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pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 03:29 PM

ILB Gerald Hodges visiting Chiefs
 
Per ProFootballTalk

"Gerald Hodges will visit the Chiefs, per source." - @ProFootballTalk

Would be a nice addition. A run stuffer who had a really nice year in SF in 2016. More importantly, it would get us closer to drafting that QBOTF...:D

RunKC 03-09-2017 03:31 PM

DJLN wanted this cat like a month ago.

Start your boner, DJ

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776444)
Per ProFootballTalk

"Gerald Hodges will visit the Chiefs, per source." - @ProFootballTalk

IIRC Hodges is a guy I wanted the Chiefs to look at in the Draft.

I think he's a blue-collar, tough player.


We could use some more toughness on our defense.

The Franchise 03-09-2017 03:31 PM

Trade for Kendricks

RealSNR 03-09-2017 03:34 PM

One of those slow developing players whose career looked like it was dead when he was with the Vikings. Really came back strong.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 03:35 PM

MY BOY!!!

ToxSocks 03-09-2017 03:35 PM

Draft Watt....and sign this guy too.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 03:37 PM

If this is the only outside FA we sign, I'll be fine. Didn't expect this.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 03:38 PM

My thoughts on him a few months ago:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12705159)
Gerald Hodges - ILB, 49ers.

This guy is an absolutely perfect fit. He's a guy that can play for DJ while we see when/if DJ can come back and continue to be an every down player. Once DJ is back, he could effortlessly play alongside DJ and provide an improvement in both the run and pass game.

I expect he'll get signed to a reasonable deal and he is easily my top target in this years FA class as a guy that can out-earn what you'll pay him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12705288)
Hodges can be a poor man's DJ, IMO. Not quite as good in the pass game but nearly as good against the run. He's a very good player that's under the radar because he doesn't have a big-time pedigree and he played for a lousy team in SF.

Like I said, he's as good a fit as I see in this year's FA class. He's not quite the fit that Maclin was (where desperate need met availability, familiarity and geography), but he's as close as you normally see.


RealSNR 03-09-2017 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12776469)
Draft Watt....and sign this guy too.


If Howard is healthy and kicks ass, we instantly have a pretty potent run defense.

Almost forces Sutton to use less dime

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776478)
If this is the only outside FA we sign, I'll be fine. Didn't expect this.

Yeah, I figured we could make a run at him but that was before we extended LDT. I know he didn't add a ton to the cap, but it signaled a quiet offseason.

Hodges can be a 3-4 year option and a solid starter for us. That's definitely more than I expected when the FA period started. He's young enough that you could sign him to a 4-5 year deal and spread the signing bonus over that period (and backload some salary) to make it work out.

If they were looking at 28-29 yr old guys, that would be a tough sell but at 26, Hodges has plenty of tread left. He'd be a really nice get.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12776486)
If Howard is healthy and kicks ass, we instantly have a pretty potent run defense.

Almost forces Sutton to use less dime

Don't forget Bailey

Hoover 03-09-2017 03:44 PM

All I want is an ILB in FA.

Dante84 03-09-2017 03:52 PM

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3. Gerald Hodges, San Francisco 49ers (82.4)
Acquired by the 49ers in a trade with the Vikings, Hodges struggled in his first year with the new team but took a big step in 2016. Hodges has graded well in run defense in his career and has posted solid grades the past two seasons rushing the passer when asked to do so. The concern for the former Penn State Nittany Lion are his inconsistencies in coverage, which will limit his ceiling. While he showed improvement in that area — yielding a career low 87.3 passer rating when targeted — he was also targeted a career-low 24 times in 2016 while still allowing 2 touchdowns.
Top 10 Free Agent Linebackers in FA

Dante84 03-09-2017 03:53 PM

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Dante84 03-09-2017 03:54 PM

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DadLeft4Cigarettes 03-09-2017 03:54 PM

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Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776468)
MY BOY!!!

So, you obviously know about him. What makes you excited? I like the move.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12776455)
IIRC Hodges is a guy I wanted the Chiefs to look at in the Draft.

I think he's a blue-collar, tough player.


We could use some more toughness on our defense.

