Let's talk about the Seahawks.
 

We are so close, and yet so very, very far. It's hard to think that the Chiefs still have mountains to climb, seeing as we're the #1 Wild Card team right now, but keep this in mind:

• We've only won 6 games, and
• Of the remaining 7 games on the schedule, five of them are murderer's row.

So that means, for the Chiefs to even have a fair chance at a playoff spot (9 wins), they need to win ONE of those immensely difficult games. In order to have an excellent chance at a playoff spot (10 wins), they'll need to win TWO.

Of those five games, few are more daunting than the game we have lined up this week at home against the Seattle Seahawks.

We know they are insanely talented on both offense and defense. But the biggest reason this is going to be a very difficult game: they just beat the Giants by rushing for 350 yards.

350.

yards.

rushing.

That is an actual thing that happened. Now factor in the fact that the Chiefs (a.) like to go into subpackages three-quarters of the game and (b.) are generally a lousy team against the run, and it's clear that this week is an uphill battle.

At least it's at home.

The heart and soul of everything the Seahawks do is Russell Wilson. There are few non-AFCW QBs we know better than Wilson on ChiefsPlanet. We know he's super athletic. He's extremely smart. He's tough and unshakeable. And he's got a fantastic arm that is very accurate. Wilson, however, is also extremely difficult to get to -- his OL is pedestrian, but his movement in the pocket is ballet-like, he always keeps his feet moving and can elude pressure better than every other QB in the league. He is the best in the NFL at eluding pressure. There is nobody better.

We're also familiar, are we not, with Mr. Marshawn Lynch. The Chiefs need to start Vickerson on the DL, and play Mays at ILB, because if we don't, Seahawks' OL and Lynch himself will chew us the **** up. I honestly don't know how we stop the Seahawks run game, but that's why I keep you guys around, right? The Seahawks have really good RBs in backup roles. Robert Turbin is basically a poor man's Marshawn Lynch himself, and Christine Michael is a terrific athlete. The run game is monstrous, and it's everything Seattle does brilliantly.

At WR, they are mercifully less imposing. They've released Percy Harvin, but they've got four good B-listers in Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Paul Richardson, and Ricardo Lockette. None of these guys is "take over the game" great. But all of them are shifty route runners, and Wilson's movement in the pocket always buys them time. Zach Miller is another B-lister talent at TE, another guy who will make you pay on a few downs if you aren't on top of him.

The offensive line is strong on the left side. Russell Okung is an excellent LT when he's healthy, and James Carpenter is a former 1st rounder who's found a good home at guard. Max Unger is a tough center. I'm not crazy about their talent on the right side of the line: JR Sweazy and Justin Britt have been beat like drums a few times this year. Britt himself is a rookie at right tackle. Many Mizzou fans here know him very well, and he gets to line up for 60 snaps across from Justin ****ing Houston.

So that is an imposing offense that provides many riddles for the Chiefs defense.

As for the Chiefs offense, most notably, the Chiefs offensive line, well the hits just keep on coming.

After wrestling with the Rams, Jets, and Bills defensive lines, now they get a Super Bowl winning defensive line that ONCE AGAIN creates an unfair amount of pressure. Welcome to the NFL.

It's not quite what it was with Gus Bradley running the show, but it's pretty ****ing close. Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril with Bruce Irvin at OLB is as lethal a set of edgerushers as the Chiefs will face all year. The first two in particular are capable of putting up multi-sack games, and Irvin is capable of being a terror off the edge. Up the gut, Brandon Mebane has been a revelation over the past several years, and while he's a step down from Marcell Dareus and Kyle Williams (thank the lord), he's still a block of granite on running downs. They also start Tony McDaniel, who does a solid job, and they have Kevin Williams backing them up at DT -- yes, the Kevin Williams you're thinking of.

It gets worse, because the second level of the defense is very stout as well. I've already mentioned Irvin, but K.J. Wright and Malcolm Smith came up huge in the Super Bowl (Smith won MVP). Bobby Wagner at MLB is a reliable player as well.

