Osweiler + 2nd Round Pick to the Browns
 

Freeing up space for Romo to Houston?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stunner: Texans trade Brock Osweiler AND 2018 2nd-rd pick to CLEV for Browns to take Osweiler contract off Houston books, sources tell ESPN.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/839937960103530499">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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LMAO Browns gonna Brown

The Browns are certainly an interesting organization.

Wow browns.
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Well then. That's a legit stunner. Houston gave up picks just to dump his contract.

The Browns had a zillion dollars in cap space and numerous picks. They can still sign guys and/or draft another QB.

Houston wants them some Romo.

YES

ROFL

I don't know why people are making fun of the Browns for this

Where careers go to die

Romo to Texans

Has to be followed by Romo to the Texans.

this is turning into an intriguing situation regarding teams looking for qb's. does this mean some of these qb's in the draft fall to the chiefs? :D

and how do you go from being a bronco, to a texan, to a brown in less than two years ROFL

whats this do for the rumor seimen to the jets?

Brock Osweiller just officially became the worst free agent signing in NFL history.

Romo to Houston I can live with that as long its not Denver.

You see this kind of shit in the NBA.

First time I've heard of a "salary dump" trade in the NFL in quite some time.

I don't quite understand, but there's speculation that the Browns will make the trade, then release Ossweiler.

So, Houston gives up draft picks simply to shed salary

Romo signs with the Texans

Donkos go with Semen/Lynch

Profit

Please tell me that after watching Osweiler shit the bed last season that the Browns did not just pick up that entire remaining contract. No one is going to claim the Browns organization is functional, and I understand they got better picks back than they gave up, but they didn't...really...do that, right?

I wish Denver would've done it to be honest.

Would Goodell allow this? Basically just selling cap space for picks?

Also, if you're the Browns, why the **** WOULDN'T you do this contract?

If KC was staring at a long rebuild and you were the GM, wouldn't YOU do this deal? They get a ****ing 2nd round pick in an insanely deep draft for crying out loud. What the hell else are you going to do with that money?

Such a weird trade.

Just said the same thing in another thread. I've never seen an NBA trade like this in the NFL.

that would make the strange even stranger. :D

Exactly. The Browns are smart for doing this.

The Browns have 12 draft picks and like $100 million in cap space. If they actually go into the season with Osweiler and no other improvements, yeah this is horrible. But really this should be brilliant because they picked up a free 2nd round pick next year.

They have around 5 picks in the first 100 this year. Two 1st, two 2nd and two 4th rounders. They could conceivably draft two QBs if they wanted, and go into camp with Osweiler and two rookies battling for the job.

Might as well keep him for a year though.

big cap hit

Yep....I was waiting for the term "cash considerations" to be mentioned.

It is a 2018 pick, not this year. But still, it's a 2nd rounder.

The Browns could take Myles Garrett at 1 and Watson at 12. Let Osweiler start and then cut him next year when Watson can start.

Wow. They really hate the rookie QBs and want some Romo. The Denver is dead.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">By trading Osweiler, Texans had a cap cleaning. They won&#39;t trade for Romo but will be interested if he becomes a UFA. Have more 2 spend.</p>&mdash; John McClain (@McClain_on_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/McClain_on_NFL/status/839940866957508608">March 9, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Trade crashed Over-the-cap website


LMAO

I think it's because the Browns just voluntarily agreed to pay Brock Osweiler $16 million this year, but that's just a wild guess.

It's going to be something like that.

Agreed. The Texans basically paid them to take Cock Assweilder off their hands.

So the only thing Houston got out of this trade was getting rid of their quarterback? That seems unprecedented. I've never heard of such a thing in the NFL.

It's not so much because they did it, it's because they were in a position to do it.

The organization is such a dumpster fire that they just burned cap up while other teams are treating cap space like gold. It takes years of stupid moves to make this move a "smart one".

Mahomes to the Texans

Why? Osweiler's salary for 2017 -- $16MM -- is fully guaranteed.

Pretty brilliant actually.

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Texans insisting at the moment that they will not TRADE for Romo.

Houston better make that shit happen...

That's actually really smart.

Some basketball teams in recent years have wised up a bit and realized that they have cap space but no talent to use it on. So they take on a shitty player's bad contract for a draft pick. They burn space they didn't want to use on a mediocre player on a long-term deal and in the process get a free pick from the deal.

Nice move from Cleveland. They had more space than there were players to spend it on, so get the pick, cut Oswieler if necessary and get a nice '18 draft pick to use as a potential chip to trade up in a loaded '18 QB class.

Yes. This is an NBA-like salary cap dump move.


