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The Franchise 08-17-2017 12:27 PM

Sean Smith loses starting CB job
 
NFL Network's Steve Wyche reports Raiders CB Sean Smith has lost his job to T.J. Carrie.

This started to happen at the beginning of camp, and now it looks official. Signed to a four-year, $40-million contract last March, Smith rebounded somewhat after being burnt to a crisp and benched his first game with the Raiders, but things have apparently not improved this offseason. He is still seeing snaps in nickel packages, but that may change once first-rounder Gareon Conley (leg) returns to health.

New World Order 08-17-2017 12:29 PM

Smith mailed it in after getting that dough.

ptlyon 08-17-2017 12:30 PM

Burnt to a crisp ROFL

Eleazar 08-17-2017 12:32 PM

Oakland is where careers go to die. (after getting one last payday)

Demonpenz 08-17-2017 12:33 PM

Doctors say It has Albert Hainsworth diseases in his balls

ToxSocks 08-17-2017 12:34 PM

KC is the only place he's had any real success.

That says something about our coaching staff.

Halfcan 08-17-2017 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 13019781)
Oakland is where careers go to die. (after getting one last payday)

ROFL

Funny but also very true!

Chiefspants 08-17-2017 12:34 PM

John Dorsey should be fired for this.

KCUnited 08-17-2017 12:37 PM

Nice to confirm that Oakland is still run by a bunch of butt****ing morons.

BlackOp 08-17-2017 12:37 PM

Smith a prototypical press/man CB...playing him in off coverage is counter intuitive. He cant run with smaller fast WRs...His strength is knocking them off their route.

He was set-up to fail in Oakland...I dont remember him getting torched in KC..really ever.

They are down a starting CB...makes my heart warm.

alpha_omega 08-17-2017 12:39 PM

Too bad...I was looking forward to our guys working on him.

scho63 08-17-2017 12:42 PM

I saw that coming from a mile away. Posted he was stinking up the place after watching him with two penalties and burnt numerous times against the Cardinals. He looks slow as shit and heavier than in KC.

RunKC 08-17-2017 12:43 PM

Remember when we signed him and Clay said he sucked? Then he was awesome for us.

Then Oakland signed him and Clay said it would be a huge loss?

LMAO

staylor26 08-17-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13019798)
Remember when we signed him and Clay said he sucked? Then he was awesome for us.

Then Oakland signed him and Clay said it would be a huge loss?

LMAO

****ing hillarious ROFL

Hammock Parties 08-17-2017 12:54 PM

Told ya.

lawrenceRaider 08-17-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13019792)
Smith a prototypical press/man CB...playing him in off coverage is counter intuitive. He cant run with smaller fast WRs...His strength is knocking them off their route.

He was set-up to fail in Oakland...I dont remember him getting torched in KC..really ever.

They are down a starting CB...makes my heart warm.

Ken Norton Jr must not be all that smart. He has some good, physical press corners and he had them play off all last year, and looks like he's starting with the same crap this year.

I'm really hoping KNJ gets demoted/booted and we move Pagano into the DC role.

In58men 08-17-2017 01:36 PM

Free agency sucks balls, big reason why I don't give a shit about it. Players just wanna be played. Don't give me that Peyton Manning shit either, one in a million type player.

Rain Man 08-17-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 13019905)
Ken Norton Jr must not be all that smart. He has some good, physical press corners and he had them play off all last year, and looks like he's starting with the same crap this year.

I'm really hoping KNJ gets demoted/booted and we move Pagano into the DC role.

I sometimes wonder how good some coaches are about combining talent and scheme. You can pick up a talented player in free agency, but if he doesn't fit your scheme he's going to underperform. It seems like a simple concept, but I have to think that it's why some players appear to fail in free agency (or for that matter, the draft) when they were initially thriving.

cmdrzman 08-17-2017 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 13019781)
Oakland is where careers go to die. (after getting one last payday)

Ya mean like Standford Routt?

