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Hoover 01-22-2017 09:28 PM

MELLINGER: Should The Packers Move On From Rogers?
 
It's been seven years since he won the Super Bowl.

He's 5-6 in the playoffs after that.

















OK: So don't kill me. I just think Alex gets a more shit than he really deserves. And the Packers have done a shit job at building much of a defense. Hell if Roger's isn't there, that team's not even close to .500.



Discuss :D

RobBlake 01-22-2017 09:31 PM

lmfao

Psyko Tek 01-22-2017 09:42 PM

with his super bowl record, it may be time to move on to another team

Rain Man 01-22-2017 09:57 PM

Rodgers clearly isn't getting it done any more.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-22-2017 10:01 PM

Tom Brady didn't win one for what 9 years? I think that Rodgers' agent should use that excuse.

PAChiefsGuy 01-22-2017 10:02 PM

He can't win in the playoffs and when the Packers won the SB with him in 2010 they had the 5th best D yds wise and #2 D ppg...

He sucks!!

Pitt Gorilla 01-22-2017 10:03 PM

Brady missed Hogan on a wide open throw in the first quarter!

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-22-2017 10:05 PM

Just another mountain of evidence that defense wins championships (see Denver in 2016). Patriots are taking home the title, that defense is ranked first in points allowed.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...e/seasontype/2

Their offense being spectacular is just icing on the cake.

Chiefshrink 01-22-2017 10:06 PM

Packers secondary were damn near down to their practice squad. They were decimated in that area and Ryan took advantage.

wazu 01-22-2017 10:07 PM

5-6 in the playoffs. We can only dream.

rabblerouser 01-22-2017 10:14 PM

Bring him in for a look?

ThaVirus 01-22-2017 10:40 PM

He's the only thing keeping that franchise afloat for the last handful of seasons.

stevieray 01-22-2017 10:45 PM

Ben and his FG drives and garbage time TD's

Loser.

rabblerouser 01-22-2017 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12704364)
Ben and his FG drives and garbage time TD's

Loser.

At least we would have forced them to kick FGs and keep it close and painfully interesting before shitting it all away at the end.

TripleThreat 01-22-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12704254)
Tom Brady didn't win one for what 9 years? I think that Rodgers' agent should use that excuse.

:shake:

DaNewGuy 01-22-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 12704277)
5-6 in the playoffs. We can only dream.

.......

ghak99 01-22-2017 11:36 PM

http://deadspin.com/report-aaron-rod...two-1789144885

Tribal Warfare 01-22-2017 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12704359)
He's the only thing keeping that franchise afloat for the last handful of seasons.

He's doing a great Elway impression

RobBlake 01-23-2017 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 12704419)

aaron is gay lol

Nickhead 01-23-2017 02:50 AM

i don't know who this mellenger cat is but...
 
he's a stoopid mother *****er!

bevischief 01-23-2017 03:51 AM

Please share the drugs you are on...

Nickhead 01-23-2017 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 12704496)
Please share the drugs you are on...

me or them? because i could not begin to tell you what THEY are on :D

KCUnited 01-23-2017 06:40 AM

Glad we took DJ instead.

ChiliConCarnage 01-23-2017 08:38 AM

saw on Twitter Rodgers has 3 playoff losses where his team gave up 44+ points.

Tom Bradys defense has never allowed 44 points in his 267 starts

Gravedigger 01-23-2017 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 12704561)
saw on Twitter Rodgers has 3 playoff losses where his team gave up 44+ points.

Tom Bradys defense has never allowed 44 points in his 267 starts

Yep the Packers have never had a defense worth anything. It's always been Rogers or Favre. The last time the Pack had anything to fear was Reggie White with Brett Favre.

Rasputin 01-23-2017 08:55 AM

They should move on from Aaron and we should move on from Alex :hmmm:


Sounds fair enough let's trade Alex for Aaron



Get er done Dorsey what are you waiting on you can go to Green Bay also with Andy Reid and we can take Mike McCarthy

Rasputin 01-23-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12704574)
They should move on from Aaron and we should move on from Alex :hmmm:


Sounds fair enough let's trade Alex for Aaron



Get er done Dorsey what are you waiting on you can go to Green Bay also with Andy Reid and we can take Mike McCarthy

And still draft a quarterback to keep in the wings. Much rather him learn from Aaron Rogers than Alex Smith any day.

lcarus 01-23-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 12704517)
Glad we took DJ instead.

DJ Pros: Great tackler, great defensive leader, great in coverage
DJ Cons: Has a ghost following him around with garden shears tryin to snip his achilles when nobodys around him

Overall I think the pros outweighed the cons.

