Reuben Foster fails drug test at combine
 

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Now he slides.

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Again?

Please dear god let this man fall to 27 so I don't have to be miserable when we don't draft a QB

Won't stop the Chiefs from taking him.

This. I thought he already failed a drug test, no?

Knowmo has the Rapoport tweet/story in the draft forum.
Sorry I'm talking to text here driving in traffic.

Hope its just weed and nothing serious
Diluted sample.

It's serious even if it's weed because he'll get himself suspended.

Don't think of it as a drug test, think of it like a willpower/idiot test.

Raiders will take him before we get a shot. They need ILB badly.

Houston V2

yup. 3rd rounder.

I understand what you are saying no matter what it is its foolish. Just would be more concerned if it was something harder than pot.

So let's say there's a way to sacrifice next year's first in a manner that moves us up to the early 20s and then moves our 2nd up to the back of the 1st.

And no, I have no idea if that's even remotely reasonable, but lets say we give up this years first and next years first. That would give us roughly, what, 1150 points in 'draft chart' value? Conservatively 1100?

And he's there with Miami's pick, so you give Miami both 1sts for their 1st and 2nd. Maybe you have to throw in pick 170 to sweeten the pot.

Now you take 54 (Miami) and 59 (ours) and get NO to send us 32 in exchange and take Davis Webb.

You do that, right? I mean, it's risky as hell because what happens if in the interim Webb goes off the board between Miami and NO and you're left with Foster and a little more 2nd round firepower but nothing you're desperate to use it on now that the QB is gone. Technically the 'value' of those 2 picks should get you up to roughly GBs spot which would be a damn nice spot to get to ahead of Pittsburgh and with a nice relationship with the respective GMs (and little concern of the QB biting them as he's going to the AFC; moreover, GB loves building in the draft and could prefer that extra pick).

Now you've used this years first next years first, a 2nd and a 5th to get Foster and Webb.

I mean...that's a win, right? Or are we just completely wrong about these QBs. Could Webb fall to the late 2nd anyway? In which case you could've just used your 3rd to move up to Miami's spot and snag Foster.

What an idiot. Maybe we can get him in the 3rd round?

Hell yeah!

Slide to the Chiefs.

Trade up to get Foster- the same guy that stormed out of the combine and failed a drug test?

We can pick up Mixon too and get the all thug draft going.

Stay put and draft Foster, Webb, and Mixon with 1, 2, and 3. Not likely, but I'd have no problem with it.

I'd probably do that. You come away with your QB on both sides of the ball. Of course, this provided that Dorsey/Reid love Webb.

He's a linebacker - I give zero ****s.

I want a little crazy on my defense. In fact, that aggression is an element we've lacked for years (obligatory Belcher joke aside).

There are very few people on the defense that guys physically do not want to play against. Put Foster out there and have him flying around with an edge to his game and hitting people - the team will be better for it.

And honestly, his rationale for the failed drug test and his response to same seems pretty legit to me. As for the combine thing - A) you're full of shit, that's not what he did and B) Really? The guy got pissed at a nurse. Have you spent more than 10 minutes in a hospital? At any given time somebody that's stressed out and frustrated is pissed off at a nurse. It happens.

is this what you think happened

He doesn't seem to have a great handle on anything related to Reuben Foster right now so I wouldn't expect an outstanding response here...

If we could come out of this draft with a corner, Foster and a QB I'll be thrilled.

Do your thing, John.

You might get you wish.

Of course, the QB is likely to be Kaaya in the 4th or something but it's the position you want.

I've been hoping there was a way we'd get him ever since someone mocked him falling to us at 27. That seemed pretty remote until now. I would be pretty excited about next year regardless of what we do about QB.

if he's there at 27 all in

http://nfltraderumors.co/alabama-lb-...-test-combine/

My bad- had a very heated exchange and was kicked out of the hospital according to this.

Blames a diluted piss test on food poisoning. :rolleyes:

His excuse seems legit? Food poisoning caused him to water down the sample so bad he failed the test.

