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Quesadilla Joe 07-30-2016 12:11 PM

Eric Fisher signs 4 year, $63M extension
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Eric Fisher&#39;s 4-year extension is worth $48 million, including $40 million gtd. The six years he now has left on deal total $63 million.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/759457740209070080">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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O.city 07-30-2016 12:12 PM

Damn.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-30-2016 12:12 PM

Do you just search for Chiefs news all day?

Sure-Oz 07-30-2016 12:12 PM

What

Quesadilla Joe 07-30-2016 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12342720)
Do you just search for Chiefs news all day?

Do you even twitter, bro?

Dave Lane 07-30-2016 12:13 PM

Jfc $15 mill a year for that turd?

Red Dawg 07-30-2016 12:13 PM

Damn out of nowhere. Boom! It had to be done so good on Dorsey.

O.city 07-30-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342725)
Jfc $15 mill a year for that turd?

15? How you figure?

MMXcalibur 07-30-2016 12:15 PM

Can he play defense?

Dinny Bossa Nova 07-30-2016 12:15 PM

We coulda had Geno. He woulda been a lot cheaper to re-sign.

Dinny

Pasta Little Brioni 07-30-2016 12:15 PM

After he continues to progress this year, it will be a damn smart move

Dave Lane 07-30-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342728)
15? How you figure?

63 / 4 = 15.75

Red Dawg 07-30-2016 12:16 PM

That puts at the two spot in guranteed dollars for an LT.

The Franchise 07-30-2016 12:16 PM

Dude better perform like a top 5 LT this year or this is a horrible deal.

O.city 07-30-2016 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342733)
63 / 4 = 15.75

40 mil guaranteed.

Dave Lane 07-30-2016 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342736)
40 mil guaranteed.

63 / 4 = $15.75 million per.

Buehler445 07-30-2016 12:18 PM

Chose Fisher over Berry huh?

O.city 07-30-2016 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342737)
63 / 4 = $15.75 million per.

The 63 isn't guaranteed. Only 40 of it is. Have to wait and see the signing bonus, breakdown etc.

Dave Lane 07-30-2016 12:19 PM

I'd have rather seen that money go to locking up Berry.

Buehler445 07-30-2016 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342736)
40 mil guaranteed.

If all he gets is guaranteed money it was an even shittier deal.

Sassy Squatch 07-30-2016 12:20 PM

Why?

Dave Lane 07-30-2016 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342739)
The 63 isn't guaranteed. Only 40 of it is. Have to wait and see the signing bonus, breakdown etc.

So you suspect he will just pass on the extra money. Or that it's all paid in the last week of the contract. Ok then.

Red Dawg 07-30-2016 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342741)
I'd have rather seen that money go to locking up Berry.

Hell no. LT way more important and Fish has youth and is an ascending player. For the first time in years we have two very solid tackles on either end.

Dave Lane 07-30-2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12342742)
If all he gets is guaranteed money it was an even shittier deal.

At almost 16 million it's in what the **** territory.

New World Order 07-30-2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342725)
Jfc $15 mill a year for that turd?


This

Meatloaf 07-30-2016 12:22 PM

I really like this extension. OL settled down last year with Fish at LT. I think his best football is ahead of him. Gotta have an anchor at LT. Kudos to Dorsey.

Dave Lane 07-30-2016 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12342747)
Hell no. LT way more important and Fish has youth and is an ascending player. For the first time in years we have two very solid tackles on either end.

Well when you have a QB that holds the ball for way too long and is timid, I guess you have to overpay for a LT to prop him up.

bevischief 07-30-2016 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12342735)
Dude better perform like a top 5 LT this year or this is a horrible deal.

Agreed.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:25 PM

Awesome!

Red Dawg 07-30-2016 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342751)
Well when you have a QB that holds the ball for way too long and is timid, I guess you have to overpay for a LT to prop him up.

It's like this. LT is like QB these days. If you have a decent one you almost have to over pay or someone else will. Players sometimes get deals based on what they will become in the future not just what they have done and are being rewarded. This is for what they believe he will become.