Smiths contract was only guaranteed 2 years- so hes gone after the year with no cap dead money- Figures he was ass- he came from KC

cmdrzman 08-17-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13019791)
Nice to confirm that Oakland is still run by a bunch of butt****ing morons.

Jeremy Maclin

BlackOp 08-17-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrzman (Post 13020029)
Ya mean like Standford Routt?

Smiths contract was only guaranteed 2 years- so hes gone after the year with no cap dead money- Figures he was ass- he came from KC

No, Norton is ass...they had to bring in Pagano to cover for him.

Del Rio isn't a championship level coach...never has been. They already axed Musgrave...I guess they didn't want to fire both coordinators in the same off-season. These are Junk Del Rio's hires....

cmdrzman 08-17-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13020036)
No, Norton is ass...they had to bring in Pagano to cover for him.

24th pick overall Ohios CB Gareon Conley was drafted to replace that stiff Smith... And he's looked great in camp.. little nicked up now but he's back at practice...

BlackOp 08-17-2017 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrzman (Post 13020040)
24th pick overall Ohios CB Gareon Conley was drafted to replace that stiff Smith... And he's looked great in camp.. little nicked up now but he's back at practice...

**** off...he hasn't even practiced this entire camp.

He looks good riding an exercise bike?

I hope Oakland puts a rookie CB out there with no training camp...

staylor26 08-17-2017 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13020043)
**** off...he hasn't even practiced this entire camp.

He looks good riding an exercise bike?

I hope Oakland puts a rookie CB out there with no training camp...

Yea that is ****ing hillarious.

Conley hasn't even practiced but he looked "great" LMAO

Eleazar 08-17-2017 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13020092)
Yea that is ****ing hillarious.

Conley hasn't even practiced but he looked "great" LMAO

Perhaps cmdrzman thought he looked fetching in sweats

Marcellus 08-17-2017 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13019791)
Nice to confirm that Oakland is still run by a bunch of butt****ing morons.

I love cross thread humor.

ToxSocks 08-17-2017 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrzman (Post 13020040)
24th pick overall Ohios CB Gareon Conley was drafted to replace that stiff Smith... And he's looked great in camp.. little nicked up now but he's back at practice...

At least knowmo is useful.

You're just a butt-****ing idiot, cumdumpman.

Between raping women and riding a stationary bike, ol' Gayreon hasn't had time to practice.

Buckweath 08-17-2017 03:28 PM

OK name me big-bodied cornerbacks who are or were any good past the age of 30. Will you?

Sean Smith has just turned 30.

ToxSocks 08-17-2017 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13020181)
OK name me big-bodied cornerbacks who are or were any good past the age of 30. Will you?

Sean Smith has just turned 30.

Uhm, why should we? Who gives a shit.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 08-17-2017 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13020036)
No, Norton is ass...they had to bring in Pagano to cover for him.

Del Rio isn't a championship level coach...never has been. They already axed Musgrave...I guess they didn't want to fire both coordinators in the same off-season. These are Junk Del Rio's hires....

Del Rio - axe ROFL

ToxSocks 08-17-2017 03:39 PM

WTF happened to AutumnFart?

FlaChief58 08-17-2017 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrzman (Post 13020029)
Ya mean like Standford Routt?

Smiths contract was only guaranteed 2 years- so hes gone after the year with no cap dead money- Figures he was ass- he came from KC

He was decent for us... Maybe it's the team he currently plays for that makes him look like ass. :shrug:

BlackOp 08-17-2017 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13020137)
At least knowmo is useful.

NO...no, he is not.

ThaVirus 08-17-2017 04:26 PM

He was very good for us but I always got the vibe like he would get his big payday and just mail it in. I think it was after a big win we had sometime in 2013. Everyone in the locker room was all amped up and he just looked like he couldn't give a shit less.

I'm glad he fisted the Raiders first before he called it quits, though.

cmdrzman 08-17-2017 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13020036)
No, Norton is ass...they had to bring in Pagano to cover for him.

