Ballard Interviewing for Colts GM
 

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Chiefs director of football operations Chris Ballard will interview for the Colts' general-manager vacancy on Wednesday.

Ballard has been a hot name in GM searches the past couple years. He turned down an interview request from the 49ers earlier this month, but the Colts job comes with a franchise quarterback in Andrew Luck. The Colts are casting a wide net in their search to replace overmatched Ryan Grigson.

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I'm just going to put my faith in the idea that either Ballard or Dorsey remains in KC.

I assume Ballard interviewing means Dorsey's more likely to stay.

Well Bye



I guess

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Not that he will take the Indy job but he seems to be a hot economy so if not there somewhere he thinks is appealing. I wish him best if it's in the NFC.

Andrew Luck. Franchise QB. Heh

Yes, a hot economy.

The hottest economy there is.

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Yes he would offer the best value for your money as a GM.


I maybe thinking of a different word but similar meaning. Hot item of purchase sort of thing.

I think you meant hot commodity.

Deserves all the escalades.

He definitely deserves KaDos for the job he's done here

This thread is mind bottling.

It needs MOAR posts

A hot astronomy for sure.

Will be a star someday.

A big lobotomy thinks this deal gets done.

He's a hot Deuteronomy, changes of a biblical proportion

ROFL!

This thread clearly is not going to disappoint.

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So much for the bullshit about Ballard getting a raise with the Chiefs.

DORSEY IS NOT ****ING LEAVING.

It's been proven over and over that the dude who put that thought out there as news was just throwing shit at the wall and getting a buzz from it. There is ZERO evidence to believe that Dorsey has even entertained the thought for 2 seconds while taking a shit

Also, it ****ing sucks to be the 49ers now. Laughing at those jackasses.

Sounds like the Chiefs did Ballard a solid by pretending to block the interview with the 49ers.

Not sure this is a whole lot better given that he's working for Irsay. But I guess he'll probably let the GM do whatever he wants.

It'll be interesting to see how he does if he leaves. Has been a genius in KC so I don't want him to go. But he was also kind of a disaster in Chicago.

Well, bye.

Two thoughts. One, if I'm Ballard I don't take the job unless they let me fire Pagano. And two, if they let him fire Pagano, any chance he takes Toub with him?

Hard to say if he's a guy that needs a steadying influence to keep from going off the rails or not. Some people just aren't quite cut out for the big chair but can be invaluable lieutenants.

But I'd hate to see him go to Indy and do well. Sooner or later Brady's stranglehold on this conference will end and if a competent GM takes over and makes it Luck's decade, well won't that just be a kick in the balls?

Maybe Clark has instructed him to take the job, then make a trade to KC, Luck for Smith and then get fired and Clark hires him back.

In spite of Reids foibles, I sincerely believe that between Andy and John... we can create a team here that is a match for the Ballard/Luck Colts 8 days a week

Let him go, we cant keep everyone anyway... what we need is a QB, Reids clock management/run game stubborness problems will look a lot smaller if we can get that figured out

Gotta get at least 90% of what the Colts have with Luck. Luck isn't Brady and perhaps will never quite live up to his hype, but he's still 2 years away from being the best QB in the AFC and by a fair amount.

The Chiefs will have to close that gap. As has been noted elsewhere, the key is that they have to get a quarterback that's capable of coming back from mistakes made by his teammates because mistakes will absolutely happen.

Winning games by simply not screwing up isn't going to cut it. They need to acknowledge that screwups happen and get someone under center that's capable of overcoming them.

I'm cautiously optimistic that they realize this and changes are going to be made sooner rather than later. Then again, the last time things looked this obvious the answer was Brady Quinn...

Why you gotta go straight for the juggler?

Not sold on Luck.

Looks like we will be coming up on Carr's decade, and that's an even bigger kick in the nuts.

Luck > Carr... dont blame Luck for the mess that team is in, the guy is a stud in waiting

Carr, it honestly feels like this guy can still become a product of a losing mindset no matter the potential displayed... he isnt a big guy, and if you can smack him around early he is a jittery mess

I want that 6'5 250 or so kid, the one who can stand tall under duress and still get off an accurate throw with bodies piling up... basically its Bray, but go ahead and heap scorn on me now

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i love this place.
this thread has the best of both worlds.
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Elliott Wolf got a raise from the Packers and he's interviewing too.

hindsight is 50/50.

