4]
Statutory damages. If you are sued in a civil lawsuit, you may have to pay $750-30,000 per illegal download. If you violated the law “willfully,” then you may have to pay up to $150,000 per download. However, if you can prove that you had no idea you were illegally downloading copyrighted material, you can get the amount reduced to $200 per download.
Actual damages. The copyright holder might instead seek “actual damages.” This is the amount of money your illegal download actually cost the copyright holder, as well as your profits for illegally downloading and distributing the work.[5] Typically, actual damages are hard to prove, so most people sue for statutory damages. However, the law allows them to seek actual damages if they can prove them.

TimBone 10-20-2017 10:12 PM
Dane's probably gonna kick your kid's ass.

Demonpenz 10-20-2017 11:44 PM
I got busted for downloading hbo stuff. I think hbo had it out there to bust people.with or something. Get him vpn. It's illegal but he aint going tonrestrain himself

Imon Yourside 10-21-2017 03:20 AM
Use NNTP it's much safer and you don't have to upload to anyone. :D

eDave 10-21-2017 03:28 AM
I've been popped for this before. Just delete the file (or tell them you did) and all is cool.

In my case, the suspended my account. Cox.

wazu 10-21-2017 08:48 AM
What ISP did this? I'd be switching immediately.

jspchief 10-21-2017 09:22 AM
Lot of partial answers or jokes. Here's my take:

First you have to decide how you feel about pirating music. If you don't want it happening, then leverage those emails into setting that policy. If you don't care, then he needs to get smarter about it, which means using a VPN. Free VPN services are sketchy as hell, so you better look at paid ones. I'm no tech expert so I'm not going to get into the nuts and bolts. The main point is he needs to get smarter about it. Odds are nothing will happen, but I do know that it's possible to get sued.

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MTG#10 10-21-2017 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13168827)
The first thing I pirated was a vinyl Temple of Doom soundtrack record from the public library in Monett, MO.

I just nestled my tape recorder up to the turntable and ripped that shit right off.

Incredible high.

I almost OD'd on Kazaa a few years later.
You're from Monexico? That whole damn town smells awful.

Lex Luthor 10-21-2017 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13168789)
Most isp don't care what you download, unless you're doing huge volumes

It's the uploads that will give you a problem....sharing files, leaving the torrent client on and sharing stuff.....

Just don't share stuff ...move the file as soon as it's downloaded...
That's not true. The ISPs simply respond to complaints filed by people hired by the MPAA and other similar organizations. Do they go harder after the people who are sharing ginormous amounts of files? Yes. Do they send emails to people who don't allow uploads at all? Yes. If you download a very popular recent movie and you don't use a VPN, you are the exception if your ISP doesn't receive a complaint about it and send you an email.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13168787)
Lol

Just learn how to use it...

Set outgoing bandwidth down low....stop sharing item as soon as it is done....close the client when you're finished..

You really shouldn't even need a VPN if you're careful
That is horrible advice. :shake:

You obviously know your way around the bit torrent environment, but the poster doesn't, and apparently the poster's son is a n00b at it. If he is going to uses bit torrents, a VPN is the only way to go.

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Originally Posted by Stormageddon (Post 13168823)
Set him up with a VPN. I recommend ProtonVPN. Problem solved.
That is very good advice.

I use IPVanish. It's not free ($9.99 per month), but it works perfectly. I received several emails from my ISP a few years ago when I first started downloading with bit torrents. I've been using IPVanish ever since. I've never received an email about this since I started using the VPN.

The poster should check out this link:

https://www.bestvpn.com/free-vpns/

Lex Luthor 10-21-2017 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13168795)
Geez what ISP do you have, never had any issue like that.
Over the years I have received those types of emails from Time Warner (now Spectrum) and Google Fiber.

