Hidden trove of suspected Nazi artifacts found in Argentina
 

Amazing. The Nazis really did flee to Argentina.

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ntina-48145123

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Meanwhile in Brazil

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you weren't sure?

My country also kicked out all of the slaves in the 1800's by passing laws (they fled to Brazil) - it wouldn't surprise me that Germany felt safe in a country that protected white Europeans.

This is an awesome discovery though.

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Don't look, Marion!

Plenty of high ranking Nazis where caught there in the past. There isn't some mystery as to whether not they went there, but this is still definitely interesting.

What were the Nazis doing with harmonicas?

Did they find anything with the name Drumpf on it? ROFL

Probably Hitler's private collection.

History Chanel has a very interesting show on this. It follows the passageways many Nazi's took through Italy, staying in safe houses provided by the Catholic church. Test on the supposed body of Hitler proved negative. They are not sure what body the Russians have, but it is not a man.

Wonder if they tested it to see if it was Emilia Earhart

Destroy it all, don't keep and let it become some kind of display.

This point of view just drives me nuts. The worst thing we can do is ignore or pretend that things in the past did not happen. Now I'm not for flying the stars and bars or having swastikas tiled in to my pool, so this new facination with erasing the sins of the past is not wise.

I'd say put it in museums.

Regardless of whether or not you believe in the ideology, it's still an interesting sliver of human history.

Snowflakes can't handle the truth

There is a huge difference between forgetting the past sins or memorializing them. You will have a bunch of nuts traveling to "mecca" to worship all the Nazi symbols from the past.

Possibly, Eva Braun's body. Eyewitness accounts state that Hitler was alone when he boarded the plane for Argentina.

One account of the body from an Eva site,

http://www.evabraun.dk/evabraun5.htm

The Soviet troops were led to the bodies of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun and took the bodies with them as they moved west with the Soviet's Third Army. Each night the remains were buried, often in the woods, and then dug up when it was time to move on.

Finally, Hitler and Braun were buried behind Smersh's East German headquarters in Magdeburg, and remained for 25 years under a yard later owned by a waste-disposal firm.

It was not until 1970 that the remains of Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun were dug up from Magdeburg and destroyed.

The rest of Eva Braun's family survived the war. Her mother, Franziska, who lived in an old farmhouse in Ruhpolding, Bavaria, died at the age of ninety-six, in January 1976.


The Russian account of historic events is sketchy at best as well as the accounts by witnesses to the "suicide" of the love birds.

crazy find. I dont understand why interpol was allowed to just walk into this guys house and take this stuff though? Its his personal possessions now arent they? Why can they just walk in and take it?

There's no reason you can't have some fun in the Stalingrad winter.

Yeah I dont know if I believe the story of Hitler escaping to south america or something. I feel like if youre Hitler you have too much pride to run with your tail between your legs. You go out in style and commit suicide. right?

Artifacts as unique and valuable as these were most likely stolen or given as a gift by a war criminal.

He is going to have to explain the chain of custody (which will be difficult) or will never get the stuff returned.

These are not items you can buy down at the swap and shop.

Yeah, my grandfather brought a ton of Nazi/Allied stuff back from WWII. I'll pass it down if I ever have kids, otherwise, I'll probably donate it to a museum one day.

Yeah but cant he just say a family member gifted them to him and thats that. Also I still don't see why they can just walk in and take it

Thats cool. Like what?

My coworkers dad was in the army regiment that liberate Dachau. He killed a nazi officer and took his luger. My coworker still has it.

Bullshit. Use it to teach and learn.

I have a Luftwaffe officer's dagger, a Fairbairn-Sykes dagger, a book autographed by Guderian, a picture autographed by Manteuffel, a silver coffee creamer from the Der Deutsche Hof (hotel in Nuremburg where the high command would stay during rallies), a brick from the Berghof, tons of medals, tons of Nazi stamps/postcards, a big wooden desk with the imperial eagle and SS insignia carved into it (gramps snagged it from some SS HQ), and a picture that looks like its signed by Hitler (probably a fake since my dad got it in the 70's).

I've posted some pics in the WWII thread in the Romper Room.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...gs+WWII&page=7

I can snap some more of the other stuff if anyone is interested. The desk and Hitler auto are at my grandfather's place, though.

I'm assuming those mummies weren't Nazi.

The stuff itself is interesting, but the story of how it got there is going to be the most interesting part in my mind. That stuff was big enough that it wasn't just hand-carried. Someone shipped it, and it was someone who was in the inner circle.

Another article that I read said that it included some instruments to measure head size that dated from the 1930s. The Nazis were using these to build theories about genetic dominance. The fact that those instruments were included points toward a guy like Mengele.

I guess it's possible too that this was a hand-assembled collection from years after the war, but since some of these items appeared to belong to Hitler or his inner circle, I'd be more inclined to think that it's always existed as a collection.

I bet one of the chief Nazi goobers was bringing stuff over before the war ended so he could have a stash of stuff to sell in his old age. This is either a descendant's house or it's the person he was selling stuff to.

Here's the Guderian and Manteuffel auto's.

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One of the postcards:

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Translation
"Germany - Come for the Beer, Stay for the Genocide"

Or these items were stashed with the hope to start the 4th Reich in South America. That was the speculation by the History Chanel researchers. The main inner circle, including Hitler were to use it as a base to rebuild their failed dreams of domination.

It would have been great to have definitive proof that such an evil person as Hitler was dead, but that was not the case. There is probably more evidence he escaped.

