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RunKC 01-16-2017 11:05 AM

Tamba returning for 1 more year
 
Per Terez Taylor

Yay?

Reerun_KC 01-16-2017 11:06 AM

:facepalm:

No, time to cut ties wth the elders and infuse some more youth into the franchise...

New World Order 01-16-2017 11:07 AM

No way

Did he even play a snap last night?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 11:08 AM

Well we knew this was coming with his dead cap for 2017 set at 8.9 mil

Hali is embarrassing himself staying around. He should have never signed that contract and we shouldn't have offered it to him in the first place but thanks to Ford's mediocre play in 2015, we were put in this ****ed up situation.

kcpasco 01-16-2017 11:08 AM

Send him to the glue factory. Thanks for being a Chief Tamba but it's over.

BlackHelicopters 01-16-2017 11:08 AM

This helps nothing. Thanks, Tamba. Now, get the hell out.

notorious 01-16-2017 11:10 AM

Don't care.

nychief 01-16-2017 11:12 AM

Only want him if he gets James Harrison's HGH guy.

Red Dawg 01-16-2017 11:13 AM

Big mistake.

notorious 01-16-2017 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 12691103)
Only want him if he gets James Harrison's HGH guy.

LMAO


So much truth to this.

Ken Bone 01-16-2017 11:14 AM

They should void his contract, give him a Timex watch and send him on his way.

carcosa 01-16-2017 11:14 AM

Why

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12691090)
Well we knew this was coming with his dead cap for 2017 set at 8.9 mil

Hali is embarrassing himself staying around. He should have never signed that contract and we shouldn't have offered it to him in the first place but thanks to Ford's mediocre play in 2015, we were put in this ****ed up situation.

Your hate for this defense is a complete joke. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hali took one for the team. He took a really, really team-friendly deal and I rarely ever say that (there's always fine print).

Hali has been an absolute steal given what he would have gotten in the open market and he's been worth every penny.

He still has a great role on this team as a depth OLB. We may be overpaying a bit but not much.

Black Bob 01-16-2017 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12691084)
:facepalm:

No, time to cut ties wth the elders and infuse some more youth into the franchise...



I agree, this window has closed. Time to move on from Tamba, DJ, and Charles. We need Tamba and DJ to retire so we can get the cap money to resign Berry and Poe. If we cut them we won't get nearly as much.

Those guys were great but it's time to move on.

KCUnited 01-16-2017 11:18 AM

With Houston converting to corner, we need all the pass rushers we can get.

notorious 01-16-2017 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 12691124)
With Houston converting to corner, we need all the pass rushers we can get.



LMAO

hawkchief 01-16-2017 11:19 AM

Maybe Buck Buchanan would like to come back too?

hitchief 01-16-2017 11:21 AM

Was a great Chief for years but way past his prime and that's a lot for a depth guy.

But then we are paying Houston a truck load of cash and he hasn't been a factor for 2 years now.

Why Not? 01-16-2017 11:21 AM

Wish we could transfer his heart and brains to our d line, TE, and coaching staff. Physically he is done.

srvy 01-16-2017 11:23 AM

He is going to make the Chiefs cut him. Come on Tampa don't go out embaracing yourself. Come back as a couch or something.

Reerun_KC 01-16-2017 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12691138)
Was a great Chief for years but way past his prime and that's a lot for a depth guy.

But then we are paying Houston a truck load of cash and he hasn't been a factor for 2 years now.

Same with Jamaal Charles.....

ThaVirus 01-16-2017 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 12691124)
With Houston converting to corner, we need all the pass rushers we can get.


First I've laughed since last night.

Thank you.

Reerun_KC 01-16-2017 11:24 AM

Time to cut the dead weight and restructure this team..

notorious 01-16-2017 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12691147)
He is going to make the Chiefs cut him. Come on Tampa don't go out embaracing yourself. Come back as a couch or something.

I want a fresh perspective, not the old loser way infesting the team.


Say what you want, but all of the players from the past have that failure stench.

srvy 01-16-2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12691123)
I agree, this window has closed. Time to move on from Tamba, DJ, and Charles. We need Tamba and DJ to retire so we can get the cap money to resign Berry and Poe. If we cut them we won't get nearly as much.

Those guys were great but it's time to move on.

The way pounce ate Poe's lunch completely pancaked him several times Poe needs to go his back has failed him.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitchief (Post 12691138)
Was a great Chief for years but way past his prime and that's a lot for a depth guy.

But then we are paying Houston a truck load of cash and he hasn't been a factor for 2 years now.