Del Rio isn't a championship level coach...never has been. They already axed Musgrave...I guess they didn't want to fire both coordinators in the same off-season. These are Junk Del Rio's hires....

Lets put aside all this hate and go camping sometime.. me, you, a pup tent and 1 sleeping bag... we can make sweet love together.,. would you enjoy that?

O.city 08-17-2017 06:40 PM

https://twitter.com/tmz_sports/statu...42940099067904

Nickhead 08-17-2017 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13020567)

i assume smith will be unemployed soon after 'all the details have been gathered'. :D

Quote:

Oakland Raiders cornerback Sean Smith was reportedly arrested Thursday and charged with felony assault stemming from allegations that he was involved in a physical altercation with his girlfriend's brother July 4.

According to TMZ, Smith has officially been charged with "felony assault by means of force likely to produce great bodily injury and battery with serious bodily injury."

staylor26 08-17-2017 07:01 PM

Damn he gone

MTG#10 08-17-2017 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13019798)
Remember when we signed him and Clay said he sucked? Then he was awesome for us.

Then Oakland signed him and Clay said it would be a huge loss?

LMAO

https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=http...qlhJZwiAXBoccQ

Sassy Squatch 08-17-2017 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13020567)

How much of The Raiders salary cap will be freed up?

NJChiefsFan 08-17-2017 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13020137)
At least knowmo is useful.

You're just a butt-****ing idiot, cumdumpman.

Between raping women and riding a stationary bike, ol' Gayreon hasn't had time to practice.

That has me thinking. There are some cool Charger fans and some cool Bronco fans on this site. I can't think of any Raiders fans that are reasonable. Lawrence Raider?

CoMoChief 08-17-2017 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 13020603)

ROFL

JoeyChuckles 08-17-2017 07:35 PM

Well that escalated quickly.

Eleazar 08-17-2017 07:36 PM

That terrible, terrible GM Dorsey cut bait on this guy AND Flowers at exactly the right time.

MarkDavis'Haircut 08-17-2017 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13020612)
That has me thinking. There are some cool Charger fans and some cool Bronco fans on this site. I can't think of any Raiders fans that are reasonable. Lawrence Raider?

I am a decent Raiders chap that just wants to talk football with knowledgeable fans. Which doesn't happen in Steelers country.

Titty Meat 08-17-2017 07:51 PM

Sign him for the low low

NJChiefsFan 08-17-2017 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13020721)
I am a decent Raiders chap that just wants to talk football with knowledgeable fans. Which doesn't happen in Steelers country.

Welcome if true.

Coach 08-17-2017 07:57 PM

Can't say I am surprised that something like this would happen. He did get a DUI here in KC that one time and was suspended, I believe for 4 games. I want to say that it was reduced to 2, but I'm going off by memory.

Hydrae 08-17-2017 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13020770)
Can't say I am surprised that something like this would happen. He did get a DUI here in KC that one time and was suspended, I believe for 4 games. I want to say that it was reduced to 2, but I'm going off by memory.

He hit a pole I believe. And I don't think it was reduced because there was no appeal filed.

DaneMcCloud 08-17-2017 08:07 PM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...end/578706001/

Arrested on felony assault

Coach 08-17-2017 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13020787)
He hit a pole I believe. And I don't think it was reduced because there was no appeal filed.

3 games. I thought initially it was 4, but was reduced. After looking it up, you appear to be correct, as there isn't an appeal filed, and it was 3 games.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...ed-3-games-dui

jspchief 08-17-2017 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13020721)
I am a decent Raiders chap that just wants to talk football with knowledgeable fans. Which doesn't happen in Steelers country.

Doesn't happen very often on chiefsplanet either.

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Mother****erJones 08-17-2017 08:32 PM

Boy did Dorse make the right decision here.

scho63 08-17-2017 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13020798)

His bad day just keeps getting worse! ROFL

Raiders CB Sean Smith charged with beating sister's boyfriend
6:26 PM MT
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles prosecutors say Oakland Raiders cornerback Sean Smith has been charged with beating his sister's boyfriend last month.