He's gotta be exactly what you say if Dorsey signs him. They're getting ready to release Foles to free up some money.

penbrook 03-09-2017 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12776534)
He's gotta be exactly what you say if Dorsey signs him. They're getting ready to release Foles to free up some money.

Um they already did 😐

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DadLeft4Cigarettes (Post 12776521)
left nut is good. he mos knowlageable poster out here

I Love you !

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12776538)
Um they already did 😐

Oh, so sorry !

ChiefaRoo 03-09-2017 04:10 PM

I say KC should sign DJ to a 6 year contract with a huge up front signing bonus and then have a farewell year for him Gunther style. Now that's the Chiefs I know. Plus they might be able to pry Osweiler from the Browns if we trade Smiff heads up and give away our first rounder. GREAT SUCCESS!

"Brock Osweiler has all the tools" /Clark Hunt

Hoover 03-09-2017 04:12 PM

I think we should trade Tamba and a 4th rounder to the Browns for some cap space.

Titty Meat 03-09-2017 04:25 PM

My buddy who writes for the Sacramento Bee who said Acker sucked also said Hodges isn't any good. There's a reason the Niners with a billion dollars in cap space let him go.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12776581)
My buddy who writes for the Sacramento Bee who said Acker sucked also said Hodges isn't any good. There's a reason the Niners with a billion dollars in cap space let him go.

Dorsey has a coaching staff that brings out the best in players. The niners don't. Dorsey knows what to look for.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12776581)
My buddy who writes for the Sacramento Bee who said Acker sucked also said Hodges isn't any good. There's a reason the Niners with a billion dollars in cap space let him go.

That's because too many people are of the "Pro Bowl or Shit" mentality.

That doesn't work in a cap era.

Hodges isn't Hightower and frankly he might not be as good as Brown. But he's solid and he's undervalued. He's not going to be a cure-all but he's going to be a cost-effective piece that helps this defense in its area of greatest weakness.

He's a brick; not a wall. If he costs 90% of what Hightower costs, I'd say it's not a great move. But if he comes at 1/2 to 2/3 of what Hightower costs (a real possibility), he's a smarter, more cost-effective acquisition for this team.

He's just a nice fit.

Titty Meat 03-09-2017 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776589)
That's because too many people are of the "Pro Bowl or Shit" mentality.

That doesn't work in a cap era.

Hodges isn't Hightower and frankly he might not be as good as Brown. But he's solid and he's undervalued. He's not going to be a cure-all but he's going to be a cost-effective piece that helps this defense in its area of greatest weakness.

He's a brick; not a wall. If he costs 90% of what Hightower costs, I'd say it's not a great move. But if he comes at 1/2 to 2/3 of what Hightower costs (a real possibility), he's a smarter, more cost-effective acquisition for this team.

He's just a nice fit.


Yeah I trust Dorsey we also have way more talent on that side of the ball than San Francisco. As long as Bubba March or whatever he calls himself these days isn't playing and Wilson isn't out there on 3rd downs I'm happy.

RunKC 03-09-2017 04:36 PM

He's better than Ramik and can stop the run so he'd be an upgrade. I like Ramik as a backup tho

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12776605)
He's better than Ramik and can stop the run so he'd be an upgrade. I like Ramik as a backup tho

I just want to be in a place where we're no longer expecting anything from March-Lillard.

A) He can't get on the field.
B) Whenever he's been there, I haven't seen this insane camp specimen that we keep reading about. I see a guy that gets lost in open space and washed out of tight spaces. He seems undersized for the run and not intuitive enough to succeed in coverage.

I'm just done with March. Wilson's a tolerable 'break glass in case of emergency' option but as our primary ILB (Mike or whatever the hell we call DJ's role), he's just not good enough. But if you put Hodges - a credible replacement for DJ - in that role and put Wilson alongside him, you're fine.

It's not an elite unit, not the best in the NFL, but a good solid LB corps. If you're rolling out there with Wilson, March, Rookie and the tattered remains of DJ's lower body, you're in trouble. You need to move everyone in that group down a spot (and make DJ's return a luxury). Hodges would allow us to do that.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12776605)
He's better than Ramik and can stop the run so he'd be an upgrade. I like Ramik as a backup tho

Ramik got better and better the more he played.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12776637)
Ramik got better and better the more he played.

