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lewdog 12-18-2016 03:59 PM

This loss is on the defense...........
 
How can we expect to win a game when they don't score?!?!

carcosa 12-18-2016 04:00 PM

Lol

Deberg_1990 12-18-2016 04:00 PM

Well, there wasnt much of a pass rush today. Where were Ford and Houston??

notorious 12-18-2016 04:01 PM

Oh Lew, you silly goose.

Jerm 12-18-2016 04:02 PM

They only got 3 TOs....why not 6????

TribalElder 12-18-2016 04:03 PM

It's 1 degree

Kicker is already frozen

MMXcalibur 12-18-2016 04:04 PM

Special teams are on notice too!

lewdog 12-18-2016 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 12626997)
They only got 3 TOs....why not 6????

They didn't score on any of those TOs!

Poor effort!

ThaVirus 12-18-2016 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12626987)
Well, there wasnt much of a pass rush today. Where were Ford and Houston??

The Titans were GASHING us on the ground. You can't expect your edge rushers to get upfield when they're churning out 6-7 yard runs all day long.

The Titans also have great tackles.

bobbything 12-18-2016 04:05 PM

True. This defense gave up 19 whole points, caused three turnovers, and gave the offense solid field position all game. This loss is clearly on that side of the ball.

PunkinDrublic 12-18-2016 04:06 PM

Well the refs bailed Tennessee out on that TD drive with a bogus PI call.

HemiEd 12-18-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12627019)
The Titans were GASHING us on the ground. You can't expect your edge rushers to get upfield when they're churning out 6-7 yard runs all day long.

The Titans also have great tackles.

This, their line really did play well.

Chiefshrink 12-18-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12626987)
Well, there wasnt much of a pass rush today. Where were Ford and Houston??

There is a big reason why the Titans are tops in the running game and would be better in the passing game IF they had better receivers. Their o-line is stellar. After Ford got held on the first possession you saw no more pass rush the rest of the game.

dj56dt58 12-18-2016 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12627018)
They didn't score on any of those TOs!

Poor effort!

Sorenson was rather lazy on that return.

Also Tyreek only scored 1 touchdown..rushing. He's supposed to score at least twice in 2 different ways

jjchieffan 12-18-2016 04:09 PM

Our defense was disappointing today. The injuries have just been too much. They can't stop the run. They never put Marriotta on his back all day. And they gave up the play in the end that setup the field goal kick. So they were definitely partially liable for the loss. But Andy Reid killed any chance of winning today. His worst game of the season by far.

InChiefsHeaven 12-18-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12626987)
Well, there wasnt much of a pass rush today. Where were Ford and Houston??

Um...3 turnovers, we turned into 10 points...inside the 10 twice, come away with nothing. You are correct, not much pass rush, but it shouldn't have mattered.

Easy 6 12-18-2016 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12626987)
Well, there wasnt much of a pass rush today. Where were Ford and Houston??

Cant count on a sackfest every damn game, I hope you're joking here...

AussieChiefsFan 12-18-2016 04:14 PM

Lol

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Prison Bitch 12-18-2016 04:39 PM

Gave up 3 straight scoring drives - at home - to lose. They suck balls.

tecumseh 12-18-2016 04:44 PM

Well they blew the last drive and that's what lost the game.

Psyko Tek 12-18-2016 04:47 PM

amazing how sarcasm , can go to real blame here

MAKE THE CHIEFS GREAT AGAIN

Easy 6 12-18-2016 04:49 PM

Blaming the defense for this... :facepalm:

ThaVirus 12-18-2016 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12627220)
Blaming the defense for this... :facepalm:

OP was making a joke.

Prison Bitch 12-18-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tecumseh (Post 12627199)
Well they blew the last drive and that's what lost the game.

Blew the last 3


Just make 1 stop and you win. But they failed almost comically

Valiant 12-18-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic (Post 12627029)
Well the refs bailed Tennessee out on that TD drive with a bogus PI call.

How was it bogus? He has his arm fully extended and never looked back. Every ref will call that. He got beat.

New World Order 12-18-2016 05:19 PM

Amen Lew

KChiefs1 12-18-2016 05:19 PM

No pass rush, Tennessee running 5yds a pop, guys wide open in the secondary.


