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Chief Roundup 07-19-2016 01:59 PM
Chiefs got better times ahead in the next 3 seasons???
 
http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...-three-seasons


In their three seasons under coach Andy Reid, the Kansas City Chiefs haven’t won a division title, but they’ve been an annual playoff contender, reaching the postseason twice as a wild-card entrant. They haven’t been able to advance in the postseason beyond the divisional round.

This interesting post suggests that for the foreseeable future, the next three seasons, the Chiefs are headed for more of the same.

ESPN ranked the prospects for each of the NFL’s 32 teams over the 2016, 2017 and 2018 seasons based on several factors, including the quality of the overall roster, quarterback, coaching, the draft, and the front office. The Chiefs are a respectable 11th, their strength according to this ranking being Reid’s coaching ability.

Eleventh doesn’t sound bad, but it doesn’t represent an improvement over what the Chiefs have been over the past three seasons. In the future rankings, the Chiefs are second in the AFC West behind the No. 9 Denver Broncos and sixth overall in the AFC.

That should sound familiar. The Chiefs have finished second to the Broncos in their division in each of Reid’s three seasons. They’ve been the fifth seed in the playoffs in each of their two postseason appearances.

Those Chiefs fans with long memories may not think of this pattern as being stuck in a rut. The Chiefs, after all, won no more than four games in four of the six seasons previous to Reid’s arrival, so these are prosperous times for Kansas City’s NFL team, relatively speaking.

Ultimately, though, they haven’t been fulfilling. And if the Chiefs follow up in the next three seasons with more of the same, even the most patient of their fans might come to think Kansas City was definitely stuck in a rut with Andy Reid as the head coach.

staylor26 07-19-2016 02:01 PM
A pessimistic article from Teicher that says absolutely nothing of substance?

No way!!!!

Chief Roundup 07-19-2016 02:04 PM
IMO we should win the division this year and win at least another playoff game, maybe even two.

Coochie liquor 07-19-2016 02:04 PM
Future rankings? Who the cuck determines those?

Chief Roundup 07-19-2016 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12323366)
Future rankings? Who the cuck determines those?
What the hell is that? It sure is not a word.

Tribal Warfare 07-19-2016 02:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12323369)
What the hell is that? It sure is not a word.

Self hating white people per urbandictionary

Coochie liquor 07-19-2016 02:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12323369)
What the hell is that? It sure is not a word.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=300897

stevieray 07-19-2016 02:26 PM
...if he never wrote another article on the chiefs, I wouldn't lose any sleep.

KC_Lee 07-19-2016 02:32 PM
So basically it's the 90's all over again? Great, let me break out the Zubaz pants.

O.city 07-19-2016 03:44 PM
Well, if it plays out like that over the next 3 years he's not wrong about it being a lukewarm tenure

staylor26 07-19-2016 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323528)
Well, if it plays out like that over the next 3 years he's not wrong about it being a lukewarm tenure
Of course it will, but what reason is he basing this on?

Some reeruned subjective rankings "for the next 3 years"?

There was no sense of optimism in that article, just like every other one he writes. Not even a mention of getting over the hump of winning a playoff game when it seemed appropriate. If you're going to be negative at least back it up with something of substance.

O.city 07-19-2016 04:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323544)
Of course it will, but what reason is he basing this on?

Some reeruned subjective rankings "for the next 3 years"?

There was no sense of optimism in that article, just like every other one he writes. Not even a mention of getting over the hump of winning a playoff game when it seemed appropriate. If you're going to be negative at least back it up with something of substance.
He's basing it on the rankings. Based on these projected rankings, if it plays out the way they're projecting.

One could also make the case that he's basing it one Reid's history here.

Personally, based on the last decade, another run of the 90s isn't a bad thing. Losing and being horrifically bad sucks.

DaneMcCloud 07-19-2016 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323558)
One could also make the case that he's basing it one Reid's history here.
Then that makes it even more ****ing reeruned.

In two out of the last three seasons, the Chiefs have gone on a 9-0 run (11-0 last year).

The 2016 team, on paper, is by far the most talented team the Chiefs have fielded during Reid's tenure, so what makes anyone believe that the Chiefs will fare even worse?

staylor26 07-19-2016 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323558)
He's basing it on the rankings. Based on these projected rankings, if it plays out the way they're projecting.