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Hey that's my line

With a ya DJ. Totally sold on Luck and had Grigson been a real GM Luck would not have regressed because of a very porous o-line and no running game. Look how Luck never panicked against the Chiefs in the playoffs and actually starting the 2nd half with a pick furthering our lead and yet still lead the comeback. Granted our d sucked balls but......

This could work out for us. Ballard goes to Indy and takes DJ and Jamaal for some nice draft picks!

You really think the Chiefs would give Ballard a raise WITHOUT Ballard agreeing to stay at least the next year?

Only if Hunt/Dorsey/Reid were idiots.

Any new contract/raise would absolutely include something that kept Ballard in KC for another year.

Yeah, physically Luck is superior to Carr in every way. And from a passing standpoint, he's more aggressive and more accurate downfield.

If you're backing Carr's horse here, it has to be on the basis of intangibles and frankly, I don't see Carr being any sort of cut above Luck in that regard either. Luck's a very smart quarterback and by all accounts a premier leader in the lockerroom.

I see nothing that Carr does better than Luck nor do I see anyplace where he's likely to surpass Luck. Carr had potentially the best OL in football and 2 WRs playing at a premium level. Luck had Hilton and a trash OL because Grigson is hot garbage.

I'd take Luck over Carr 10 times out of 10. Carr's going to be a good player, but more in the Phillip Rivers to Luck's Tom Brady. Rivers was a very good quarterback but still a tick below Brady. Such will be the case with Luck/Carr going forward.

I mean...until Mahomes blows by both of them.

I don't want either one retiring a Colt...:#

Luck>Carr one wears makeup one looks like a super manly caveman

Carr called his dislocated pinkie "the greatest pain I've ever felt in my life."

Well, now it's not.

Pussy...

I bet that broken leg changed his mind.

That's not how business, or promotions, work.

Giving Ballard a raise is mutually exclusive from Ballard interviewing for a higher level position in another organization.

Also, if the Chiefs could have blocked him from interviewing but didn't.

How exactly do front office contracts work?

Are they in any way similar to player contracts?

I doubt it...

No employer would force an employee to stay with them and not interview for a job they want unless they are morons.

lol

got me

There was a stat that came out in December, I'd have to find it... But Luck has had something like 35 different starting offensive lines. Thirty five. That's crazy. He's basically averaging a different starting OL once every two games in his career.

Luck is basically where Matt Ryan used to be. There was a time where a lot of people would say that he wasn't a franchise guy, but he absolutely is. Honestly I'm not sure any of these other guys have been given the load of crap Luck was handed. Terrible running game, poor defense, awful OL. Give him the Seahawks defense and watch what happens.

Sure that's how it works if the employer is just giving an employee a raise.

but that's not what was happening, it was a leverage situation

I've been on both sides of the situation

Workers - Headhunter wants me to leave
Boss- we want you to stay
Worker - I dunno, it's a good opportunity
Boss - How about if we give you a raise, would that help you decide to stay?
Worker - Ok, sounds good to me
Boss - Sound great, you agree to stay another year and we increase you pay xxx amount. How's that?
Worker - Yes, I'll stay or No, I need more money than that. (rinse/repeat bargain wage)

That would be how a friendly and respectful employment situation works. The Employer and Employee both give something and get something ... win/win.

If the employee is doing one of these ... "I'll take the raise but that doesn't mean shit about me leaving" then he's being a disrespectful dick.

If Ballard wants to interview to leave, then fine ... do it.
If Ballard wants to use an interview as leverage to get a raise but then stay ... fine.

His talent and marketability give him that power and give him that choice.

But you don't do BOTH unless you don't give a **** about your current employment situation.

Andrew HAS to learn how to give up. Take the dump off. He tends to hold on to the ball just a split second to long trying to hit the home run.

I've watched every snap of every game since he's been in the league and that's his biggest flaw.

Word is Ballard is the favorite. Sucks but it was bound to happen anyway.

Chris Ballard is the leading candidate for the Colts GM opening according to NFL.com.

With our luck, Ballard will have been the one with the keen eye not Dorsey.