Until he had to replace Derrick Johnson.

Now mind you, I was hammered for the Denver game so I can't speak directly to it, but in the TN, SD and Pitt games, he appeared exposed to me. I really felt like he was being picked on in the SD game and selectively abused against Pitt; they seemed to find him when they needed to.

Wilson was a pleasant surprise as a starter alongside DJ; he played well when given more limited responsibilities. I don't think he was able to handle the all-around role that we asked of him when Johnson went down.

I think Hodges would do a better job there and allow Wilson to slide back into a secondary role.

Chief Roundup 03-09-2017 04:52 PM

Thought we were out of the FA market....

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776641)
Until he had to replace Derrick Johnson.

Now mind you, I was hammered for the Denver game so I can't speak directly to it, but in the TN, SD and Pitt games, he appeared exposed to me. I really felt like he was being picked on in the SD game and selectively abused against Pitt; they seemed to find him when they needed to.

Wilson was a pleasant surprise as a starter alongside DJ; he played well when given more limited responsibilities. I don't think he was able to handle the all-around role that we asked of him when Johnson went down.

I think Hodges would do a better job there and allow Wilson to slide back into a secondary role.

I was hammered in the Denver game as well. I didn't make him a focal point but I just remember some splash plays from him. Now, lets see what this off-season and TC brings with his development. Also add in the DL coming back healthy and hopefully better. Yes, I want Ramik as the secondary LB. Next to a stud. That's why I wanted someone like Hightower.

DadLeft4Cigarettes 03-09-2017 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12776540)
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pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 05:06 PM

I think Hodges would come in on a deal around 3 years/$16M. Somewhere in that range. Low cap hit year one.

I'm hitting the All-22 soon to watch more of him and formulate a better feel, but on the surface it would be a nice get.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12776643)
Thought we were out of the FA market....

We haven't signed anyone yet.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776677)
I think Hodges would come in on a deal around 3 years/$16M. Somewhere in that range. Low cap hit year one.

I'm hitting the All-22 soon to watch more of him and formulate a better feel, but on the surface it would be a nice get.

I was thinking in the 4/$20 range but the market is so flush that I'm probably shooting low.

Mr. Laz 03-09-2017 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DadLeft4Cigarettes (Post 12776521)
left nut is good. he mos knowlageable poster out here

I bet you like right nut as well, not to mention center salami.

O.city 03-09-2017 05:09 PM

DJLN gets lucky and talks about a guy we bring in now we never will hear the end of that shit.


Damn. LOL.

Chief Roundup 03-09-2017 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776641)
Until he had to replace Derrick Johnson.

That was not his normal position. He was to start next to Derrick Johnson not take his place. That was March-Lillard and then Alexander.
He should not be expected to switch positions and play near as good as DJ. They had different skill sets.

Chief Roundup 03-09-2017 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12776678)
We haven't signed anyone yet.

Other than Berry, Sorenson, Santos, Wilson and Tardiff you mean.

T-post Tom 03-09-2017 05:13 PM

Seems like a good fit. Go Dorsey!

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12776686)
That was not his normal position. He was to start next to Derrick Johnson not take his place. That was March-Lillard and then Alexander.
He should not be expected to switch positions and play near as good as DJ. They had different skill sets.

Of course, but his skill sets are unlikely to change.

And as I've noted, I don't want March-Lillard in any sort of place where we need him. So in my world, Wilson's again set to replace DJ and as you've noted, his skills don't fit that job terribly well.

Hodges aren't necessarily ideal for it but neither are Hightower's. It's not easy to replace Derrick Johnson.

But I think a better version of a guy like Wilson can do the job, especially if Wilson continues to improve and can help carry some of that load. You aren't going to replace DJ's ability with 1 guy but might be able to do so with 2 of them that play slightly better than the person they are 'replacing'. Hodges being an improvement over Wilson in that role and Wilson developing would make him a bit better than last year's version.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12776684)
DJLN gets lucky and talks about a guy we bring in now we never will hear the end of that shit.


Damn. LOL.

I still think it's a long-shot; not a lot of money here.

