John Dorsey Appreciation Thread
 

This seemed like a necessary post. I think we as a fan base take for granted the moves our GM has made and the culture he and coach Reid have developed in KC. It's a tough thing to make all these things click at once (looking at you, Pioli).

A list I hope can be added to for years, some highlights of the Dorsey era since 2013:
-Drafted Travis Kelce, top 5 TE
-Drafted Eric Fisher, who has developed into a top 15, perhaps 10 tackle
-Claimed Jaye Howard, a brick wall at the LOS
-Claimed and re-signed Ron Parker, a journeyman turned into a high quality safety
-Signed Husain Abdullah, another quality safety
-Re-signed Allen Bailey, a bull at the LOS
-Flipped Kelcie McCray for a 5th round pick
-Signed Chase Daniel, great backup who has one the team a game in relief
-Signed Mike DeVito, solid veteran who is great in the run game
-Drafted Phillip Gaines, who looked like a real nice slot corner pre-ACL
-Re-signed Justin Houston, top 5 defensive player in the NFL
-Kept Tamba Hali on a pay cut, playing at a high level while the jury is still out on Dee Ford
-Signed Jeremy Maclin, a true WR1 that the Chiefs have lacked
-Draft De'Anthony Thomas, top 5 kick returner
-Signed undrafted FA's Charcandrick West, Albert Wilson, Justin March (promising prospect)
-Re-signed Jamaal Charles, all-time great RB
-Drafted Mitch Morse, already a top 10 center
-Drafted Marcus Peters, that's all
-Traded for Alex Smith, say what you will, no he's not elite, but he's better than what we've had for years and wins more than most
-Traded for Anthony Sherman, perhaps the best FB in the NFL
-Signed Sean Smith, top 10 corner a year ago

With the jury still out on several picks and more moves to be made, here's to hoping this list continues to grow and grow moving forward. Kudos so far, Mr. Dorsey. Don't stop now.
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Did he trade for Sherman? I remember the trade. Thought it was by Pioli though. Trade a Pioli draft pick. A corner whose name escapes me at the moment. Anyway, definitely a good trade. I don't think that the corner is even in the NFL anymore is he?

Javier Arenas. I guess it was Dorsey because it was 2013.

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Seems like there was a trade scenario with McCray too wasn't there? Dorsey picked up a cut olineman by Seattle last year, traded him for McCray later and then traded McCray this year to Seattle for a 5th? I don't remember the scenario exactly but it worked out great for KC.

Aren't there like 5 of these already?

He's that good.

At least. Probably about 3 or 4 "John the Jackass Dorsey" threads as well

Damn. Completely missed that one. Didn't get on much on game day cause of the rain, must have been why.

How many CP members are suffering from dementia?

If I recall correctly:

Rishaw Johnson off of waivers; Rishaw Johnson for Kelcie McCray; Kelcie McCray for a 2016 5th Rd Draft pick.

His biggest error will start tomorrow and have a chance to show us what he's got.

Imagine if Dee has a good game tomorrow?

As long as Dorsey continues to be productive in his drafting and can sign a few guys in FA we would continue to improve.

Increasing talent will override our coaching deficiencies.

Most likely 90%, most due to age declining faculties if you look at the "CP half life" years that people are posting in the "How old will you be when you've spent half your years on CP" thread, as well as how many pot heads and alchies are amongst the younger posters.

I'm a believer in him. For the most part, he's been really good.

That's a good collective list of moves.

Mind you, he does have his share of bad moves as well.

Imo, he would be an even better GM if he doesn't get ripped off by signing tier 2 players to non-reasonable deals. Vance Walker signing is one that comes to mind. But no GM is perfect and even the best ones make mistakes.

It takes a true genious to build a 6-5 team. You go boy!

Exactly! When the Chiefs win a playoff game I will send him a Thank You card.

At least he's establishing a winning culture.

The playoff win will come.

They've beaten a bunch of shitty teams and players aren't carrying out murder/suicides, yay!


Seriously though, too early to tell.

They've had plenty of signature wins over the last couple of years....

Where was that winning culture during the 5 game losing streak?