Ming the Merciless 10-21-2017 03:52 PM
LOL

you dont need a VPN if youre casually bit torrenting a few things (even a few new movies a week) , as long as you delete them immediately when your download is done, and youre not seeding...

you have no room to speak of 'terrible advice'

if you dont know how not to seed , or cant learn how in 5 minutes...you should not be bit torrenting or using a vpn

come on man...shut your mouth about horrible advice before you splurt out diarrhea just to sound cool

just limit outgoing connections to 1 or 2, lower outgoing bandwidth to almost zero, and remove any completed file...as soon as file is complete , do not seed

you dont need a VPN, now THAT is horrible advice..LOL buy your son a VPN...how many kids you got bro?
Your solution to breaking the law on that kind of scale isnt to cut back a little or stop doing illegal shit? Its "buy your son a VPN and let him go to town"?

come on man... THATs not horrible advice?

just try using your client properly for a week or two and you will get no more letters

Ming the Merciless 10-21-2017 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13169661)
That's not true. The ISPs simply respond to complaints filed by people hired by the MPAA and other similar organizations. Do they go harder after the people who are sharing ginormous amounts of files? Yes. Do they send emails to people who don't allow uploads at all? Yes. If you download a very popular recent movie and you don't use a VPN, you are the exception if your ISP doesn't receive a complaint about it and send you an email.
I guess me and everyone I know are all the exceptions and have been for 10+ years

Ming the Merciless 10-21-2017 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 13169794)
Now I use VPN and make sure I leave any Disney stuff up exceptionally longer than I let other things run.
ROFL

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Ive heard that about Disney and HBO...and I have heard HBO is worse even...

But I download a TON of DIsney and HBO and have never had an issue, I just dont leave anything up, ever.

edit: Ive also heard porn companies are pretty bad...but I do not d/l porn so shrug

cooper barrett 10-21-2017 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 13169025)
Use NNTP it's much safer and you don't have to upload to anyone. :D
I will suggest my friend checks that out:D:D:D:D:D:D

cooper barrett 10-21-2017 10:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 13169026)
I've been popped for this before. Just delete the file (or tell them you did) and all is cool.

In my case, the suspended my account. Cox.
They probably read your political post and cut you off for the greater good.:D:D:D:D

cooper barrett 10-21-2017 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13168827)
The first thing I pirated was a vinyl Temple of Doom soundtrack record from the public library in Monett, MO.

I just nestled my tape recorder up to the turntable and ripped that shit right off.

Incredible high.

I almost OD'd on Kazaa a few years later.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13169172)
You're from Monexico? That whole damn town smells awful.
Smells better now as Hamster's dirty Panties moved. I used to take a route south through there, but question Moneximo?

suzzer99 10-21-2017 11:29 PM
Good news is he's like one click away from snuff porn.

I'm assuming anyway. When I used to download songs on emule every now and then I would see a video pop up from one of my search terms. Oh what's this? Kiddie porn. Awesome! Should I just turn myself in now or wait for the feds to find me?

KCrockaholic 10-22-2017 06:21 AM
I used to download shitloads of movies to my PS3 using some megaupload, and other torrent sites. Never had a problem that I know of.

thegame214 10-22-2017 07:13 AM
See if he can download a Chiefs secondary while he's at it. Anything should help,

cooper barrett 10-22-2017 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13170406)
See if he can download a Chiefs secondary while he's at it. Anything should help,
Would Sutton have the codac to play it?:D:D:D:D

Lex Luthor 10-22-2017 08:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13169688)
LOL

you dont need a VPN if youre casually bit torrenting a few things (even a few new movies a week) , as long as you delete them immediately when your download is done, and youre not seeding...

you have no room to speak of 'terrible advice'

if you dont know how not to seed , or cant learn how in 5 minutes...you should not be bit torrenting or using a vpn

come on man...shut your mouth about horrible advice before you splurt out diarrhea just to sound cool

just limit outgoing connections to 1 or 2, lower outgoing bandwidth to almost zero, and remove any completed file...as soon as file is complete , do not seed

you dont need a VPN, now THAT is horrible advice..LOL buy your son a VPN...how many kids you got bro?
Your solution to breaking the law on that kind of scale isnt to cut back a little or stop doing illegal shit? Its "buy your son a VPN and let him go to town"?

come on man... THATs not horrible advice?

just try using your client properly for a week or two and you will get no more letters
Meh. I told Msmith that the safest way to download is with a VPN. That is unquestionably true.