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TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-18-2016 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12627240)
Blew the last 3


Just make 1 stop and you win. But they failed almost comically

Literally in prevent and we gave up two big gains in the middle. How? When you have two premier pass rushers and two excellent interior DL.

1 minute of football and they got over 40 yards

The Franchise 12-18-2016 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12627320)
Literally in prevent and we gave up two big gains in the middle. How? When you have two premier pass rushers and two excellent interior DL.

1 minute of football and they got over 40 yards

Smith ****ing sucks.

Easy 6 12-18-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12627234)
OP was making a joke.

You're absolutely right, my mistake was not noting the difference between the op and several others who are actually serious about blaming the D

I honestly figured Lew was kidding, just forgot to point that out amid all of the others being serious about it

KChiefs1 12-18-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12627320)
When you have two premier pass rushers and two excellent interior DL.



The Chiefs have neither





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Pasta Little Brioni 12-18-2016 07:07 PM

FG TD FG down the stretch . **** the whole team. The lasr drive was sickening.

Squalor2 12-18-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12626984)
How can we expect to win a game when they don't score?!?!


lewdog is the best.

Coochie liquor 12-19-2016 09:15 AM

Total team loss, but leaning heavily to the offense and coaching. D had some great moments, and some horrific ones. Pretty typical game except no defensive or ST points. How many times had this team got a turnover deep in enemy territory and not gotten any points? It's flabbergasting!

FloridaMan88 12-19-2016 09:17 AM

The defense's inability to generate a pass rush and allowing Tennessee to waltz down the field for the game winning FG was a factor, but overall they did enough to put the Chiefs in a position to win yesterday by forcing three turnovers and making enough stops during the first three quarters of the game.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-19-2016 09:26 AM

And how in the hell did we give up that pass on the flea flicker? That was ours for the taking.

Prison Bitch 12-19-2016 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12628650)
The defense's inability to generate a pass rush and allowing Tennessee to waltz down the field for the game winning FG was a factor, but overall they did enough to put the Chiefs in a position to win yesterday by forcing three turnovers and making enough stops during the first three quarters of the game.

I don't follow that at all. It doesn't really matter when they gave up the points, they gave them up. 19 allowed at home is a fairly high number, esp on a frigid day like that. The NFL avg is 22, and that includes dome teams, warm weather games, etc etc.


In a game between two fairly pedestrian offenses, in frozen weather, we gave up 19 points at home. Going into yesterday do you think 19 allowed would've won? I'd have said doubtful. Maybe 50-50. They weren't good at all yesterday.

FloridaMan88 12-19-2016 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12628724)
I don't follow that at all. It doesn't really matter when they gave up the points, they gave them up. 19 allowed at home is a fairly high number, esp on a frigid day like that. The NFL avg is 22, and that includes dome teams, warm weather games, etc etc.


In a game between two fairly pedestrian offenses, in frozen weather, we gave up 19 points at home. Going into yesterday do you think 19 allowed would've won? I'd have said doubtful. Maybe 50-50. They weren't good at all yesterday.

Giving up 19 points in today's NFL is not bad... that means the Chiefs held Tennessee below their season average game of about 24 points per game.

The cold weather itself doesn't necessarily hinder scoring... see the Chicago-Green Bay game yesterday in similar cold conditions that had a 30-27 final score.

The Franchise 12-19-2016 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12628724)
I don't follow that at all. It doesn't really matter when they gave up the points, they gave them up. 19 allowed at home is a fairly high number, esp on a frigid day like that. The NFL avg is 22, and that includes dome teams, warm weather games, etc etc.


In a game between two fairly pedestrian offenses, in frozen weather, we gave up 19 points at home. Going into yesterday do you think 19 allowed would've won? I'd have said doubtful. Maybe 50-50. They weren't good at all yesterday.

Pedestrian offenses? Really? You're talking about the #1 redzone offense in the NFL. One of the top rushing offenses in the NFL....and outside of that Denver game last week....one of the NFL's QBs on a major hot streak.

Prison Bitch 12-19-2016 10:42 AM

I don't think that's true at all. Yesterday was our 2nd coldest windchill game ever. What does the data say about extreme weather?