And of course, the Seahawks have the NFL's best secondary. I hope you guys all had fun watching Bowe this week, because he's gone this week. Richard Sherman is a Top Three corner, and specializes on large, physical WRs like Bowe. You can bet that Sherman will read those back-shoulder throws and make Alex Smith pay if he tries that shit on him.

The good news is the rest of the CBs on Seahawks roster can be passed on, SO IT WOULD BE REALLY AWESOME IF DONNIE AVERY MAGICALLY HEALED THIS WEEK. Byron Maxwell, Tharold Simon, Marcus Burley... these are not people the Chiefs need to gameplan around.

Of course, the reason the Seahawks have the best secondary in the league is because they have the best safety duo in the NFL. Kam Chancellor is a 230 lbs punishing strong safety, and while he isn't a world beater in coverage, he can blow up run games. And Earl Thomas is the best safety in the NFL -- he's an elite, 4.3 speed deep single high safety who takes away the deep game. Not that he needs it against Alex Smith.

It is crazy how far this Chiefs team has come. But there is no doubt that it has a long, long way to go. This Seahawks game is going to be as stiff as challenges get.

Definitely agree about Vickerson, he's a hoss against the run, great pickup he was.

Bowe, yeah, Shermans gonna be on him like *pick a euphemism" Bowe will be wearing him like a cape, unless Reid moves him around a lot he'll be spending his day blocking.

They aren't that talented on offense. Their WR's are as poverty as ours. Their TE's have been a massive disappointment and they don't have speed anymore.

All they have left is Wilson and beast mode. Stop beast mode and we win.

The heart of the Seahawks is not Wilson, it's Lynch. Always has been. Stop Lynch and you can beat them fairly easily as long as you stay disciplined in coverage and in your rush lanes.

Wilson threw 2 INTs against the Giants and fumbled as well. Lynch put that team on his back. Even the Seahawks fans agree that Lynch is their best offensive player and the heart of that offense.

They still have plenty of speed.

Baldwin is one of the best slot guys in the league.

Paul Richardson is a rookie but he has great speed.

Their TE Luke Wilson is a 4.5 guy, he is faster than Kelce.

Their main weakness is their OL. I expect Houston and Hali to have a big day. Same with Poe.

If the front 7 plays like it did against Buffalo (5.0 ypc) we have no chance. Stop the run and we can win.

I cant believe you think this.

You should ask Sully to do a nice post on the Seahawks C3.

Seahawks have a ton of injuries on defense. Mebane got hurt yesterday and Wagner and Chancellor have been out for a while (unsure if they will be back next week).

Carpenter has been out on the line, though they got Okung and Unger back yesterday. Zach Miller has been out all season and they may have lost their 2nd TE, Willson, yesterday. TE could be down to third string Helfet and newly signed Moeaki.

Mebane got hurt this week iirc

Their team is nowhere near as good on the road as they are at home, and they're not any more dominant than some of the teams that we've already played.

The only thing you need to know about the Seahawks is that they are going to kick our ass

Also, the Seahawks have had a hard time getting pressure on the QB this year, at least compared to last year. They also aren't very good against the run, especially on the road. The thing I worry about most is stopping Wilson's runs. He tore the Giants up yesterday.

Great thought.

You don't have to take my word for it. This is coming from their own fans:

I was far more worried about this game a few weeks ago.

Hali and Houston are going to have to tame themselves and prepare for the read option, which obviously hampers our pass rush. IIRC, Hali has been pretty good at defending the read option the few times it was run against us in the past.

Lynch is obviously worrisome. Not sure how we're gonna tackle that guy.

Chiefs are gonna have to play keep away again.

And im honestly not all that worried about the Bowe/Sherman matchup.

Previously bowe was eaten up by good corners. Look at his games this year against good corners.

He's absolutely playing at a high level this year and I don't think they need to let him walk this year.

I feel like if we score more points than them we will win :p

Why not?

