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Hammock Parties 10-30-2014 11:57 AM

Piece of metal may solve mystery of Amelia Earhart's disappearance
 
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/30/us/ame...ery/index.html

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Could one of aviation's most enduring mysteries be solved? An aircraft recovery group says it may already have a part of Amelia Earhart's plane, and it thinks it knows where to find the rest of it.

The International Historic Aircraft Recovery Group says new testing of a piece of metal found in the vast waters of the Pacific Ocean in 1991 gives the group "increasing confidence" that it's a part of the Lockheed Electra.

In a press release the group argues that the aluminum debris is likely a patch that Earhart had put on her plane in place of a window. The group says the patch had a distinctive shape, size and "pattern of rivets."

"The patch was as unique to her particular aircraft as a fingerprint is to an individual," the group wrote. Now the groups says research on the aluminum "matches that fingerprint in many respects."

Deserted island theory

Over the years many theories have emerged. For example: Earhart's plane was forced down by the Japanese around the Marshall Islands. Or even, Earhart secretly returned to the United States and the government gave her a new identity.

But International Historic Aircraft Recovery Group has developed its own theory. The Pennsylvania-based group believes Earhart actually landed safely. The groups says she and her navigator Fred Noonan set the plane down on a reef on a deserted island in the Pacific called Nikumaroro.


The group lays out what it thinks happened next in its press release: Earhart "sent radio distress calls for at least five nights before the Electra was washed into the ocean by rising tides and surf leaving Earhart and Noonan cast away on the uninhabited atoll."

The group, which operates as a nonprofit, isn't deterred by the fact that its previous searches of the area in 2010 and 2012 turned up no debris. That's because the group thinks the plane may be resting in mostly one piece.

International Historic Aircraft Recovery Group came up empty two years ago, but it thinks during that search it may have uncovered the plane itself.

"Several months after the 2012 expedition a member of TIGHAR's online Amelia Earhart Search Forum spotted an unusual feature in the sonar imagery," the group says. Six hundred feet below the waves, at the base of a cliff, the group detected an "anomaly in the underwater topography."

An anomaly

Further analysis shows, the group says, an object the "right size and shape" of Electra's fuselage.

It's not the first time this group has made a splash with its findings. When it first discovered sonar imagery of the "anomaly" the group got tepid reaction from Louise Foudray, caretaker and historian of the Amelia Earhart Birthplace Museum.

"We don't want to shrug off the hard work anyone is doing. We do like the idea that people are still interested," she said at the time. "But we're skeptical."

And the group itself isn't ready to say for sure it has cracked this cold case.
"Is the anomaly the aircraft?" the group asks. "The only way to know is to go look."

And in June of 2015 the groups says it will spend 24 days doing just that.

Reerun_KC 10-30-2014 12:39 PM

as an aviator and aviation history buff, this is exciting as hell

DaFace 10-30-2014 12:41 PM

That'd be absolutely nuts if they actually found a piece of the thing after all these years.

Dayze 10-30-2014 12:42 PM

I watched a show about it a while back. While I don't remember all the exact details of the various theories, i remember being very interested in it. all the evidence they presented for the theories, seemed reasonable. amazing it's been this long and we're still not clear.

RollChiefsRoll 10-30-2014 12:43 PM

Wait so they've had this piece of metal since 1991 but only now have been able to link it to Earhart?

Donger 10-30-2014 12:44 PM

This seems to happen every few years or so.

ToxSocks 10-30-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 11071544)
This seems to happen every few years or so.

This.

Anyway, im pretty sure she flew through the Bermuda Triangle and was abducted by aliens and subsequently fed to the Lochness Monster.

Saul Good 10-30-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11071560)
This.

Anyway, im pretty sure she flew through the Bermuda Triangle and was abducted by aliens and subsequently fed to the Lochness Monster.

Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Just Passin' By 10-30-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11071573)
Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Because there's no way sasquatch would have allowed it to happen.

ptlyon 10-30-2014 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11071560)
This.

Anyway, im pretty sure she flew through the Bermuda Triangle and was abducted by aliens and subsequently fed to the Lochness Monster.

You forgot after being boned by everyone on the space ship

Jimmya 10-30-2014 12:59 PM

So she & her copilot lived on a deserted island for the rest of their lives? interesting

Dayze 10-30-2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 11071576)
Because there's no way Goodell would have allowed it to happen.