I think that is the crux of the whole situation- What family member? If it was a known war criminal, their property would be automatically forfeited.

Interpol has international jurisdiction when it comes to stolen antiquities.

This is a pretty significant and historic collection- not to mention extremely valuable.

They'd be nuts regardless of whether or not they made a trip to stare at some artifacts.

Speaking of, I went to Siesta Key beach for the weekend. I saw a white guy with the Nazi SS lightning bolts tatted on the back of his neck.

I couldn't get over how dumb that is..

I thought it was pretty common knowledge that he relocated to England after the war.

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I had the chance to visit Dachau in 1976. Just thinking of it 40+ years later still gives me chills. I can't imagine being there during the liberation.

I was recently in Nuremberg, Germany and found something interesting that they do with Nazi buildings and memorbilia.

They don't destroy it, lest they appear to be trying to bury history. But then again they don't maintain it, lest they appear to be glorifying the past.

So you have all these Nazi buildings and what not falling into disrepair. There it is, it happened, look if you want. We're going to move on with our lives.

I thought it was a pretty shrewd course of action.

A 100-year study of visitor surveys at Dachau shows a considerable improvement in visitor experience beginning in the mid-1940s. The improvement is believed to be due to the addition of a gift shop and snack bar.

Dude had probably been to prison for a while.

baaaad things
just nasty
don't ask

Or maybe he's just a naive Chargers fan with a vindictive tattoo artist.

I want it.

I have my grandpa ww2 coin collection. I would love to own more ww2 collectables.

The SS bolts are typically used as a symbol of white supremacy but there is one context in which this is not necessarily always so. Decades ago, some outlaw biker gangs appropriated several Nazi-related symbols, including the SS bolts, essentially as shock symbols or symbols of rebellion or non-conformity. Thus SS bolts in the context of the outlaw biker subculture does not necessarily denote actual adherence to white supremacy. However, because there are a number of racists and full-blown white supremacists within the outlaw biker subculture, sometimes it actually is used as a symbol of white supremacy. Often the intended use and meaning of the SS bolts in this context is quite ambiguous and difficult to determine.

Hidden trove of suspected Nazi artifacts found in Argentina
 

He looked like the stereotypical white biker.

He was also wearing suspenders to keep his shorts from falling. Superior genetics my ass.

Have you seen the movie "Get Out"?

For some reason your post reminded me of that movie.

Yeah, I know some former operators that have them tattooed on that aren't skinheads. Some spec forces cultural thing. Virus's dude just sounds like an idiot, though.

He was completely suffering from neurological disorders and heavily drugged. He even had a doctor with him full time to manage his drugs. I doubt at the end that there were many rational decisions being made. I mean they armed their children and gave them guns to fight Allied adults and Russians. That should tell you all you need to know at the end.

Yeah, I saw that one in theaters. Awesome movie and probably the best audience reactions I've ever experienced.

Yeah, apparently the swastika was some kind of Indian cultural symbol before it was repurposed by the Nazis.

If you're going to adopt some type of coat-of-arms, why not just make your own?

Candy ass.

It happened. We study history so that we do not repeat it, so that we can learn from it. To destroy it is just a way of stuffing the uncomfortable things under the rug and pretending that they did not happen.

When I was a sophomore in high school the social studies teacher had a WWII vet come and talk to the seniors, and knowing I had an interest in such things he let me sit in. He had an amazing 3 table collection of Nazi artifacts that he had on display. He was part of the forces that came in towards the end od the European theater that basically just had all of the Nazis surrender to them without much of a fight. When they would surrender they would be on their knees in formation amd he would walk through the ranks with a knife and cut off the medals he thought looked cool and mailed them all back home. As part of the liberation force in Denmark, he climbed the flag pole on the national capitol building in Copenhagen and cut down the Nazi flag, which he kept in his jacket for 2 weeks before he was able to mail it home. He had it there too, and it was huge.
The guy put the fear of God into us. At one point, the seniors got a little restless and started talking over him. He got a little upset, and being a draftee, I'll never forget what he told us.

"I don't know what you all are laughing about. At some point in your lifetime there will be a draft, and you had better pray you're too old to go. War is hell."

That shut them up.

The green beans broke him

That makes me think of this exchange from Stripes.

Cruiser: I joined the army 'cause my father and my brother were in the army. I thought I'd better join before I got drafted.

Sergeant Hulka: Son, there ain't no draft no more.

Cruiser: There was one?

If not for the meddling of Indiana Jones, Argentina would now possess the Ark of the Covenant.

Dude, it was a drunken Vegas weekend, don't judge. Seriously though we go to Siesta all the time love that place.

It's ****ing amazing.

No see ums ate me the hell up though. I'm still itching.

They are just following our lead...you know tearing down confederate monuments and all. If you destroy history it never happened to some people.

What color of "suspenders" Nazi skinheads wear red typically. Sometimes white. Although traditional no racist skinheads wear white as well. Their also called braces.
Typically bolts are a sign someone committed and aft of violence to gain them.

They were red and didn't really match his outfit. The outfit was complete garbage anyway, though.

I think he legit needed them. He had a huge gut.

Too soon man.

My grandpa got hurt in WWII. Fell off a guard tower.

yep. those that forget the past are condemned to repeat it...

Maybe some of you are watching this series already but if not, you should really watch the series "Hunting Hitler". Really good stuff !!:thumb:

Does it end in Paraguay?

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2 tons of cocaine were also found in Argentina a couple days ago.