Lex Luthor 10-22-2017 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Msmith (Post 13168753)
He was downloading some TV shows. Our ISP sent 34 emails within one hour to warn about the illegal download. I showed the messages to him. He said that it was his first time so he would stop. But what of the consequence? Should I contact our ISP about this?
As you've seen in this thread, there are people who think a VPN is unnecessary. Ultimately it's up to you to decide which way to go. The following post on Reddit addresses the question of whether or not you should use a VPN:

https://www.reddit.com/r/torrents/co...ly_need_a_vpn/

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Do I really need a vpn?

submitted 3 years ago by [deleted]

All I download is movies and tv shows throughout the week via pirate bay and utorrent. I haven't thought much about using a VPN or beefing up any security since I haven't ever received a notice from my isp (big C), so inform me, please, why I would honestly need a vpn...
Some of the top answers:

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So, I was in your shoes. I had/have torrented or downloaded illegally since I was in the 8th grade (approx 15 years ago). I never once got a DMCA from any of the internet providers that I had.

That all changed this year when I cancelled my Directv subscription and decided to get the last couple of episodes of Games of Thrones off of torrents. I also grabbed Real Time with Bill Maher as I like that show as well. Big mistake doing so without a VPN.

You see, a good amount of the companies have given up on sending DMCA notices, but HBO has not. Within the span of the last two weeks of the Game of Thrones season, I was hit with 6 DMCA notices from various HBO programs, including Games and Real Time.

It also would seem that some porn companies are still sending out DMCAs as well. I didn't even realize I was getting DMCAs cause I log into my Comshit account just to pay the bill. I don't use their shitty email, but I checked it out of the blue and saw 7 or 8 of these notices in my Comcast inbox.

After I paid my bill, I came here and found this Private Internet Access discount link, used it, paid my 30 or so dollars for a year's subscription and haven't had a DMCA since.

As far as the torrent swarms are concerned, all of my traffic is coming out of the Netherlands whenever I download now.

So, this was kind of long winded, but here's the breakdown. Can you see yourself continuing to download without a VPN and have these scummy DMCA lawyers know that you are you and could possibly take you to court for damages? Or, would you rather pay 30 dollars for a year's worth of security and privacy and not have to worry about getting your internet shut off because you loaded up your torrenting program with 10 downloads before bed, wake up and they are all seeding and you are nailed with DMCAs?
This is just my story, which sounded similar to yours, so I decided to share. The choice you make is ultimately up to you, but I would highly recommend PIA.

edit: Once you get the VPN, make sure you google and grab the CheckMyTorrentIP.png torrent. It is basically just an empty file that will never stop "downloading", just keep it always in your torrent program. It's announce in your torrent program will tell you your current IP. You can check your IP with the VPN turned off in the announce for this file, turn on your little PIA green guy, pause and restart the .png and your should see your IP change to whatever region you have picked to have your traffic to come out of. It's a nice, quick, easy way to make sure your ass is covered before you load up a download sesh.
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The 6 dollars you pay for a month for safety definitely outweighs the cost of you getting caught. There is not need for the risk if you can easily avert it. It's like finishing in a girl and knowing she's not on birth control. The condom would have saved you thousands.
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Because you're playing roulette with 5 bullets chambered.
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I had gotten away with it for years without a VPN until that one fateful day where a certain company didn't like a certain thing I downloaded so my certain cable provider shut off my internet until I got it resolved.

Use a VPN. I pay ~$6 a month for peace of mind, added benefits of security, and as a plus I can view Europe's Netflix lineup which is quite different if not better than America's.
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I hate this question. Do you need a condom? No, but it keeps you out of trouble. Do you need a VPN? Same thing. If you're a daredevil and you like going in bare, then not having a VPN shouldn't bother you. You're just at a higher risk.
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Basically the whole condom analogy is exactly why you should use a VPN, although be warned not all VPN companies are created equally. You have to make sure the service you pay for does no log information which keeps them from being able to rat you out. Cryptostorm for example does not log. Happy hunting!
The guy who made the comment below has obviously interacted with Pawnmower (or someone just like him).

