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Chiropractors....
Went for the first time ever yesterday. Lower back and sciatic pain virtually gone.
Wish I had gone sooner! What are your thoughts on back crackers? |
Love 'em. I go whenever I need to. Can't live without one. Plus I love the massage before hand. Plus one suspected my food allergies, got me tested and found them. Symptoms gone.
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it's cool
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Useful, but the minute they say I'm going to need adjustments for the next 2 years I'm out. Too many are quacks.
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Use them on the reg for low back and sciatic pain.
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Went to go meet with one last year for my neck issues, and he took some x-rays and wanted to put me on some aggressive 3 visit a week plan for 3 months that was going to cost me $1500 with no guarantees it wasn't going to fix the problem. Ummm...no sale.
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Zero science behind them having any use other than temporary pain relief for back issues. Basically like a massage will give you.
It amazes me that it is an accepted profession given that they are only marginally more useful than witch doctors. |
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been to them a lot. Allowed me to move many times.
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Btw, did you know that if you go to a "straight" chiro it is likely they don't believe in germs theory or vaccinations.. I shit you not. That's the kind of "doctor" I want manipulating my spine!
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They can push a lot of things you really don't need like vitamins, etc, but if you find a good one that just does what you want they are great. I've used one for several years and there are times when a cracking is the only thing that fixes my issues.
That, and now I own my own Tens device. It's awesome. |
I'll add a caveat. There are some chiros who aren't complete whack jobs. They recognize that what they do is simply physical therapy. In those cases, my issue is... why not go to a REAL physical therapist?
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Go to an osteopath. They can manipulate the joints but can treat musculoskeletal injuries with more than just manipulation.
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I came this close to being a back cracker, I can still adjust backs, but I won't dare **** with necks.
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I have sciatic pain. Went to the chiropractor, got some relief. I have a bone pressing on the sciatic nerve. It would make sense to get the bone off the nerve and problem solved, right? Didn't work. I didn't do the manipulation though.
Went to an acupuncturist and got way more pain relief. They are not getting that bone off the nerve. Why does it work? It does, at least for me. Go figure. |
With my profession, I'm at a high risk for back problems so i frequently go, but I always follow it up with a session of physical therapy.
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My wife (who was a licensed massage therapist) always had lots of patients with sciatica who gave up on chiro's and turned to massage. Lots of success there.
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Yeah, **** a chiropractor.
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But if I had come in three times a week for six months to a year it wouldn't hurt anymore... |
According to studies, there's no demonstrable benefit. Some risk.
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Just to clarify... Not saying to go to a chiro instead of medical doctor. Just as an addition to.
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I have gone about 10 times, worked wonders every time.
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I get them even when I don't go to the chiro because it's so good for you and not just in a physical way. It de-stresses. Bob Hope had one daily I heard. He lived a long life. |
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I get this thing, since my 30's, if I crawl under a table very low to get something and or bend too low, like a freak thing, I become jello and can't walk. Have to be carried to the car to go it's so painful. It's amazing what just gentle blocking does for it. Only need to go once or twice and I'm fine. But this guy suckered me into a year. So I know what you're saying. |
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I get pinched nerves in my lower back about once a year. Every time, they have me back to 100% in no time at all. I love all the ones I've used over the years. |
I'm MD trained. I have encountered a lot of DO's, and they are great doctors. The reason I didn't do DO was because test scores tend to be a bit lower at those schools (see below), and I was afraid it wouldn't prepare me as well as an MD school.
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Shamans and witch doctors are also options. Or herbalists. All great
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It's not quackery, that comes from their competition the medical profession and they were sued and lost for that kind of defamation. It's just a whole different view of health and the body and that it heals itself. That's all it is. Sure, they can make you come too long—SOME of them. Other than that, it's just a different kind of care which has a place.
Some medical doctors sell you unnecessary surgery where a chiro can save you a LOT of money. It just depends on each situation. Chiros are cheaper than medical generally speaking. |
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I go every other week or so. Makes my ****ty back feel much better.
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Their blood testing is IgG. This is a pretty simple way of describing it:
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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011...t-their-views/ |
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Also, what do you think should be the first method of treatment or portal for someone suffering from back pain? After all, it's the most common health complaint that any person will suffer from in their lifetime. You believe they should go to their PCP, who know's very little about biomechanics of the spine and/or soft tissue treatment, and get the standard "pain pill and muscle relaxer" prescription? |
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The above lawsuit, which I linked bc someone asked, was from 40 years ago when the AMA was found guilty of conspiring to "contain and eliminate" the chiropractic profession. |
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At that time, I don't really know, but I would guess many of those docs guilty of this aren't practicing anymore. |
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Here's the thing: I don't really care one way or the other. Full disclosure, I'm a surgeon who works on completely different disease processes. If you go to a chiro and they provide you with a service that you find comforting, great. |
Crystals, linaments, salves plus phrenology all work especially if you use an herbalist and aroma therapy at the same time.
The medicine shows and tent healers of the 1800s are still among us with the following of faith healers and mystics. |
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Physical therapists aren't cheap either. |
I've been to two good chiropractors and one bad one. And I've had a pile of doctors tell me they are quacks.
The two good ones were good. They helped with back pain, but also with injury recovery. There might have been better options, but none that are out here. I've tried living with back pain thinking it will heal. Sometimes it won't until you can get shit loosened up. I've also had ankle injuries that refused to heal until they got realigned. The two that were good were also sports medicine guys, so it's not like they were completely quacked out. In my experience they can help structurally, but if they want to try to sell you on fixing asthma or blood pressure or other physiological ailments that are unrelated to bones and soft tissue injuries, wave that bullshit flag. |
I'm late coming to this thread, but I work as a librarian and ethics instructor at a Chiropractic College in the Houston area. Chiropractic does work, but you need to look carefully for the RIGHT kind of chiropractor. The college where I work teaches EBM (evidence based medicine) and RBP (results based practice). As a matter of fact, the senior-most professor where I work as published several articles saying that there is no scientific evidence that the subluxation complex exists (which is the foundation of straight chiropractic philosophy). There are several DOs and MDs on the staff and not one "straight" chiropractor (if you come across someone who graduated from Life West...run like hell the other way). Good EBM based chiropractic is closer to osteopathy (many of the adjustment techniques are the same), with the exception that DCs cannot prescribe medicines.
It's a case of doing your homework before you visit any medical provider. I had one DO that only wanted to prescribe pills and give shots...he was worse than an MD in that regard. My current MD works in a joint practice with a DO and a Chiro and she's doing a great job of helping me manage my diabetes. I used to have chronic shoulder and hand pain that was the direct result of several separated shoulders I suffered when I wrestled and played football in high school. After treatment from an attending assisted by student interns (those who are in the last portion of their program), I hardly have any problems any more. Just my two cents. |
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A few are specialists in allergies ( one I used to go to ) and some sports issues. |
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