Maybe that ghost belongs to Jovan Belcher?

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FloridaMan88 01-23-2017 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12704167)
OK: So don't kill me. I just think Alex gets a more shit than he really deserves. And the Packers have done a shit job at building much of a defense. Hell if Roger's isn't there, that team's not even close to .500.Discuss :D

A few things:

1) Alex Smith and the Chiefs pathetic passing game was one of (if not THE) primary reasons the Chiefs lost to Pittsburgh in the playoffs, whereas Aaron Rodgers was probably the only Green Bay player who played well enough to win against Atlanta. The Chiefs defense held Pittsburgh to 6 field goals, whereas Green Bay's defense went into Greg Robinson mode against Atlanta.

2) Tom Brady shredded a Pittsburgh pass defense that stifled Alex Smith and held him to a QB rating under 70 and under 200 yards passing.

3) The two teams playing in the Super Bowl are ranked 3rd (Atlanta) and 4th (New England) in passing offense. Bubble Screen Alex Smith's passing offense= 19th.

So yesterday just re-confirmed to everyone except for the fanatical Alex Smith Apologists (who still cling to the delusional belief that Alex Smith is a "franchise QB") that the Chiefs will not become a legit Super Bowl contender until production from the QB position is upgraded significantly.

oldman 01-23-2017 03:34 PM

I'd offer them a 2nd and Albert Wilson. Hey, a guy can dream.

dls6501 01-23-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12704272)
Just another mountain of evidence that defense wins championships (see Denver in 2016). Patriots are taking home the title, that defense is ranked first in points allowed.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/t...e/seasontype/2

Their offense being spectacular is just icing on the cake.

Wait....now points allowed is the measuring stick of a good defense and not yards given up? That wasnt what you were arguing about OUR defense for the last 8 days.

RealSNR 01-23-2017 04:32 PM

MELLINGER: Should The Packers Move On From Rogers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 12704561)
saw on Twitter Rodgers has 3 playoff losses where his team gave up 44+ points.

Tom Bradys defense has never allowed 44 points in his 267 starts


Rogers isn't very good at scoring hidden TDs or setting up the punter

lewdog 01-23-2017 06:19 PM

Speaking of a retread QB I'd actually like to have.

RobBlake 01-23-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12704584)
A few things:

1) Alex Smith and the Chiefs pathetic passing game was one of (if not THE) primary reasons the Chiefs lost to Pittsburgh in the playoffs, whereas Aaron Rodgers was probably the only Green Bay player who played well enough to win against Atlanta. The Chiefs defense held Pittsburgh to 6 field goals, whereas Green Bay's defense went into Greg Robinson mode against Atlanta.

2) Tom Brady shredded a Pittsburgh pass defense that stifled Alex Smith and held him to a QB rating under 70 and under 200 yards passing.

3) The two teams playing in the Super Bowl are ranked 3rd (Atlanta) and 4th (New England) in passing offense. Bubble Screen Alex Smith's passing offense= 19th.

So yesterday just re-confirmed to everyone except for the fanatical Alex Smith Apologists (who still cling to the delusional belief that Alex Smith is a "franchise QB") that the Chiefs will not become a legit Super Bowl contender until production from the QB position is upgraded significantly.

it's not just Alex, it's Chiefs dropping balls, if you can't acknowledge that honestly, then lets not be in the business of analyzing the game.. Also, the entire game plan was different.. and i've said it a thousand times.. KC needs to emulate NE's game plan. Imagine Hill in the roll of Edelman.. good luck.

New World Order 01-23-2017 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12705621)
it's not just Alex, it's Chiefs dropping balls, if you can't acknowledge that honestly, then lets not be in the business of analyzing the game.. Also, the entire game plan was different.. and i've said it a thousand times.. KC needs to emulate NE's game plan. Imagine Hill in the roll of Edelman.. good luck.


Raiders had more dropped balls than we did this year and they lit up the scoreboard.

Dropped balls are going to happen to any team. You just need a quarterback capable enough of offsetting others' mistakes. He's obviously incapable of doing that.

But let's be real, our passing offense ain't good.

RobBlake 01-23-2017 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12705631)
Raiders had more dropped balls than we did this year and they lit up the scoreboard.

Dropped balls are going to happen to any team. You just need a quarterback capable enough of offsetting others' mistakes. He's obviously incapable of doing that.

But let's be real, our passing offense ain't good.

