How good could Chris Jones be as a rookie?
 

In case you missed it, Chris Jones was beasting again yesterday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones has remarkable explosion off the line for a guy his size. Just destroys this run. <a href="https://t.co/9q0IwcoU58">pic.twitter.com/9q0IwcoU58</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/769711318601388032">August 28, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jones first off ball and wins on initial contact. Pressure forces incompletion <a href="https://t.co/KgvktQQP4N">pic.twitter.com/KgvktQQP4N</a></p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/769617579623284737">August 27, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones looking like Shaq <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan">@RealMNchiefsfan</a> <a href="https://t.co/1pA0u4It34">pic.twitter.com/1pA0u4It34</a></p>&mdash; Clay Wendler (@ClayWendler) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClayWendler/status/769597542799519744">August 27, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PFF seems to agree. He was our highest rated player overall for the preseason going into the game yesterday.
Rookie DE Chris Jones looking like a second-round steal

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It's pretty clear that Chris Jones can and will beat weaker/slower OL this year. He's proven that though 3 preseason games.

What are your thoughts on this kid? Could he provide more than his replacement, Mike DeVito, this year?
DeVito had 19 tackles, 3 stuffs and 3 sacks.

Vito was a poor man's justin smith very underappreciated by the Chiefs Kingdom. Jones looks like a stud but let's play some regular season games first before we get too hyped.

He's going to be bad ass! Great pick Dorsey!

DeVito was just a JAG, who was solid as a run defender with little to no pass rush presence.

Jones combination of speed, quicks and power is going to translate to the regular season.

He's winning the battle in the trenches against starters in the preseason.

Pre season.

Starters.

Hoping for 5 sacks and 5-ish TFLs.

DeVito had his best pass rushing season last year. He was no slouch.
You look at weak/slow or just young OL and they can't keep up with Jones. Probably bc he's so strong but so quick as well. Jones was killing Ehinger in camp when I went to watch.

Can't wait to get Houston back. Jones,Howard, Poe and Houston together will be badass.

I look forward to pressure up the middle. Makes the job easier for the edge rushers. The guy looks like a monster out there so far. Hopefully he can do meaningful things in the regular season.

Hopefully he will be our "Aaron Donald" type of player that just absolutely dominates "everyone" and cannot be stopped. I'm not comparing their body sizes here because they are totally different stature wise but they are definitely twin brothers when it comes to playing the position with a "passionate nastiness" and dominating on almost every snap and will be literally shocked IF he is NOT starting by mid-season because he is that good.:thumb:

Yeah, hopefully he can help offset the defense missing Houston early on. Someone needs to step up. It sure doesn't appear as though it will be Ford. But if Ford can just be adequate, and Jones can continue to perform like he has been in the preseason, this defense will be okay while waiting for Houston to return

He's gonna be the Marcus Peters of the DL.

DROTY with 8 or 9 sacks.

BC beat me to it, if what we've witnessed so far doesnt just disappear in the regular season... KC could easily have consecutive DROTY

He doesnt just win his matchups, he embarrasses them

Man I hope that Houston comes back soon and that he is his dominant self as well. Rush Houston on one side, Poe pushing up the middle, and Hali and Jones on the other side. You can't stop that. Pockets will crumble and quarterbacks will go down. I'm excited!

Aaron Donald good.


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Lol...no.

He's not even a starter and he has three solid players playing in front of him.

And he has been as disruptive as any two of them combined

If he's the real deal... Imagine what happens when Houston returns. I mean, who do you double team when you've got Poe, Bailey, Houston, and Jones coming at you? Tamba could be the surprise benefactor from all the attention the other guys get..

He's our best interior pass rusher already, and he will be getting a lot of snaps. I wouldn't be shocked if he took a starting job at some point this season. He's just too good.

Quite frankly he has outplayed those 3 in front of him and why he should be starting at the very least by mid-season.

BINGO !!

