Star Trek: Beyond
 

Paramount just released the trailer to Star Trek Beyond. I am less than pleased overall.

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Justin Lin, the director of the last 3 F&F movies, is at the helm of this bullshit and from the tiny snippet of Simon Pegg jumping out of a pod and hanging off the side of a cliff... it looks equally as campy as F&F.

Justin Lin, the director of nothing but remakes and sequels, is also the guy in charge of the reshooting (because there won't be anything new about it) of the Highlander movie.

I love Trek but this new movie series has been largely garbage. Little to no rewatchability at all for either movie. For the first time ever... I am more excited for something Star Wars related than Trek.

Ugh. WTF? They just destroy their brand new ship? Whaaaa?

Sure hope he doesn't ruin Star Wars.

I liked the 2009 Star Trek movie.

Into Darkness was god awful.

This looks even worse.

Paramount is going to really feel this one in their wallets. People will see this opening weekend and then shit will dry up fast. They're going to lose money on this movie. Guaranteed.

This looks awful, IMO.

This also does not bode well for the new series, since it's the same writer and producer.

Abrams produced this, which doesn't mean much. He didn't write it, didn't cast or direct it.

I fully acknowledge the Khan business was pretty bad. But if the original didn't exist it wouldn't be a completely unenjoyable movie. This looks bad.

2009 was a fun movie, but it wasn't Star Trek. Nothing in the reboot has been, it's just action movies in space. STD was shit, and this looks even worse.

Ugh. Didn't realize that.

In fairness, Orci's script for this was rewritten by Simon Pegg and another writer.

Of course he did direct Into Darkness...

So instead of the good old days, where the odd # Star Trek movies were not good/awful and the even # were good/awesome, now they start good and progressively get worse.

They're putting a series together? With this cast or what?

It looks like they're taking on a horde of Dark Elves.

That's where I am.

The 2nd movie wasn't bad. It wasn't as good as the reboot, but that's only because the reboot is really good, IMO.

This movie, OTOH, looks horrific. It had an unshakable 'direct to DVD' feel to it. If the budget for this one was anywhere near the last one, they'll lose their ass (well, probably not because international markets will probably eat it up, but it'll get smoked domestically).

Robert Orci is creating a new Star Trek series that will be broadcast only on the new streaming CBS website, which will cost $5.99 per month.

It's just another dumb Star Trek idea.

Turning Star Trek into action schlock is the worst thing ever.

I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it either.

However, I felt the same way about the first trailer I saw of the original reboot. *Waiting and seeing; waiting and seeing.*

That is one really bad trailer. Would be okay for a random sci-fi action flick but star trek? Just no tone of or connection to that universe at all.

Which doesn't mean the movie itself will be anything like the trailer, but Christ, imagine if they cut a trailer like that for the force awakens. There'd be a riot. ****ing horrific marketing. Which I guess shouldn't be a surprise from the idiots who thought Into Darkness was a good title for a star trek move. And didn't realize everyone could call it STD.

Some of these trailer editing teams are great. Like the ones who've worked on the force awakens. The production team on this one should be shitcanned yesterday.

Thing is though....both of the new films made money on being aimed at younger audiences and mostly being action schlock. They know their target audience on this and it's no longer hardcore Trekkies.

As long as they get general audiences in to see Star Trek they are satisfied, and they know they will get hardcore Trek fans in anyway, because let's be honest, I'm going to see this film just because it has Kirk in it and on the off chance Pegg didn't **** it up.

If they put out a trailer like this...no one under 30 would go see it.

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People under 30 are going to the movies on Friday in droves. You don't have to make everything look like a sugar rush on crack to get butts in seats. Make it look good, make it look worth people's time. Don't make it look trite. Make it look like an event. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't have to be a trailer from the 90s.

Hell, they've had trouble drawing an audience anyway....

And I will continue to say exactly what I said for Into Darkness: their marketing hurts more than it helps. I think that might be true with this.

Bingo.

Isn't that what he is ultimately doing with Star Wars too? Directing the first one then just producing the rest?

looks like

Star Fast and Furious Beyond Trek

Of course, that was also 20+ years ago. That was, imo, the 3rd best movie of the original 10 (and a darn good movie overall), right after WoK and First Contact.

Ditto.