Dumb dumb dumb. You don't come back from 1-5 without strong minded players and a strong culture.

Just stop.

I'm not gonna post a Dorsey appreciation thread when we've beaten trash teams for the most part and haven't even won a playoff game yet. Just me though.

They've beaten 4 playoff teams in the past 2.5+ seasons, only including the Broncos at this point this season... two of those were in September.

I guess we have different definitions of "signature win". :shrug:

Like I said though, it's just too early to tell... he could be awesome and it all pays off in another year or 3, who knows (but I'm obviously not holding my breath). People are so quick to judge, and apparently they somehow still have fans who are quick to side with success. Kind of crazy, but whatever.

Lets put together a fund and fly an "WE LOVE DORSEY" Banner

There you go! Show the organization that we appreciate the positive as well as decry the negative.

Somebody take charge, I'm good for a 50 spot .

You can thank Reid for that

It takes him half the season to get his teams to the point that other teams are at in week 2.

laz your mailbox is full

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Look at the teams that were hot out the gate and tapered off . Greenbay, cincy, Denver,Atlanta. I love the fact we started out slow and now we're rolling. That may lead us to a playoff win.

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my bad

No credit for anybody until they at least win a playoff game.

Teams with a "winning culture" DON'T ****ING HAVE 5 GAME LOSING STREAKS TO BEGIN WITH you stupid one who sucks the penis. Get the **** out of here with that shit. Seriously.

Many coaches believe in the slow build, fair enough.

If it gets us a playoff win then fine.

5 year plan.

It's only year 3

tick tock

I'd put Alex Smith on the list. I know that's a debatable, but seriously he went out and got a QB we can win with now. He isn't the stud we all long for, but without him we are not much of a threat.

I can't drive without a car, but that doesn't mean I should go out and buy a piece of shit.

I can't **** without a girl, but that doesn't mean I should go to McDonalds and hit on the first 300-pound babe I see.

Agreed

Stop being an idiot troll. The Alex Smith of that past two weeks can get you a SB with elite defense and running game.

This is definitely getting old.

Alex Smith couldn't do that in 2011 and won't do it in 2015.

If people wish to bring up Alex Smith, they should expect debate.

I don't think Alex has anything to do with John. That was 100% Andy. Decision was made to get Alex before Dorsey even got the offer for this job.

Until something actually changes, the arguments will stay the same.

Explain where I called it a winning culture? Did I ever use that word? No? Ok

Yes because it was Smith who fumbled two punts in the NFC championship game, and Kyle Williams had 2 TDs/0 INTs.

Your act is worn out.

Baconeater-- please explain your root of constant frustration. You don't ever seem to be in a good mood. Cheer up, pal.

0 third down conversions by the 49ers had just as much to do with that loss

I will wait until we win a playoff game.

And yes this is a sad tweet.

Yawn....Alex Smith debate..... Crowd goes
Mild once again

It's not even about the Chiefs..it's about negative attention.

I'd be more than happy to fly a banner week 1 the year after we win a super bowl.

thanks for the rep! did it hit a little close to home?

You say you want to talk football, but in reality, all you want to talk is failure. Prolly why you'll be banned in the GDT.It's just silly. You're a talented, funny and smart guy, wasting time on something you don't have faith in. It doesn't make any difference in the big picture, whereas fun and positive stuff, does. ALWAYS.

NFC Title Game:

The 49ers converted just one of 13 third downs all game, with the only conversion coming on the final play of regulation, leaving plenty of blame to go to players besides Williams.

"We all know him," Smith said. "We know how committed he is to winning. It's not on him. I look at the 1-for-13 on third downs. I know he's going to feel bad, but he's still part of our team. We didn't lose the game there. We lost it across the board offensively. We just couldn't get it done."

The 49ers were ranked 31st I believe in 3rd down conversion % during the regular season and last amonsgt every playoff team at seasons end.

This is a good post.

He has had 10 years in the league to show us what he's got. It ain't much.

Youre not looking at this the right way.