One could also make the case that he's basing it one Reid's history here.

Personally, based on the last decade, another run of the 90s isn't a bad thing. Losing and being horrifically bad sucks.
I get that. My point is, this article is somehow even more pointless than those rankings. How the **** can you rank for 3 years down the line?

He could've summarized this in a tweet, but he's Teicher so he has to go all doom and gloom for no apparent reason.

O.city 07-19-2016 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12323561)
Then that makes it even more ****ing reeruned.

In two out of the last three seasons, the Chiefs have gone on a 9-0 run (11-0 last year).

The 2016 team, on paper, is by far the most talented team the Chiefs have fielded during Reid's tenure, so what makes anyone believe that the Chiefs will fare even worse?
And in said seasons, still have failed to win the division and have 1 playoff win to show for it.

O.city 07-19-2016 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323562)
I get that. My point is, this article is somehow even more pointless than those rankings. How the **** can you rank for 3 years down the line?

He could've summarized this in a tweet, but he's Teicher so he has to go all doom and gloom for no apparent reason.
Basically he's saying, if the next 3 years go like the last 3, it would be kind of a meh tenure. Or atleast thats what I took it as.

stevieray 07-19-2016 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323571)
1 playoff win to show for it.
as opposed to the previous 20 years or so?

I'LL TAKE IT.

DaneMcCloud 07-19-2016 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323571)
And in said seasons, still have failed to win the division and have 1 playoff win to show for it.
It's also safe to say that the Broncos were ahead of the Chiefs when Reid and Dorsey took over and have been to two Super Bowls during that time period.

The fact that the Chiefs were able to go from 2-14 to 11-5, 9-7, 11-5 and a playoff win is pretty damn impressive.

RunKC 07-19-2016 04:35 PM
Chiefs have gotten better and better every year during this regime.

An AFCW division winner+1 playoff win is the floor for this season.

staylor26 07-19-2016 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323571)
And in said seasons, still have failed to win the division and have 1 playoff win to show for it.
I love how everybody went from acting like winning a playoff game was a near impossible task, and something we needed to finally do to truly get over the hump, but now that we've done it, it all of a sudden means absolutely nothing.

I get that it's championship or bust now, but it's pretty spoiled of you to act as though that wasn't a huge step forward in the right direction. Not to mention the way this team battled in NE despite all the injuries. Any other recent Chiefs team would've been completely embarrassed in that game with those conditions, but we faught and somehow had a legitimate shot at winning it.

O.city 07-19-2016 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12323577)
It's also safe to say that the Broncos were ahead of the Chiefs when Reid and Dorsey took over and have been to two Super Bowls during that time period.

The fact that the Chiefs were able to go from 2-14 to 11-5, 9-7, 11-5 and a playoff win is pretty damn impressive.
Absolutely.

O.city 07-19-2016 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323582)
I love how everybody went from acting like winning a playoff game was a near impossible task, and something we needed to finally do to truly get over the hump, but now that we've done it, it all of a sudden means absolutely nothing.

I get that it's championship or bust now, but it's pretty spoiled of you to act as though that wasn't a huge step forward in the right direction. Not to mention the way this team battled in NE despite all the injuries. Any other recent Chiefs team would've been completely embarrassed in that game with those conditions, but we faught and somehow had a legitimate shot at winning it.
I don't remember alot of that being said, but they're right on the track they need to be.

But as his stating here, if the next 3 years look like the last 3 have, it'll be a failure

O.city 07-19-2016 04:44 PM
And point me to where I'm acting as if that wasn't a step in the right direction?

Kman34 07-19-2016 04:45 PM
If any thing we are ascending....We beat Denver at Denver ....should have beat them at home.... then.....won a road playoff game... Without a proven QB Denver is second place team to me...

staylor26 07-19-2016 04:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323573)
Basically he's saying, if the next 3 years go like the last 3, it would be kind of a meh tenure. Or atleast thats what I took it as.
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12323590)
And point me to where I'm acting as if that wasn't a step in the right direction?
The way you talk about "the last 3", certainly sounds like that. By "last 3", you clearly don't mean continuing to ascend, which is exactly what we've done.