But hey, when has CP ever been easy on FA acquisitions? It's far more likely that I'm just the asshole that wanted to bring this lousy Joe Mays wannabe in here.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776681)
I was thinking in the 4/$20 range but the market is so flush that I'm probably shooting low.

They might have to go 4 years in order to make the 2017 cap hit as low as possible.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 05:23 PM

KC has to be careful though. I still think they will end up having to decide whether or not to match an offer for Santos.

beach tribe 03-09-2017 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 12776555)
I say KC should sign DJ to a 6 year contract with a huge up front signing bonus and then have a farewell year for him Gunther style. Now that's the Chiefs I know. Plus they might be able to pry Osweiler from the Browns if we trade Smiff heads up and give away our first rounder. GREAT SUCCESS!

"Brock Osweiler has all the tools" /Clark Hunt

Where you been, bro?

You a lurkster now?

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776723)
KC has to be careful though. I still think they will end up having to decide whether or not to match an offer for Santos.

Kickers are just so fragile and volatile.

I mean we see guys like Blair Walsh just come apart seemingly overnight. A guy like Chris Boswell can't keep his job for years and then goes to Pittsburgh and is nails.

You look at McManus, who the Broncos just threw a 2nd round tender at, and remember that the Broncos cut him mid-season in 2014 to bring in Connor Barth. And that happened after Matt Prater seemingly lost his form before suddenly finding it again in Detroit. Kickers are just weird bugs, man.

If someone offers Santos an offer-sheet that makes it difficult for the Chiefs to match, you just let him go. You draft a kicker and bring in a veteran for camp competition (because there's always a veteran bouncing around).

You've got at least a decent chance of being just fine at K. Sure, I'd like to keep Santos because we've put a lot into him, but I won't hamstring the roster to keep him.

Chief Roundup 03-09-2017 05:30 PM

Wonder how our cap looks after cutting Foles??

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 05:37 PM

I wouldn't pay him a ton. I'd rather keep the cap space and find one in the draft if it cost the 4/20 deal.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12776736)
Wonder how our cap looks after cutting Foles??

Dogshit

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12776736)
Wonder how our cap looks after cutting Foles??

Jim Miller said on Sirius it opened up 10 mil

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 05:49 PM

We should have around $7M in cap space. Doesn't account for your draft class. Not enough to sign more than 1 or 2 cheap FAs.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776767)
We should have around $7M in cap space. Doesn't account for your draft class. Not enough to sign more than 1 or 2 cheap FAs.

They could always cut Colquitt.

Cut Colquitt and Reid and you've freed up right at $6 million. And truth be told, we get such limited use out of Sherman anymore that if we're not going to utilize him, I don't see a point in keeping him around at $2.3 million. That said, he's underpaid related to what other FBs just got so I'd look to deal rather than cut him.

Still can't believe they tendered Wilson at $1.8 million. Crazy.

thabear04 03-09-2017 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776777)
They could always cut Colquitt.

Cut Colquitt and Reid and you've freed up right at $6 million. And truth be told, we get such limited use out of Sherman anymore that if we're not going to utilize him, I don't see a point in keeping him around at $2.3 million. That said, he's underpaid related to what other FBs just got so I'd look to deal rather than cut him.

Still can't believe they tendered Wilson at $1.8 million. Crazy.

Rather trade Colquitt to the Colts since their Punter retired.

Sassy Squatch 03-09-2017 05:59 PM

Is this a deal that's potentially going to be done today or future visit?

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776777)
They could always cut Colquitt.

Cut Colquitt and Reid and you've freed up right at $6 million. And truth be told, we get such limited use out of Sherman anymore that if we're not going to utilize him, I don't see a point in keeping him around at $2.3 million. That said, he's underpaid related to what other FBs just got so I'd look to deal rather than cut him.

Still can't believe they tendered Wilson at $1.8 million. Crazy.

Really !

Cutting Colquitt would be dumb. he's a top 5 punter
Cutting Reid would be dumb. Always need depth on the OL and he's good depth
Cutting sherman would be dumb.Best FB in the NFL and always leads the team in Forced fumbles


Just quit with the dumb !

mcaj22 03-09-2017 06:02 PM

I don't think Hodges has much of a market, despite being young and playing okay on a bad team. I think we can get him cheap

The 49ers replaced him with Malcolm Smith from the Raiders who is absolutely terrible.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 06:05 PM

Reid played one snap in the playoff game and it was probably the snap that hurt us more than any play of the game because he couldn't so much as get a hand on his guy. Said guy hit Smith as he threw and led directly to an interception.

