Demaryius Thomas signs long term deal
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Denver and Demaryius Thomas reach agreement on matching 5-year, $70 million deal that includes $43.5M GTD, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/621402777525338112">July 15, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Maybe the NFLPA has something here...

Cheaper than Dez's contract. God Damn Elway is good at his job.

Considering the contracts are almost exactly the same and Dez is the better player, I'd say Stephen Jones outdid Elway here.

Dez a year younger

Shhhhh....just let it happen.

I can't wait until fivehead retires at the end of this year after another failed playoff run, and thomas has to start catching ducks from asswiper. Then we'll see if he can live up to that contract

Looks like collusion to me.

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but it seriously does.

**** both of these franchises and all of their fans.

He's good at cheating.

You basically just signed the inferior, older player to the same contract.

Not sarcasm. Cheaters are cheaters. NFLPA should still launch an investigation.

Since Demaryius has been rid of Tebow Time, he hasn't put up less than 1400 yards in a season.

Dez has never had a single 1400 yard saeson.

Peyton Manning>Tony Romo.

Dez still shits on him in TDs. Yards are overrated.

Dez catches balls from romo, so yeah. After this year, thomas won't have a HOF'ER throwing the ball to him. His production will fall dramatically next season

Guys with 3 consecutive 1400 yard seasons:

Jerry Rice
Marvin Harrison
Calvin Johnson
Demaryius Thomas

With the exception of CJ (and the book is still being written on that one) They all have had hall of famer's throwing the ball to them. The only way he even sniffs that kind of productionin 2016 is if he's traded to another team with that kind of QB. Let's face it, without manning, thomas is average at best

D. Thomas runs like 3 routes

Uh... sure. Harrison and Rice really weren't all that good.

LMAO....really? Average at best?

I didn't say that, dumbass. What I said was, his production will go down because he won't have the same quality QB throwing to him. Do you think that JR and JH would have had the same numbers if they had dilfer, cassel etc. throwing the ball to them?

This narrative is reeruned and comes from his college offense. Actually watch the guy play sometime instead of spouting out BS you heard 5 years ago.

40 year old Rice was still putting up 1100, 1200 yard seasons with Gannon throwing to him, so yeah, I think he would have done pretty well no matter who was his QB.

I do doubt that... uh... Justin Houston?... would have 1400 yards if Dilfer or Cassel threw the ball to him.

Honestly I'm not too worried about the QB play in Denver. Elway has shown that getting A+ quarterbacking is pretty much his #1 priority, unlike the GMs of other teams.

Demaryius Thomas has a combined 834 yards and 6 TD's in 2 years without Peyton Manning.

Manning is clearly helping his numbers and when he's gone he won't be a 1,400 consistent yard WR.

So you think gannon was bad? ROFL He could flat out sling the ball, especially in his years with the faid. He wasn't a hof'er, but he didn't suck either

He started 7 total games in those 2 years, and the QB was Tebow.

No he hasn't actually. There won't be a Peyton Manning available next year in free agency.
Elway will have to draft one, or rely on Assweiler.

Yeah, that's the point, since that was your original argument.

And he won't have Manning or anyone close to him after this season.

Are you trying to say that 834 yards and 6 TDs in 7 games is bad?

Also, you can throw in the 204 yard, 1 TD playoff game he had with Tebow.

My bad, let me be more specific. He'll have a slapdick like asswiper throwing to him. Better?

Not going to argue.

Demarius is damn good with Peyton, and we will find out how good he is with an average QB soon!

Demaryius Thomas is a very good receiver. He's tall, heavy, strong, and fast as shit. It's tough to actually gauge his true ability with Peyton Manning throwing him the ball, though. It's essentially a foregone conclusion that the #1 WR in a Peyton Manning-led offense will rack up 1,400 yards and double digit TDs.

He's not as good as Dez Bryant. Not many outside of Denver would disagree with that statement.

Assuming full health, a list of WRs better than Demaryius Thomas:

Calvin Johnson
Antonio Brown
Dez Bryant
Julio Jones
AJ Green

Those guys would make up my tier 1 of WRs.

Demaryius Thomas would be in tier 2 with guys like Jordy Nelson, Brandon Marshall, etc.

Right, because manning makes average players great. As much as I hate to admit it, pizzaface is a pretty good QB. He could have been one of the elite, but his failures in post season will always be his greatest shortcoming

That's not true. In Indianapolis, it happened 5 times (4 Harrison, 1 Wayne) in 13 years (38% of the time).

In Denver, it's happened 3 times in 3 years. 100% of the time, and it's all been Demaryius.

He caught a game winning TD pass, in overtime of a playoff game, against the Pittsburgh Steelers...from Tim Tebow. I think Thomas will be just fine.

Half of the seasons Peyton's played, he's had a guy go over 1,400 yards with double digit TDs..