O.city 07-19-2016 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323595)
The way you talk about "the last 3", certainly sounds like that.
If the next 3 years are a carbon copy of the last 3, would you say it's been a successful tenure?

6 years with 2 playoff wins and 0 division titles would be a blah time.

staylor26 07-19-2016 04:50 PM
I'm just going to assume you mean finishing our season with a loss, and if that's the case I agree.

Why Teicher fails to acknowledge the steps we've taken is my initial point though. He's pretending like none of that has happened, and there's no reason to be optimistic.

A good beat writer would at least give that side of the argument.

Pasta Little Brioni 07-19-2016 04:56 PM
Stopped reading at behind Denver

staylor26 07-19-2016 04:58 PM
I just flat out can't stand Teicher. I don't know how many of you saw it, but at the beginning of the offseason he was questioning Dorsey and basically said "So, you've had some pretty good offseasons since you've been here, but everything is lining up for you to fail this time." (Howard and Smith leaving, losing our 3rd).

What does Dorsey go on to do? Have another really good offseason by getting Howard back on a great deal and picking up Schwartz with some of the money he saved by not signing Smith (on another great deal). Then he makes the moves in the draft to get back the value he lost with the tampering charges while adding a really nice chunk of talent to the roster.

And here Teicher is still waiting for everything to collapse with his doom and gloom bullshit. He's a ****ing joke and clearly has a negative bias in the mold of Clay.

Easy 6 07-19-2016 04:58 PM
I have a litany of valid reasons why this team could win it all in the next three seasons... why hasnt Teicher moved on to another beat all of these years later, does no one else want him?

SAUTO 07-19-2016 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12323581)
Chiefs have gotten better and better every year during this regime.

An AFCW division winner+1 playoff win is the floor for this season.
11-5

9-7

11-5

It's good especially compared to previous years but it's in no way "improving every year"

staylor26 07-19-2016 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12323612)
11-5

9-7

11-5

It's good especially compared to previous years but it's in no way "improving every year"
Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.

RunKC 07-19-2016 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323607)
I just flat out can't stand Teicher. I don't know how many of you saw it, but at the beginning of the offseason he was questioning Dorsey and basically said "So, you've had some pretty good offseasons since you've been here, but everything is lining up for you to fail this time." (Howard and Smith leaving, losing our 3rd).

What does Dorsey go on to do? Have another really good offseason by getting Howard back on a great deal and picking up Schwartz with some of the money he saved by not signing Smith (on another great deal). Then he makes the moves in the draft to get back the value he lost with the tampering charges while adding a really nice chunk of talent to the roster.

And here Teicher is still waiting for everything to collapse with his doom and gloom bullshit. He's a ****ing joke and clearly has a negative bias in the mold of Clay.
Terez is the best Chiefs writer in KC. Mellinger is pretty fair most of the time.

O.city 07-19-2016 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323618)
Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.
Theyve gotta take the next step this year and beat good teams on the road. That's been a stumbling block that's kept them from winning the division.

SAUTO 07-19-2016 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323618)
Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.
LMAO ok buddy.

staylor26 07-19-2016 05:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12323630)
LMAO ok buddy.
The only thing that's arguable is year 1 to year 2. I can see why you might feel that way, but I disagree. There should be no argument about year 2 to year 3.

Mr. Laz 07-19-2016 05:25 PM
Coaching was absolutely the reason we improved in Reid's first couple of years in KC.

Now it's Dorsey.

Still waiting to see if Reid can keep up or if he's just an offensive minded Shottenheimer.

Easy 6 07-19-2016 05:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323618)
Wrong.

In terms of record, yes. Not much improvement at all there, but the team has clearly gotten better from year to year.

We couldn't beat playoff teams in the first year, despite the record. The following year, we beat the two teams that went on to play in the SB.