If the coaching staff wants to buffer or offset to some degree the Dee Ford embarrassment during the Houston injury the CJ starting sooner than later will definitely do that.:clap:

"He displayed the strength and quickness combination..."

This.

Jones is so quick off the line that, combined with his strength, his swim move wins a lot. The offensive linemen just can't get their hands on him fast enough, can't set their feet fast enough, and by that time the power Jones has exhibited just overwhelms them.

Really looking forward to seeing what this guy can do.

Will he play Dontari Poe's position and/or as an end?

IMO (and I've said this for 3 years now) they should move Poe to end full time and now would be even more perfect. Start Jones at nose and rotate Howard at all 3 line spots to keep everyone fresh.

That would be a straight up beast mode DL.

I wonder if we will see more 4-3 alignment this year? With the addition and emergence of Jones, we have a very good front 4. Poe-Howard-Jones-Bailey in front of Ford-DJ-Hali would be formidable line. Poe and Ford Rushing the strong side, Howard clogging up things in the middle to free up Jones, then Bailey occupying the right while Hali comes crashing in. That alignment would generate plenty of pass rush and leave DJ free to roam sideline to sideline making plays.

Nah, keep Poe at NG. He doesn't have the length to consistently deal with the long-armed tackles of the league.

Jones should definitely be the main interior pass rusher in nickel and dime packages.

Honestly I don't want him playing every snap. I hope he averaged about 60-70% of the snaps. You want a guy like Jones to stay fresh so he can be more consistently disruptive.

I'll drop this here:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/...n-the-2016-nfl

Article that came out during draft time. I drafted him in the CP mock. I like the player, just that he wasn't very productive at Mississippi State.

No doubt the guy plays balls out ! It's been documented.

There were some plays where I thought he was offsides until they replayed it and it was just a great jump.
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The knock on him is that he took plays off. But he's in the NFL now
He knows he can't do that and it's been proven

What's the advantage of moving Poe to end and starting Jones at nose? Jones is built more like an end than Poe and is more athletic. Poe's low center of gravity makes him hard to move off his spot at nose tackle. If you want to start Jones, start him at DE and rotate Howard at all 3 line spots.

i agree.

now correct me if i am wrong, but dont we want this kid to be the best, given poes potential contract issues?

Watching professional football for 30+ years....you dont walk on to a team with a stacked d-line and "shine". He is a future star...and I've only said that about 2 rookies. Charles and Peters....dude is going to be great.

He needs to be a starter from day one.

IMO Poe should be used similarly to how Ngata was for Baltimore and I think he would be great in that role. I also believe that Jones best role is rushing in the a gaps.

These Chief Warriors are good real good

Dagnabit: They're the best

Devito was a nice player and exactly the kind of guy you want to fill out your roster. But Jones might be a star.

Jones going up against the Center would be very interesting considering how fast he gets off the snap. We also saw how well he can bat down passes against Chicago. That could be very disruptive having a big fast guy getting a good jump on the ball and be a force in the backfield. Jones also made a nice tackle for a loss on the RB-his guy did not even get into the stance to block him before Jones was by him and making the hit. Speed Kills.

I think Poe stays -but it does give Sutton a lot of options.

But can Jones take on double teams repeatedly?

Jones isn't gonna be Aaron Donald and get 9 sacks this year. I've read some Twitter folks comparing him to Fletcher Cox, which would be ideal.

5.5 sacks sounds reasonable. I see around 600 snaps for the kid this year.

I bet he doesn't see a single double team all year playing next to Howard and/or Poe.

I was asking that for Boss who wanted to move him to NT and Poe to DE.

He's been very disruptive shooting the a and b gaps this preseason and was a DT in college. He has a huge frame and a lot of natural strength. I know it didn't look great in PS, but this DL is going to be downright nasty.

I think he can

He has certainly shown the ability to split them.

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Start him.