FYP

Sully 10-30-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11071530)
as an aviator and aviation history buff, this is exciting as hell

As neither of those things, it's exciting as hell for me, as well!

mikey23545 10-30-2014 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 11071585)
So she & her copilot lived on a deserted island for the rest of their lives? interesting

I hate to bring this up, but I would think the copilot would have finally resorted to eating Amelia and survived for quite a while.


Then, after he got tired of doing that, he could have built a huge fire and roasted her, then dined on her for quite a while after that!

ptlyon 10-30-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 11071602)
I hate to bring this up, but I would think the copilot would have finally resorted to eating Amelia and survived for quite a while.


Then, after he got tired of doing that, he could have built a huge fire and roasted her, then dined on her for quite a while after that!

Was probably pissed he couldn't get his hands on some fava beans

Dayze 10-30-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 11071610)
Was probably pissed he couldn't get his hands on some fava beans

based on her looks, i wouldn't be surprised if he found "her" "Fava Beans"

Demonpenz 10-30-2014 01:16 PM

She found out she was from Atchison and killed herself

ptlyon 10-30-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 11071611)
based on her looks, i wouldn't be surprised if he found "her" "Fava Beans"

Oh I would've too. Sooner or later.

Codered 10-30-2014 01:26 PM

You don't say? Let me call a buddy of mine. He should be able to tell you all about this piece of metal.

Dayze 10-30-2014 01:29 PM

best I can go is $500.

kepp 10-30-2014 01:36 PM

He specializes in pieces of metal.

NinerDoug 10-30-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 11071537)
I watched a show about it a while back. While I don't remember all the exact details of the various theories, i remember being very interested in it. all the evidence they presented for the theories, seemed reasonable. amazing it's been this long and we're still not clear.

Look how long it took to find the Titanic. The Ocean is a big place.

cmh6476 10-30-2014 01:44 PM

They should make a movie about it. Include a plot where she took a soccer ball with her and she marks a face on it and gives it a name for companionship. Maybe even create some fiction, like she comes back to a lover who has found and is living with another man now.

ptlyon 10-30-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11071672)
They should make a movie about it. Include a plot where she took a soccer ball with her and she marks a face on it and gives it a name for companionship.

That puts a different twist on the Wilson scene

alnorth 10-30-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 11071585)
So she & her copilot lived on a deserted island for the rest of their lives? interesting

The sad thing is that if they did die there, it was just roughly a year or so before the island was visited by a ship from some western nation's navy. (I forget which)

BucEyedPea 10-30-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 11071672)
They should make a movie about it. Include a plot where she took a soccer ball with her and she marks a face on it and gives it a name for companionship. Maybe even create some fiction, like she comes back to a lover who has found and is living with another man now.

There was a movie about Amelia several years back. I saw it. I really enjoyed it but it wasn't a hit by any means. Kinda came and went. After I saw it I used her portrait for my avy here for awhile.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/MeL9_QJ1vu4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

J Diddy 10-30-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11071536)
That'd be absolutely nuts if they actually found a piece of the thing after all these years.

A piece? We don't want a piece.

We want the whole thing.

ptlyon 10-30-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 11071705)
A piece? We don't want a piece.

We want the whole thing.

For a thousand dollars, I'll bring you the head, the tail, the whole damn thing

ThaVirus 10-30-2014 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug (Post 11071657)
Look how long it took to find the Titanic. The Ocean is a big place.


Link?

NinerDoug 10-30-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11071738)
Link?

http://blog.locustfork.net/wp-conten...th_Space2a.jpg

Donger 10-30-2014 02:17 PM

Looks like NOLA is about to get the shit kicked out of it again.

Sorter 10-30-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 11071729)
For a thousand dollars, I'll bring you the head, the tail, the whole damn thing



Excellent.

Sorter 10-30-2014 02:30 PM

Also, huge if true.

Pushead2 10-30-2014 02:49 PM

MH370

Dave Lane 10-30-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11071560)
This.

Anyway, im pretty sure she flew through the Bermuda Triangle and was abducted by aliens and subsequently fed to the Lochness Monster.

No the patch thing was actually on Noahs ark and he picked her up. Thats why people keep finding both of them every 2-3 years.