Last year we finally beat Denver (should've been twice), and finally won a playoff game.
Must say I agree here

People might sometimes forget just what exactly was inherited by this regime... a franchise at its historical bottom

Immediately turning that around into 3 consecutive winning seasons and reaching all kinds of important milestones along the way tells me what I need to know about Dorsey and co

And I'm not buying "all the talent they inherited"... yes they inherited studs in every team category, but we all know it was a top heavy and ultimately empty roster that couldnt do SHIT right

Lets not even get going on the losing culture that had set in here... we were RIGHT there with the Browns of the league and we all know it

This current team has depth, swagger and talent all OVER the place

Dont like Smiff? just wait, he isnt getting any younger

When you've seen some of the very worst, the good ones truly stand out

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-19-2016 05:48 PM
This is a different Chiefs team than we have EVER had, well, the last forty years. Under Schotty we were good on Defense but our Offense sucked. Under Vermeil Our offense was great but our defense sucked. Now we have the most complete team we've ever fielded. And special teams ain't too shabby either.

The only thing that sucks now is Teicher.

Sandy Vagina 07-19-2016 05:48 PM
The talent is definitely better than it's ever been under Andy in KC. Losing Sean Smith is a tough one, but adding Schwartz balances that and then some, imo.

I don't fully remember what went wrong in 2012, but in the other years.. playoff years.. the Chiefs just had some brutal injuries at critical positions that sabotaged them going further.

Buzz 07-19-2016 06:22 PM
If we can stay healthy and not have cancer, blown knees and concussions to star players, I like our chances. Denver may be questionable at quarterback, defense will carry that team.

ThaVirus 07-19-2016 06:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12323656)
Lets not even get going on the losing culture that had set in here... we were RIGHT there with the Browns of the league and we all know it

Not really. We had hosted a playoff game just two years prior to the 2012 disaster. 7-9 and two ridiculously fluke-ish blocked field goals away from winning the division in 2011.

Meatloaf 07-19-2016 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12323671)
This is a different Chiefs team than we have EVER had, well, the last forty years. Under Schotty we were good on Defense but our Offense sucked. Under Vermeil Our offense was great but our defense sucked. Now we have the most complete team we've ever fielded. And special teams ain't too shabby either.

The only thing that sucks now is Teicher.
Agree with you Hog. This team is solid top to bottom. Secondary is young, but we have a bunch of new talent - hoping that with good coaching (and our secondary coaches are great), one or two of these guys could be pretty darned good.

This team is gonna be hard to beat.

DaneMcCloud 07-19-2016 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12323745)
Not really. We had hosted a playoff game just two years prior to the 2012 disaster. 7-9 and two ridiculously fluke-ish blocked field goals away from winning the division in 2011.
Come on.

The roster was shot and the QB worse than shit.

ThaVirus 07-19-2016 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12323776)
Come on.



The roster was shot and the QB worse than shit.

No doubt about it.

We weren't Browns-level bad, though.

Meatloaf 07-19-2016 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12323776)
Come on.

The roster was shot and the QB worse than shit.
Not sure what's worse than shit, but I think you NAILED it as far as our QBs back then. :thumb:

Easy 6 07-19-2016 07:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12323745)
Not really. We had hosted a playoff game just two years prior to the 2012 disaster. 7-9 and two ridiculously fluke-ish blocked field goals away from winning the division in 2011.
We had and still have those great locker room presences... but they were basically helpless when surrounded by so much incompetence

It was a historically bad era for this team - complete ineptitude - the headlines are still out there to dig up, there is nothing to argue about

Nitpick if you want and I wont argue, but this team was a gutted mess that had not had a comprehensive and winning strategic direction from the top down since Stram died, IMO

ThaVirus 07-19-2016 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12323803)
We had and still have those great locker room presences... but they were basically helpless when surrounded by so much incompetence



It was a historically bad era for this team - complete ineptitude - the headlines are still out there to dig up, there is nothing to argue about



Nitpick if you want and I wont argue, but this team was a gutted mess that had not had a comprehensive and winning strategic direction from the top down since Stram died, IMO

The roster, outside of the 5-6 blue chips we had, was complete shit. I'm not arguing that and I don't think anyone would.

I'm saying we weren't Browns level bad. You have to be really bad for a really long time to make that distinction. If ever we reached that point it was during the Herm years.

Meatloaf 07-19-2016 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12323816)
The roster, outside of the 5-6 blue chips we had, was complete shit. I'm not arguing that and I don't think anyone would.