Well, it's different because he and Lawrence Kasdan literally mapped out the entire Star Wars Galaxy for the next 100 years. He's going to be much more closely involved in Star Wars and I'm sure he'll direct another one, at some point down the road.

I can't see him ever returning to direct Star Trek. He's just getting producer credit (and revenue) for jump starting the franchise.

I'm friends with several trailer editors and from my understanding, it's an extremely difficult job to be handed an unfinished 2 hour film, then try to whittle something interesting out of it for 60-120 seconds.

My guess is that since this film is far from complete, the director doesn't even know "what" the film will be, as so many films are actually created in Post.

But that said, there was no reason for Paramount to rush out a trailer, especially one as shitty as this one. I just hope that none of my friends edited it.

One more thing: Why does the Enterprise need to be destroyed in every other Star Trek film? What's up with that?

I was thinking more along the lines of the producers, those 'visionary' folks telling us editor monkeys what to do...

And the marketing teams they're saddled to.

What kind of a name is "Beyond" anyway for a movie.

You can tell they put real thought into that shit.

There's also the fact that he's been a Star Wars fan since childhood, and never a trekkie. Star Trek was a job. Force Awakens is a passion.

Which doesn't mean he won't **** it up...

(Total tangent but the funniest thing to me lately has been people complaining about TFA possibly being at it's core a remake. Like the first Star Wars is some original thing, rather than a pastiche of Dune, serials and Kurosawa movies...)

I guess everybody wants to be attached to Star Wars this weekend.

Makes sense from a marketing perspective

Good grief, there are going to be like 30 minutes of trailers attached.

That's generally not the way it works for trailers. The studio or production company will hire a trailer house and sometimes, even a specific editor.

They hire a music supervisor, who then tries to secure the rights to a specific song or songs, along with trailer music from one of the production libraries, which the editor will cut in. Often times, there are five or six distinct pieces of music for one trailer.

But whoever cut this trailer - yeesh. No feel whatsoever.

(I meant whoever was acting as producer for the house who put together the trailer. I know it's completely unrelated to the movie's production...)

The editor generally has free reign.

It's also extremely lucrative, even reality TV. Really big bucks and they're always in demand.

I dunno, I didn't mind "STID" and this trailer doesn't bother me either. It is what it is. I like the character reboots and how the new actors are portraying them. This trailer was clearly cut to push the F&TF angle and the connection with the director.

I bet they'll repair the Enterprise in the end, like they did in Into Darkness. I think you see it crashed on a planet, ****ed up but semi-intact, at 0:30.

They do over-rely on blowing up the ship to raise stakes, but from a continuity nerd point of view I wish they had stuck to the plan of blowing up the Enterprise in the beginning of Trek 09. Basically it was going to be a newly launched TOS Enterprise instead of the Kelvin. Which would have explained why Kirk seemed to have some attachment to the Enterprise, and why it looks completely different to how it did in the original universe.

One thing, I do think the uniforms look better. I never liked the superhero costume texture they used in the previous two movies.

So the movie is one long away mission resulting from a catastrophe that disables/destroys the ship. The away mission takes place in a retro-futuristic semi-anarchistic dystopian society/setting. I see Star Fleet unis on people in the background. So I'm assuming that Kirk bonds with a hot goth-hippy chick while performing a scout mission, Spock and Bones attempt to take over the established society and free the crew/society, and Scotty makes cameos doing weird stuff to move the plot past technical issues.

Totally agree. I spent the entire trailer trying to figure out WTF is going on and wondering why everyone is jumping...

Worst trailer released this week...

Ugh.

Thanks for filling me in.

+1

This too.

Awesome-another Star Trek movie, another Star Wars, another Superman, another Alien, another Captain America.. and they remade Tarzan as well.

Might as well remake Ground Hog day too-because that is what it is like going to the movies- same movies again and again.

Groundhog Day was already remade with Tom Cruise.

It's called Edge of Tomorrow.

Yeah, but that movie was awesome so it gets a pass.

Mainly because watching Cruise die over and over and over and over and over was more fun than any plot involved.

Doesn't look like Star Trek to me. Maybe it's the trailer, but the music selection and the way the trailer is made makes it look like it's trying to be something Star Trek never was.

The music selection is straight out of the 2009 remake where young Kirk listened to Beastie Boys before dropping his stepfather's car off a cliff. Hence: Scotty, "Is that music"; Kirk, "It's a good choice."