So it is okay to treat nurses like shit because you don't want to be there- gotcha.

And you've never been terse with support staff when you're frustrated or stressed out. Got it.

I'm sure our entire 53 man is just all choir boys. Nothing but nice guys in the NFL...

As for the drug test, I'm not a pharmacist so I don't know what can cause a miss but I know that we have to do drug testing for everyone one of our hires and I've sent two kids home for a diluted test and had them come back 2 days later to try again and they passed just fine. I don't know what caused it, but you can have a diluted sample that creates a false positive. I'm pretty sure these college kids that were signing up to make $8 bucks/hour didn't go get themselves professionally flushed to come back and pass 48 hours later. Sure seems like something that happens on occasion.

I'd be curious to see how people would view/explain these exact same behaviors about a guy that wasn't an all-SEC linebacker sure-fire first-round NFL draft pick.

Different.

Like Steve keim said, if Hannibal lector ran a 4.3, we'd say he had an eating disorder.

I think you've gotta be a little crazy to play ilb and be good at it.

Question becomes is he good enough, or does he turn into the other mil that oakland took from bama whose name escapes me

No, I have not been rude/disrespectful to nurses. I just dealt with many nurses recently when my Dad had a new pacemaker. The nurses were hardworking, did most everything and were amazing. Foster might have been in a different situation though, but it still looks bad on him.

As soon as he found out, Foster should have immediately gone and had another test done. If in fact, it is was excess body water on the first test and Not physically watering down the sample- the new sample would have come back clean. Lots of money on the line for him just to accept a false positive test at face value. It will cost him money and resp[ect now.

If he is clean- this is a real travesty, because he looks like a heck of a player. And yes I agree- we could use that nasty attitude on defense.

Zero ****s given; put that red on red on

If he had food poisoning he would have used it as part of his excuse for getting kicked out of the combine. He would have given some BS about being sick and dehydrated and that is why he lost his cool.

Heck of a college player, but he apparently has a ten cent brain and still surrounds himself with questionable characters from what I've read.

Take him if he falls but don't be surprised if he needs a handler and is suspended

Heh yeah, that's a very good way to put that.

What a load of crap. Thousands of players have gone through the combine yet Foster is the only one to have ever been sent home for this reason.

Of course it does.

But we all have our moments. Not necessarily with nurses but maybe with a waiter or a secretary or some poor schlub just manning a front desk.

I know I've been pretty irritated with myself after encounters with umpires before. At the time I was dead positive I was justified and the next day I may have still thought I was justified but I knew I shouldn't have taken it to the level I did.

And frankly, I don't even make a very good point when I say that I want a little crazy on our defense. I've stood nose to nose after sprinting through the infield to get into it with an ump but when I played football and got sent over the middle on a crackback block, you bet your ass I slowed up before I set the block and more often than not I got my ass handed to me for it. I can be a high-strung asshole to the wrong people on occasion but it doesn't mean I was an aggressive football player.

But my point is that it isn't all that indicative of his character; dude may have just been having a bad ****ing day and yes, that's absolutely a reason. It may not be a justification for it, but not a one of us is above it.

And we don't know when/how he found out. I suspect it came well after the sample. And for the record, if it was literally a 'watered down' sample, like with water from the tap, we'd have known it immediately because we've had kids try that too and nobody gets the temperature right. You always end up outside the acceptable bounds for the sample and it's an immediate rejection - do not pass go, do not send for analysis. If that was how this went down, I bet we'd know it.

And why is 'this reason' so damning? Marcus Peters got thrown off the goddamn team for being unable to control his emotions.

He didn't ****ing slug anybody; I don't see why I'm supposed to care about it. He embarrassed himself by getting into an argument with somebody that ultimately didn't have a damn thing to do with what he was pissed about - happens all the time to everyone in every walk of life. I'm not gonna barbecue him for it.