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I've seen tough guys like you online before. Fearless, unafraid of the copyright police. But when they get caught, they become quivering weasels. They end up having to be fugitives, on the run for the rest of their lives, looking over their shoulders, waiting for the tap on the back and the prison life. Why not just pay $40 for a year of VPN, and give yourself some protection? Forget about a reason why you should, and come up with a reason why you shouldn't, when it's safer and cheap. No brainer there.

MTG#10 10-22-2017 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13170277)
Smells better now as Hamster's dirty Panties moved. I used to take a route south through there, but question Moneximo?
Its just a nickname for Monett, the Mexican population is extremely/unusually high for a small midwestern town.

stumppy 10-22-2017 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13170504)
Its just a nickname for Monett, the Mexican population is extremely/unusually high for a small midwestern town.
I hadn't heard 'Monexico' before but it's an accurate description from what I've heard.

patteeu 10-22-2017 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13169688)
LOL

you dont need a VPN if youre casually bit torrenting a few things (even a few new movies a week) , as long as you delete them immediately when your download is done, and youre not seeding...

you have no room to speak of 'terrible advice'

if you dont know how not to seed , or cant learn how in 5 minutes...you should not be bit torrenting or using a vpn

come on man...shut your mouth about horrible advice before you splurt out diarrhea just to sound cool

just limit outgoing connections to 1 or 2, lower outgoing bandwidth to almost zero, and remove any completed file...as soon as file is complete , do not seed

you dont need a VPN, now THAT is horrible advice..LOL buy your son a VPN...how many kids you got bro?
Your solution to breaking the law on that kind of scale isnt to cut back a little or stop doing illegal shit? Its "buy your son a VPN and let him go to town"?

come on man... THATs not horrible advice?

just try using your client properly for a week or two and you will get no more letters
You are serving while you're in the middle of your download. Your advice is good for minimizing risk, but it doesn't eliminate it to the extent that a VPN does.

patteeu 10-22-2017 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13170283)
Good news is he's like one click away from snuff porn.

I'm assuming anyway. When I used to download songs on emule every now and then I would see a video pop up from one of my search terms. Oh what's this? Kiddie porn. Awesome! Should I just turn myself in now or wait for the feds to find me?
What search terms were you using, you sick ****?



j/k I don't want to know about the terms, you sick ****.



j/k About the sick **** part.

Fish 10-22-2017 09:20 AM
VPNs are for noobs. You're wasting your bandwidth by porting it who knows where through that VPN pipe. Newsgroups and torrent aggregators are where it's at. Take advantage of that download speed you're paying for, and don't limit it to the VPN throughput.

MTG#10 10-22-2017 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 13170507)
I hadn't heard 'Monexico' before but it's an accurate description from what I've heard.
Pretty much the entire town is factories, guessing that's why...probably shipping them in for cheap labor. That's also why it stinks so bad. (the factories, not the Mexicans) :D

Lex Luthor 10-22-2017 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 13170511)
You are serving while you're in the middle of your download. Your advice is good for minimizing risk, but it doesn't eliminate it to the extent that a VPN does.
Before Pawnmower unleashes another diatribe intended to show us how much smarter he is than anyone else, I'll just quickly mention that the utorrent client gives you the option of setting the number of concurrent uploads to zero, so it is possible to prevent that. However, the rest of your statement is 100% true.

Anyone who is just fine with picking up crack whores and screwing them without a condom would also be just fine with downloading without a VPN.

MTG#10 10-22-2017 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13170520)
VPNs are for noobs. You're wasting your bandwidth by porting it who knows where through that VPN pipe. Newsgroups and torrent aggregators are where it's at. Take advantage of that download speed you're paying for, and don't limit it to the VPN throughput.
Up until a couple years ago I'd agree 100%. But Usenet providers are pulling stuff so fast now due to DMCA requests that its getting more difficult than its worth...especially HBO stuff. I still use it, but I save my blocks for hard to find stuff that I cant find on bittorrent.

