Wichita youth football coach attacked - wife with gun to the rescue
 

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/cri...le2032390.html
Group attacks Wichita youth football coach over player’s eligibility; coach’s wife defends with gun



By Stan Finger
The Wichita Eagle

09/09/2014 11:32 AM
09/10/2014 8:36 AM

WICHITA Police are still looking for the men who they said threatened a youth football league coach with a gun and then began beating him after a dispute over playing time. The coach’s wife pulled out a gun and fired it in the air to scare the men away.

The incident occurred at about 7:45 p.m. Monday at Linwood Park in south Wichita, Lt. James Espinoza said.

The Wichita Tigers, who are part of the Greater Wichita Junior Football League, were practicing at Linwood Park when the mother of a former player confronted the coach over her son not being allowed to play in the season opener on last Saturday, said Jeremy Burris, director of the Tigers football program.

Burris would not say how old the player is. The league has teams for each age group between second and eighth grades.
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</aside>The player was with the Tigers for about one week last season before he was removed from the team for what Burris called “a character issue.”
Family members played loud music and cursed loudly during practices and were a disruptive presence, he said.

The league’s code of conduct stipulates teams can be removed from the league for repeated occurrences of behavior such as misconduct at games. The code of conduct also sets out expected behavior for parents, coaches, players and spectators.

The player in question has recently played for three different teams in the league.

He played with the Tigers for one week last season, joined Saints for the rest of the 2013 season and then joined the Cowboys for the 2014 season, Burris said. But the boy was not allowed to play last Saturday because he had not turned in his football equipment to the Saints after last season ended.

“It’s kind of a mutual understanding between teams,” said Jerome Crawford, director of the Wichita Titans, who practice at Planeview Park. “The only way to maintain our stuff (equipment) is to not allow them to play for another team until we get our stuff back.”

Because the Cowboys were playing the Tigers on Saturday, Burris said, the woman thought “we were the ones that made her kid not play. We had nothing to do with it.”

The woman came to the park Monday night and began yelling at the coach, prompting the “team mom” to step in and urge her to calm down, Burris said.

The woman left and police were called to the park. They interviewed witnesses and left.

About 20 minutes after the police left, Burris said, a group of men walked up to the field in the park at 1901 S. Kansas and asked which coach had talked to their relative. When they found out, they confronted him.

One of the men lifted his shirt to display a handgun tucked into the waist of his pants, Espinoza said. Moments later, five or six other men began beating up the 37-year-old coach. One of the men used a set of brass knuckles, Espinoza said.

Seeing the attack, the coach’s wife pulled out a gun and fired a warning shot into the air, Burris said.

The coach broke free of his attackers and went to his car for a second gun, which he pointed at various people in the crowd, Espinoza said.

The attackers had all fled the park by the time officers arrived, Espinoza said. The guns used by the coach and his wife were confiscated as evidence. No arrests have been made.

“It’s upsetting to even hear a story like this,” said Espinoza, who is a youth league football coach himself. “It just sets a terrible example of coaching and parenting.”

He encouraged anyone who recorded video of the disturbance to contact investigators at 316-268-4646.

The coach who was involved in the clash and pulled out a gun after being attacked has been relieved of his coaching duties, Burris said. His wife was also dismissed from involvement with the team.

“He’s been a great role model” for kids, Burris said of the coach, who has been with the Tigers for a few years and worked in the league for at least 15 years. “He’s really helped.”

Despite that background, Burris said, “you can’t take weapons out around children.”

Both the coach and his wife have concealed-carry permits for their weapons, he said.

League officials declined to comment on the incident, citing the ongoing police investigation.

“Nothing like this has ever happened in this organization,” said Burris, who said he has been affiliated with the Tigers for 20 years. “We pride ourselves on zero tolerance for anything that goes on.”

That’s why they released the boy from the team last year and why they dismissed the coach following the altercation Monday night, he said.

Burris and Crawford both said they planned to meet with parents of players to talk about what happened Monday night.

“We’re supposed to be good role models,” Crawford said.

Reach Stan Finger at 316-268-6437 or sfinger@wichitaeagle.com. Follow him on Twitter: @StanFinger.

Punish the innocent victims, I always say.

That coach could have been killed, and for defending himself, he gets canned.

Sounds like a quality group of people who undoubtedly contribute a lot to society.

