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MTG#10 08-12-2015 08:32 AM

Does Plex just suck or am I doing something wrong?
 
So after hearing about how great it was for years I finally decided to set up a Plex account. Ive successfully added my own libraries and can stream whats on my main computer everywhere in my house. This is great but I got curious about all the free channels I always hear about so decided to try them out.

After a quick google search I think Ive added the most popular ones. Im sure there are a lot more and maybe better ones but right now I have:

-Ice Films
-Let Me Watch This
-SS Plex
And all the channels that come with the Unsupported Appstore Bundle.

So far after trying all the channels I have Ive successfully started maybe three shows/movies after trying at least 60-70. Most of them wouldn't play at all, saying "Channel is not responding", and some would open a popup to a youtube trailer for what I was trying to watch.

So does Plex just suck now for channels or am I doing something wrong?

Rausch 08-12-2015 09:56 AM

I use a (2011) imac and Roku.

It works great for me. Keep in mind you have to both have Plex active in your browser AND run the application at the same time.

Fish 08-12-2015 10:11 AM

Plex works well with your own media collection. The streaming channels, not so much.

MTG#10 08-12-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 11655281)
Plex works well with your own media collection. The streaming channels, not so much.

This is what Ive experienced. So why does everyone rave about cutting the cord and using Plex to watch the channels they like? Did it used to work great but recently stopped or what? I still feel like I may be doing something wrong, like maybe using xmbc or something like that? Ive read about something along those lines somewhere but I dont know anything about it. It looks super confusing though.

Fish 08-12-2015 11:15 AM

There are essentially two methods of going about getting media after cutting the cord. You can download all the movies/TV to your computer, and watch them from your own computer. Or you can simply stream them over the internet, and the media is hosted on a variety of servers all over the world. Plex is good for the former, especially in conjunction with auto-scraping/downloading apps like CouchPotato/Sickbeard. But if you don't physically download all your media, it's not nearly as useful. If you would prefer to simply stream your media, then what you want is KODI/XBMC.

DC.chief 08-12-2015 11:29 AM

Kodi/xbmc is a complete game changer

bishop_74 08-12-2015 12:01 PM

Not sure who would ever recommend PLEX for rebroadcasting streaming... but don't. You want a local app on the Roku or whatever to stream your other stuff. Use something like Sling TV

Buck 08-12-2015 12:17 PM

Plex is amazing for me using a Roku. I only stream my own files though.

MTG#10 08-12-2015 01:25 PM

Ok, so I set up Kodi and a "package" (dont know the correct terminology) from tvaddons.org. I now have a lot of channels, but like Plex more than half of them dont work and the ones that do arent too great quality wise. This shit is confusing as hell and im limited to channels that are shown on Youtube videos because I have no clue how to find/install channels myself.

EDIT: I just opened a channel?...called phoenix that is supposedly very popular and chose sports. I tried opening ESPN, ESPN2, Fox Sports 1 & 2, and NBCSN...every one failed to open, it just says working for a while then nothing happens. If this is the crap the cord cutters rave about I think I'd rather just pay for cable/satellite...

Fish 08-12-2015 01:46 PM

Sounds like cable/satellite might be a better solution for you.

NewChief 08-12-2015 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 11655785)
Ok, so I set up Kodi and a "package" (dont know the correct terminology) from tvaddons.org. I now have a lot of channels, but like Plex more than half of them dont work and the ones that do arent too great quality wise. This shit is confusing as hell and im limited to channels that are shown on Youtube videos because I have no clue how to find/install channels myself.

EDIT: I just opened a channel?...called phoenix that is supposedly very popular and chose sports. I tried opening ESPN, ESPN2, Fox Sports 1 & 2, and NBCSN...every one failed to open, it just says working for a while then nothing happens. If this is the crap the cord cutters rave about I think I'd rather just pay for cable/satellite...

Phoenix sucks ass. You want Genesis for shows and movies. 1Channel is also decent.

If you want to watch live TV, your best bet is USTVNow and/or a digital antennae.

And honestly, I'm kind of with Fish. It seems like your patience with and understanding of technology might not be real high. I mean, thinking that people are "raving" about similar experiences to yours is kind of ridiculous. Clearly, you haven't set things up properly, so you need to start troubleshooting instead of getting on here and sending out generic rants. If you don't want to go to the bother of troubleshooting, then this level of technology probably isn't for you.

ragedogg69 08-12-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11655891)
And honestly, I'm kind of with Fish. It seems like your patience with and understanding of technology might not be real high. I mean, thinking that people are "raving" about similar experiences to yours is kind of ridiculous. Clearly, you haven't set things up properly, so you need to start troubleshooting instead of getting on here and sending out generic rants. If you don't want to go to the bother of troubleshooting, then this level of technology probably isn't for you.

I thought this was harsh. THen I reread his edit. It really sounds like even SlingTV would not be a good fit. If you want 99.9% reliability, you are gonna have to pay for it. If you want free... shit is not always gonna work.

NewChief 08-12-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ragedogg69 (Post 11656040)
I thought this was harsh. THen I reread his edit. It really sounds like even SlingTV would not be a good fit. If you want 99.9% reliability, you are gonna have to pay for it. If you want free... shit is not always gonna work.

