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Titty Meat 11-20-2014 08:12 PM

Eric Berry
 
Lol

In58men 11-20-2014 08:14 PM

Garbage

In58men 11-20-2014 08:17 PM

Alex Smith is soft

Great Expectations 11-20-2014 08:20 PM

Let's throw some moar screens

Ceej 11-20-2014 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 11130314)
Let's throw some moar screens

Andy showing confidence in Alex.

ThaVirus 11-20-2014 08:25 PM

We had a heavy set on that play and the guy squirted through with no problem. The entire defense looked bad on that play.

Berry took a horrible angle but how about 94 getting washed out of the gap? Mauga doing who-knows-what?

BullJunkandIron 11-20-2014 08:48 PM

Ken-dick on the field wearing 29.

DaneMcCloud 11-20-2014 08:52 PM

Charles Woodson makes Eric Berry look like a punk ass bitch.

What a waste of $11.6 million dollars.

KCrockaholic 11-20-2014 08:52 PM

That was Mauga's gap, but oh let's cry about Berry.

O.city 11-20-2014 08:55 PM

Berry is playing safety he has to make that play.

I defended him go a while, but he isn't making plays.

stevieray 11-20-2014 08:56 PM

Never been the headhunter since the stevie johnson hit.

DaneMcCloud 11-20-2014 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11131011)
Berry is playing safety he has to make that play.

I defended him go a while, but he isn't making plays.

:thumb:

ToxSocks 11-20-2014 08:58 PM

He needs to make that play. But that play doesn't rest on Berry alone.

ChiefRocka 11-20-2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11131020)
Never been the headhunter since the stevie johnson hit.

yup, career ender. running in slowmo after murray....shame

Captain Obvious 11-20-2014 08:58 PM

He has not played Berry well tonight.

O.city 11-20-2014 09:00 PM

Maybe he's still hirt, I dunno. Just isn't making plays

CoMoChief 11-20-2014 09:47 PM

Dudes playing like greg wesley

and that's not agood thing

Titty Meat 11-21-2014 03:34 PM

I don't know how anyone justifies keeping him around at 11 mil with a cash strapped team.

Pepe Silvia 11-21-2014 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 11135385)
I don't know how anyone justifies keeping him around at 11 mil with a cash strapped team.

You can't, you guys need to cut ties with him and Hali.

Hammock Parties 11-21-2014 03:38 PM

He's more overpaid than Bowe and Hali by far.

RunKC 11-21-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11135391)
You can't, you guys need to cut ties with him and Hali.

I would rather keep Tamba and let Bowe go and collect the $12 million.

Tamba still has a massive effect on the success of this team. He's worth the money next year.

TEX 11-21-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 11135391)
You can't, you guys need to cut ties with him and Hali.


Hopefully Hali will take a pay cut, BUT someone will PAY the man so I doubt he's retained. That, plus Dorsey drafted his replacement this year...

ToxSocks 11-21-2014 03:46 PM

Yeah, because Hali did SOO much last night too.

You guys are so over reactionary. One year he's a hero, the next year he doesn't deserve to be on the roster.

Instead you want a bunch or Ron Parkers back there.

Hammock Parties 11-21-2014 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11135393)
I would rather keep Tamba and let Bowe go and collect the $12 million.

Tamba still has a massive effect on the success of this team. He's worth the money next year.

Next year is a key season for this team.

We aren't going to find a replacement for Bowe that easy between then and now.

Best to keep him. He is a sure 900 yards.

Tamba is done BTW. He didn't do shit last night. You have an emotional attachment to him.

ToxSocks 11-21-2014 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Alex's Wins (Post 11135410)
Next year is a key season for this team.

We aren't going to find a replacement for Bowe that easy between then and now.

Best to keep him. He is a sure 900 yards.

Tamba is done BTW. He didn't do shit last night. You have an emotional attachment to him.

I wouldn't call him "done". But he's certainly declining. He's pretty much been invisible for the past few weeks except for a few plays here and there.

spanky 52 11-21-2014 05:00 PM

So why wasn't Ford subbing Hali? And Berry is stealing from the Chiefs. A lot of fail on the defensive side of the ball.

scho63 11-21-2014 05:13 PM

Berry hasn't lost a step since his injury: he has lost FIVE STEPS!!!! ROFL

rtmike 11-21-2014 05:13 PM

Pretty close to the same time last year.
Is Hali just not making it to the end of the season anymore?
Sort of like C. Wiegman losing so much weight during the year that towards the end he was being pushed around like a rag doll?