'Depth' is what draft picks are for. You don't pay $3+ million to Jah Reid for depth.

And you don't pay a punter $5 million for anything. I've gone over this 'Colquitt is the greatest' stuff before and he just isn't. He was outside the top 10 in net punting average again this year, which happens every couple of years for him. And he's never inside the top 5. He's just a fine punter but the difference between him and a slightly below average punter is about a yard per punt.

If you can't get that out of your STs unit, then I guess 'Dave Toub: STs Superstar" is just a myth.

Paying $5 million for a punter is ridiculous.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776777)
They could always cut Colquitt.

Cut Colquitt and Reid and you've freed up right at $6 million. And truth be told, we get such limited use out of Sherman anymore that if we're not going to utilize him, I don't see a point in keeping him around at $2.3 million. That said, he's underpaid related to what other FBs just got so I'd look to deal rather than cut him.

Still can't believe they tendered Wilson at $1.8 million. Crazy.

I think a cleaner method would be one restructure, depending who it is. With that, you could keep all those guys and still sign a Hodges level player.

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12776795)
I think a cleaner method would be one restructure, depending who it is. With that, you could keep all those guys and still sign a Hodges level player.

Just because you CAN spend $8 million on a backup guard and a punter doesn't mean you should.

Even if a restructure keeps those guys on the roster, they shouldn't be here at those figures either way. That's too much money for too little production.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776798)
Just because you CAN spend $8 million on a backup guard and a punter doesn't mean you should.

Even if a restructure keeps those guys on the roster, they shouldn't be here at those figures either way. That's too much money for too little production.

I don't think you're wrong about that, but it's nice to have those slots filled so when draft day comes, KC is drafting BPA round after round. It would kinda suck to go into the draft thinking 'we HAVE to find a swing tackle.'

Preferably, you have Reid on the roster and if at some point your BPA is a swing tackle, then you cut him IMO.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776793)
Reid played one snap in the playoff game and it was probably the snap that hurt us more than any play of the game because he couldn't so much as get a hand on his guy. Said guy hit Smith as he threw and led directly to an interception.

'Depth' is what draft picks are for. You don't pay $3+ million to Jah Reid for depth.

And you don't pay a punter $5 million for anything. I've gone over this 'Colquitt is the greatest' stuff before and he just isn't. He was outside the top 10 in net punting average again this year, which happens every couple of years for him. And he's never inside the top 5. He's just a fine punter but the difference between him and a slightly below average punter is about a yard per punt.

If you can't get that out of your STs unit, then I guess 'Dave Toub: STs Superstar" is just a myth.

Paying $5 million for a punter is ridiculous.

Eric fishers hold is what hurt us the most and Colquitt is one of the best punters in the league at dropping it inside the 20. He was directly responsible for not taking the snap to Albert wilson that went for a TD too. Think about that !

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12776805)
Eric fishers hold is what hurt us the most and Colquitt is one of the best punters in the league at dropping it inside the 20. He was directly responsible for not taking the snap to Albert wilson that went for a TD too. Think about that !

And the number of times he's dropped it inside the 20 is reflected by improved net punting average that doesn't have to include those touchbacks.

And yet he's still just okay.

It's like saying that Alex Smith is really good at avoiding turnovers - sure, and that's part of his game. It's not good enough to justify keeping him around.

Dustin Colquitt does that one thing well - but he's below average at directional and distance punting. He's just a fine punter; he damn sure ain't worth $5 million.

Mother****erJones 03-09-2017 06:17 PM

That's what I wanted to do in order to get Hightower. Cut Colquitt, Reid, Sherman and free up cap. I haven't heard a peep about Hightower so who knows.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 06:20 PM

Hey mother****er , that ain't happenen. It's all dumb thinking and why Dorsey and reid run this show instead of DJ's left nut and some mother****er !

DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 06:23 PM

You still think Johnny Manziel is good at football.