RealSNR 07-30-2016 12:28 PM

Am I reading this correctly? Please tell me I ****ed up and this is old information.

Eric Fisher gets paid the highest AAV of any LT by 2.5 mill once this part of the extension kicks in?

http://overthecap.com/position/left-tackle/

O.city 07-30-2016 12:30 PM

Rand Getlin has the breakdown on twitter, for some reason I can't get it to post here.

Hoover 07-30-2016 12:31 PM

Smart deal. We can't sign Berry to a long term deal now, and frankly, it's smart not to sink outlandish money into the Saftey position IMO.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:31 PM

#KCChiefs give OL Eric Fisher $48M in new $$ on his 4-year extension, tacked on to 2 years he has left. Tied with Cordy Glenn & Tyron Smith

DanBecky 07-30-2016 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342762)
Rand Getlin has the breakdown on twitter, for some reason I can't get it to post here.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m told Eric Fisher’s extension is a four-year, $48M deal. Includes $22M at signing. $28.5M by March of 2017. $12M new money average.</p>&mdash; Rand Getlin (@Rand_Getlin) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rand_Getlin/status/759455657120497668">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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O.city 07-30-2016 12:32 PM

So, he got 22 million dollars today, if i'm reading that right. Thats not a bad day.

RealSNR 07-30-2016 12:32 PM

Yeeeeahh, I'm gonna go with Schefter on this one. No offense, Rand, but you're a ****ing nobody.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m told Eric Fisher’s extension is a four-year, $48M deal. Includes $22M at signing. $28.5M by March of 2017. $12M new money average.</p>&mdash; Rand Getlin (@Rand_Getlin) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rand_Getlin/status/759455657120497668">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Chiefshrink 07-30-2016 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342741)
I'd have rather seen that money go to locking up Berry.

No way. We have talent that is waiting to bloom. The best part of not signing Berry longterm he has no choice but to take his game to the next level of which all of us thought we were getting when we drafted him but have only seen minimal at best flashes of this. He is now on display for sale for all 31 other NFL teams and it is in his best interest to win a SB this year soooooo he can get his big $$ elsewhere and not mess with our cap for the future.

A win-win for both parties, LITERALLY !!:D

pugsnotdrugs19 07-30-2016 12:33 PM

Called this yesterday in the Training Camp thread...

Expensive but this opens up our options going forward. Likely lowers cap hit next year. Ascending player. It's an invaluable position.

RealSNR 07-30-2016 12:33 PM

Ah, so Schefter is including the salary from his rookie deal on top of the extension. So really it's 6 years at that amount of money.

Chiefshrink 07-30-2016 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12342764)
Smart deal. We can't sign Berry to a long term deal now, and frankly, it's smart not to sink outlandish money into the Saftey position IMO.

You are a wise man:thumb:

O.city 07-30-2016 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12342769)
Yeeeeahh, I'm gonna go with Schefter on this one. No offense, Rand, but you're a ****ing nobody.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m told Eric Fisher’s extension is a four-year, $48M deal. Includes $22M at signing. $28.5M by March of 2017. $12M new money average.</p>&mdash; Rand Getlin (@Rand_Getlin) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rand_Getlin/status/759455657120497668">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Terez reporting the same thing.

O.city 07-30-2016 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12342772)
Ah, so Schefter is including the salary from his rookie deal on top of the extension. So really it's 6 years at that amount of money.

Thats how I'm reading it.

So it's more 48 million, plus what he's already locked in for?

Simply Red 07-30-2016 12:35 PM

So long as Zombo is locked in, otherwise NOT COOL!

RealSNR 07-30-2016 12:35 PM

Okay, so now sportrac has the 15.75 mill/year thing as correct.

What is it? 4/48 or 4/63?

O.city 07-30-2016 12:36 PM

Terez saying 12 mil per year.

O.city 07-30-2016 12:37 PM

Thats probably not gonna make Berry real excited.