Lex Luthor 10-22-2017 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13170520)
VPNs are for noobs. You're wasting your bandwidth by porting it who knows where through that VPN pipe.
I respectfully disagree. The bandwidth I get with my VPN pipe (usually around 50-60 Mbps) is acceptable to me for my purposes.

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13170520)
Newsgroups and torrent aggregators are where it's at. Take advantage of that download speed you're paying for, and don't limit it to the VPN throughput.
That may very well be. But it's hard to beat the simplicity and the safety of installing the utorrent client and just going to Pirate Bay for everything.

Fish 10-22-2017 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13170535)
I respectfully disagree. The bandwidth I get with my VPN pipe (usually around 50-60 Mbps) is acceptable to me for my purposes.



That may very well be. But it's hard to beat the simplicity and the safety of installing the utorrent client and just going to Pirate Bay for everything.
The very nature of how VPNs work make them incredibly inefficient. You become completely dependent on VPN server bandwidth, its current load, routing, etc. I've used many VPNs, in addition to configuring VPN services for our work infrastructure. It's effective, but it introduces all kinds of drawbacks. I greatly prefer newgroups or even better, torrent aggregators. There's essentially no worry about any DMCA notices. You're using all available bandwidth for downloading. You don't have to bother with a torrent client and the seeding of others. My torrent aggregator sources from pirate bay and many others, so if it's available on any of the torrent sites it's available to me without ever going to those sites. I go to one website, perform a search for what I want, and download it worry free. No additional client, no VPN connection to establish and remember to turn off once I'm finished. The site does all the dirty work. If the content is something like movies or TV, I can even stream it directly from the site. It has the ability to take something like a collection of RAR files for a TV season, and make that streamable on the fly directly from the website. I search for content, and have the ability to directly stream or download. They even provide an API so I could use some Python and have a couchpotato type setup. There's already an existing KODI addon for the one I use, so I can add the addon and stream everything that way without ever having to do anything other than browsing the addon. I pay a small monthly fee, but it's so worth it I wouldn't bat an eye at paying double what I'm currently paying for it.

Lex Luthor 10-22-2017 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13170606)
The very nature of how VPNs work make them incredibly inefficient. You become completely dependent on VPN server bandwidth, its current load, routing, etc. I've used many VPNs, in addition to configuring VPN services for our work infrastructure. It's effective, but it introduces all kinds of drawbacks. I greatly prefer newgroups or even better, torrent aggregators. There's essentially no worry about any DMCA notices. You're using all available bandwidth for downloading. You don't have to bother with a torrent client and the seeding of others. My torrent aggregator sources from pirate bay and many others, so if it's available on any of the torrent sites it's available to me without ever going to those sites. I go to one website, perform a search for what I want, and download it worry free. No additional client, no VPN connection to establish and remember to turn off once I'm finished. The site does all the dirty work. If the content is something like movies or TV, I can even stream it directly from the site. It has the ability to take something like a collection of RAR files for a TV season, and make that streamable on the fly directly from the website. I search for content, and have the ability to directly stream or download. They even provide an API so I could use some Python and have a couchpotato type setup. There's already an existing KODI addon for the one I use, so I can add the addon and stream everything that way without ever having to do anything other than browsing the addon. I pay a small monthly fee, but it's so worth it I wouldn't bat an eye at paying double what I'm currently paying for it.
You make a pretty good case for torrent aggregators. I will confess that I have never used one and I'm not really that familiar with them.

Which one do you use? I may have to check it out.

Fish 10-22-2017 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13170650)
You make a pretty good case for torrent aggregators. I will confess that I have never used one and I'm not really that familiar with them.

Which one do you use? I may have to check it out.
furk.net

Here's some invite codes if you'd like to try it:

FPSDQVOM0
4QHMIFIV3
DTE33ABO6
JFE6SW615
K8PBMCZEN

thegame214 10-22-2017 11:11 AM
If some of you put the same effort in downloading illegal shit as you put into your jobs you could probably just pay the $15 a month for HBO you cheap fucks. Relax I'm kidding lol

cooper barrett 10-22-2017 11:21 AM
I'd like to know more, for a friend.