I'm saying we weren't Browns level bad. You have to be really bad for a really long time to make that distinction. If ever we reached that point it was during the Herm years.
We were Browns-level bad in the late 70s. Those teams were B-A-D.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2016 07:25 PM
Some of it depends on the way people want to view things.
I like others think Teicher is being negative which means that he doesn't really see us improving all that much or not enough to accomplish more than what we currently have while under Reid.
The last time that this organization won 2 playoff games in a 6 year period was the early 90s and before that the late 60's. Although that is not great in some ways it would still be better than we have been in at least 23 years.
I think we will win a Division title this year and probably at least 1 more playoff game this season as well. Beyond that only time will tell because of countless possibilities.

ThaVirus 07-19-2016 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 12323828)
We were Browns-level bad in the late 70s. Those teams were B-A-D.

That was before my time. I've heard about the 60's squads but know virtually nothing about this team from 1970-1990. We must have blown some serious dicks.

Meatloaf 07-19-2016 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12323929)
That was before my time. I've heard about the 60's squads but know virtually nothing about this team from 1970-1990. We must have blown some serious dicks.
In the late 70's our players were bad, our coaches were bad and our front office was bad. Trifecta of Dread.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2016 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12323929)
That was before my time. I've heard about the 60's squads but know virtually nothing about this team from 1970-1990. We must have blown some serious dicks.
From 1974-1989 we were 94-144-2. We had one 10 win season, one 9 win season and three 8 win seasons.

Gonzo 07-19-2016 09:49 PM
You know, I almost miss Whitlock. Adam is a homer half the time, a doomsdayer the other half and a douchetastic moron all the time.

DaneMcCloud 07-19-2016 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12323816)
The roster, outside of the 5-6 blue chips we had, was complete shit. I'm not arguing that and I don't think anyone would.

I'm saying we weren't Browns level bad. You have to be really bad for a really long time to make that distinction. If ever we reached that point it was during the Herm years.
Your analysis from watching a Black&White RCA console TV would have been spot on.

:moon:

BlackOp 07-19-2016 10:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12323599)

A good beat writer would at least give that side of the argument.
He's not a "good" beat writer...he's a paid NFL shill to keep a small market team out of the narrative.

Had the NY Giants won 11 in a row and won 30-0 in the play-offs..only to be decimated by injuries in the next game...this off-season would be nothing but hype.

KC...nary a word

DaneMcCloud 07-19-2016 10:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12324335)
He's not a "good" beat writer...he's a paid NFL shill to keep a small market team out of the narrative.

Had the NY Giants won 11 in a row and won 30-0 in the play-offs..only to be decimated by injuries in the next game...this off-season would be nothing but hype.

KC...nary a word
That's not on Teicher, that's on the small media market.

It's also on Clark Hunt.

BlackOp 07-19-2016 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12324344)
That's not on Teicher, that's on the small media market.

It's also on Clark Hunt.
There was an ESPN article about the best new FA acquisitions in the AFCW this off-season. Teicher didn't even mention Mitchell Schwartz...he's the best pick-up in the entire division. Dude's paid to spread a negative narrative...

How does a supposed "beat writer" for a single team..neglect mentioning picking up a #1 rated o-lineman? It's deliberate...do you think Legworld would bring it up if the Donkos signed him?

eDave 07-19-2016 10:53 PM
You can't predict one year, much less three.

DaneMcCloud 07-19-2016 10:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12324355)
You can't predict one year, much less three.
Chiefs got

Discuss Thrower 07-19-2016 11:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12324355)
You can't predict one year, much less three.
You sure?

Spoiler!

Chiefs Pantalones 07-19-2016 11:42 PM
What's the consensus on CP in regards to this season's expectations? AFC West champs? Deep playoff run? Let down year?

ThaVirus 07-19-2016 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12324394)
What's the consensus on CP in regards to this season's expectations? AFC West champs? Deep playoff run? Let down year?
Deep playoff run or bust with this roster.

So we'll probably go 7-9 ��

Discuss Thrower 07-19-2016 11:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12324394)
What's the consensus on CP in regards to this season's expectations? AFC West champs? Deep playoff run? Let down year?
There is no consensus. About half of the posters think this team is the greatest since 1969 and the others know not to disagree because they'll be flamed at best or banned at worst.

BlackOp 07-20-2016 12:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 12324394)
What's the consensus on CP in regards to this season's expectations? AFC West champs? Deep playoff run? Let down year?
They were the highest scoring AFC road team....that is an important stat. They will make the play-offs.

