Per Schefter: Chiefs tag Houston
 

More to come...

Now gut the cap and get him a new deal.

hmm

Kind of odd they didn't talk to the last minute with him like they did Bowe.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>A league source tells me Houston is not expected to sign his franchise tender at the moment.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/572407744071897088">March 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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****ing great!!

Why would he? This will be his only chance to skip camp.

I don't expect him to sign it till week 3 of preseason

Going to go through the same shit next offseason with Poe because Dorsey is incapable of getting shit done.

Jamaal says hi.

It takes 2 for a deal to get done.

Not much to see here, of course we tagged him.

Yes, that's true. I'm just not too keen on giving Dorsey the benefit of the doubt after the amount of starters he let walk last offseason. We're also a week from free agency and the only quality starter on our OL is without a contract. But hey, let's throw the bank at an average at best quarterback.

As literally one of the worst franchises in the NFL over the last 40+ years, I'm always shocked and surprised when our guys don't bend over backwards to give us hometown discounts.

They were mediocre starters (save Albert), and worth offloading to convert into Comp. picks. We didn't even drop off that much last year, except our receivers and Guard positions. ILB doesn't count due to injury.

I'm pretty happy with how it worked out, and will be even more happy when we get the extra picks.

Fully expect Poe to get the 5th year option

No1curr

Like I said, Chiefs don't like talent. That's why we've always been mediocre.

Talent is expensive...

Hunt doesn't like expensive

Means nothing. He has the option to skip TC.

I'm no fan of the man, but this is stupid, considering Bowe and AS' contracts.

:facepalm:

This should be the official Panties in a Twist thread.

11th best franchise but don't let that ruin your rant. :doh!:

At what?...

Here comes the first truck of sand to dump into CP's vagina.

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winning pct-cold hard football facts(goggle)

He will get signed long term. This just buys them more time

Isn't a single goggle a monocle?

Well bye bye Hudson hello Kush. That what I see this means. I was hope they could get a deal done on Houston and tag Hudson.

The point isn't to win games - it's to win the super bowl...

You guys crack me up !

Dorsey suck / OK let's bring Pioli back.

Alex Smith was a mistake / Ok we should have kept Cassel and drafted Geno.

If only Romeo was still here. we'd have already crashed 3 or 4 planes into Arrowhead by now trying to drag all the banners around.

Chiefs have to slice 6.5 mil by March 10 in order to get Houston under contract

Actually, the opposite. The Chiefs will want to give him a new contract so they can better gut their 2015 cap. Signing Houston long term will save us a shitload of 2015 cap space if we are to believe he's here no matter what.

I've never heard anyone on here say either of those two things.

Anyone who did should be drowned in a tank of boar semen...

True. True.

Hate to bother you, but I don't have Google on my internet and I'm curious, where do we rank in playoff wins over the last 2 decades?

Alright, Chicken Littles. Is this that hard to understand? It's all posturing.

Houston's agent is not going to let him sign anything now. His leverage is at its greatest just before or during training camp. Of course the Chiefs tagged him. Of course he's going to delay signing it. He may participate in offseason activities anyway or he may not. It's all posturing.

He will be in uniform this year, they aren't going to let the most talented player on defense sit a year or just walk away. Pioli is gone.

If they paid Bowe, they are surely not going to let someone who's actually integral to the team's fortunes get away.

Nobody has ever said Dorsey sucks and Alex Smith was a mistake ???????????????

No one has said we should have kept Ca$$hole or gone back to Pioli...

There is no reason to pay Rodney Hudson top five money, let alone make him the highest paid center. He's very good, but that's just an utterly replaceable position.

It's the middle linebacker of the offense. Important, sure, but most of the time you find a starter in the second round or below.

Elite pass rusher, however...

Add to it that Justin Houston gave us monstrous production while playing on a third rounder salary. Chiefs will have to break the bank. Period.

You know it is hilarious. We all expected this.
But all the sudden the same group of haters are all offended and shit.
You guys are really good for a laugh. You are some ridiculous people.

Priority 1) Houston
Priority 2) Hudson
Priority 3) Anyone else...

Eh. Throwing ****fits is a lot more fun than waiting and seeing what happens. And when Dorsey gets Houston signed to a long-term deal, it'll just be "About time he got something right!"

2015 we will have like 3 Pioli draft picks as contributors on the WHOLE TEAM

4 years and 3 picks left on the roster that make any impact for the franchise. That is sad.

He's filing grievances and holding out until Week 10. **** John Dorsey.

Pioli did a piss-poor job.

At this point Dorsey (in the draft) has been even worse...

Shit it will be all about how bad of a contract it is for the Chiefs. It will be about how they could have gotten Houston to sign a better contract taking a hometown discount and shit.