The Fade played Sandy Eggo tough so I was expecting a close one, always is. They'll win a couple more before the season finishes.

dannybcaitlyn 11-21-2014 05:14 PM

What was Poe doing on the quarter back sneaks?

notorious 11-21-2014 05:18 PM

It's about time some of you are coming around.

notorious 11-21-2014 05:19 PM

Imagine what the Chiefs could do with Hali, Berry, and Bowes cap waste.......

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11135620)
Imagine what the Chiefs could do with Hali, Berry, and Bowes cap waste.......

If the Chiefs had cut all of those players after June 1, they'd have had $30 million or more in cap space.

But it's unlikely they'd be 7-4.

notorious 11-21-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11135628)
If the Chiefs had cut all of those players after June 1, they'd have had $30 million or more in cap space.

But it's unlikely they'd be 7-4.


Agree 100%.

I am looking at next year.

DaneMcCloud 11-21-2014 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11135630)
Agree 100%.

I am looking at next year.

I don't think there will be a cap space issue in 2015. I think the biggest issue is "Who do they sign and who do they draft?".

Not a bad problem for a good team to have. :)

RunKC 11-21-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11135635)
I don't think there will be a cap space issue in 2015. I think the biggest issue is "Who do they sign and who do they draft?".

Not a bad problem for a good team to have. :)

I really do think that Berry and Tamba are both expendable. Keeping Dee Ford on the bench another year isn't going to help things. He's got the talent. He just needed a year to get stronger and learn his technique. Really like what we've seen from him in the small window we've seen.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-21-2014 07:19 PM

On the block this off season.

srvy 11-21-2014 07:28 PM

Maybe Berry just isn't a mudder :D

Mr. Laz 11-21-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11135393)
I would rather keep Tamba and let Bowe go and collect the $12 million.

Tamba still has a massive effect on the success of this team. He's worth the money next year.

we probably need to let all 3 walk.

but only if Dorsey is going to go out and get some talent

if he just sits on his ass again then we may have to keep them

BlackOp 11-21-2014 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11136001)

if he just sits on his ass again then we may have to keep them

:hmmm: Im not sure what he has done to give the impression that he..."sits on his ass". They had Sanders all but signed...that's not on him.

I think KC wanted Beckham..but we went way earlier than projected.

ILChief 11-21-2014 09:28 PM

I'm over Berry. He's OK but not great. Definitely not worth the $$$. We have to re-sign more important pieces and plug some holes at WR/CB/OL. We can get by at safety.

Easy 6 11-21-2014 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11135679)
I really do think that Berry and Tamba are both expendable. Keeping Dee Ford on the bench another year isn't going to help things. He's got the talent. He just needed a year to get stronger and learn his technique. Really like what we've seen from him in the small window we've seen.

Dee Ford is exactly why we should hedge our bets by keeping Hali, Ford hasnt even been on the field since week 5-6... train this guy up for camp next year because he obviously isnt getting it done in practice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11136016)
I'm over Berry. He's OK but not great. Definitely not worth the $$$. We have to re-sign more important pieces and plug some holes at WR/CB/OL. We can get by at safety.

Berry is an All Pro... how worthwhile trading him would be I dont know, but if most people were honest about it they'd see that he isnt all that, he can be had this year for the right price.

I implicitely trust Dorsey to fill his spot, he has already done an admirable job of it for the first 8-10 games of the season... so why not for the long haul.

Whatcha gonna do, Eric?

Discuss Thrower 11-21-2014 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11135635)
I don't think there will be a cap space issue in 2015. I think the biggest issue is "Who do they sign and who do they draft?".

Not a bad problem for a good team to have. :)

Good thing Alex Smith will be 34 years old by the time next April's picks are contributing.

Unless Aaron Murray turns out to be the next Tom Brady or something.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-21-2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11136111)
Good thing Alex Smith will be 34 years old by the time next April's picks are contributing.

Unless Aaron Murray turns out to be the next Tom Brady or something.

Baby Lee tell me Alex goin' play 'till he 50! :D

bobhill 11-22-2014 01:49 AM

Ron Parker is a better Saftey then Cornerback. Why is he still playing corner? He took berrys spot leave him at safety

BlackOp 11-22-2014 02:05 AM

If I were a gm..I would trade Berry for a 2nd round pick and keep Hali. For $11 million, Berry should be everywhere...each game. I cant remember any significant plays he has made in a while..the defense didn't skip a beat when he was out. Is what it is...

ChiefRocka 11-22-2014 06:35 AM

My guess is he is playing injured this season. Big bet as to whether he returns to form next season.

