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The Franchise 09-11-2014 09:43 AM

Jacobs Grades the Offensive Line
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Grades for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL in Week 1
Eric Fisher: 22 pluses, 9 Stalemates and 19 Minuses. Overall Fisher did a solid job on stunts.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510086946040082432">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Grades for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL in Week 1
Mike McGlynn: 5 Pluses, 21 Stalemates, 25 Minuses</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510087648426622977">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Grades for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL in Week 1
Rodney Hudson: 11 Pluses, 32 Stalemates, 8 Minuses</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510089625973846016">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Grades for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL in Week 1
Zach Fulton: 10 Pluses, 27 Stalemates, 14 Minuses
Fulton had a wicked punch on 1 play.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510089967734095872">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Grades for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL in Week 1
Jeff Allen: 11 Pluses, 17 Stalemates, 8 Minuses, Out 15 Plays. Solid game for Jeff.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510090187112976385">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Ryan Harris: 1 Plus, 8 Stalemates, 6 Minuses (In place of Allen)</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510090470777954304">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Grades for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> OL in Week 1
Jeff Linkenbach: 1 Minus in 1 play of work for Fisher.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510090631424016384">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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TripleThreat 09-11-2014 09:45 AM

Is there a answer key to this?

loochy 09-11-2014 09:47 AM

Ugh. McGlynn and Fulton

Frosty 09-11-2014 09:47 AM

Spurious apostrophe alert!

loochy 09-11-2014 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 10902619)
Is there a answer key to this?

well, i'd say a plus is good, stalemate is kind of OK but not terrible, and minus is a bad thing

The Franchise 09-11-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10902628)
Spurious apostrophe alert!

I have no clue what you're talking about, sir.

loochy 09-11-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10902637)
I have no clue what you're talking about, sir.

heh heh you were quick with that

WhawhaWhat 09-11-2014 09:50 AM

So does Donald Stephenson get to come back like Welker and the other guys if the new drug policy is passed?

The Franchise 09-11-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10902642)
So does Donald Stephenson get to come back like Welker and the other guys if the new drug policy is passed?

I don't believe so. PEDs are different than drugs (marijuana or amphetamines). I could be wrong though.

The Franchise 09-11-2014 09:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>McGlynn looks lost out on the field. To be expected with learning the offense. But twist will be targeted at him and Fisher going forward.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510093011343396864">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>On tape the two biggest take aways are to over load them up the middle or attack stunts aimed at McGlynn/Fulton.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510093293926232066">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Right now Fisher, Hudson &amp; Allen are the three most athletic screeners. They can get into space the best. Fulton slow &amp; stiff in space.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510092778140106753">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Frosty 09-11-2014 09:53 AM

I wonder if Allen will end up making a better RT than G?

Also, could LDT be any worse than McGlynn? Might as well give the young guy some snaps.

donkhater 09-11-2014 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10902642)
So does Donald Stephenson get to come back like Welker and the other guys if the new drug policy is passed?

I don't think so. Stephenson got suspended for using a PED, I believe whereas Gordon and Welker (and others) were suspended for using recreational drugs. I think the latter is what the new drug policy is revising, but I don't know for sure.

The Franchise 09-11-2014 09:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Fishers minuses were based on technique. He held his own relying on his athletic ability, reanchor &amp; strength.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510093526336811008">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If he can get that technique up to par. He can be very reliable as a tackle. Better against twist this week. He didn&#39;t blow any assignments.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/510093803462877184">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Easy 6 09-11-2014 12:26 PM

Maybe just maybe Fisher will eventually get it.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2014 12:27 PM

Such a homer. LMAO

Coochie liquor 09-11-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10903017)
Maybe just maybe Fisher will eventually get it.

He's a bust. It's his second year and he's not elite yet /CP

Easy 6 09-11-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10903019)
Such a homer. LMAO

He held his own on sunday, theres nothing homer about it.

Pitt Gorilla 09-11-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10903019)
Such a homer. LMAO

You have access to the PFF grades, don't you?

mcaj22 09-11-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 10902650)
I wonder if Allen will end up making a better RT than G?

Also, could LDT be any worse than McGlynn? Might as well give the young guy some snaps.

no shit Jeff Allen makes a better tackle than guard. He played it all through college. Its no different than going out on a limb saying Hudson would be a better LG than anything else we have

the line should be

Fisher-Hudson-Kush-Fulton-Allen

what do they have to lose here

Hammock Parties 09-11-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 10903033)
He held his own on sunday, theres nothing homer about it.

His grades overall err on the side of homer. He imagines this line as about 20 percent better than it is.