Browns got -- Osweiler, Houston's 2017 6th rounder, and 2018 2nd round pick.

Houston got -- Cleveland's 2017 4th round pick, and rid of the albatross contract.

Very possibly, yes.

And the Browns have that much more thunder to throw at the '18 class.

It's not a positive development for KC.

yep

I wonder who thought it up, Houston or Cleveland?


Probably Houston

it actually is smart. wasn't cleveland and the raiders in danger of being fined for not using a certain percentage of their cap space? maybe not the raiders now, but a year before they had a shit ton of space too. :D

We would be celebrating if the Chiefs did this. The Browns were going to have to spend a ton to just hit the cap floor. They are still going to have around $90 million to spend, and they have a dozen draft picks this year, and 8 picks in the first four rounds over the next two years.

They could draft multiple QBs and still reload the team up and down the line. Now this is the Browns, so they'll find a way to mess it up, but they are in a tremendous position to rebuild. I wonder how much Paul DePodesta had a hand in this. He's a baseball "Moneyball" guy they brought in to work in football operations.

Laz tried to make fun of Cleveland for this LMAO

I got a kick out of that

If you watched the first 8 or so Texan games last year, trust me, it makes perfect sense. He was slipping into Ryan Leaf/Todd Marinovich territory, in terms of being a bad qb and a terrible leader. He's not a bright human being. If the Texans would've bothered to have a face-to-face meeting with him before throwing away tens of millions on him (they didn't), that would've been apparent to them.

Kudos to his agent though, that guy is a freaking wizard.

I believe the Browns now have 10 picks in 2017 and 10 picks in 2018. Plus more if they get any comp picks next year.

sure as hell what i'd do, or dump him for a 7th to NYJ

Cleveland wins this one just due to their cap space.

No shit.

Take the cap hit and keep the cash.

They won't be anywhere near the cap ceiling anyway.

Seems like a win for both teams really. Bigger win for the Browns who get a look at a QB a couple of teams were offering 15 mill+ just a year ago plus the pick swap improvement.

happens a LOT in the nhl

Too bad they're so terrible at drafting.

Garrapolo, awaits

It was my first initial response before all the other information came out.

I realize that it brings you so much joy to try and lecture people about how smarter you are but damn, just let it go.

Cleveland can draft a QB and have little pressure to start the guy this year or even the next, letting the best man win out of Osweiler and Kessler.

After making this move and getting better on the O-Line I'm starting to think Sashi Brown and John DePodesta are going to be just fine in the draft

This is actually the best you could ask for in prepping a rebuild, and I'm sure it was all DePodesta.

It don't mean shit unless you can hit on those picks.

You think they are going to do that too?

If so will they keep both on the roster for a season or just cut Osweiller immediately?

According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Browns are considering releasing Brock Osweiler.
This report comes just 20 minutes after the Browns acquired Osweiler from Houston in a bombshell trade nobody saw coming. It looks like there's a good chance Osweiler will never play a down for Cleveland as the Browns will simply absorb his $16 million salary and move on. Cleveland has all the cap space in the world so the $16 million hit isn't a big deterrent. Perhaps the Browns will package their first-round pick with the 2018 second-rounder they just received from Houston in a trade for Patriots QB Jimmy Garoppolo.

Hey Knowmo, how my ass taste?

I ****ing told you Osweiler sucked. I said it before he was drafted. I said it after. I said it when you posted tweet after tweet about all the wonderful things he did in Donks camp.

Yep,New England connection

If this actually happens how would you feel as Osweiler, lol. Unreal, why wouldn't they at least want to take a look

Imagine if these morons weren't stupid and drafted Carson Wentz.

Wentz+insane OL+picks in a strong defensive draft

Giving the Browns more draft picks is like giving a crackhead more crack.

Nothing good will come of it.

That's crazy. Cleveland is either really smart or just plain nuts.

That is some serious 'thinking outside the box' by the Browns if this comes to be. :eek:

Your post was literally in response to a tweet with all of the information, but ok?

some crazy shit thinking any organization can literally throw away 16 million dollars.

Well there goes all hope of dumping Smith.

I would of game Cleveland Smith and our next two firsts to take Smith.

Have to say I really respect the Texans for making the move. Yes you screwed up getting him in the first place, but you admitted your mistake and moved on and didn't say "look! We beat a back up QB with him in the playoffs! He can totally take us to the super bowl!". The ultimate goal is to win a super bowl and not some silly meaningless playoff game. I wish one particular franchise would do the same thing....

That sounds like a good way to Browns up this seemingly great move.

Worse than Scott Mitchell?