The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said Thursday that Smith faces assault and battery charges.

Prosecutors say the 30-year-old Smith beat the victim and then stomped on the man's head in Pasadena, California, on July 4.

Smith previously played for the Miami Dolphins and the Kansas City Chiefs. Smith pleaded guilty in 2015 to a driving under the influence charge in Kansas City and was sentenced to two years of probation.

He's scheduled to be arraigned in Pasadena in September. If convicted, Smith faces up to seven years in prison.

Defense attorney Daniel Rosenberg told ESPN's Josina Anderson that Smith "maintains his innocence" and that he will plead not guilty. "The plan is to fight the charge all the way through," Rosenberg said.

jjchieffan 08-17-2017 08:56 PM

He had to get that felony to fit in. All the other Raiders players were calling him choir boy.

Gonzo 08-17-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13020917)
He had to get that felony to fit in. All the other Raiders players were calling him choir boy.

I'm wondering if he was pissed off about his sister sleeping with another guy. Incest seems to be a pre-requisite for the Raiders as well you know.

BlackOp 08-17-2017 09:18 PM

I hope his is not guilty. I dont want the Raiders to be able to void his guaranteed money...if there is a clause in his contract.

If they cut him...their CB depth is going to be terrible.

Red Dawg 08-17-2017 09:23 PM

He will get cut and suspended.

NWTF 08-17-2017 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13020954)
I hope his is not guilty. I dont want the Raiders to be able to void his guaranteed money...if there is a clause in his contract.

If they cut him...their CB depth is going to be terrible.

Their secondary sucks, but I think they were planning on moving on from him after last year. I think he was going to be cut anyway, but now if these charges stick they have an easy out fall into their laps.

Willie Lanier 08-17-2017 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby (Post 13020754)
Sign him for the low low

Good god NO

Ming the Merciless 08-17-2017 09:39 PM

what a ****ing imbecile

sucks for the raiders but

raiders gonna raider

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-17-2017 10:18 PM

Sean "overrated" Smith:

Yet ANOTHER Dorsey success story coupled with the time-honored righteousness and truth of the CP Draft Lords.

Sometimes, shit just is what it is.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-17-2017 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13020875)
Boy did Dorse make the right decision here.

Pray he passed that ability on before getting ridiculously shafted by the ownership.

mcaj22 08-17-2017 10:43 PM

9 million cap hit 13 million in space this will throw a wrench in the Raiders cap flexibility for a season.

win for the Chiefs

Nickhead 08-17-2017 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13020567)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 13020572)
i assume smith will be unemployed soon after 'all the details have been gathered'. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13020798)

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13020894)
His bad day just keeps getting worse! ROFL

Raiders CB Sean Smith charged with beating sister's boyfriend
6:26 PM MT
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles prosecutors say Oakland Raiders cornerback Sean Smith has been charged with beating his sister's boyfriend last month.

The Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said Thursday that Smith faces assault and battery charges.

Prosecutors say the 30-year-old Smith beat the victim and then stomped on the man's head in Pasadena, California, on July 4.

Smith previously played for the Miami Dolphins and the Kansas City Chiefs. Smith pleaded guilty in 2015 to a driving under the influence charge in Kansas City and was sentenced to two years of probation.

He's scheduled to be arraigned in Pasadena in September. If convicted, Smith faces up to seven years in prison.

Defense attorney Daniel Rosenberg told ESPN's Josina Anderson that Smith "maintains his innocence" and that he will plead not guilty. "The plan is to fight the charge all the way through," Rosenberg said.

i think we got this one covered like revis island :D

Chief Northman 08-18-2017 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 13021110)
i think we got this one covered like revis island :D

If Smith was defending his sister from perhaps an abusive boyfriend/relationship, then I will not pass judgment on him. If this guy was an abuser then serves him right to get stomped.

bigjosh 08-18-2017 12:11 AM

So they draft an accused rapist, and now there is an accused felony assault on smith. Raiders going back to the wonder years.