Quote:

In 105 games featuring “Extreme Freeze or Snow” (temperature <=15 degrees OR heavy snow OR wind chill <= (-10) degrees) since 1941, scoring decreased by 2.8 ppg and passing yards decreased by 18.7 ypg.

Maybe it's not enough to drive TENN all the way down to 7 points or some low number like that but it's absolutely a negating factor. Look at the kickoffs,how hard it was to kick. It's amazing he nailed that 53-yarder really.

MahiMike 12-19-2016 11:44 AM

If Eric berry intercepts that duck of a throw, it's 17-0 instead of 14-7.

Titty Meat 12-19-2016 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12627048)
Our defense was disappointing today.

Idiot.

Prison Bitch 12-19-2016 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12628942)
If Eric berry intercepts that duck of a throw, it's 17-0 instead of 14-7.

Likewise, if we don't force that fumble as the WR is going into the end zone, and then recover it and then return it to their 40, it's 7-7.

ptlyon 12-19-2016 11:52 AM

And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

Prison Bitch 12-19-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12628960)
And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

If my QB had balls he wouldn't go scoreless in the 2nd half two straight home games.

ptlyon 12-19-2016 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12628967)
If my QB had balls he wouldn't go scoreless in the 2nd half two straight home games.

And if you're here and I'm here Mr. Hand, doesn't that make it OUR QB?

Prison Bitch 12-19-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12629056)
And if you're here and I'm here Mr. Hand, doesn't that make it OUR QB?

You're absolutely right, Mr. Ptylon. He is our QB. Yours, mine and everyone else's in this forum.

Dayze 12-19-2016 12:49 PM

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ptlyon 12-19-2016 12:50 PM

Pizza sounds good right now

carcosa 12-19-2016 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12627048)
Our defense was disappointing today.

lol

CoMoChief 12-19-2016 01:17 PM

Not giving Hill or Kelce the ball is just inexcusable

Freezing the kick is stupid all together especially after considering the already piss poor weather/field conditions. Now kickers will just kick it anyways after the whistle and it gives them an extra practice kick. In this case it worked out for Succop and make Reid look like a fool.

Chiefs can't run the ball for shit. It's that simple. They haven't for some time now. Today there were multiple times they had to get a yard or 2 and couldn't. And it costed them the game.

Chiefs couldn't stop the run. But the held at times when they had to. When you're at home and hold opposing defense to under 20...you should win that game. Except we have a non running Alex Smith...which means he's gonna always come up short in the passing game and his legs no longer account for the difference, and it leads to many stalled drivers. Cpt Checkdown....King of the 3nOut.

Alex Smith....smh

Andy Reid .....smh

These ****ing 2 are like Beavis and Butthead on gameday.

Dayze 12-19-2016 01:49 PM

yeah, but Beavis and Butt-head were actually trying to score.

CoMoChief 12-19-2016 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 12629160)
yeah, but Beavis and Butt-head were actually trying to score.

But did they ever score?

Fish 12-19-2016 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 12629160)
yeah, but Beavis and Butt-head were actually trying to score.

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NJChiefsFan 12-19-2016 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 12628942)
If Eric berry intercepts that duck of a throw, it's 17-0 instead of 14-7.

He didn't even need to pick it. Just knock it down.

KChiefs1 12-19-2016 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12628819)
It's amazing he nailed that 53-yarder really.


I'm still shocked because it was a 1/10 shot IMHO.



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KChiefs1 12-19-2016 11:49 PM

Defense was pathetic on Tennessee's last drive.

How do you leave a WR this open?

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TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-20-2016 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12630269)
Defense was pathetic on Tennessee's last drive.

How do you leave a WR this open?

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Why was Berry 20 yards deeper than this throw? A FG wins the game. Shouldn't we be protecting ...ya know...the middle of the field!?

Dunerdr 12-20-2016 01:30 PM

Lewdog went full tiger uppercut

TigeRRUppeRRcut 12-20-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 12630792)
Lewdog went full tiger uppercut

In his defense (ha!) , he was being sarcastic.

I'm still playing the narrative that more than just the QB deserves the blame.

lewdog 12-20-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12631265)
In his defense (ha!) , he was being sarcastic.

I'm still playing the narrative that more than just the QB deserves the blame.

Yes, Alex Smith and Andy Reid.


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