Don't understand why you all that hate everything that the Chiefs have done and continue to do keep coming back. Are you sure you aren't a bunch of women. Just wanting and looking for any reason to bitch and be all ****ing dramatic.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Per league source, Justin Houston already is considering waiting until Week 10 to sign franchise tender to stay with Chiefs.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/572422705460465665">March 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Justin Houston will consult with NFLPA to decide whether to file grievance on whether he's a DE not an LB, per source.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/572422865355739136">March 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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**** him if he does. Cost himself millions.

He got it right with DJ and Charles. DJ didn't have an injury history so you can't fault him for that.

He didn't with Bowe. Smith is a coin toss - depends on who you ask.

Good move. It's better then losing him to another team.

Non-Exclusive Tag

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I can confirm the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> designated the non-exclusive franchise tag on LB Justin Houston, per source. <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk">@ProFootballTalk</a> reported it first.</p>&mdash; Herbie Teope (@HerbieTeope) <a href="https://twitter.com/HerbieTeope/status/572424904626327552">March 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Before everyone goes ape shit, what if it turns out that he wants Watt money?

Cost the Chiefs millions as well.

:facepalm:

Why wouldn't he deserve it if he puts up Watt numbers?...

Then cut Bowe and give it to him. Enough with this bullshit he's the best player on the team.

I am not giving a LB/DE near-elite QB money.

We don't know the details, that's all I'm saying.


What we do know is that Dorsey could have gave him less a year ago and we would have him wrapped up for the next 3-4 years.


Major mistake.

This...

because it's just not the same

Apparently i am the only person on this board that thinks this.

DE >> LB

even if the sacks numbers are the same, the positional value just isn't

Watt and even Hali's position are just worth more than Houston's


let the outrage begin ..........again :shrug:

How do we know he wasn't asking for the moon last year?

I'd expect that Dorsey tried to get a deal done, but apparently (as rumored at least), Houston wanted huge dollars. Not sure this is all on Dorsey. Houston's gotta play ball too.

Just football business at this point. Ugly for the fans, but that's the deal.

$16M a year average. Absolutely I would give it to him.
So many of you all see that $100M total number and loose the power of your brain. Did you know that $46M of Watts contract is at the end and it is not guaranteed. But after this one year Watt will be costing them between 12 and 13M against the annual cap.

Whut?

Hali is an OLB. We run a 3-4.

A 3-4 DE is NOWHERE near as valuable as a 3-4 OLB. I can't believe you're making this argument...

It couldn't have been anywhere near what he is asking after a billion sack season.



Houston just came off one of the best pass rushing performances in NFL HISTORY.

And this is the part that worries me the most. He might hate Kansas City and want out.



That's probably the answer nobody wants to hear.

Hali lines up and basically plays RDE.

playing the name game doesn't change that

He wants what he's worth.

He's not taking a penny less than he could take anywhere else (and state tax must be included in that equation.)

Because of hindsight we know that. If Houston were to have gotten injured or had a bad season then it would have been what a tool Dorsey is for signing him early.

Injuries happen.


We all knew that Houston is a stud. It should have been taken care of.

Jimmy Graham didn't win that argument either...

Guess we have no idea if Houston wants out of KC or not. I'd expect that the guy mostly wants $$$ and would go anywhere to get it.

Actually, if he's asking for just outrageous money (and I mean outrageous), I'd probably take the two draft picks and let someone else pay said monies. The ONLY position I'd pay outrageous money to would be QB.

I can see it now, we sign Houston to outrageous $$$ and he takes an ACL in London. And why would I expect this? Because....(you know the rest). :banghead:

Is this Donavan or Dorsey that negotiates contracts?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Regarding Justin Houston, the projected franchise player designation pays $14.8 million to defensive ends, $13.2 million to linebackers</p>&mdash; Ed Werder (@Edwerderespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/572426737482539008">March 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> Justin Houston has +104.2 overall grade since coming into NFL in 2011, best of any 3-4 OLB during that span</p>&mdash; Pro Football Focus (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/572408507946967040">March 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Chiefs using franchise tag on Justin Houston

He has 43.0 disrupted dropbacks the last 2 seasons, second to J.J. Watt</p>&mdash; ESPN Stats &amp; Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/572413512343031809">March 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Matthews is the highest paid 3-4 OLB making $13.2 million yr. Watt's avg yearly income is $16.6 million. Robert Quinn's is $14.25 avg.

I would give Houston a $15.5 million avg yearly salary and it give him $20 million gauranteed.
I like how Houston set up Watt's contract and I hope we copy it.
Watt is making $21.96 million this year, BUT his remaining years are as follows:

'16-$12.5 million
'17-$12.5 million
'18-$13 million
'19-$13 million
'20-$15 million
'21-$17.5 million

4 years after his large cap number for the 2015 season he's making less than Clay Mathhews avg.

It's worth paying this guy one year of franchise QB money when you look at those circumstances.

Yep. I would easily give him that and not think twice about it.