I disagree. He's a much bigger factor than Zombo. He's still a quality guy to have in the rotation and the first guy I want off the bench. The Chiefs have a lot of leverage because he costs nothing to cut. Restructure his contract and keep him. There was a point this year where we didn't have Ford or Houston. We should know by now that we need quality depth.

Iowanian 01-16-2017 11:28 AM

Tamba has been a great Chief, model citizen and has had a great career.

I've enjoyed watching him, but he's done. I don't see it helping the Chiefs at this point for him to stay around. I hope he enjoys his retirement and remains part of the organization in some capacity.

Black Bob 01-16-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12691160)
The way pounce ate Pope's lunch completely pancake Nguyen him several time Poe needs to go his back has failed him.

I disagree. Poe was fighting Pouncey AND Decastro most of the night. Those guys are both elite. Poe is way above average gen when he's hurt.

srvy 01-16-2017 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12691173)
I disagree. Poe was fighting Pouncey AND Decastro most of the night. Those guys are both elite. Poe is way above average gen when he's hurt.

What I saw was they doubled Smith and let Pouncey handle Poe which he did with ease.

rockymtnchief 01-16-2017 11:37 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...126816274.html

The Franchise 01-16-2017 11:42 AM

Take a pay cut then.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief (Post 12691198)

If he intends to play beyond 2017, then the solution is simpler. Turn his $8.5M deal into a 2-3 year contract. That is a fair market value for a depth rusher and it takes a big chunk off our cap.

KChiefs1 01-16-2017 12:01 PM

Retire please.


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chiefscafan 01-16-2017 12:09 PM

As a long time fan I appreciate what he has done for our franchise, but he's done. Not sure what we do bout this situation but I'm not sure I want him back.

mcaj22 01-16-2017 12:11 PM

prolly means the old guy window stays open for another season with Alex at the helm and all the vets trying one more time to repeat this scheme.

2018 is prob the year they blow it up and start anew, which I am excited for

Scorp 01-16-2017 12:16 PM

Tamba offers nothing, send him packing.

Shawny2X4 01-16-2017 12:17 PM

Can you believe that James Harrison is five years older than Hali?

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-16-2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12691158)
I want a fresh perspective, not the old loser way infesting the team.


Say what you want, but all of the players from the past have that failure stench.

Dude, we made a good run this year. If not for the Holding penalty that should never have been called we could be making plans for New England right now.

But yes his knees are shot. We need an upgrade at the position.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-16-2017 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorp (Post 12691293)
Tamba offers nothing, send him packing.

His dead cap # is the same as his cap hit. If you release him, you're literally cutting off your nose to spite your face.

notorious 01-16-2017 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12691327)
His dead cap # is the same as his cap hit. If you release him, you're literally cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Hali is going to make 9 mil next year no matter what?


Oh my. That is reeruned.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-16-2017 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12691332)
Hali is going to make 9 mil next year no matter what?


Oh my. That is reeruned.

Somebody said he signed a team friendly deal . ROFL

MMXcalibur 01-16-2017 12:32 PM

Noooo......thanks for the offer Tamba but nooooo....

KChiefs1 01-16-2017 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12691332)
Hali is going to make 9 mil next year no matter what?





Oh my. That is reeruned.



Houston & Hali stealing Clark's money.



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notorious 01-16-2017 12:33 PM

You can some good players for 9 mil.


This is mind-blowing.

RunKC 01-16-2017 12:36 PM

He was a pretty good backup player this year and I would love to have them back next year but he needs to take a pay cut in order for that to work out

stevieray 01-16-2017 12:36 PM

love the guy, but no way he is worth that coin.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-16-2017 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12691332)
Hali is going to make 9 mil next year no matter what?


Oh my. That is reeruned.

His cap hit is $8.5 million. His dead cap money is $8.9 million. If they designate him as a post-June 1 cut, they could spread $7.1 million out over two years, but that leaves them even deeper in the cap shitter for 2018. His 2017 salary, along with this year's, and his signing bonus, was fully guaranteed. They will cost themselves 400K by cutting him.

The Chiefs have been overpaying players for a few years now. The piper is coming, and his payment will be due soon.

They're in one of the least envious cap positions for 2017, but they can clear some money by releasing Charles and Nick Foles. They only save $1.2 million by releasing DJ. They could save $7 million by releasing Colquitt and Mauga, both of whom are vastly overpaid

scho63 01-16-2017 12:45 PM

Time to do the following no matter how much the heart feels:

-Cut Charles UNLESS much lower pay

-Hali gone

-Poe gone

-Knile Davis gone

-Resign Berry

-Kendall Reyes gone

-We need to either use Tyler Bray or cut him

-Not sure what DJ has left in the tank

-Phillip Gaines CUT

-Draft a QB

-Draft a ILB

Aspengc8 01-16-2017 12:50 PM

Given Ford's disappearing act vs non-garbage o-lines, I dont see how this is a bad thing. Houston still doesn't seem 100%, so the more rushers the better. Have him start working with Dadi now.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12691111)
Your hate for this defense is a complete joke. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hali took one for the team. He took a really, really team-friendly deal and I rarely ever say that (there's always fine print).