Dorsey went into the draft with late picks in each round and no third rounder. Pretty solid work.

Hill and Jones alone make this a successful draft.

The other guys are pretty good too.

As nasty as the Rams D line ?

He'll be better as a rookie than Dee Ford will ever be, period.

Dee Ford will be better than you'll ever be, period.

Cool it, dude.

Just think how many holding calls he's going to generate !!!!!!

Also right here look at what Poe does to his man.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-them-so-far/

The Post is praising Chris Jones...
I feel that he could single handedly put us over the top into becoming the top NFL defense if he can shore up our mediocre run defense. Teams have been double teaming Poe for years, now they are going to have to play honest.

With Houston back our pass defense should be one of the best for a 3rd year in a row.

Defense wins championships!!

He's going to make our nickle package amazing.

I think the Chargers and their worst O-line in football last year-are going to have their hands full with Mr. Jones.

Hopefully. The only hope for preventing this game from being a shootout is if our DL rises up to the challenge and makes up for the lack of outside rushers.

AliceSmiff ball sucker, which team are you pretending to support today?

I am not worried about the pass rush. I think we will generate a lot of pressure up front, throw in a few blitzes and control the clock.

Only played 12 snaps Sunday.

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First I think it would be amistake putting him at NT .Poe got perfect build for a NT .Jones should take Howard or baileys spot and start now.Hes out played both so far.

Based on how the 1st half went he should have played more. He couldn't have done worse...

Hell, he'd have been a better choice than DJ in the first half at LB.

Chris Jones almost had a sack on Sunday. He walked DJ Fluker back into the QB. Dee Ford also got a pressure on Rivers there. He almost got him too.

https://twitter.com/realmnchiefsfan/...55507515908097

Someone else can embed this. I'm on my phone

Nice under move by Dee there.

Mentioned this earlier... The double teams can't apply to both Poe and Jones. Pick your poison, we'll run you guys over one way or the other.

Our dline was destroyed until Tamba started playing.

What a huge difference that guy makes.

If/when Houston returns, the defense is going to be downright nasty.

I'm not saying Jones is overrated or even played bad but one thing is apparent. This board overrates the **** out of pre season.

What are you talking about? Jones didn't play many snaps, but he was still clearly he best interior pass rusher we have, just like how it looked in he preseason.

March struggled, just like he did in the preseason.

Nelson looked solid, but unspectacular, just like he did in the preseason.

Our DL was disappointing, just like it was in the preseason.

Tamba wasn't in on this one. Jones next to Zombo at right end. He almost got a sack there.

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2 pressures in 12 snaps from what I saw. Imagine if he plays 60 snaps.

That should've been a penalty for holding.

Many thought Dadi Nicohals would be an impact player. That's just 1 example.

I'm not sure if March will be anything than just a JAG I hope i'm wrong. If Mauga doesn't get hurt March is on the bench where he should be.

Nelson is Chris Owens. He's nothing special i'd be interested to see what teams completion % are against him. DJ White should be the #2 slide Gaines to the slot.

Lastly the D-line looked like shit the first half. They came up big the 2nd half along with Ford and Hali.

When did anyone say that Dadi would be an impact player?

Didn't know where else to put this, but the Chiefs just cleared 6 mil of cap space by reworking Houstons deal. We're around $11 mil in cap space now, is this for Berry or Poe? Or maybe a new acquisition?

Jones got in on 25% of defensive snaps. Anyone got the film to review ?

We lost . Jones is a bust .

berry maybe, not poe. if we want the chiefs to continually get to the playoffs, we cannot afford to pay poe (aside from injury, or a really bad year)

Really? I was not happy when the Chiefs drafted him. Was one of my favorite DL's in the draft.

I, for one, welcome our new overlord of the D LINE, our liege, Chris Jones.


It's early, but this last draft is looking rosy for the future at this point in spite of the tampon party that ensued around here when Dorsey traded back & out of the 1st round.