Is this a software you install? if so, is it portable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13170606)
The very nature of how VPNs work make them incredibly inefficient. You become completely dependent on VPN server bandwidth, its current load, routing, etc. I've used many VPNs, in addition to configuring VPN services for our work infrastructure. It's effective, but it introduces all kinds of drawbacks. I greatly prefer newgroups or even better, torrent aggregators. There's essentially no worry about any DMCA notices. You're using all available bandwidth for downloading. You don't have to bother with a torrent client and the seeding of others. My torrent aggregator sources from pirate bay and many others, so if it's available on any of the torrent sites it's available to me without ever going to those sites. I go to one website, perform a search for what I want, and download it worry free. No additional client, no VPN connection to establish and remember to turn off once I'm finished. The site does all the dirty work. If the content is something like movies or TV, I can even stream it directly from the site. It has the ability to take something like a collection of RAR files for a TV season, and make that streamable on the fly directly from the website. I search for content, and have the ability to directly stream or download. They even provide an API so I could use some Python and have a couchpotato type setup. There's already an existing KODI addon for the one I use, so I can add the addon and stream everything that way without ever having to do anything other than browsing the addon. I pay a small monthly fee, but it's so worth it I wouldn't bat an eye at paying double what I'm currently paying for it.

Fish 10-22-2017 11:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13170697)
I'd like to know more, for a friend.

Is this a software you install? if so, is it portable?
No, it's a website. Which makes it available from anywhere on any device.
There are Chrome extensions, KODI addons, etc. so you can access all the media in many different ways. Here's a detailed description of what it does:

Spoiler!

Shaid 10-22-2017 11:50 AM
Interesting Fish. Can you set it up directly on your router so you don't have to mess with setting it up on multiple devices?

MTG#10 10-22-2017 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13170659)
furk.net

Here's some invite codes if you'd like to try it:

FPSDQVOM0
4QHMIFIV3
DTE33ABO6
JFE6SW615
K8PBMCZEN
"Bandwidth limit: up to 250GB per month"

And it looks like you have to buy the lifetime subscription just to get that.

Deal killer for me.

Shaid 10-22-2017 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13170761)
"Bandwidth limit: up to 250GB per month"

And it looks like you have to buy the lifetime subscription just to get that.

Deal killer for me.
That answers the router question.

Fish 10-22-2017 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 13170755)
Interesting Fish. Can you set it up directly on your router so you don't have to mess with setting it up on multiple devices?
There's nothing to set up. You would simply access the furk website from whatever device you needed to. If you want to download something(movies/TV/apps/books/etc), open a web browser, type in furk.net, log in, search for your something, and download it. If you're wanting to just stream a movie or TV, search for that and click stream instead of download. If you use KODI, install the What the Furk addon, launch the addon and browse movies/TV. Zero buffering. Their bandwidth is incredible. If the media you want isn't already hosted on Furk's servers, it will aggregate torrent sites, and then copy it from that torrent site to Furk's servers where you can download it quickly and safely. You can also upload your own content and access it in the same manner.

Fish 10-22-2017 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13170761)
"Bandwidth limit: up to 250GB per month"

And it looks like you have to buy the lifetime subscription just to get that.

Deal killer for me.
I've only hit my limit once. You can get extra bandwidth easily enough. Extra 100GB for $13. Extra 300GB for $35.

Lex Luthor 10-22-2017 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13170686)
If some of you put the same effort in downloading illegal shit as you put into your jobs you could probably just pay the $15 a month for HBO you cheap ****s. Relax I'm kidding lol
I have HBO and Showtime through my cable provider, so I'm already paying for access to HBO Go and Showtime Anytime. I also have a Netflex subscription, so I think I'm doing enough to support the pay services.

There is some content that's not available to me unless I download it. For example, the newest Stephen King mini-series, Mr Mercedes, is only available if you have AT&T U-Verse or Direct TV. I'm not really interested in changing cable providers just to watch one show, so I download it. I'm also not interested in paying a monthly fee to CBS just to watch Star Trek Discovery, so I download it.