Hali has been an absolute steal given what he would have gotten in the open market and he's been worth every penny.

He still has a great role on this team as a depth OLB. We may be overpaying a bit but not much.

Hate for this defense? I'm on board with Peters, Sorensen, Mitchell, Nunez, Jones, Parker but clearly the older veteran players have simply not produced for what we are paying out to them. Houston and Hali have given us very little this year and will account for nearly 30 mil next season. Berry is streaky and nowhere on the consistency of a guy like Earl Thomas. His lack of awareness last night in coverage was embarrassing...
That 52 yard haul to Brown was his fault. Three points given up rather than a punt

Aspengc8 01-16-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12691394)
Hate for this defense? I'm on board with Peters, Sorensen, Mitchell, Nunez, Jones, Parker but clearly the older veteran players have simply not produced for what we are paying out to them. Houston and Hali have given us very little this year and will account for nearly 30 mil next season. Berry is streaky and nowhere on the consistency of a guy like Earl Thomas. His lack of awareness last night in coverage was embarrassing...
That 52 yard haul to Brown was his fault. Three points given up rather than a punt

Don't forget that fake WR screen where Berry let that no-name TE smoke him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-16-2017 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 12691382)
Time to do the following no matter how much the heart feels:

-Cut Charles UNLESS much lower pay Saves $7 M

-Hali gone Costs you $400 K

-Poe gone Cap depends on contract

-Knile Davis gone No cap effect

-Resign Berry Cap depends on contract

-Kendall Reyes gone Not under contract

-We need to either use Tyler Bray or cut him Saves 1.2 million

-Not sure what DJ has left in the tank Saves $1.2 million,

-Phillip Gaines CUT Saves $700K

-Draft a QB

-Draft a ILB

With all of that money you saved, you might be able to pay for Berry's cap hit after his extension. Now, you need to finagle the costs and expenses of those draft picks and the replacements for the above cut players.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12691414)
Don't forget that fake WR screen where Berry let that no-name TE smoke him.

Yes. He also jumped a route and let the same TE get a first down in the red zone. So bad.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 01:01 PM

Bring in Jamie Collins and let him get revenge on the Pats

Chiefnj2 01-16-2017 01:02 PM

Without Berry the Chiefs are a wild card team this year and you don't get to enjoy another home divisional loss.

RealSNR 01-16-2017 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12691389)
Given Ford's disappearing act vs non-garbage o-lines, I dont see how this is a bad thing. Houston still doesn't seem 100%, so the more rushers the better. Have him start working with Dadi now.


Dadi ain't gonna work for awhile. He got his shit ruined by injury earlier this year

kgrund 01-16-2017 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12691374)
His cap hit is $8.5 million. His dead cap money is $8.9 million. If they designate him as a post-June 1 cut, they could spread $7.1 million out over two years, but that leaves them even deeper in the cap shitter for 2018. His 2017 salary, along with this year's, and his signing bonus, was fully guaranteed. They will cost themselves 400K by cutting him.

The Chiefs have been overpaying players for a few years now. The piper is coming, and his payment will be due soon.

They're in one of the least envious cap positions for 2017, but they can clear some money by releasing Charles and Nick Foles. They only save $1.2 million by releasing DJ. They could save $7 million by releasing Colquitt and Mauga, both of whom are vastly overpaid

I don't think the 2018 cap situation looks that bad. I for one think we should make both DJ and TH post June 1 cuts. This would make the best out of a bad situation with those two.

Aspengc8 01-16-2017 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12691427)
Bring in Jamie Collins and let him get revenge on the Pats

I'd love to see him at mike. If DJ doesn't come back, not sure what they will look like inside.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-16-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 12691435)
I don't think the 2018 cap situation looks that bad. I for one think we should make both DJ and TH post June 1 cuts. This would make the best out of a bad situation with those two.

$76 million in cap hits to Smith, Houston, Maclin, Fisher, and Kelce. $60 million if you remove Smith and eat his cap number.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12691429)
Without Berry the Chiefs are a wild card team this year and you don't get to enjoy another home divisional loss.

You forget his poor pass coverage against the Houston Texans allowed fuller and Hopkins to gash us for over 100 each

His inability to protect the middle of the field on the last drive allowed Tennessee to move downfield and get a game winning FG

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 12691440)
I'd love to see him at mike. If DJ doesn't come back, not sure what they will look like inside.