TimeForWasp 11-22-2014 12:31 PM

I didn't mention it in the game, but when he was trying to catch Murrey he looked like he wasn't healthy. I think he is still playing hurt.

Sure-Oz 11-22-2014 12:34 PM

Berry is overrated. Big time....have yet to see the college player

The Franchise 11-22-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11136730)
Berry is overrated. Big time....have yet to see the college player

That's because they ****ing ruined him in his first couple of years. Should have been a deep safety from the beginning.....but Crennel is a reerun.

Sure-Oz 11-22-2014 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11136740)
That's because they ****ing ruined him in his first couple of years. Should have been a deep safety from the beginning.....but Crennel is a reerun.

Figures Dorsey and Berry who I thought were going to be superstars arent even close. Not sure how Berry is pro bowler year in and out. Cant cover but is a decent tackler

ThaVirus 11-22-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11136304)
If I were a gm..I would trade Berry for a 2nd round pick and keep Hali. For $11 million, Berry should be everywhere...each game. I cant remember any significant plays he has made in a while..the defense didn't skip a beat when he was out. Is what it is...


Happen to watch many Seahawks games? What significant plays would you say you've seen Earl Thomas make this season? I've only seen a couple and he gets paid more than Berry.

The Franchise 11-22-2014 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11136751)
Figures Dorsey and Berry who I thought were going to be superstars arent even close. Not sure how Berry is pro bowler year in and out. Cant cover but is a decent tackler

You're smoking crack if you think he can't cover.

Mr. Laz 11-22-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11136011)
:hmmm: Im not sure what he has done to give the impression that he..."sits on his ass". They had Sanders all but signed...that's not on him.

I think KC wanted Beckham..but we went way earlier than projected.

so just incompetent then

wanted Sanders ... fail
wanted Beckham ... fail

JohnnyHammersticks 11-22-2014 12:49 PM

Most of us--myself included--didn't want to hear it when Mike Mayock said leading up to the draft that Earl Thomas was better than Eric Berry, but he ended up being absolutely right.

The Franchise 11-22-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 11136774)
Most of us--myself included--didn't want to hear it when Mike Mayock said leading up to the draft that Earl Thomas was better than Eric Berry, but he ended up being absolutely right.

Different positions.....different defense.

Hootie 11-22-2014 12:54 PM

I don't hate Eric Berry. He is probably a pretty good player. But he's not even close to what he was billed as coming out of Tennessee. Not even close.

Rausch 11-22-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11136770)
You're smoking crack if you think he can't cover.

This...

Mr. Laz 11-22-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 11136774)
Most of us--myself included--didn't want to hear it when Mike Mayock said leading up to the draft that Earl Thomas was better than Eric Berry, but he ended up being absolutely right.

we don't really know that.

Crennel used Berry like a linebacker so that's what he's become.

The Franchise 11-22-2014 12:58 PM

Monte Kiffin and Romeo Crennel both ruined Berry.

The Franchise 11-22-2014 12:58 PM

Go move Earl Thomas to SS and ask him to do the same shit that Berry does and you'd get the same result....if not worse.

stevieray 11-22-2014 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11136785)
I don't hate Eric Berry. He is probably a pretty good player. But he's not even close to what he was billed as coming out of Tennessee. Not even close.

before his injury.. he would take INSANE angles under blockers..his run support was nothing short of outstanding.

not writing him off, but he looked like he could barely run on that pursuit... gotta be playing hurt.

funny...what kept coming back to me during the Faid game was the loss of DJ.

I highly doubt they win if he's playing.

The Franchise 11-22-2014 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11136804)
before his injury.. he would take INSANE angles under blockers..his run support was nothing short of outstanding.

not writing him off, but he looked like he could barely run on that pursuit... gotta be playing hurt.

funny...what kept coming back to me during the Faid game was the loss of DJ.

I highly doubt they win if he's playing.

I know it's crazy but I think we have 2-3 more wins with DJ.

DaneMcCloud 11-22-2014 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11136804)
before his injury.. he would take INSANE angles under blockers..his run support was nothing short of outstanding.

not writing him off, but he looked like he could barely run on that pursuit... gotta be playing hurt.

funny...what kept coming back to me during the Faid game was the loss of DJ.

I highly doubt they win if he's playing.

From my point of view, if Berry is not hurt, he's playing not to get hurt.

He's tentative, has taken bad angles and has either lost several steps or he's thinking too much. In any case, he's either physically damaged or emotionally damaged and isn't the same player we've seen in the past.

The loss of DJ was huge. Mauga's been very respectable, especially considering this is his full season since 2008, but he's not playing at DJ's level.