I suspect AT&T and CBS would see it differently, so I use a VPN.

jjjayb 10-22-2017 12:29 PM
Quote:
Notice and Takedown
• It is expected that all users of any part of the Furk.net system will comply with applicable copyright laws. However, if Furk.net receives proper notification of claimed copyright infringement it will respond expeditiously by removing, or disabling access to, the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity. Furk.net will comply with the appropriate provisions of the DMCA in the event a proper counter notification is received.

Repeat Infringers
• Furk.net may, in its discretion, use all appropriate means to terminate user access to its system or network who are repeat infringers.
How would this be any different than your ISP terminating you?

patteeu 10-22-2017 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 13170808)
How would this be any different than your ISP terminating you?
One thing that comes to mind is that your other internet activities wouldn't be at risk of unexpected interruption.

cooper barrett 10-22-2017 12:41 PM
Mr Mercedes was worth it

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13170791)
I have HBO and Showtime through my cable provider, so I'm already paying for access to HBO Go and Showtime Anytime. I also have a Netflex subscription, so I think I'm doing enough to support the pay services.

There is some content that's not available to me unless I download it. For example, the newest Stephen King mini-series, Mr Mercedes, is only available if you have AT&T U-Verse or Direct TV. I'm not really interested in changing cable providers just to watch one show, so I download it. I'm also not interested in paying a monthly fee to CBS just to watch Star Trek Discovery, so I download it.

I suspect AT&T and CBS would see it differently, so I use a VPN.

cooper barrett 10-22-2017 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13170790)
I've only hit my limit once. You can get extra bandwidth easily enough. Extra 100GB for $13. Extra 300GB for $35.
Do you use, have you used, download managers? Which have/ do you use?

I also do not see how to search for a tv show or movie. I do see where I can input a URL info-hash, or magnet link

Ming the Merciless 10-22-2017 01:11 PM
a 3 year old reddit thread to "prove" buying a VPN for your son is a smart decision ...instead of eductating him on how to use p2p properly

LOL

idiot

again, you rush to provlaim my advice as "horrible" and then proceed to shit yourself

how many kids you got?

Ming the Merciless 10-22-2017 01:13 PM
Been using usenet since the 90's, thats pretty good advice there

Ming the Merciless 10-22-2017 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13170686)
If some of you put the same effort in downloading illegal shit as you put into your jobs you could probably just pay the $15 a month for HBO you cheap ****s. Relax I'm kidding lol
this is 100000x better advice than "buy your son who doenst know how to use a p2p client properly a VPN"

Ming the Merciless 10-22-2017 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13170524)
Before Pawnmower unleashes another diatribe
look back at your interaction with me, you god damn reerun

you were the one who ran off at the mouth 1st with 'horribe advice' just because you wanted to talk some other moron into getting a vpn because you did.

then u tell someone to buy a vpn for their child for illegal downloading LOL

**** off

I reacted to you the same as you did to me, prior to you being a complete douche there was no 'diatribe', if you dont like it maybe you shouldnt run your mouth

Lex Luthor 10-22-2017 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13170832)
Mr Mercedes was worth it
Yes it was.

I watched the entire series before I realized that the star was the same actor who played Mad Eye Moody in the Harry Potter movies.

Ming the Merciless 10-22-2017 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13170761)
"Bandwidth limit: up to 250GB per month"

..

Deal killer for me.
if 250 GB per month of tranny / midget porn isnt enough, perhaps you have a problem?

thats about 7 or 8 full length movies a day for the month..

thegame214 10-22-2017 01:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Luthor (Post 13170791)
I have HBO and Showtime through my cable provider, so I'm already paying for access to HBO Go and Showtime Anytime. I also have a Netflex subscription, so I think I'm doing enough to support the pay services.

There is some content that's not available to me unless I download it. For example, the newest Stephen King mini-series, Mr Mercedes, is only available if you have AT&T U-Verse or Direct TV. I'm not really interested in changing cable providers just to watch one show, so I download it. I'm also not interested in paying a monthly fee to CBS just to watch Star Trek Discovery, so I download it.

I suspect AT&T and CBS would see it differently, so I use a VPN.
Totally understand I was just trolling :) no need to explain brother


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