Injuries/schedule will dictate everything....with every team. It's luck and officiating...profit plays a big, big part in this...unfortunately.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-20-2016 01:24 AM
With this schedule I think it's a good opportunity we start the season a little short handed so that our inexperienced crew get in the mix. Come November, I expect us to be going full speed.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 07-20-2016 01:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12324397)
Deep playoff run or bust with this roster.

So we'll probably go 7-9 ��
Only if Alex gets hurt do I see this happening. But even then I would say bray or murray could take us to 8 wins with how much talent at RB we have

Rausch 07-20-2016 02:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12324412)
With this schedule I think it's a good opportunity we start the season a little short handed so that our inexperienced crew get in the mix. Come November, I expect us to be going full speed.
Houston won't be on the field for a good while. We have some solid 2nd year players (last year was our best draft IMHO) that should contribute heavily.

WR, CB, a healthy Morse, and if even ONE of our rookies is able to contribute this year we're a step ahead.

O line got a huge upgrade at RT and our overall health can't be worse.

Our skill positions are good enough. Our QB is good enough. Our defense should still be top 5 (top 10 at worst.)

We just need to stay healthy...

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2016 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12324390)
You sure?
Predicting a team to finish between 7-9 and 11-5 is suuuuure going out on a ledge ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 07-20-2016 03:50 AM
Uh uh da Chefs will finish between 8 and 12 wins this year. Can u get a vegas bet on dat???

Rausch 07-20-2016 04:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12324440)
Uh uh da Chefs will finish between 8 and 12 wins this year. Can u get a vegas bet on dat???
Yes, you can...

DaneMcCloud 07-20-2016 09:48 AM
If the team stays relatively healthy, 14-2.

If they lose key players to injury, 10-6.

tx4chiefs 07-20-2016 09:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12323365)
IMO we should win the division this year and win at least another playoff game, maybe even two.
I sure hope so.

Chiefs Pantalones 07-20-2016 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12324645)
If the team stays relatively healthy, 14-2.

If they lose key players to injury, 10-6.
14-2 would be crazy lol.

I know it's not best to look at the schedule because that never goes according to planned. Injuries, some teams surprise, some fall on their face. But if you do just look at the schedule, wow, 14-2 isn't really crazy to think about if we stay healthy.

OnTheWarpath15 07-20-2016 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12324645)
If the team stays relatively healthy, 14-2.

If they lose key players to injury, 10-6.
This got me thinking...

Vegas has the line for KC wins around 8.5-9.

I'd love to see data regarding how close Vegas predictions pre-season are to the actual result.

kcxiv 07-20-2016 08:47 PM
should have put adam tiecher in the title so i know not to click it and read it. Didnt know it was him until after a read an article about nothing really.

Mr. Laz 07-20-2016 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12325417)
This got me thinking...

Vegas has the line for KC wins around 8.5-9.

I'd love to see data regarding how close Vegas predictions pre-season are to the actual result.
Vegas lines mean almost nothing in terms of real predictions.

They are setting a betting line design to get people to bet and so the house will win the %.

Discuss Thrower 07-20-2016 09:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12325417)
This got me thinking...

Vegas has the line for KC wins around 8.5-9.

I'd love to see data regarding how close Vegas predictions pre-season are to the actual result.
Pretty sure it was off by 1.5 - 2 on the over last year, push or .5 above the over the year before that, 3.5 - 4 above the over the year before that and something like 5.5 below the under the year before that.

That's entirely guessing from vague memory.

EDIT: Oddshark listed '15 Chiefs at 8.5 on the O/U, a Cowboys blog cited Bovada's KC at 8.0 in Sept. '14 and 7.5 for Sept.'13

EDIT2: BusinessInsider quoted the '12 Chiefs at 8.0 in May.

Hammock Parties 07-21-2016 01:37 PM
Super Bowl or bust.

Discuss Thrower 07-21-2016 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12326658)
Super Bowl or bust.
That's incredibly optimistic.

Really, anything more than counting on 10 wins is optimistic. Harder schedule, lots of questions on defense and the receiving game is a two man show with Maclin and Kelce which isn't any different than last year.


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