Bowser 07-30-2016 12:38 PM

After all the Berry and Poe talk, this...

http://31.media.tumblr.com/3fc81aab8...979jo1_400.gif


Welp, looks like it's Poe's turn to wear the franchise tag next year.

RealSNR 07-30-2016 12:39 PM

I view this as the team working hard with Berry, and negotiations fell through.

Now they're saying, "Okay, Eric. We'll let you hold out on the tag. In the meantime, look what we just did for Eric Fisher..."

pugsnotdrugs19 07-30-2016 12:39 PM

This deal is much better now at that 48 mill. Schefter corrected himself.

ThaVirus 07-30-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12342772)
Ah, so Schefter is including the salary from his rookie deal on top of the extension. So really it's 6 years at that amount of money.


Thank goodness if true.

I can deal with $12m a year in new money or $10m average over the life of the contract.

Bowser 07-30-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342780)
Thats probably not gonna make Berry real excited.

Love Berry, but he had his chance.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12342741)
I'd have rather seen that money go to locking up Berry.

Good grief.

You'd rather pay a non-premium player $12 million a year over a premium position, a guy that has to go against the best pass rushers in any division?

Berry may be a great safety but a great safety will never have as much impact as an even average left tackle.

pugsnotdrugs19 07-30-2016 12:40 PM

Also I would bet that this lowers his cap hit a decent amount next year. Actually may help with the Berry situation.

TomBarndtsTwin 07-30-2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342780)
Thats probably not gonna make Berry real excited.

Fishers position on the field is more valuable than Berrys.


Sorry, EB, it is what it is . . . . .

(I guess he shouldn't have asked for so much damn money)

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342780)
Thats probably not gonna make Berry real excited.

**** him

O.city 07-30-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342789)
Good grief.

You'd rather pay a non-premium player $12 million a year over a premium position, a guy that has to go against the best pass rushers in any division?

Berry may be a great safety but a great safety will never have as much impact as an even average left tackle.

I don't know about that. Maybe a good LT vs a great safety. But an average LT still gets you in trouble more than you'd like.

Unless the safety starts taking the ball away from the offense more, hard to say great.

Sassy Squatch 07-30-2016 12:42 PM

Makes it a lot more palatable.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12342786)
Thank goodness if true.

I can deal with $12m a year in new money or $10m average over the life of the contract.

So he's getting slightly more than Lane Johnson, who's a right tackle.

Sounds like a fair deal to me.

The Chiefs offensive line looks to be locked up for the next 3 years at minimum.

ThaVirus 07-30-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342789)
Berry may be a great safety but a great safety will never have as much impact as an even average left tackle.


Nitpicking but give me Ed Reed over Eric Fisher all day every day

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342797)
I don't know about that. Maybe a good LT vs a great safety. But an average LT still gets you in trouble more than you'd like.

Unless the safety starts taking the ball away from the offense more, hard to say great.

Well, everyone knows my stance on Berry.

If I'm shelling out $12 million, it's not going to a safety.

O.city 07-30-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342793)
**** him

It's a business in the end. Still hate to see the stuff like this happen.

ThaVirus 07-30-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342799)
So he's getting slightly more than Lane Johnson, who's a right tackle.



Sounds like a fair deal to me.



The Chiefs offensive line looks to be locked up for the next 3 years at minimum.


Seems a good deal on the surface. It had to get done and my stomach isn't turning.

At this point in time I'll say "job well done" by Dorsey.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12342800)
Nitpicking but give me Ed Reed over Eric Fisher all day every day

Really? You'd take a Hall of Famer over Fisher?

That's really going out on a limb.

Are you sure?

Bowser 07-30-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342789)
Good grief.

You'd rather pay a non-premium player $12 million a year over a premium position, a guy that has to go against the best pass rushers in any division?

Berry may be a great safety but a great safety will never have as much impact as an even average left tackle.

Yep. Left tackle is infinitely more important to ANY football team than a safety is, unless you build a Ronnie Lott/Troy Polamalu/Ed Reed hybrid.

Fisher showed me a lot last year, and now that he is paired with Mitchell for the foreseeable future, we have as good a pair of bookend tackles as anyone in our division, if not the AFC.