Hyperbole aside, I think your post actually strengthens my argument. Especially when you consider that Peyton's time in Denver makes up three of his top four highest season attempts.

I understand Calvin, and I get your reasoning that TDs>Yards for Dez, but for any of the others...

Why?

Uh... no, a jump from 38% to 100% definitely does not strengthen your argument that it's all Peyton.

No matter what stats MagicHef chooses to bring out, Demaryius Thomas is not going to be the weapon he is with Manning when Manning leaves.

Yeeaahhhh...bullshit. He excels in the screen game and is a threat to score anytime he touches the ball. Keep thinking it's all Peyton though.

Because expecting a QB to produce a WR with 1,400 yards and double digit touchdowns in the first few seasons to start his career is totally unrealistic. Even Andrew Luck and Dan Marino, who have had the best statistical starts to their career of any in league history, couldn't do it in their first handful of years.

Plus I basically just told you as good as guys like Jordy Nelson and Brandon Marshall. I don't think that's claiming it's "all Peyton".

That's based on the eye test. Simply saying "he has more yards than the other guys" doesn't account for all the variables.

Pierre Garçon went from Peyton to RGIII and broke team receiving records his first year in DC. Peyton did that too though right?

First year in DC? Maybe you meant 2nd?

44 catches for 633 yards and 4 TDs.

I honestly don't know what you're talking about now. Harrison did it in 1999, Peyton's second year. It's not because Peyton couldn't do it "in the first few seasons to start his career."

Oh and that record breaking year in his 2nd season in Washington might have something to do with his 184 targets that year. His closest year with Peyton was 119 targets.

Ok?

Pierre Garcon is a pretty good WR. What are you debating?

He didn't have great stats with Peyton for a few reasons. He had a rookie season in which he was the fourth option behind Wayne, Harrison and Clark, a sophomore season, and his third after which Peyton was literally cut.

Every dog get's a bone sometime. No one on the steelers staff or team expected that from tboner, which is why it worked that ONE time.

Since then his stats have been padded by having manning throwing the ball to him. I stand by my statement that as soon as manning is gone, thomas will become either average or slightly above average. No way he keeps up this pace

The key to evaluating this one will be when Manning retires. Until then, it's tough to say. It's a lot of money for a WR, but I can't say I wouldn't like to have him on the Chiefs...

Shit, he did. Wow, Peyton is a ****ing beast.

Yards are still overrated. Thomas has put up some monster stats. #1 targets of HOF QBs tend to do that.

Even Emmanuel Sanders broke 1,400 yards last season.

DemT is as good a YAC receiver as there is in the game today.

This thread has gone all kinds of stupid. People belittling Thomas?


Morons.

Ditto !

I would love to have Thomas in KC. Don't understand the hate.

Dumb argument, be happy we still have Justin Houston and regarding Thomas let the chips fall where they may...

Demaryius is good, sure. But I think Emmanuel is a better receiver, for real.

Demaryius Thomas is the worst wide receiver of all time.

It was a little dink pass from Tebow that Thomas turned into a TD. He has shown the ability to do that consistently.The only weak points in Thomas' game are that he doesn't always fight for the ball and that he's streaky. He'll be a substantial asset regardless of the QB and he has shown that on the field. If the Broncos pass a lot, he'll have an impressive stat line. If the Broncos don't pass a lot, he'll have a decent stat line and it will still be obvious that he is well above average to anyone who watches him play.

You could make a really good argument for it.

I was so mad when he spurned us.

Nothing without Manning

He's right you sack of Shit

you are seriously high. DT is a tier 1 WR and there's really no denying it. Unless you live in kc land where up is down and your QB can't throw on td pass to a WR.

Dude is definitely tier two at best. Manning has been making chicken salad out of chicken shit his whole career. Even making a slightly above average Tremens a lot of coin.

well, he's not as good as Doug Baldwin because chiefs.

Dude gets a ton of yards off illegal bubble screens

What's up TRJ? Have you met PGM?

It's the Peyton Manning effect. Don't be so butthurt. Tier 2 is good company.

you are butthurt my friend, not me. I know DT is a tier one WR and I also know that 32 other teams front offices in the NFL would agree with me, including kc. You can deny it all you want but it doesn't make it true.

because chiefs

Doncs window of opportunity is over. Just embrace it.

well it's better than kc's window which is never open.

Future is bright in KC...get used to it

It's July and every July... chiefs win!

No they win because they are loaded this year. Ascending team.

just like last July, and the July before that, and the July before that... this song and dance never gets old. KC fan proclaims greatness and talent of their team in July, August but can't seem to remember zero playoff wins in 20+ years.

I hope you have enjoyed the Manning era because the door is about to slam shut.

Next year you guys will cut Manning, Clady and probably Talib to make room to get Miller and a few other guys signed.

Better hope draft picks pan out

some of us agree with you...a DT type of receiver would make Smith look good.