Bowe cant outrun him and he cant outphysical him... Sherman seems like the perfect corner for a guy like Bowe IMO.

they move bowe around a lot, and Sherman doesn't move.

Thats definitely our best bet.

Agreed, Sherman is going to be on Bowe all day long. I have a feeling that this is the game where Kelce and DAT really break out.

The only concern with Kelce is that Seattle has some of the best coverage LBs in the league and if Chancellor is playing, can Kelce take the hits or can Smith help him avoid taking them?

Mebane may be out of this one, he injured his hammy last week, so I fully expect Reid to run it down their throats as they will be missing their best run stuffer up front.

You haven't seen the Seahawks enough this year then. Sherman has been following the true #1 receivers for much of the year. Go catch the Dallas game, he was matched up against Bryant pretty much all game no matter where Bryant lined up.

I fully expect Sherman to follow Bowe around or be matched up against Kelce on some occasions as they are our only real threats in the passing game.

We suck against the run.
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Ahhhhhhhh. I forgot that!

And he struggles with speedsters.

Hell, just put Hemingway out there. Sherman can help us by eliminating him from Smith's reads. LMAO

Seahawks are 30th in the NFL in sacks.

Seahawks are at the bottom of the league in QB pressures and sacks. They aren't getting to the QB which bodes well for our keep away game.

Smith may have his best game of the season next week.

KC just faced the best defensive front I've seen in a long time....on the road. Arrowhead will be loud this game...Lynch will be the man to stop. If Smith has another second to drop back..KC will dink them.

They have been "exposed " this year. The legion of boom isnt so scary without the beastly pass rush they had last year. Im feeling good about this match up much like the pats game I think this team is going to bring its absolute best at home and so will the crowd.

It is going to be a bitch stopping lynch though. Fugg it id play 8 in the box until russel proves he can beat us through the air, which he certainly cannot do, so long as we get interior pressure.

They get pretty good pressure from the outside in the few games i watched. But they arent getting any interior pressure at all.

Because the Chiefs will get Bowe open in the underneath stuff. 5-10 Yard slants are difficult to defend for anyone, and Sherman has been beaten plenty this year.

If Bowe were primarily a vertical receiver i'd worry more.

But the way the Chiefs use Bowe, im not particularly worried about it.

Bowe also has the tendency to show up against the leagues betters corners.

This.

Bills have the best all-around defensive front in football. Look at the numbers from ALL of their guys across the board. Every single one of them can bring the heat, it's ridiculous. And they were amped the **** up on top of that.

We've played some of the best defensive fronts in the NFL already. Only one missing off our checklist is Detroit.

I'm just damn glad that the Cardinals won't have Dockett or Washington blitzing up the middle. That would be hell with our guards.

I'm actually less worried about this game than I was about Buffalo, as it's at home and we match up better.

They haven't played against our poor pass protecting O line yet.
I do think it's a winnable game IF we can contain beast mode!

HOW do we matchup better against a team that just ran for 350 yards against a BETTER run defense?

We're underdogs.

I like the fight in this team, but we're underdogs.

stop the run
stop the scrambling of Wilson

probably need to go heavier on Dline


i would hope that our Oline couldn't do any worse against seattle compared to Buffalo

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There are two keys to win:
1. Stop the run. Going to be a real test for our defense.

2. Contain Wilson. We can't let him beat us with his legs.

We're going to have to stay in base a lot more than we have this entire year.

Mays in at LB in place of JMJ. Get Bailey, Poe, and Vickerson/Howard on the field at the same time, let Houston and Hali handle contain.

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Ya I stated the obvious.

I look forward to this weeks challenge. Kelce and Bowe need to have big games and let charles be Charles.

You know what's nice? Stealing the game yesterday means that a loss to Seattle doesn't crush our playoff hopes.

Two good teams but we're at home, and Vegas has us as a 1 point favorite. Seems about right.

They suck at stopping opposing TEs.