Jim Lahey 10-30-2014 04:29 PM

So we can find a small piece of metal in the ocean yet a massive Malaysian airlines plane is still missing..?

Halfcan 10-30-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11071530)
as an aviator and aviation history buff, this is exciting as hell

I agree- they seem to be getting closer. Always figured she landed the plane.

alpha_omega 10-30-2014 04:50 PM

It was the japs.

Just Passin' By 10-30-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey (Post 11072010)
So we can find a small piece of metal in the ocean yet a massive Malaysian airlines plane is still missing..?

They thought they'd nailed Jack the Ripper, too.

lcarus 10-30-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 11071778)
Also, huge if true.

I'm glad boxxy is back

Baby Lee 10-30-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11071684)
There was a movie about Amelia several years back. I saw it. I really enjoyed it but it wasn't a hit by any means. Kinda came and went. After I saw it I used her portrait for my avy here for awhile.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/MeL9_QJ1vu4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Teena Brandon says, 'that's a MAN baby!!'

Perineum Ripper 10-30-2014 05:14 PM

If only she had stayed in the kitchen

Psyko Tek 10-30-2014 10:00 PM

#6. Amelia Earhart

The disappearance of Amelia Earhart is probably the most well-known mystery in the world that doesn't involve Tom Hanks looking for clues in old paintings. In 1936, Earhart planned to reserve herself a page in the record books by flying around the world; a 29,000-mile journey. On the last 7,000-mile leg of her second attempt in 1937, she disappeared after giving her last radio transmission. The transmission was not anything helpful like, "I'm going to try to just fly through this mountain. I saw it in a cartoon once."

More has been speculated about her disappearance than has probably been written about her life. One of the more epic theories is that Earhart and her navigator, Fred Noonan, went down over part of the Japanese Empire and were captured, interrogated as spies and executed. Some assert that she was actually a spy for President Roosevelt, and that she secretly lived to the end of her days in New Jersey. Still others, with less imagination, think that she deliberately flew her plane into the Pacific because **** it.


Maybe her gigantic head popped at high altitude.

The Answer:

Remarkably, we've pretty much had the Earhart mystery solved ever since partial remains were found on an island... in 1940. That's right, 70 years ago. Only four years after she vanished.

To be fair, half of the bones were carried away by giant crabs, and the rest have since been lost because nobody thought it was important or even curious that a skeleton should turn up on an island just southeast of where Amelia freaking Earhart was going. Neither did it strike a chord that the remains turned out to be those of a white woman with Earhart's measurements, or that they were found alongside a pocket knife, a broken cosmetics jar, a piece of glass from an airplane windshield and the same exact type of navigational system Earhart had been using. It's inconclusive, dammit!


The truth is out there. And we won't rest until we find it, or we get too drunk to remember how to spell "Eaerhurt."

Even though all of this evidence is circumstantial, it's a freaking slam-dunk compared to what we have been forced to swallow from conspiracy theorists, who rank Earhart's disappearance right up there with the mystery of the Mary Celeste.

and this is from a comedy sight that has more facts than nay talk radio host

cosmo20002 10-30-2014 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11071419)

women drivers :shake:

007 10-30-2014 11:59 PM

I just don't get the interest in this at all.

Chiefshrink 10-31-2014 12:14 AM

Good Stuff !!

kysirsoze 10-31-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11072801)
I just don't get the interest in this at all.

I don't really share it, but I get it.

cosmo20002 10-31-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 11071419)
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/30/us/ame...ery/index.html

But International Historic Aircraft Recovery Group has developed its own theory. The Pennsylvania-based group believes Earhart actually landed safely. The groups says she and her navigator Fred Noonan set the plane down on a reef on a deserted island in the Pacific called Nikumaroro.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nNAYmGcHuw...1980%2Bhat.jpg

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Brian Jones 10-31-2014 08:31 AM

I thought she was taken captive by the aboriginals. Ehh, maybe that was Toby Gerhart I was thinking about.

Buehler445 10-31-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 11071530)
as an aviator and aviation history buff, this is exciting as hell

This. Although it seems unlikely it would be even remotely in tact after this long.

Rain Man 10-31-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11072801)
I just don't get the interest in this at all.


The time is getting short to be able to save her. She's 117 years old.


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