He is definitely worth the gamble

ILChief 01-16-2017 01:23 PM

Retire. He contributed next to nothing and we need the cap room

jspchief 01-16-2017 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12691088)
No way

Did he even play a snap last night?

He fell short of the sack on the blitz where Ben hit a Houston covered Brown deep.

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 07:34 PM

Move him inside?

MahiMike 01-16-2017 07:41 PM

He be cak'n podna!

Pablo 01-16-2017 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12691147)
He is going to make the Chiefs cut him. Come on Tampa don't go out embaracing yourself. Come back as a couch or something.

I think we can all agree we'd like Tampa to come back as a couch.

rockymtnchief 01-16-2017 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 12692315)
I think we can all agree we'd like Tampa to come back as a couch.


I hope he meant "coach"?:D

Dave Lane 01-16-2017 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12691147)
He is going to make the Chiefs cut him. Come on Tampa don't go out embaracing yourself. Come back as a couch or something.

Don't drink and post it makes you seem really stupid. Oh wait...

ping2000 01-16-2017 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12691147)
He is going to make the Chiefs cut him. Come on Tampa don't go out embaracing yourself. Come back as a couch or something.

He's faster than a couch, but slower than a loveseat now.

eDave 01-16-2017 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 12692682)
He's faster than a couch, but slower than a loveseat now.

http://www.saltypeaks.com/wordpress/...cage-couch.jpg

NWTF 01-16-2017 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 12691502)
Retire. He contributed next to nothing and we need the cap room

This

Hammock Parties 01-17-2017 01:06 AM

All time Chief great. So sad that he never got a chance to win the big one, because few players played harder or cared more.

SMH

St. Patty's Fire 01-17-2017 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12692685)

i would buy this unironically

Baby Lee 01-17-2017 01:22 AM

I guess if Andy thinks the defensive squad needs a Wooderson.

Say Houston, got a sack?
Be a lot cooler if you did.

Rain Man 01-17-2017 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 12692315)
I think we can all agree we'd like Tampa to come back as a couch.

Maybe some day he could even buy the team and replace Clark as the chairman.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-17-2017 07:36 AM

What is this about playing 4 more years? This has to be a joke, right?
http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index...r_tamba_h.html

loochy 01-17-2017 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 12691110)
Why

This.

DJ's left nut 01-17-2017 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12691111)
Your hate for this defense is a complete joke. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Hali took one for the team. He took a really, really team-friendly deal and I rarely ever say that (there's always fine print).

Hali has been an absolute steal given what he would have gotten in the open market and he's been worth every penny.

He still has a great role on this team as a depth OLB. We may be overpaying a bit but not much.

Hali played 7 snaps in a home playoff game after having a week off.

Hali ****ing sucks now. I mean he's really bad. And he's only going to be worse next season.

Every dollar over the league minimum is an overpay because the guy's a glorified position coach at this point. This is the same kind of awful takes we got when Mike Vrabel came back.

Hali's absolutely shot. He has nothing left at all.

The Franchise 01-17-2017 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12692982)
Hali played 7 snaps in a home playoff game after having a week off.

Hali ****ing sucks now. I mean he's really bad. And he's only going to be worse next season.

Every dollar over the league minimum is an overpay because the guy's a glorified position coach at this point. This is the same kind of awful takes we got when Mike Vrabel came back.

Hali's absolutely shot. He has nothing left at all.

Yeah....unfortunately, unless he retires, we're ****ed because cutting him would royally **** our cap.

DaneMcCloud 01-17-2017 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12692986)
Yeah....unfortunately, unless he retires, we're ****ed because cutting him would royally **** our cap.

For the sake of conversation, let's take a look at this scenario.

If the Chiefs cut these following players Post June 1st, there's a Cap Savings of $25,950,000 dollars, nearly $26 million in savings:

$10,750,000 - Foles
$1,250,000 - Hali
$7,000,000 - Charles
$4,100,000 - Colquitt
$2,850,000 - Jah Reid


The Dead Money for Hali ($7,333,333), Colquitt ($800k) and Reid ($775k) comes to $8.908,333 million.

So the Chiefs would gain $17 million in cap space by cutting those players. With the estimated $4 million in available cap space, the Chiefs would have a minimum of $21 million to play with, which could include new deals for Berry and Poe, as well as deals for Foles and possibly Charles (league minimum).

Also, Anthony Sherman, IMO, should be the target of a renegotiation/extension. I like Sherman but paying him $2.3 million dollars to have less than 10 offensive snaps a game is a waste of valuable resources.


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