Last drug test I took- the nurse put a red dye packet in the toilet and instructed me Not to flush it. Also, she put safety tape over faucet so no water could come out.

If Foster was is a similar situation- why did he not say- No water was even available during testing to dilute this sample. When confirmed by the hospital- it would be a moot point.

As it stands now- it looks like he was trying to skirt the test, got into an argument with the nurses over it, was kicked out. Then the failed test comes back diluted. I guess NFL teams will make their own judgment if these excuses are plausible when added to the food poisoning story.

Do want, absolute stud.

Unless things have recently surfaced, my understanding of the argument with the nurses was that it wasn't even over a test but rather he was trying to get paperwork/records (I believe related to his recent shoulder surgery).

And who the hell knows if your situation was the same as his. Maybe water WAS available to dilute the sample - that doesn't mean he used it and it's not his fault if the protocols were different where he took the test. Like I said, I'd be shocked if this was a result of dumping water in his piss cup; people just don't get that temp right and that kicks back immediately. I have to believe we'd know about it were that the case.

Excellent point- there is usually a thermometer built into the cup. That is the first thing they check.

That is why the whole thing does not make much sense. Did he fail immediately or really thought he passed and was surprised by the news?

If no water was available to dilute, And the temperature was correct- it should go in his favor.

I just envisioned getting a QB in the 1st, then Foster in the 2nd.

And then I jizzed.

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This will work on most drug tests but ones that actually go to a lab it will come back as diluted urine.

This is the ONLY THING that would make it okay to not take a QB in the first in my opinion.

PLEASE DROP

He will and should drop WAY past the 27th pick.

lol.

Thats not how you dilute a sample.
First of all the sample has to be body temp or you fail.

Samples can be diluted with masking agents, system cleansors and even just drinking tons of water to the point that you are peeing crystal clear.

Drinking too much water is usually to mask use.

Miami will take him if he slides to them

Nope. Still going in the top 20.

He didn't exactly test positive for anything.

Michael Lombardi-
Teams picking between 33-45 will need to make sure they are comfortable with R. Foster, cause he will be there.

Lombardi is an ass hat

6 weeks ago the guy is considered a top 5 pick and the best player in the country at a position of excruciating need for us in both the near and long terms.

I'm sorry, but if that guy was there for us in the 20s, I think we'd be fools not to grab him. He's a very very good player.

Agreed. He may be the second best player in the draft. We'd HAVE to take him.

If he's available and the Chiefs pass, it better be for Mahomes. Because anyone else is going to be a less talented player at a lower need.

The broncos and raiders also have need at ILB. I think the broncos have to go OL, but I do not want to see this guy a raider. I can live with them getting Jarrad Davis.

This guy is the complete package. Haven't seen a harder hitter in the draft since Burfict. And actually seems to play with football smarts. He's easily the best LB to come from Bama in a while and that's with studs like Mosely and Hightower

This.

I'd trade up ahead of Oakland to get him.

Trading up for an ILB is so dumb. Please god no

Normally, yes I'd agree.

If the player becomes a star legit player, I'd trade up for whoever.

For like a Jarrad Davis, yeah. But this guy is special if he checks out. He has been mocked all the way up to #2 pre combine

There are also issues regarding his shoulder.

Thing about this guy is he's been damaged goods all his life. His dad shot his mom while holding him! That's just the start. Other family members killed, etc.

This guy is the equivalent of a dog pound pit bull. Yeah he can protect your home, but he could just as likely kill your kid.

Draft him, and with Hali and Houston, they become the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Gonna be interesting to see where the QBs go, and how early they get drafted.

Best case scenario is 3 of the QBs they like are still there at 27, and Ruben Foster is also there...take Foster and then package picks to move up from our second once 2 of the QBs come off the board and one of our favorites is still there in the mid second...then Sydney Jones falls to our third rounder.

I'd probably die because my boner would blow up and I'd bleed to death.

LMAO

Not buying it. He won't make out of the top 20.



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