Reid announces starting Oline for 1st preseason game
 

Reid confirmed after practice on Wednesday that from left to right, the Chiefs will start Eric Fisher, Ben Grubbs, Mitch Morse, Zach Fulton and Jeff Allen, according to Herbie Teope of Chiefs Digest.


Reid said Fisher, Grubbs, Morse, Fulton, Allen will start the preseason game.

— Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) August 12, 2015

Morse over Kush? Hmmm.

Apparently Stephenson can't play without the juice.


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Yeah but what about Kush? He has a JEEEEEEP!

PLUS two under-age girls and FLEX!1!

What does this say about how the staff really feels about Kush and Stephenson?

Bring Eric Winston in for a look?

Bingo.

Wut?

Think we can trade him for a low pick or get another player. We always trade with the Bucs.

They aren't happy thus far and want to poke them with a stick.

Hate to say it but it's looking that way.

Great roster stash move with Eric Kush last season then, amirite?

That is our best line we have. Let it roll and let them get some reps together.

Looks good to me.

That whole right side will be complete shit. If this is an upgrade over last year it's not by much.

Don't care. I just hope Allen looks good.

Getting one of the two offensive lineman drafted in 2012 would be a big success.

Allen Bailey at RT - Ironman football. He eats roadkill. He could do it.

They are resting them for the playoffs.

Exactly...

The fact that neither are capable of playing at this level for whatever reason.

I've said before that it's going to be a question of Stephenson being able to achieve functional power without the PED's as he's now going to be looked at with a higher degree of regularity/probability in terms of testing by the league. His only real question mark coming into the league was his strength, which wasn't overwhelming when he came out of college. He was incredibly athletic for a man his size, but not incredibly strong. One hoped that an NFL strength and conditioning program would have allowed his base athleticism to build his functional strength. However, as far as it goes right here, right now, this is apparently not the case.

With Kush, I've repeatedly said that if he was any good, even marginally, that they would have played him at guard last season due to the horrific nature of the on-field performance of McGlynn/Linkenbach. You simply couldn't get worse than those two. Well, unless it was Kush. I've already expressed my disappointment in not signing Rod Hudson to a new deal (although it would have been tough to match the offer given to him by the Raiders, he was still our best lineman by a good measure last season).

This shows that Reid and staff are more concerned about putting out the best five performance wise versus experience, tenure, etc., although I'm a bit concerned about Morse at center seeing as he's had very little experience at the position and defensive coordinators are going to go after him hard - like they did with Fulton last season.

Should have paid Hudson.

Not at the price tag he got.

But I was expressing some amusement to your post, since you were saying all offseason that Stepehenson was going to be the man when I expressed concerns.

Most of my heated exchanges were with SNR, but you chimed in.

And I will say this again.

SNR is a ****ing moron.

Does Stephenson even make the roster?

This is clearly just to add morse value so we can trade him and let kush start! Yay chuefs! -truefan

Eh, you always need a backup C. Would you rather have had Zach Fulton doing that job?

This is gonna be fun.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p29u4b-k8B...-rub-hands.gif

Are you ever right about anything? Fulton is only going to get better and Allen was playing well before he got hurt. Morse is the unknown but that is a hell of an impression if he has supplanted kush before the first preseason game.

What was I wrong about, Pat Bowlen? The fact that we were fine at the guard spots? Oh wait, I was right about that.

How about needing more depth at OT? Nope, I was right about that, too.

Go **** yourself.

So he was still drafted and intended to be a G, right?...

Your over reaction to preseason games always are "fun"

I was hoping that Stephenson was going to have it together for this season. He's got every physical tool you could possibly want from an offensive lineman, except the functional strength, which he obviously (now) bolstered in 2013 with PED's as he looked like a legit NFL OT, but then got the hammer applied after a failed drug test.

It's a fine line that separates college guys and NFL guys, even great college guys. It's not necessarily a (physical) numbers game either. Drive, ferocity at the snap/whistle, etc.

Like I said, I hoped that the freakish athletic ability possessed by Don would have helped him build that functional strength needed to play in the trenches at this level.

Perhaps, as another said, this is meant to light a fire under Kush and Stephenson, but I sincerely doubt it at this point. They need these guys to gel quickly and the only way that's happening is getting them reps. Four straight days of practice and now the PSG lineup...unless Stephenson or Kush has an epiphany, it appears that this is how we'll head into the 2015 season.

How do you know?

What if they improve? Oh wait **** that sh*t. There is no room for that.

Fulton had some outstanding moments run blocking and I'd love to keep him 2 deep for years to see what he might become.

I absolutely do not want him starting.

We seeing the difference here?...

Some day I will figure out if you two actively dislike each other or not.

At this point I kinda feel like it's similar to several years ago when Keitzman and Jack Harry would 'go at it' on the radio.

Is this just a ratings drive from you two? Because it would seem strange that two people who largely agree 90% of the time now hate each other because of a disagreement over Zach Fulton.

That's a hilarious statement coming from you. The line got better when Allen didn't play in 13' and he played 3 quarters in 14 the line wasn't good that game. If he's so good why doesn't he have a position locked down?

From the reports Morse can't even snap the ball and ROFL Fulton was shit last year. You're right he can only get better!

Agreed he's good depth but not a starter.

If he does not, I believe I was the first to suggest it.

I think the dude's gonna get cut and we'll hit the camp cuts for a swing tackle. He's just doing nothing to keep a job on this team.

Really, we should probably just sign Anthony Collins and call it a day at this point.

Certainly didn't overreact last year.

Shitty line was shitty.

What reports?

KC star

Nothing I ever say will top your thread demanding everyone apologize to clay. And exactly what football points have I made that are completely wrong. This should be good.

