Any hope for Defense?
 

I can see us getting better on offense but i just don't see much room for improvement on defense.

Offense:
Bowe comes back
Stephenson comes back
DaT comes back
Oline merry-go-round starts to gel(will help on the missed stunts)
Fisher (has only been able to work on upper body strength for a week or 2, he should continue to get stronger. That will bring improvement against bull rushes)
Reid - even with all his faults he knows offense and will develop the offense throughout the year.

Defense:
DJ not coming back
Devito not coming back
Hali not getting younger
Sean Smith not getting younger
Cooper coming back
Mays might be coming back
Sutton hasn't shown any ability to adapt or develop anything
Emmit Thomas hasn't develop much of anything since inheriting Flowers/Carr.

Special teams:
DaT coming back
Is Santos any good?
Dave Toub is good so the unit should improve

Offense should improve
ST should improve
Defense - meh

against a fairly mediocre Titan team we looked terrible, how is the defense going to improve?

No.

No

other than Berry, Charles, or Smith getting injured for the year, I dont know if this season could have started out any worse. So far this season looks very 2011-ish.

Scrapheap free agents!

I guess there's also very very slim hope that the young players we're relying on like Allen Bailey and Marcus Cooper will start to "get it." Even someone like Poe is only in his 3rd year and his 2nd as a full time starter. He might improve.

There's the slim hope that the replacements like JMJ are actually good. Finally, Catapano will figure to be coming back at midseason.

All of these options have tiny chances of working out, and even if they do, there's still the issue of even mediocre QBs like Locker picking on assholes like Sean Smith all game, exploiting our weak areas hardcore.

JimCarreySoThere'sAChance gif

Outlook - not so good.

They've cut Sorenson so this season's over anyway.

The Mormon flags are still at half mast.

ROFLROFLROFL WTF?!?!??!

Poe, Houston, and Berry are all I really give a shit about on our defense. Maybe Cooper just for the fact that he might be good, and Hali only if he accepts a team friendly deal so we can see what Ford can do before we're stuck with jack shit at ROLB. And we may as well see what Gaines can bring but I'm not expecting anything.

yes

they will play about 30 minutes of decent football every other game

But will it be...................................














































"Good Football"????? :drool:

Arrelious Benn

The Trashman Cometh.

DJ and Devito injuries aside, I dont blame the defense much for that one... they were getting pressure early as evidenced by 4 sacks, they were forcing three and outs early on, the Titans only had one big play - the 40 some yard bomb IIRC.

The problem with this game was the offense, no question about it in my mind.... they were atleast moving the ball early, which kept the D fresh... but once they started shitting the bed with three and outs and turnovers, the D started losing confidence and got gassed.

Even without DJ, defense is still the strength of this team.

None at all. We got exposed by Locker. Just wait til Peyty Pie gets ahold of us Sunday.

No, not really. This defense as is looks to give up 27+ points a game this season... which should easily put them in the bottom 10. I don't see the bleh offense matching that very often. As they are, bottom 3 OL and bottom 3 WRs.

Maybe KC can actually add some quality at WR in the offseason.
Re-stock at ILB.. at FS..

.. and maybe the OL pieces can improve throughout 2014 to a middle-of-the-pack level.

KC should have some good draft picks, improvements at OL, and additions by June 2015. Likely will be a relevant AFC team pushing for a playoff spot then.

2014 looks to be a waste of the fans' time.

Literally every poster here with half a brain saw this coming.

Except you and the other Alexsexual morons.

Mmm... maybe we should use all of our picks on linemen for the new franchise QB/dumbass fan.

Alexcuses give me boner.

I saw it as a genuine possibility, but chose to be optimistic. Ooops. How embarrassed I iz... not. :shrug:

There's that futile anger again... boo-hoo... go beat on your pillow some more as you weep, child. Will be ok.

Your boo is going to die.

I am going to laugh.

no surprise to me that you are "that kind" of person.. good luck with that.

Who needs luck in this case? Can't wait.

disagree completely

We never have been able to agree on much though. It's usually like we have watched too completely different games.

I somewhat agree. First half defense was pretty good. I think the TOP and loss of DJ got them gassed. Pass D fell apart across the board in the second half. Couldn't really blame one player, they all got beat at some point. TN actually executed some nice screens, the way KC should have.

I think the loss of DJ will be pretty big.

according to the magic 8 ball, all signs point to No

Just another grown ass man acting like he's entitled to a championship because he's a "fan". So many on here it's ridiculous!

How about being "entitled" to a competent franchise? That's a start, Lil' Chiefy.

No.