O.city 07-30-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342801)
Well, everyone knows my stance on Berry.

If I'm shelling out $12 million, it's not going to a safety.

I'd rather overpay a great player than overpay an average player, position be damned.

They're betting that Fisher becomes much more than an average player though so thats nice.

Hoover 07-30-2016 12:44 PM

I fear what Fish's price tag would be after next year assuming he continues to develop.

Its not like we were going to get a 25 year old assending LT on the cheap.

ThaVirus 07-30-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342805)
Really? You'd take a Hall of Famer over Fisher?



That's really going out on a limb.



Are you sure?


LOL so you disagree with your original assessment?

TomBarndtsTwin 07-30-2016 12:45 PM

Ed Reed is a future HOF Safety, not sure that comparison is fair.

I mean, I think most people would take Ronnie Lott over John Alt, if given the option.


(EB is most certainly not Ronnie Lott)

RINGLEADER 07-30-2016 12:46 PM

Fisher has gotten better the past two seasons. It may be a bit more than some wanted but the fact is it is a premium position, he is trending up not down, and the salary cap is getting so high that $12/mil for a competent LT is going to look like a steal in four years. If he regresses then it's a bad move, but you can say that about any player at any position at any time.

Quesadilla Joe 07-30-2016 12:47 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCChiefs?src=hash">#KCChiefs</a> OL Eric Fisher gets $28.5M fully guaranteed by March. KC thinks he’s about to break out with injuries gone. Deal works for both</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/759457496746438656">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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O.city 07-30-2016 12:47 PM

If he continues to progress, this ends up being a good deal for the CHiefs.

Bowser 07-30-2016 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12342800)
Nitpicking but give me Ed Reed over Eric Fisher all day every day

Reed will be a Hall of Famer, but even Reed isn't going to single handedly win games on defense if his offense sucks due to a Jordan Black sized hole at left tackle. That is exactly what the Chiefs would have if they would have signed Berry to this money and not Fisher.

RealSNR 07-30-2016 12:48 PM

I think Eric Fisher showed towards the end of last year that he's not just average, but he's a pretty good LT.

I'll definitely take it at the deal #s that Terez Paylor quoted

Bowser 07-30-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12342809)
I fear what Fish's price tag would be after next year assuming he continues to develop.

Its not like we were going to get a 25 year old assending LT on the cheap.

Excellent point

WhiteWhale 07-30-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342789)
Good grief.

You'd rather pay a non-premium player $12 million a year over a premium position, a guy that has to go against the best pass rushers in any division?

Berry may be a great safety but a great safety will never have as much impact as an even average left tackle.

Christ, I can't believe people on this forum value your opinion.

Hopefully Fisher can continue to develop and eventually become average.

O.city 07-30-2016 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12342818)
Reed will be a Hall of Famer, but even Reed isn't going to single handedly win games on defense if his offense sucks due to a Jordan Black sized hole at left tackle. That is exactly what the Chiefs would have if they would have signed Berry to this money and not Fisher.

Reed and that defense did singlehandely win games though, so thats not a great example.

mdchiefsfan 07-30-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12342799)
So he's getting slightly more than Lane Johnson, who's a right tackle.

Sounds like a fair deal to me.

The Chiefs offensive line looks to be locked up for the next 3 years at minimum.

As we have stated over the many years we've watched the Chiefs draft lineman after lineman: continuity is everything. To have, at least, our Tackles and Center established for the next 3 years is great thing.

Bowser 07-30-2016 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12342822)
Reed and that defense did singlehandely win games though, so thats not a great example.

Fair enough. Give me Reed, Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs and the rest of that wrecking crew of a defense, and then we wouldn't have to sign Fisher to an extension.

DaneMcCloud 07-30-2016 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 12342821)
Christ, I can't believe people on this forum value your opinion.

Hopefully Fisher can continue to develop and eventually become average.

That's you're ****ing dumb.

If you can't see that Fisher has become an above average tackle, then you need glasses.


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