TEX 09-11-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10903019)
Such a homer. LMAO

He did hold his own. He wasn't stellar, and admittedly that needs to be the case week in and week out to even have a shot at one day justifying the pick. But he was far from the biggest problem on the OL.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2014 12:49 PM

Fisher will get worse, it's not like he was even facing anyone good on his side.

penbrook 09-11-2014 12:50 PM

You know who I was surprised to see do a good job. The Chiefs secondary especially Abdullah. He didn't allow a single deep ball.

Reerun_KC 09-11-2014 12:52 PM

Well I cant comment, I didn't watch the game...

Buehler445 09-11-2014 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10903056)
Well I cant comment, I didn't watch the game...

Too much hookers and blow huh?

Reerun_KC 09-11-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10903063)
Too much hookers and blow huh?

Too much I don't give a shit would rather enjoy my Sundays on the golf course or doing honey do's for the wife...

This shit hole franchise is killing my love for the game.

OldSchool 09-11-2014 01:17 PM

Fisher did perform a lot better in the real game than he did during the pre-season. Looks like Reid kicked his butt a little.

OldSchool 09-11-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 10903031)
He's a bust. It's his second year and he's not elite yet /CP

I think people are concerned about him because he looked terrible during the pre-season and for most of last season. And he was the #1 overall pick but hasn't looked like anything close to that yet.

Bufkin 09-11-2014 01:21 PM

Surprise bitches! Fisher was solid.

OldSchool 09-11-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 10903111)
Surprise bitches! Fisher was solid.

No, 19 minuses is not solid, but having more pluses is a step in the right direction for him. Now let's see how he does against one of the greatest pass rushers of the 21st century in Demarcus Ware.

hometeam 09-11-2014 01:32 PM

Jacobs is a gigantic homer. Nothing to see here.

Mr. Laz 09-11-2014 01:33 PM

Twists just killed us.

Most of that will improve as our Oline gets used to working with each other.

Coochie liquor 09-11-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10903103)
I think people are concerned about him because he looked terrible during the pre-season and for most of last season. And he was the #1 overall pick but hasn't looked like anything close to that yet.

I get that part, but they don't want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He played out of his actual position all season last year. And was injured.

Mr. Laz 09-11-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 10903142)
I get that part, but they don't want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He played out of his actual position all season last year. And was injured.

yep, i'm less worried about Fisher than i am our guards,wrs and secondary.

and Sutton tbh ... i'm not sure Sutton is any good at all.

or Emmit Thomas either

or Dorsey

or the Hunt family


:sulk:

Pitt Gorilla 09-11-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10903038)
You have access to the PFF grades, don't you?

Clay, this was for you. I thought you had a subscription to PFF. They aren't the be-all and end-all, but they're pretty good.

The Franchise 09-11-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10903190)
Clay, this was for you. I thought you had a subscription to PFF. They aren't the be-all and end-all, but they're pretty good.

Nope....he doesn't.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 10903111)
Surprise bitches! Fisher was solid.

Yep, when I pick 1.1, I always look for "solid".

Like a good, fiber-rich turd.

Solid.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-11-2014 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10903068)
Too much I don't give a shit would rather enjoy my Sundays on the golf course or doing honey do's for the wife...

This shit hole franchise is killing my love for the game.

Sucks to be you

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10903343)
Sucks to be you

Not really. The league itself is becoming an estrogen-fest. Harrison was RIGHT.

OldSchool 09-11-2014 03:36 PM

I just want an OL that is nasty and no DL wants to play against. Bring Incognito in.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10903354)
I just want an OL that is nasty and no DL wants to play against. Bring Incognito in.

He might steal Reid's sammich.

No can do.

OldSchool 09-11-2014 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10903359)
He might steal Reid's sammich.

No can do.

Even better, seems like Incognito is a saver of lives as well, someone needs to save Reid from that extra sammich. Bring him in.:hmmm:

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10903365)
Even better, seems like Incognito is a saver of lives as well, someone needs to save Reid from that extra sammich. Bring him in.:hmmm:

LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 09-11-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10903346)
Not really. The league itself is becoming an estrogen-fest. Harrison was RIGHT.

Golf sucks dick.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-11-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10903387)
Golf sucks dick.

ROFL

Coochie liquor 09-11-2014 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10903359)
He might steal Reid's sammich.

No can do.

Ummmm.... Richie have you seen my triple meat Italian with a couple meatballs on top footlong sub from Subway?
No boss, (smacks his lips)

Coochie liquor 09-11-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 505 Chief (Post 10903346)
Not really. This board itself is becoming an estrogen-fest. And I'm a big part of it.

FYP

Reerun_KC 09-11-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10903343)
Sucks to be you

Yeah its a terrible life I live.

Reerun_KC 09-11-2014 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10903387)
Golf sucks dick.

If that was the case you would be a tour pro. /sarcasm.

xztop123 09-11-2014 06:18 PM

Fulton hurts the offense in many ways. One of the reason our screens were so good last year is we had a very fast explosive OL. I dont understand his upside... i guess cheap mauler


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