Hootie 11-22-2014 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11136804)
before his injury.. he would take INSANE angles under blockers..his run support was nothing short of outstanding.

not writing him off, but he looked like he could barely run on that pursuit... gotta be playing hurt.

funny...what kept coming back to me during the Faid game was the loss of DJ.

I highly doubt they win if he's playing.

I agree with all of this.

DJ, apparently, single handedly, was an amazing run stopper. Amazing. No way we lose that game with DJ. Or get manhandled in the run game against Buffalo and Seattle.

Losing him really hurt.

stevieray 11-22-2014 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11136818)
From my point of view, if Berry is not hurt, he's playing not to get hurt.

He's tentative, has taken bad angles and has either lost several steps or he's thinking too much. In any case, he's either physically damaged or emotionally damaged and isn't the same player we've seen in the past.

The loss of DJ was huge. Mauga's been very respectable, especially considering this is his full season since 2008, but he's not playing at DJ's level.


that's a good way to describe it..., that SJ hit still pisses me off..at that point Berry was a rising star.

stevieray 11-22-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11136817)
I know it's crazy but I think we have 2-3 more wins with DJ.

at least two...

stevieray 11-22-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11136820)
I agree with all of this.

DJ, apparently, single handedly, was an amazing run stopper. Amazing. No way we lose that game with DJ. Or get manhandled in the run game against Buffalo and Seattle.

Losing him really hurt.

..miss the INTS

The Franchise 11-22-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11136835)
..miss the INTS

This. DJ can play the run AND cover. It sucks that he'll probably never be 100% again.

Mr. Laz 11-22-2014 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11136835)
..miss the INTS

If we just catch one of those interceptions against the Faiders.

We dropped like 5?

ThaVirus 11-22-2014 01:16 PM

People seem to forget Berry's best season as a pro was last year.

That 2011 injury really ****ed up the trajectory of his career, but he was playing the best ball of his career at this time last year. He's been dealing with that foot injury and now has the high ankle sprain. I wouldn't doubt it if he said he were 75%.

I wish we had the luxury of sitting him until he's 100% but we'll need him while Parker is playing CB.

stevieray 11-22-2014 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11136839)
If we just catch one of those interceptions against the Faiders.

We dropped like 5?


yup

stevieray 11-22-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11136841)
I wouldn't doubt it if he said he were 75%.


agreed..his closing speed has always been tremendous.

The Franchise 11-22-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11136841)
People seem to forget Berry's best season as a pro was last year.

That 2011 injury really ****ed up the trajectory of his career, but he was playing the best ball of his career at this time last year. He's been dealing with that foot injury and now has the high ankle sprain. I wouldn't doubt it if he said he were 75%.

I wish we had the luxury of sitting him until he's 100% but we'll need him while Parker is playing CB.

Yeah....I think if Cooper was actually playing well....they wouldn't have had to rush Berry back.

stevieray 11-22-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11136838)
This. DJ can play the run AND cover. It sucks that he'll probably never be 100% again.

I has a sad.

ThaVirus 11-22-2014 01:24 PM

Losing DJ really ****ed us. At this point you could probably say losing Devito was a blessing in disguise, but DJ would make all the difference this season. I'm 100% confident that we win that game in Oakland with DJ. We probably win @ SF as well.

TEX 11-22-2014 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11136839)
If we just catch one of those interceptions against the Faiders.

We dropped like 5?

Yep. And it doesn't get much easier than Abdullah's - the ball hit him in stride. Could have caught it and just continued out of bounds without even getting touched. Thank you very much - game F-ING OVER! :shake:

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-22-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 11136720)
I didn't mention it in the game, but when he was trying to catch Murrey he looked like he wasn't healthy. I think he is still playing hurt.

Probably playing him hoping to get a few big plays and drive the stock up for the off season.

"HE'S STILL GOT IT; SECOND ROUNDER, PLEASE"!

Hootie 11-22-2014 01:38 PM

I never want to think about that Raiders game again. Let's just stop talking about it.

O.city 11-22-2014 01:47 PM

He's being asked to play single high alot more this year. On has to hope he's getting accustomed and is still dinged up, otherwise he's just meh

Johnny Vegas 11-22-2014 02:03 PM

he's just 2 games back in from being on the bench over an injury since week 2 and y'all mother****ers expect this human being to come out blazing opponents like he's some sort of machine?? I bet by in 2 weeks he'll be comfortable again. it took this team 4 weeks to get rolling like they have been and those 4 weeks this place was in full meltdown mode.


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