But yeah, the action seems to be Star Trek + Mission Impossible + Fast and Furious.

BTW, anyone else think of this when they saw the trailer, or am I the only one that nerdy?

the ole conflict/danger cliche, they should give every other ship red streaks if a director with personality decides to poke fun at it, and the ship becomes the " John McClain" of Enterprise vessels. Takes a beating, but always survives

They're keeping it running parallel to the original movies -

- First movie was an unstoppable foe
- Second movie a major character dies
- Third movie the Enterprise gets destroyed

On and on....

I get that. But trailers are cut these days to sell the 'sizzle' Hopefully there is more real 'meat' to the real movie.

People forget there was alot of action in the original series. At least a Kirk punchout, pulpy fight scene in every 3rd or 4th episode.

It wasnt until the Next generation series that Trek got entirely 'Heady'

This trailer has more action than an entire season of Star Trek.

This trailer needs Warf

Another Ghostbusters!

How many billions does it cost the Federation every time one of these suckers goes down??

Not nearly as much as the trillions it costs The Galactic Empire each times a Death Star is destroyed.

I read the outline of a paper written by a college professor stating that a Death Star's destruction would destroy the galactic economy.

http://www.businessinsider.com/study...h-star-2015-12

Nothing. The world of the Federation doesn't operate on money. Everyone does everything for free, including being blown up, because that's just what you do.

PUKE EMOTICON

Here is a different perspective of the trailer than we all have. Maybe there is some hope?

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Just finished watching the tail end of Into Darkness. I had forgotten they started their '5 year mission'.

So this movie is about that???? Also, Carol Marcus is a part of the crew. Will Kirk be boning her?

I've never been more disinterested in a Star Trek movie.

LMAO What the hell?? Are they all wearing badly fitted wigs?

That looked like it should star Tim Allen.

I'd be all in for Galaxy Quest II

I thought of the Remans from Nemesis

I tried getting into Babylon 5 a couple years ago. To me, it's not good enough for as hard to track down as it is. I'm not wasting money on the DVDs, either.

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Sacrilege! :)

Granted season 1 is slow, but B5 is one of my all-time favorites. Sucks that no one is streaming legally.

I liked it all but season 5. That last season just never felt right to me.

Christ. And those are the good parts?

Come on you guys... Beastie Boys! It's so hip and edgy....

Was my first thought when I saw that in the trailer.

Ha, the alien chick Kirk saves in the transporter is the bad ass swords-for-legs girl from Kingsman? Nice.

But yeah, that trailer is a hot mess. I'll still reserve judgement since Simon Pegg wrote the script.

i thought he looked like scorpius from farscape. It's in the eyes. Mixed with a jem'hadar from ds 9.

B5 hasn't aged well. DS9 on the other hand is on netflix and still looks great.

Simon Pegg seems to agree with us...

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I have wondered if the character of supposed to be a jem'hadar, or based on one. In another part of the trailer it's skin is brown/tan, so blue seems to be lighting. Makes him even more like G'Kar.

I loved both those series as a pre-teen / teen.

TNG really got me into Trek, but, imo, most of the first three seasons were weak. DS9 was good front to back--it might actually win for my favorite Trek.

Its basically a 'Sizzle Reel'

They have to sell it to the cheap seats.

They already have the Trek fans because 'Star Trek'

Watch Chaos on the Bridge on Netflix. Interesting insight into the firs 3 seasons.

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DS9 is definitely my favorite. And it's the least 'classic' star trek of the bunch, at least until they introduced the defiant. So many great characters and arcs.

Grew up with the movies and OS. Teen years brought me TNG which I loved. Then DS9 which went through college. Voyager was okay. Never what it should have been. Then Enterprise was cancelled right when the production really started to click. The final season of that show may have been the finest season in all of Trek. But as a series, DS9 was and is it for me.

DS9 was the one were they didn't go anywhere, right? I watched a few and then stopped.

DS9 was the best and it was the one on the space station. Season 1 is slow... season 2 picks up. Season 3 through the end of the Dominion Wars was, IMO, the best Trek ever written.

Yeah, they shifted gears significantly after season 1.

All the Bajoran mystic mumbo jumbo in the pilot and early on was my least favorite part of the show. Glad I kept watching...