Westport is trying to kill itself
 

http://www.tonyskansascity.com/2015/...ee-in.html?m=1

$5 just to enter Westport. What a stupid idea.

I don't understand how that cuts down on violence. It's just a moneygrab.

how is that legal? There are public streets and spaces.

I've wondered the same.

They used to charge $1 or $2 to get in there about 10 years ago. They would also let you drink outside as long as you were within the gates.

Meh. I doubt I'll be there much even though I'm living on State Line.

How many posts in the comment section in that link are from CP people?

Yeah I remember that. 5 bucks and you have to pay with a card is absurd. They did that at PNL to keep black kids away and I'd imagine that's why they are doing it in Westport.

I think it's great. It keeps the underage kids away and the people who are just looking to cause trouble out. $5 isn't bad...maybe a little steeper than it needs to be. Then again, I love being able to have open containers.

Nice comments on that site. Racism clearly still dead.

This is stupid. People will simply arrive earlier to avoid the fee.

There's so many other options in the city. I find myself going to Westport less and less as it is. This will guarantee I don't go.

Eh, most of the idiots who post racist crap like that never leave Belton anyway.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH BELTON GEORGE JUST WENT ON YOU SON

independence vs belton

wt smackdown

I am just going to take my broke ass down to the plaza to cause trouble for my entertainment.

Raytown laughs at your minor league smackdown.

If I had 5 cash on me, maybe, but I'm not running my card and going through the trouble of convincing some drunk slut I'm not like the rest...I mean, just to hit last call at Buzzard Beach.

How WOULDN'T it?

of course it will cut done on violence

people won't just wander around if they will have to pay to get in, that cuts down on the number of people and leads to less potential violence. Unless you have money to spend you aren't going down there.

open container on the street might increase the potential violence though LMAO

Be honest though. If you really want to beat a particular person's ass, is $5 all that much money in the grand scheme of things?

They are obviously trying to keep out people who don't have any money to spend.

C'mon now pretty much everyone in America can scratch up $5 if they're really motivated.

have you ever been down to westport? The people who it is keeping out is shit for brain people who can't get or let alone keep 5 dollars.

I would not pay an extra $5 to go get a Murray's Ice Cream! The only reason I would go to Westport in the first place.

$5 basically is a small commitment. Lots of troublemakers won't want to "roll" through if they all in the group have to pay $5, at least one of them would be like. It's a small commitment in time, and alot of the troublemakers aren't the ones spending an entire night down there.

Honestly, I've been out of the past-midnight-on-a-weekend-in-Westport game for a bit.

What's the cause for the recent spike in violence?

I don't know at 11 PM my Social I.Q. tells me to leave. Took me decades worth of fights to figure out thats when people get drunk and angry. Also it could be buzzard doesn't have popcorn anymore.

I know lots of people have been pissed that Dr. Dude pinball has been out of order.

Of course, after I already got herpes.

When they took the football toss game out of the top of Harpo's I knew it was all downhill from there.

If you want an adventure, just wear flip flops and use the bathroom at Harpo's.

You're much more likey to see fights in packed bars than outside where there is room to manuever.

Place is a ****ing sauna of piss down there.

KC could learn a thing or two about bar fighting from their friends to the north in St. Joe.

Seriously, in like five years of living down here I've seen as many bar fights as you would in one weekend after MMA fights at Civic Arena in St. Joe. Step you bar fight game up, KC.

Did see a Mexican dude get stabbed in the gut outside of The Point a few summers back, so that was exciting, but really KC registers pretty low on the Roadhouse Scale.

Stabbings are becoming an occurrence in downtown Springfield.

The Metallica pinball machine they have upstairs is awesome.

Reason #35,694 to not go to Westport for nightlife.

What was that place next door to buzzard beach? The last time I spent much time in Westport (ten years ago or so) the fight game was always strong there.

HOW NICE

Have a Nice Day Cafe

Summer.

We hear of violence at Westport and the Plaza, are there a lot of issues at P&L? I rarely go there so don't know, but you don't hear stories coming out like in the other places.

I'll just stick to Martini Corner and West 39th.

Ah, I read the article as this was a recent thing, something other than just your every year uptick in hot weather violence.

Heh I live down the street from The Pointe. First month living there I was sitting on my porch and heard gun shots at The Pointe. That place is hood.

Crime is actually down this summer

My buddy lived at 45 Madison for a couple of years back from 2011-2013. I was at The Point quite a bit. It wasn't a bad spot. Your occasional fight or whatnot. Then I think sometime in Summer 2013 they changed their happy hour time and lowered their drink prices across the board and I quit going shortly after. Definitely attracted a fun new element.