I agree. There's just been too many WTF plays..that as a football fan.. I just can't see how a QB other than a REAL game changer can over come it.. and you know what.. alex tied the game at the end, it was a bull shit call 100% Even though fans want him gone today.. i really think the FO will look for a potential young gun in the draft and treat this as the last year of Alex being the unquestionable starter.

Marcellus 01-23-2017 07:05 PM

GB has wasted a bunch of Rodgers career so far.

Chief Roundup 01-23-2017 07:36 PM

We can talk about great QBs and all that stuff, but there is one thing that seperates Brady from the other few QBs in his class that has lead to all of the playoff appearances and SB wins. It is what he has allowed the Patriots to do with the fact that his cap hits have been $13 to $14 million a season and it is again next year as well. Not only do the Patriots have Tom friggin Brady but they have him at +/- $5 Million less than per year than the other greats. That definitely allows that team to sign players that the other teams cannot.

MahiMike 01-23-2017 07:37 PM

#notmysuperbowl

KranzDictum 01-23-2017 08:14 PM

Wasn't Rogers sick this week? I thought I saw a report on NFL.com.

Packers also started no named backups across the board at CB.

It isn't always about the QB.

PutQuinnIn 01-23-2017 08:40 PM

Is it me or have the Packers whiffed on alot of guys since Dorsey left?

TribalElder 01-23-2017 09:51 PM

Rodgers is shit

They should trade him and a second round pick to KC for Alex

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-23-2017 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage (Post 12704561)
saw on Twitter Rodgers has 3 playoff losses where his team gave up 44+ points.

Tom Bradys defense has never allowed 44 points in his 267 starts

Rodgers is the greatest pure passer in the league. He is going thru what Tom had to endure for 9 seasons -> the expectation of carrying your team to the SB without the defensive personnel to do it. We see this over and over again with high-profile QBs who demand all the bells and whistles on offense meanwhile the defense gets gutted out due to a limited a salary cap. So many talented QBs only have 1 SB to their name despite playing 12+ seasons.

RealSNR 01-23-2017 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12705621)
it's not just Alex, it's Chiefs dropping balls, if you can't acknowledge that honestly, then lets not be in the business of analyzing the game.. Also, the entire game plan was different.. and i've said it a thousand times.. KC needs to emulate NE's game plan. Imagine Hill in the roll of Edelman.. good luck.

Better QBs don't rely on their receivers to be perfect. That's just ****ing asking for trouble.

If Alex made 2-3 more big plays per game, it becomes completely unnecessary to give a shit about dropped passes.

Also, EVERY QB DEALS WITH DROPPED PASSES.

PAChiefsGuy 01-24-2017 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 12705370)
Wait....now points allowed is the measuring stick of a good defense and not yards given up? That wasnt what you were arguing about OUR defense for the last 8 days.

They are both important but I think ppg is the most important stat when it comes to defense and offense.

Who cares if you are getting a lot of yds if you can't put pts on the board?

RippedmyFlesh 01-24-2017 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12706084)
Rodgers is the greatest pure passer in the league. He is going thru what Tom had to endure for 9 seasons -> the expectation of carrying your team to the SB without the defensive personnel to do it. We see this over and over again with high-profile QBs who demand all the bells and whistles on offense meanwhile the defense gets gutted out due to a limited a salary cap. So many talented QBs only have 1 SB to their name despite playing 12+ seasons.

What you don't get is teams with those qbs are legitimate super bowl contenders year after year. The chiefs haven't been since montana was qb. The marty years were close but no cigar. When did chief fans feel they had a legit shot to go all the way? When marty got joe. I want that feeling again as a chiefs fan and alex cant do that because he is slightly above average at best.

FloridaMan88 01-24-2017 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12706178)
Better QBs don't rely on their receivers to be perfect. That's just ****ing asking for trouble.

If Alex made 2-3 more big plays per game, it becomes completely unnecessary to give a shit about dropped passes.

Also, EVERY QB DEALS WITH DROPPED PASSES.

Agreed.

Dropped passes are more magnified when you only throw the ball downfield once a game as is the case with Bubble Screen Alex Smith.

Rasputin 01-24-2017 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12705707)
GB has wasted a bunch of Rodgers career so far.

Chiefs have wasted a ton of careers so I'm not so carrying as much about Rodgers career.


Four decades worth of careers wasted with no whiff of a Super Bowl Lombardi trophy.

Hell can't even win a very own Lamar Hunt trophy in 40 years.


Come on Clark don't you want to hoist your daddies trophy?

Dave Lane 01-24-2017 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek (Post 12704203)
with his super bowl record, it may be time to move on to another team

I say Alex to the packers and they give us Rodgers and our 2-2nds back. Seems fair.


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