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BlackOp 08-18-2017 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13021133)
If Smith was defending his sister from perhaps an abusive boyfriend/relationship, then I will not pass judgment on him. If this guy was an abuser then serves him right to get stomped.

I'm withholding an opinion on this too...It'll be interesting how the NFL handles it. They persecuted Rice for hitting his girlfriend...will they do the same to Smith for protecting his own sister FROM abuse? It would be kind of hypocritical...

Smith needs to understand his public position...you hire no-name goons to beat someone up. Duh...

Nickhead 08-18-2017 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13021133)
If Smith was defending his sister from perhaps an abusive boyfriend/relationship, then I will not pass judgment on him. If this guy was an abuser then serves him right to get stomped.

soooooooooooooo, what you are saying is that if tyreek found out his girlfriend had cheated on him and the baby may not be his, it's okay? (i defend tyreek in communal forgiveness if he plays it straight).

dumb logic. maybe sean could have persuaded his sister to notify authorities?

maybe sean in a group of people could have simply stated 'all ten of us, if we ever hear you are being abusive, will partake in beating your ass'?

(i am guessing here, but i assume as i made tyreek an example, if there were 'warning signs' beforehand, and that happened, and she didn't allow it to end 'amicably', he would be in more trouble?)

BlackOp 08-18-2017 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 13021152)
soooooooooooooo, what you are saying is that if tyreek found out his girlfriend had cheated on him and the baby may not be his, it's okay? (i defend tyreek in communal forgiveness if he plays it straight).

dumb logic. maybe sean could have persuaded his sister to notify authorities?

maybe sean in a group of people could have simply stated 'all ten of us, if we ever hear you are being abusive, will partake in beating your ass'?

(i am guessing here, but i assume as i made tyreek an example, if there were 'warning signs' beforehand, and that happened, and she didn't allow it to end 'amicably', he would be in more trouble?)

Tyreek is a poor comparison...sounds like Smith was protecting/avenging a family member.

Nickhead 08-18-2017 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13021154)
Tyreek is a poor comparison...sounds like Smith was protecting/avenging a family member.

what if hardy got kicked in the nuts by this woman before he assaulted her?

BlackOp 08-18-2017 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 13021156)
what if hardy got kicked in the nuts by this woman before he assaulted her?

What if Jesus loves Nazis?

Nickhead 08-18-2017 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13021157)
What if Jesus loves Nazis?

don't be silly butt****er :D

T-post Tom 08-18-2017 01:51 AM

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Nickhead 08-18-2017 02:10 AM

look, if this happened at our bbq, i am sure said culprit would have accidentally tripped over a nail railed rake. but i am not an nfl player and i know how to make accidents happen. :D

CupidStunt 08-18-2017 04:45 AM

UglyNipples, long time no see bro. I missed you.

Still have one of the most distinctive writing styles I've seen on my 15 or so years on the internet.

HemiEd 08-18-2017 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13020612)
That has me thinking. There are some cool Charger fans and some cool Bronco fans on this site. I can't think of any Raiders fans that are reasonable. Lawrence Raider?

RNR, RedneckRaider, end of story.

lawrenceRaider 08-18-2017 06:28 AM

Well, this ends the Raiders league leading streak with no player arrests.

https://twitter.com/GehlkenNFL/statu...46281008898049

Dartgod 08-18-2017 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13021206)
RNR, RedneckRaider, end of story.

Overhead was pretty cool too. A bit more abrasive than RNR, but he had some great stories.

You are right though, RNR is top notch. It's a shame that someone that cool roots for vile scum like the Raiders*.




* For RNR in case he's lurking. :p

Molitoth 08-18-2017 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13019791)
Nice to confirm that Oakland is still run by a bunch of butt****ing morons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13020118)
I love cross thread humor.

:clap: lol

Dane ftw


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