Yeah Fri Sat 9-11 all you can drink 15 bucks. Fun times!

I thought it was 7-9.

Rhythm & Booze has a similar (better) deal - $20 for unlimited beer and wells from 7-11. I tried that once and was in rare form by the time I left, errr...was carried out.

I don't really have a huge problem with this, but I'd rather them set up "bouncers" and screen people before going in. They'll probably be doing that with this idea, but adding in the $5 entry as well. I think it's a good deal if I can carry my drinks from bar-to-bar ala Power and Light.

When I've asked you assholes on places to visit in KC, Westport is always mentioned. Now you're telling me they're having to charge an entry fee to keep violence down?

If you've ever lived in any decent sized metro area, Westport is nothing to be afraid of.

i dunno why anybody would be opposed to this. 5 dollars is nothing and it keeps the trash out who dont have 5 dollars

because we don't want you to come, stay in your RV park

Sounds great.

I have no problem with this...though it's not like there has been a bunch of violence just too many people...a lot of it because the area is thriving as are others.

I honestly don't understand and have not experienced this "violence" people talk about in KC aside from the very obvious problem spots out east. It's usually perpetuated by people who don't actually spend time in KC and don't know what they are talking about or at the very least have outdated perceptions of what KC is.

I lived on 44th and Jefferson for years. You're telling me you think an intersection right down the street from a complex full of retirees....between the Plaza and Westport is hood?

Come on now.

No, they are just trying to get rid of people like you.

Owners didn't want to foot the bill for security for 100s of people outside of their business not spending money.

Westport is fun on the weekdays, but a bit trashy on the weekends

I don't go down there very often anymore, but it seems like it has gotten worse the past couple years in terms of fights and just general douchebaggery

I hate Harpos and there is always shit going down by Gusto

^^^^^

Been working quite a bit in Westport.

Looks like the city told Westport they can't do this.

I'm not sure what retirement complex you're talking about. There's a drug house on the corner of 44th and Jarboe and plenty of stories about shootings/stabbings at the Pointe. Are you really going to argue this?

It's cute you stalk me in everything now.

You're not sure about the assisted living community that takes up almost an entire block in the exact area we are talking about?

When I lived there right down the street from The Pointe there were old people hanging out on benches and going for walks around the block. Soooooo hood. LMAOLMAO
https://www.bishopspencerplace.org
http://i.imgur.com/LnKnsP8.jpg

I'm talking about the neighborhood west of there you fat goober.

Also....there are drug houses everywhere....everywhere. Things happen...crime happens. That doesn't make some place hood (whatever that actually means) or really unsafe it means it exists in the real world.

Here comes Zach the guy who moved out of KC because its too dangerous to tell us how it's not dangerous.

You said The Pointe was hood. The one right next to old people enjoying their Sunday's hanging out on benches.

You're a pussy.

I have literally no idea what you are talking about. I live in midtown right now and have lived in two spots between plaza and Westport the same exact area you are trying to convince me is so scary.

Honest question. Where did you get the idea that I moved away from the area because of danger? I am curious.

They should charge $5 to enter.

DJ used to live at 44th and Pennsylvania, but he just couldn't handle the hood.

LMAO

$5.00 to stand on the streets in the heat. Sounds like a tax for stoopid people.

I love Westport and have never felt threatened, entry fee or not. I do like when they gate off the area and you can just roam around.

You've never been to the pointe so you don't know what you're talking about.

The Point was Plaza pussy heaven when I worked at that Berbiglia on Bellevue in the late 90's. I think it was called something different though, something similar.

Yeah I'm such a pussy I walk all over the city because I'm scared.

The Pointe is hood. It's hood because it attracts people from the hood (east Kansas city). These people from the hood do hood things. Like bust their guns and act ignorant at the Pointe. Just because there's a retirment home nearby doesn't mean shit. There's a church not far from America's Pub. That didn't stop people from wild in.

Smh, Johnson county needs a nightlife scene. Seems like there isn't a hot spot over here. Boring.

Hey guys shit gets REAL west of Bellview. Grab your bullet proof vest because the Plaza is right down the street.

Yeah, the New Pointe.

Sure sweetheart.

LMAO

Dude, I was born and raised in this city. I was in Westport before your balls dropped.

Just because you've gone on binges in the 'port, doesn't mean you're an expert....