The thing that annoys me is that he's aware that XBMC is extremely popular and that people rave about it. That millions of people use it to great satisfaction. Despite that, he then extrapolates his very limited experience with the platform as the user experience that all of those people must be having.

There's two ways to think of it:

1. Yeah. Millions of people over years of development are quite content to just use a really shitty platform that doesn't deliver at all.

2. Maybe those people know what they're doing, and I don't. Therefore I should figure out how to make this thing work by troubleshooting instead of just assuming that the platform sucks.

Clearly, one of these ways of thinking is narcissistic and delusional whereas the other is logical.

DaFace 08-12-2015 04:53 PM

I use Plex 1) for streaming media from my server to my Roku and 2) being a conduit to let me get NFL Game Pass on my Roku (which doesn't have an official app). The Game Pass thing works great for what it is, but otherwise I haven't found much else attractive about other "apps" for Plex.

MTG#10 08-12-2015 05:29 PM

Ive gotten Kodi to work fine for TV shows and movies. What I cant get it to do is stream live TV channels. Ive been messing around with it all day, watched probably 15 Youtube vids and tried different tutorials. I have the live channels, they just wont play anything. I actually did get one NBC Sports channel to play but that's it. None of the ESPN, Fox Sports or CBS stations will load.

I see the usefulness of it if you just want to watch already aired TV shows and movies. But if this is as good as it gets for live TV I dont think cord cutting is a real option unless you dont need or want it.

NewChief 08-12-2015 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 11656143)
Ive gotten Kodi to work fine for TV shows and movies. What I cant get it to do is stream live TV channels. Ive been messing around with it all day, watched probably 15 Youtube vids and tried different tutorials. I have the live channels, they just wont play anything. I actually did get one NBC Sports channel to play but that's it. None of the ESPN, Fox Sports or CBS stations will load.

I see the usefulness of it if you just want to watch already aired TV shows and movies. But if this is as good as it gets for live TV I dont think cord cutting is a real option unless you dont need or want it.

It sucks for live TV outside of USTVNow. Get a digital antennae for local stations. For sports, check out the Sportsdevil addon.

Fish 08-12-2015 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 11656143)
Ive gotten Kodi to work fine for TV shows and movies. What I cant get it to do is stream live TV channels. Ive been messing around with it all day, watched probably 15 Youtube vids and tried different tutorials. I have the live channels, they just wont play anything. I actually did get one NBC Sports channel to play but that's it. None of the ESPN, Fox Sports or CBS stations will load.

I see the usefulness of it if you just want to watch already aired TV shows and movies. But if this is as good as it gets for live TV I dont think cord cutting is a real option unless you dont need or want it.

Live streams will not be both reliable/high quality and free on a consistent basis. That's just the nature of the beast. The biggest hurdle to overcome with cutting the cord is live TV. If you absolutely require that, then you need to stick with cable/satellite because you will not find a free HD source for all live TV at this time. You can pay for reliable live TV cable with accounts like USTVNow, but that's a monthly payment. If you're expecting to cut the cord and completely replace live TV watching with free online streams, you're going to be very disappointed.

MTG#10 08-12-2015 09:51 PM

I guess I was going in with too high of expectations. I dont know if I misread something or heard someone say it but I was under the impression you could stream pretty much any channel for free. Oh well, its still pretty cool. Now if I could only figure out a way to cast it from my PC in my bedroom to my Chromecast I'll be in business. I can cast Plex just fine though.

Shaid 08-12-2015 11:21 PM

I really love Plex for my own content. It has a really nice interface. I'm not a fan of the streaming channels. I've been using Cartoon HD for all my streaming and chromecast it through the Localcast app. Super easy.

A lot of people also use the Showbox app but that has been buggy lately. I love it when it works.

Silock 08-12-2015 11:25 PM

I dislike Plex.

ragedogg69 08-15-2015 11:17 AM

So I got bored today and was messing around with the TVMC addons that come preinstalled. Cliq had ESPN2, FS1 and FS2 in 720p and ESPN in SD. SportsDevil is even keeping updated, but you have to install it manually from tvaddon.ag.

Kodi works fine for free shit, you have to be patient and look for them.

Demonpenz 08-15-2015 12:37 PM

I have cut the cord for a couple years and saved enough money to invest it. Plex is awesome with your own content, but you would be better off going to buffalo wild wings if you want to watch sports.

Buck 08-16-2015 02:45 AM

I installed the unsupported channels plugin and IceFilms and Let Me Watch This work fine on my PC but not Roku. SS Plex works fine on the Roku though, but I have to search through different sources for each show I want to watch. One source (vidzi.tv I think?) always works for me so far. This is great.

Buck 08-16-2015 02:48 AM

Is there any way to route my NFL Game Pass subscription through my Plex without having to have my entire home network connected on a VPN in Turkey though?

hometeam 08-16-2015 08:54 AM

Meh, I just use chrome and one single website to watch every show I want, and get live sports streams from the appropriate subreddit.

DaFace 08-16-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 11663017)
Is there any way to route my NFL Game Pass subscription through my Plex without having to have my entire home network connected on a VPN in Turkey though?

A smart DNS (like AdFreeTime) will do it as well if you set it up on your router.


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