I'm looking at this from a record perspective. Which is what you need to do to determine if you're winning more or losing more. What side is the pendulum of your team on? The winning side or losing side? If it on the winning side that more you have a winning culture and if it's on the losing side you have a losing culture

Chiefs have played a total of 47 games since Reid and Dorsey arrived in 2013 and have a record of 26-17. I think the pendulum has swung more on that winning side. Records tell you who you are. We are winners!

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Put the two together and we have shades of grey

Didn't realize Dee Ford was in the NFL for 10 years..

Aaron Murray says hi.

Aaron Murray was drafted.

God really created a whiny little girl with you. Coward.

Meh, I think holding off on lathering over his accomplishments until he cobbles-together a playoff win is pretty middle ground.

Much like the start of this season I didn't like much Dorsey did his first two years.

That's done and over.

This season there's very little I can see that he did wrong. I thought he was excellent in the draft (and who really argues over 6th/7th round picks?) Bringing in guys like West and Ware probably saved this season for us. Maclin has added a new dimension to the offense (even if he doesn't get the ball enough.)

This team isn't perfect but you can't fix everything wrong with a team in 1 offseason...

Dorsey has learned on the job. He has pretty mediocre drafts year 1 and 2. Way overpaid on several contracts early on. However, I thought he handled the Houston contract very well and his draft this year is looking brilliant. Consistently, he's been outstanding with low draft picks, undrafted rookies, and the cheap free agent reject pile. Unbelievably successful, in fact. My only big beef with him is, regardless of your opinion on Alex Smith, he should have drafted Bridgewater last year.

Are you attributing the Vikings wins to Teddy as a decent game manager or the fact they have good defense and the best RB in the league??

I have watched half of the Vikings games from start to finish. I like Teddy. But he's not going to be an upgrade over Smitty

Are you kidding me? Coming from the same guy that has been polishing smith's knob for doing the same exact shit for 10 years?

I never said Bridgewater would be starting by now over Smith. But you don't pass up chances to get a good QB, especially in a situation like KC where you still really don't know exactly what you have.

Thank you for the recognition, my son. Peace be with you.

It was year one that sold me on Dorsey. He absolutely got the better tackle as the other one really 'sucks' to use a term used elsewhere by NFL analysts. What sold me was the 7 players he took after training camp. That upgraded the roster and it was a wise thing to do since we had the first picks. I'm not sure every GM would do that, chucking the advances made in camp. It taught me that camp should never trump an opportunity to upgrade, you just catch up as fast as possible. I thought getting Smith was clearly the right move (actually both of them). I was wrong on Santos though, we are better off. I was surprised he cut Catapano but not sorry. I was surprised Spencer Ware did not replace Davis but looks like he finally might anyway. I'm not sold on Albert Wilson and I would have kept Williams and then planned to draft another receiver this year. Last week someone on the board suggested Berry was a LB. I think I agree, solves the inside problem. Berry is just always late in coverage, not a new problem. Remains to be seen on Ford...if it had been me, Hali would have been gone and Ford would be playing. Ford is a great pass rusher and I honestly think we would have gotten more from him than Hali at this point in his career. It's a mystery.

I can't state this enough. This season has really shown us just how good of a GM John Dorsey is.

There wasn't a noticeable drop off from Jamaal Charles or Justin Houston yesterday. If a poster told you before the season that Jamaal Charles and Justin Houston would both be out of a game and Dee Ford, Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware would come in and look great, you'd Probably laugh and tell them to go drink the stuff under the sink.

I mentioned this in another thread, but this is interesting. DeVito, Zombo and Ford have combined for 7 sacks and a forced fumble turned INT. Add in Nick Williams who is looking similar to Jaye Howard last year and there Ya go.

West and Ware are obviously looking great at RB. Parker filling in nicely for Gaines, Fulton looking good at backup C.

I can't imagine what this team will look like once Dorsey has another offseason to put the final touches on the OL and WR core.

This team is young, it's talented and we have money to keep them. We're gonna be good for a long time guys.

And that isnt even mentioning that 1 huge carry by Knile "Steal Of The Draft" Davis.

Why the **** does that even matter when he found West/Ware anyways?