Let the sucketh beginneth againeth

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told that Chiefs exec Chris Ballard is the &quot;clear favorite&quot; for the Colts GM job. I&#39;m also told he wants to change the head coach.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825171042062655488">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told that Pagano is a &quot;deal breaker&quot; for Ballard. Meaning Ballard will take the job so long as Pagano is canned.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825171633342013440">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One source close to the team said that Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is &quot;Ballard&#39;s guy,&quot; suggesting Toub is who Ballard wants as HC.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825172121894604800">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m told Vikings exec George Paton is a &quot;close second&quot; behind Ballard for the Colts GM job.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825174181281034241">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don&#39;t have any info on how the interview with Packers Eliot Wolf went, but I&#39;m told Jimmy Raye is considered the &quot;fallback option.&quot;</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825174711445266433">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also told the 2 SEA execs interviewed for Colts GM job (Kirchner and Fitterer) also wanted to change the HC. Tom Cable&#39;s name was mentioned.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825181675487260673">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reading between the lines, the only GM candidate I can see that ensures Chuck Pagano is safe for 2017 is Jimmy Raye.</p>&mdash; Brad Wells (@BradWellsNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradWellsNFL/status/825182175251230720">January 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Well, we could be losing both Ballard and Toub. That would ****ing suck, especially after losing Toub's top assistant to Denver.

Jesus

Belichick loses peeps nearly every year.

All he does win.

I don't know if Belichick is the greatest coach ever, nor do I know if Tom Brady is the greatest QB ever, but Belichick and Brady together are far and away the greatest coach/QB combo the NFL has EVER seen in its history.

The Colts guy seems like a Nick Athan. If you aren't "verified" on Twitter than you probably don't have inside info.

But if true that would be a massive hit for us. It's going to happen at some point, just hope not this year.

Yeah, just googled him and he has just as many haters as Athan does.

A glimmer of hope.

Eh, if he's gone, he's gone.

If it doesn't happen this year, it'll happen next.

It's kind of silly.

I'm thrilled with how well we've drafted over the past 4 years. I'm also thrilled with how well our Special Teams unit has performed in that time frame.

When you perform well, you rise the ranks and move on. Selfishly, I hope that doesn't happen this year, and will root for it to play out that way.

Looks like Ballard is leaving and Toub is going with him.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hearing Colts are definitely intrigued by Chiefs personnel man Chris Ballard and his preference would be Chief ST coach Dave Toub as his HC</p>&mdash; Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) <a href="https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/825499974024716293">January 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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The Chiefs don't have a chance of finding a QB, so it's pretty obvious that we're going to be surpassed pretty quickly by Ballard and Toub in Indy.

I thought Pagano was pretty much safe?

I could've swore that I read that the new potential GM's were meeting with Pagono 1 on 1.

Even if the Chiefs draft 1st round QBs every year for the next decade, there's a pretty solid chance they won't get an Andrew Luck. So if they offer it to Ballard I imagine he's gone. No reason to plow through a bunch of Tannehills and Manziels when you can have Luck, in his prime, handed to you on a platter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Colts bringing Chiefs director of personnel Chris Ballard back for a second interview, per Colts source. First candidate to get second int.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/825537884837048321">January 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Colts are about to be the team of the AFC in a couple years when Toub and Ballard build them up

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Ehh, they'd be lucky in the sense that they have Luck already, but neither has ever performed the job that they would in Indy.

I guess what I'm saying is, most thought Pioli was going to be a mastermind too.

Just having a QB puts them light years ahead of the Chiefs, and we know the Chiefs won't be able to successfully find a QB.

This sounds like a formality now. Toub will follow Ballard out of town, and the Chiefs will be gutted of two of their "shining stars" on staff. With uncertainty around Dorsey's status after this year, I am sadly convinced that this regime may have already peaked.

The divisional loss to Pittsburgh hurts even more. The Chiefs draft low again, their SOS for next season is a bitch, and by all accounts, the qb position will be status quo. Too many ascending teams in the AFC. The short window the Chiefs had is already closing.

Color me unimpressed.

Fear not. The 2018 QB class is on it's way.

Hope will be restored.

Why do you just pop in and post negative Chief news??? Turd.

Well maybe a lacklustre 2017 campaign can yield the Chiefs a pick in the draft where they might actually be in range for a legitimate franchise qb.

Not intrigued by what is available this year - too many warts on all these prospects.

Can't say people didn't ****ing see any of this coming four years ago. :rolleyes:

I'll color you as a ****ing moron instead

Safe to say Ballard knows our full draft board thus far, and our strategy going into FA and the draft. That sucks.

I also wonder how many of our scouts he will take with him, or other assistant coaches?

Definitely concerning.

Even if Ballard/Toub were to leave, and considering everything else, I'd have a hard time seeing less than 9 wins....

But, I'd have just as hard of a time seeing more than 10.

Huh? You predicted the team to win like 7games this year, nostradumbass