How about not being entitled dumb ass! I get it, you've jumped ship like any good fan would do. You aren't spending your money or time on this franchise anymore. But then here you are still spending your time on it. I'm sure the team is also gonna miss the $100 a year you might have spent on it prior to jumping ship. But I think they'll likely get by. And guess what they've already moved on and forgot about you. Yet your here crying like an ex girlfriend who lost the love of her life and pretends to have moved on but still stalks her ex! Too bad you can't see it cuz your on the inside looking out!!

The answer is "no".

I'm watching two things:

1) Rome burn

2) Your inevitable fall and conversion to the dark side.

Since winning the Super Bowl the Chiefs as if they are uninterested in winning championships in favor of high profits at best or totally incompetent in fielding a professional team at worst.

But by all means, enjoy getting blackout drunk and risking DUIs leaving Arrowhead in September while watching Andrew Luck and Cam Newton in the playoffs in January. It's obviously all you care about.

His faith will not save him.

Can't wait.

Like everyone else, it's just a matter of time.

Love yourself.

Do that so on Sundays the drinks won't kill you.

Oh come on my sweets, we agree all the time!

Having said that, you cant possibly see the offense as this teams strength, do you? The fact is, most of our so-called talent resides on the defense.

Heres a read I really enjoyed from AP, it spares no criticism for either side of the ball and gets to the heart of what myself and so many others here have said since forever... this team, through various regimes, has lacked heart, period.

The players NEVER seem angry about their plight, its just another day at the office...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/9...-titans-week-1

That's where you e got me ****ed up! I love my Chiefs, but I'm not delusional like many. I understand it's a game, and for entertainment. I don't get mad when they don't "follow my draft board" or pick someone I feel is a reach. Why? Because I'm not employed by the team to do that stuff so I could care less. I'm not entitled and feeling like they owe me anything because they don't. When they lose it sucks, but I can go to the beach, get some pussy and life goes on!
I'm sure nobody in this organization wants to win a championship more the Hunt. Why wouldn't he? To think otherwise is preposterous! That's the whole point of putting the money I to it. It's the ULTIMATE way to bring MORE MONEY to the team! Why don't you leave the real football to the experts who get paid for it! They're much better at it than you, or you'd be doing that, and they'd be working the counter at Circle K instead of vise versa.

Uh huh....

I'll wait.

I've got patience down to a science at this point.

Yep

lol

So far Dorsey isn't.

1/2 of CP would have drafted better than Dorsey the last two years...

Truth.

Exactly my point. Nobody cares how CP would have drafted because it's NOT THEIR JOB! That would be like saying "I'm gonna vote for Obama because Lil Wayne said I should"

And also it's been 2 drafts. I class has been here for a year, the other has been here 1 game. But it's cool you must be a REAL EXPERT because you can identify a draft class after 1 game!

You're assuming the guys in the 32 franchise FOs deserved to be there by virtue of their player evaluation abilities.

Spoiler alert: most aren't. All it takes to be on a coaching staff or front office is having a good reputation from an owner or a successful GM or head coach.

CP cares.

And since you're here, it means that you have a deep investment in the cares of CP.

Congrats!

If you don't blow up in epic rants because your team doesn't follow your exact desire then you're nothing but a homer.

I can identify players that the coaching staff thinks don't deserve to start or contribute.

And they drafted these @$$holes.

I can also read. As a result I can read the injury history of most of these draft picks and have the common sense to know it's a problem.

I also can understand basic ideas like not filling areas of need with talent.

You don't have to be an NFL GM to know we needed help at WR.

Only the Chiefs thought the Chiefs didn't need help at WR. They are very, very wrong...

You silly ****ing noob.

Yeah, I forgot:

Chiefs fans are the only fans in the NFL who do this kind of thing...

What? I can run circular bullshit with the best of them! :D

What do the actions of another teams fans have to do with the price of tea in China?

Some people here aren't Chiefs fans. Most, if not all, come strictly for the poop threads and Zach's MLS threads.

Well, I somewhat figured the point would be obvious, but....

(throws hands up)

No. We'll be around 25th in the league at best with losing DJ and Devito. Teams are going to gash us with the run and we couldn't stop the passing game in the first place.

I think good defense is scheme, and great defense is having stud players in the right scheme.

Patience hell I was 13, same age as lil chiefy in 1970. I've been waiting my whole ****ing life to see 2 more playoff wins and zero Super Bowls. I'm tired of waiting let's do this shit right.

So throw your daily tantrum and see where that gets you?

Good plan! :)

Just like you right. Like I said stalker ex girlfriend! Lmao! The stalker ex does t think she's a stalker. Sound familiar?