They only had Sherman covering Bryant because maxwell went down with an ankle injury in the first quarter of that cowboys game and they didn't want to leave a second year guy, Burley, out there against bryant. Otherwise, sherman stays on the left side and maxwell stays on the right. That's how they do things.

we need to strap on our big boy pants and come ready to tackle.

Sutton needs to game plan for the run.

Berry probably needs to be in the box

Well then....Clearly Kam and Thomas aren't worth their contracts.

So, is the world's loudest fan base championship on the line this week?

It would be awesome to really announce to the league "**** you we are here to stay" and just rip their dicks off a s shit down their throat.

Something like 31-14.

**** yeah

Please, beat those ****s.

Lynch only had 40 yards in the Super Bowl and Wilson still led that offense to almost 30 offensive points.

Just please stop talking.

Lynch is great but Robert Turbin and Christine Michael are also good.

They have the best stable of RBs in the league, IMO.

I fully expect KC to come out ready to play...Superbowl champs after a tough road win. I think the Seahawks will get their attention...Seattle isn't great on the road...and are coming into the loudest stadium in the world. There will be a lot of energy in that place this Sunday..

I think the tale of the tape on this one comes down to Lynch and Charles.

Am I viewing the stats correctly KC hasn't allowed a rushing TD this year?

SEA is #4 rushing DEF with 79.8 ypg and 4 TDs allowed with a 3.2 avg on 225 attempts.

KC is #18 rushing DEF with 115 ypg and 0 TDs allowed with a 4.7 avg on 220 attempts.

SEA is +3 on the turnovers and KC is -1.

Offense...

SEA is #1 rushing offense with 171 ypg, 14 TDs and a 5.5 avg on 279 attempts.

KC is #6 rushing offense with 136 ypg, 13 TDs and a 4.6 avg on 267 attempts.

Could be an ugly, low scoring game. Which offense can establish the ground game first and get some success in the air?

Don't have to take my word for it, look at post 15. All of those quotes are from their own fans.

Their fan base is probably just as reeruned as ours.. And you.

I'll never forget the shit you pulled on Justin Houston this offseason.

So that's your beef? LMAO

You should go ask the Seahawks fans how well Wilson performs when their running game isn't being used. They have a thread calling for 60% run plays.

You say stupid shit and keep on saying stupid shit after you're called out on your stupid shit and given a chance to stop saying stupid shit.

How well does any QB play when their running game doesn't produce? Funny that Alex gets a pass from you for having a shit offensive line and no weapons when their offensive line is a little better than ours but their weapons aren't as good.

Their stats are comparable, positions are comparable, and wins are comparable. One is a 9 year vet looking for his second playoff win and the other a 3rd year Super Bowl champ.

No shit?

Shit is stupid.

FYP
Edit : not saying that Old School is a stupid shit

Kam, Mebane, Wagner, and M.Smith are all possibly out... if they stay injured we are definitely winning.

Beast is definately the heart and soul of that offense and even that entire team. Most seacock fans will tell you that the entire team rallies around him and he elevates the play of even the defense. Wilson can **** you up with his legs, but there whole thing has been pounding the ball with beast.

Wilson couldn't get the passing game to work when they had Percy Harvin in there. How well is Harvin playing now that he is with the Jets? He never even came close to breaking 100 receiving yards with Wilson as his QB. What does that say about Wilson since many of you are so apt to blame the lack of WR production on the QB?

As for the Superbowl win, you do realize that the Seahawks had the best defense of the decade in that SB run right?

Wilson's stats in the playoffs for that SB run since you're so quick to crap on Lynch:

Vs NO: 9-18, 103 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs He was the main reason for that win right?

Vs SF: 16-25, 215 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs

Vs Donkeys: 18-25, 206 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs

Lynch's numbers?

Vs NO: 28 carries, 140 yards, 2 TDs Without Lynch, they lose this game, plain and simple.