He's gone full Clay. Let him and Discuss Thrower hang themselves with their shoelaces so they can catch a ride on the magic saucer hiding behind the moon.

You'll feel less dirty this way.

I buried that argument long ago, and milkman still enjoys taking random potshots at me, even though it was largely a stalemate.

I think he's just looking for something to do until the Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune hour comes up.

That's not exactly ground breaking.

That's alright. Allen has lied good in blocking drills, and is consistent in picking up pressure/stunts.

I'd tell you to kiss my ass, but I'm sure that your head is wedged so far up your own ass that you would be physically incapable of doing that.

The fact that Morse is apparently pushing Kush to 2nd string tells us that you were wrong about Kush being just fine.

The fact that Fulton might be starting, with an inexperienced center, tells us that we are not fine at guard, because Fulton's crash post talent will be exposed.

The fact that Stephenson has been relegated to 2nd team tells us you were wrong about that, as well.

You have been wrong about all of it, you useless ****ing pussy.

Lulz! Love it.

You build your house on sand...

As bad as Stephenson is, Derek Sherrod is now running with the 3rd team at OT.

So that leaves us with... Jarrod Pughsley?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sit...herwax_a_p.jpg

Yeah I don't know. I'd like to sign Mathis keep Allen at right tackle even if he sucks the line could be manageable with 2 stud guards and hopefully an improved Fisher.

I actually like SNR, but his total dipshittery on this subject pissed me off, so I am poking that bear.

First of all you should get a sense of humor and a clue.

Second of all the Allen love is just blind homerism. He wasn't great last camp and as I pointed out the line improved without him in 13'.

The thing I've seen mentioned several times on here is Allen will be good because he went to a ****ing summer camp. I mean give me a break.

I don't even get the reference the but the name is an uncomfortable and fitting match to the pic...

When did I ever say, "Kush is fine! Don't find any competition for him, because he's got this ****er nailed down pat!" And besides that, we don't even ****ing know if this is Andy Reid's Week 1 regular season offensive line. I said I wanted to see either a mid-round draft pick or some kind of cheap veteran come in to challenge him.

The Fulton thing is just you gushing out your vagina some more. It was a fair competition with FOUR mother****ers competing, and Fulton appears to have come out on top fair and square. He won the job. How is that in any way a check against what I said about three ****ing vets with starting experience, Dr. Escargot, and a 2nd round pick being enough competition for one interior ****ing line position? Wait until they play the ****ing preseason games at least for ****'s sake.

And I was NOT wrong about Stephenson, you flaming bag of dicks. I said all ****ing offseason that we needed OT depth to challenge him. The only thing I said was that between Allen and Stephenson, I was pretty sure we'd find a starter better than Ryan Harris. And you'll see that I'm DEFINITELY right about that in Week 2, when Allen should be adequate and Ryan Harris will get his shit blown up playing for the Donks.

I don't think Fulton won shit.

He's the failsafe because Allen was forced to move to RT because Stephenson is a big bag of ass.

And Morse has to play center because Kush is a failure and we literally have NOBODY ELSE.

Pugsley. From the Addams Family.

I think I honestly have to agree with him on this.

I'm sure they were hoping that Stephenson would earn the starting RT job so that Allen could play RG. When Stephenson failed to do that....they had no other choice but to move Allen to RT and put Fulton back in the lineup at RG.

He's my "surprise" cut. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him not make the roster.

Go ahead, spin it however the hell you want.

You argued with me all offseason whenever I expressed concern about the line.

You argued with me when I said that I didn't believe that Kush was any good.
You argued with me whenever I said I was concerned about Stephenson.
You argued with me when I expressed concerns about guard, and specifically when I expressed concerns about Fulton starting.

Why is he stimulating himself with the tail of a reptile?

I can't imagine that was normal 50's TV...

Reid announces starting Oline for 1st preseason game
 

I agree with this. I just didn't see Fulton as the problem. The left guard was aids. As was the right tackle.

If that's the case I really wonder why they don't pay Mathis

No.

I...was I on crack or was Fulton a RG?

I can't say I was the first to suggest that he might be cut, but I and Laz have expressed concerns about Stephenson all offseason.

The really amazing thing is that Laz and I found ourselves on the same side on any subject.

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Eh?

I really hate my phone.

Corrected. I saw the lg, and rt as aids. I thought Fulton was average with a chance to improve.

Wouldn't mind bringing him in with this state of the online.

How much better does the oline look with Mathis.

I don't know exactly what this means but I'm buying a kevlar helmet and turtle butter...

I think Fulton is really close to his ceiling because he is athletically a crash post.

I'm hoping that Mathis is a veteran that doesn't really want to go to TC and Reid knows him well enough that they are just waiting. The day TC breaks up we sign Mathis and our starting RG becomes our backup.

I like it!

That's fair. Not even improved technique can save him huh?

He was a creepy ass kid for sure.

Fisher - Grubbs - Morse - Mathis - Allen

It looks much better.

You said the line could get worse because Rodney Hudson was a huge loss.

I said that was highly doubtful because there were too many permutations of players that would safeguard against the line being worse than last year. Also, no McGlynns and Linkenbachs.

I never once argued with you about specific players, only that I believed we had adequate competition at RG, and that one of Allen/Stephenson would be an upgrade over Ryan Harris.

If you still are hot and bothered by my supposed dumbassery, then go find the posts of mine that contradict any of the statements I said in the above paragraphs.

I'll make life easy for you and give you a hint: those posts don't exist. You should spend your time more wisely by hitting up the Bingo palace or mowing your lawn for the 3rd time today.

He's already pretty sound technically.

I'm guessing that too, or that the Chiefs as in Reid know what they would have in Mathis and wanted looks at these other trash bags.