You can keep waiting. But bottom line is if you're so unhappy quit following the team like so many claim to want to do. Like I said, the team will push on without your support. Every fan has been suffering, not just you. Most understand their roile as a fan, not you. They owe me a win!! I know more than the experts! Ridiculously idiotic!

Ummm... Yeah! It's just easy to get a job in a FO of a nFL franchise. The. You should go take your mad skills to the 32 teams. I'm sure somebody will see that you are so knowledgable, and hire you on into their scouting dept! But if that doesn't work just think long and hard about this possibility....

I don't think that the offense is a strength. It just has a ton more upside. imo.

Oline is in flux and should improve quite a bit with the return of Stephenson and some time to work together.

WR will improve some with the return of Bowe.

Reid has proven he can tweak successfully.


If you protect Alex Smith he will look much better and our mediocre receivers will have longer to work their routes.


Defense on the other hand ... don't see much improvement coming there. Cooper is their best chance to improve.

Better than sticking my head squarely up my butt and whistling happy tunes. But carry-on.

I agree about the offense, all of that should help... Reid wont again be forgetting Charles anytime soon, Bowe is back, the line is one game (weeeeee) better, Kelce will have a bigger role on sunday, Sherman will have a bigger role etc.

But the defense is the one with 5 Pro Bowlers and in my mind, they are underperforming like a BAWCE... a bunch of individual talents who aren't playing with the kind of fire and heart one is justified in expecting from such a collection of talent.

The culture of suck, of "well atleast I'm still a multi-millionaire win or lose" is still here IMO, its proving harder to root out than I could have ever imagined.

We lost the first game of the season. Season is over....

big difference in putting blinders on VS throwing optimism on what could turn out to be better than it looks.

Being optimistic doesn't cost anything.
Being a pouting bitch doesn't cost anything either.. but sure makes you look pathetic.

:shrug:

Agreed, they simply haven't been playing up to their potential and haven't been performing well as a unit at all.

Damn well said.

And that's taking into account the fact that they were left hanging to dry in many instances on sunday... nonetheless, that many so-called "studs" have NO excuse to pack it in like that, if they had actually been "strengthened and toughened" by the playoff loss, the core leaders would've never allowed that blowout to happen. They would've been harassing Locker until the final buzzer.

I get the feeling me smacking the D like this will eventually cause me problems here, I just don't give a shit... they have no excuse, one Musketeer went down? Well you still have FOUR you mfers.

They have no excuses IMO, a core of vets who've been together like Hali, Houston, Berry and Poe? They SHOULD be good enough to prevent a prison rape and they weren't on sunday... too much more of this and I'll be fine with ditching a bunch of these guys.

To be honest, as far as re-watching? I got as far as the missed (doink) FG attempt, and just stopped. Didn't wish to waste time on the rest.

Don't mind taking your word that the D lost intensity. I felt like after the first few KC offense drives... the whole team seemed to deflate... but that was just my feeling while watching live.

You keep thinking about all the defensive pro bowlers next week when we only make Dungver punt twice.

They are going to pick/crossing route the holy crap out of us.

Julius Thomas should go 7 for 140 on us because we still don't have a free safety.

Our offense will only plan and practice a short conservative attack again. Only to have us fall behind so quickly that we have to throw it all out the window and start trying to do stuff we don't practice.

****ing stubborn ass Andy Reid :(

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

It wasn't just you... it was the entire stadium according to gblowfish, it was every fan in his living room like me, it just had that eerily familiar quality to it, we'd seen it play out way too many times.

When a missed FG takes the steam outta your team, theres a LEADERSHIP problem... with both the HC and his players.

And really, the D held on past that doinked FG, but that's no excuse for them... too much talent, not enough heart... it was almost like they were tired of saving the day and decided to let the offense do it.

Unfortunately, it was painfully clear that the offense couldn't correctly wipe its own ass that day.

It's a sad day when the SD defense looked heads and shoulders above ours despite the miscues from their own offense.

If Big Red has a noodle left in his head that's EXACTLY how he will call the game, he will go against type and run the hell out of JC and Knile, throwing in dinks and dunks all the while.

ANYTHING to keep Fivehead off the field, because the smart money says this All Star defense isn't up to the task of stopping him... once Denver gets up by two scores just bench the whole unit because they're gonna give up anyway.

So help me God I'd get the biggest thrill out of seeing Reid run the shit out of the ball, control the clock and keep that golden boy c*cksucker off the field... he would hate every minute of it, but it would be the best game he ever called.

ROFL