Vs SF (incredibly tough defense to run on): 22 carries, 109 yards, 1 TD Very few RBs ever crack the 100 yard mark and go for nearly 5 yards a pop against the 49ers, to do it in a playoff game makes it even more impressive.

Vs Donkeys: 15 carries, 39 yards, 1 TD Seahawks dominated this game on all levels as we all know. They focused everything on stopping Lynch in the run game.

So tell me again how Lynch wasn't the heart of that offense and how Wilson is?

Playing away, Beast is a Sea-sparrow...

He only rushes for 49 yards a game average on the road, receptions average 23 yards a game...

Seahawks only come up with a hair over 1 sack a game on the road...

Hawks 4-1 at home, 2-2 on the road, their only victories coming at Washington and Carolina....

What do they beat you with?

Wilson averages 283 yards per game total offense on the road...

Let's talk about the Seahawks.
 

What does Harvin have to do with anything? He's always been more of a gadget player than a pure receiver. Wilson made it to the ****ing Super Bowl throwing to Golden Tate, Doug Baldwin, Jermain Kearse and Zach Miller.

I've never been one to argue that passing yards = great QB play so you're barking up the wrong tree there. Wilson made plays at crucial times in that Super Bowl run. That 4th down strike for the TD against the 49ers and converting a ridiculous amount of passing 3rd downs in the Super Bowl to keep Peyton off the field did more to add to that lead than you'd like to admit.

It's laudable when a 9 year vet goes an entire game without throwing an INT around here but we're lambasting a second year guy for doing the same thing during a Super Bowl run? That's more of your stupid shit.

I think Lynch is definitely the engine of that offense but your attempt to minimize the impact of Wilson is laughable, really. Neither Lynch nor Russell Wilson are the number one contributor to their run last year. It's absolutely the defense in every situation. That was definitely the best pass defense of all time and overall one of the best we've seen as well.

Seahawks are just a bad road team for one reason or another. They lost to the freaken Rams and lost to the Chargers by 9 points.

This is exactly right.

If we have to lose, losing to a really good NFC team is who you lose to.

That being said, this is a winnable game and we need to bust our ass to win it.

Again, from their own fans regarding Wilson:

A lot more where that came from.

Why should anyone care what Seahawk fans think about Russell Wilson?

Seattle doesn't move their safeties in to linebacking positions like the Chiefs. Their linebackers cover TE's.

The 2014 Seattle Seahawks aren't the same team as the 2013 Seattle Seahawks.

I don't know if it's "Super Bowl Hangover" or the schedule, but they haven't played at the same level consistently throughout the season.

Alex Smith says "Seahawks, daddy is home. Prepare thy anus."

If the Chiefs win this game I'm going right back into full homer mode even though I'm pretty sure it's going wind up like the nerd who asks the head cheerleader out after shotgunning half a Miller Light behind the pine tree for a confidence boost.

I agree. I think this game is going to be a very close game and could go either way....much like the Bills game. They're gonna be focused on stopping JC and we're gonna be focused on stopping Lynch. Neither team has an explosive passing game. So basically who ever wins the Turnover game is gonna win. At least we have homefield advantage.

If we're gonna lose a game this wouldn't be so bad. Yeah...you don't want to lose any games but right now we are fighting for a wild card spot. Yesterday's Bills game and the upcoming Charger's game is more vital as the Wild Card spot may be decided by a tie breaker.

But Captain Jack will get you by tonight

You're exhibiting your dumbassery here as well.

That doesn't read much different than this site about Alex Smith and that guy is clearly pretty ****ing good.

Screw all this talk of a wild card spot I still want to win the division. The next step to do that is beating the defending SB Champ Seahawks in Arrowhead. The loudest outdoor stadium in the world which they foolishly challenged. Arrowhead and the Chiefs are going to erupt all over the Seahawks. It's going to be awesome.

Hope we go with the all red uni this week.

Really hope Mays gets some meaningful reps because I can't watch JMJ get mauled by blockers any longer.

Chiefs won't win this game if the run defense doesn't show up.