As such, your opinions cannot be trusted.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776830)
You still think Johnny Manziel is good at football.

As such, your opinions cannot be trusted.

You can't prove he isn't . Drafted by the Browns who failed their last 21 QB's.

:harumph:

Sassy Squatch 03-09-2017 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12776835)
You can't prove he isn't . Drafted by the Browns who failed their last 21 QB's.

:harumph:

His failure has less to do with the Browns and more to do with his rampant alcoholism and general douchebaggery.

ChiefaRoo 03-09-2017 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12776733)
Where you been, bro?

You a lurkster now?

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I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd but when they said `Sit down' I stood up
Ooh-ooh growin' up

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-09-2017 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 12776864)
His failure has less to do with the Browns and more to do with his rampant alcoholism and general douchebaggery.

Well , the way I see it he did just fine at T A&M , no issues . Then the Browns draftd him and said they were going to change his style of play and he said **** this shit. His spirit was completely taken away. Teams with good ownership /management keep their players under some type of control. You have to realize there's some common denominator to the number of failed QBs going through Cleveland. Brady Quinn was even talking about it this week as to how so many players are failed by the teams and environment the get put in and careers get absolutely ruined.

ChiefaRoo 03-09-2017 07:10 PM

Barkevious Mingo //PRINT 'EM!

Sassy Squatch 03-09-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12776894)
Well , the way I see it he did just fine at T A&M , no issues . Then the Browns draftd him and said they were going to change his style of play and he said **** this shit. His spirit was completely taken away. Teams with good ownership /management keep their players under some type of control. You have to realize there's some common denominator to the number of failed QBs going through Cleveland. Brady Quinn was even talking about it this week as to how so many players are failed by the teams and environment the get put in and careers get absolutely ruined.

Yeah, no. He was arrested for his drunken behavior before he even started playing for the Aggies. This type of shit didn't start in Cleveland. He was a damn fine college QB but that doesn't mean shit if he's not there mentally.

Chief Northman 03-09-2017 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo (Post 12776901)
Barkevious Mingo //PRINT 'EM!

WUT

-King- 03-09-2017 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776793)
Reid played one snap in the playoff game and it was probably the snap that hurt us more than any play of the game because he couldn't so much as get a hand on his guy. Said guy hit Smith as he threw and led directly to an interception.

'Depth' is what draft picks are for. You don't pay $3+ million to Jah Reid for depth.

And you don't pay a punter $5 million for anything. I've gone over this 'Colquitt is the greatest' stuff before and he just isn't. He was outside the top 10 in net punting average again this year, which happens every couple of years for him. And he's never inside the top 5. He's just a fine punter but the difference between him and a slightly below average punter is about a yard per punt.

If you can't get that out of your STs unit, then I guess 'Dave Toub: STs Superstar" is just a myth.

Paying $5 million for a punter is ridiculous.

I don't know. He's arguably the 2nd best punter in the league and is paid like it. Him and Hekker have pretty much the same contracts
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DJ's left nut 03-09-2017 07:33 PM

He's also arguably the 10th best punter in the league and the point is that you can't hardly slide a piece of paper between the gap from 2-10.

It's just not a position worth paying for the top of the line guy.

Titty Meat 03-09-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12776684)
DJLN gets lucky and talks about a guy we bring in now we never will hear the end of that shit.


Damn. LOL.

I'll admit I was high on Hodges but DJ is selling me on him. He's crushing the thread IMO.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-09-2017 07:36 PM

My question is where the hell is Zach Brown? Haven't heard a peep about him.

He would be an awesome addition I believe.

-King- 03-09-2017 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12776807)
And the number of times he's dropped it inside the 20 is reflected by improved net punting average that doesn't have to include those touchbacks.

And yet he's still just okay.

It's like saying that Alex Smith is really good at avoiding turnovers - sure, and that's part of his game. It's not good enough to justify keeping him around.

Dustin Colquitt does that one thing well - but he's below average at directional and distance punting. He's just a fine punter; he damn sure ain't worth $5 million.

Isn't distance punting a product of terrible offense? Only reason you would ask your punter to punt for distance is if your team is constantly backed up on their own side of the field. The chiefs offense isn't constantly backed up so we never get to see colquitt kick for distance.
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