Yeah, I think the coach got a raw deal. Although I would like more explanation on the part about pointing the gun at the crowd. Was it just the crowd of thugs that had attacked him? Or was it a mix of parents, kids, thugs, etc.?

I fail to see how the coach (or his wife for that matter) did anything wrong other than possibly this line, and without seeing it, I can't say "The coach broke free of his attackers and went to his car for a second gun, which he pointed at various people in the crowd, Espinoza said". Sounds to me like this Burris fellow may have taken one too many knocks to the noggin.

Yep, that's why my son quit football and went to golf. Too many of 'those types' running around.

I'm sure the wife will get locked up for 5, years for firing th gun.

Yeah, that's what I don't get. You're not allowed to defend yourself against an attack by several people, of whom some are carrying guns themselves? For all the league knows, the bad guys might have ended up shooting children if they hadn't been chased away.

"The coach has been a wonderful role model for these children for 15 years, but we simply cant have him defending himself from 6 scumball attackers, atleast one of whom was armed".

Youth football parents are always the cream of the crop. My brother is an assistant coach on my nephew's team....so I go to all the games. The parents that are there....shouldn't be having kids.

Assuming this part is true, he deserved to get canned.

Do you think he and his wife were aiming at the innocent bystanders?

Or does "crowd" more than likely mean the 6 assholes who came down to start a potentially deadly fight over youth football?

I know which scenario makes more sense to me...

We need aturnis in here to clarify if this is a crowd or a gang.

You can make up whatever story you want in your head, I really don't care. The story from the paper doesn't make it clear who made up the crowd.

Were the 6 people just standing in a circle to the side of the rest of the bystanders? How close were they to the other bystanders? Were the 6 people mixed in with the rest of the bystanders?

At least it was a group that attacked him, and not a gang. THAT would have been bad.

I don't see anything wrong with him retreiving his gun from his car in the face of an angry mob which has already attacked him and is brandishing weapons.

The way I'm reading this is that those 6 were standing around her husband kicking his ass and that the people NOT involved in the beating were almost certainly NOT near the action.

But you go ahead and dream up scenarios that don't make any sense, I don't really care.

So this coach is getting assaulted by 6 people and everyone else in the area is just going about their business?

You are one obtuse moran.

Yeah, because something like that NEVER happens in society today. /sarcasm

Yep, all of the other parents present just decided to join in for the hell of it.

Because I can't take the details given by a newspaper story and create some fantasy with them?

victim blaming. Gotta love america.

what the hell else are you supposed to do with a handgun other than point it at people?

Shoot a WhawhaWhat in its **** :shrug:

Maybe they were disciplined by the school for carrying a fireman to a school youth practice. I honestly don't know all the ins and outs of carry/conceal. The paper does a poor job of explaining why the coach and wife were dismissed.

I hope the put these guys in prison. What lowlife ignorant pieces of shit.

Kansas, the 3rd florida (behind florida and arizona).

I bet they're white.

Who cares...he'd been beaten with brass knuckles according to the article.

And something tells me there are considerable details missing from this story.

Apparently you need a firearm to coach in that league.

There is something about some parents & youth football. I don't know what it is. Parents yelling at refs, kids, coaches from the stands and in practice. It's crazy. As a parent of a 4th grader that has played tackle this year & last, you run into some of the worst human beings when you have a kid playing youth football. Most parents aren't like that, but the ones that are make sure you know it.

I would imagine the latter are looking at their kid as a meal ticket.

Back when I was coaching Pop Warner, if the parents did show up, I'd take note of how tall they were and if dad was under 6', I wouldn't really play his kid cause he probably wasn't going to develop into anything anyway. Plus, if dad had beef with it, I really didn't have much to worry about.

Haha.
What's funny is I am 5'8. My youngest is 6'5. He played football until his Junior year.

Just a feel good story all around.

If one of the coaches' players or a parent had a gun pointed at them in the process of him allegedly pointing it only at the attackers, aren't they victims too?

And again I'll say that we don't know who was in the crowd that he pointed the gun at, so the point could all be moot if those details are revealed.

Gotta get my wife to read this article so she knows the level of protection I expect from her.

I guess I didn't make that as clear as I could have. I meant I'm not sure I would have been okay with him pointing the gun if the crowd was full of parents and family of the other kids on the team. If he was just pointing at those 6 thugs and whomever was with them then I have no problem with it. A man has a right to defend himself.

My son was in youth football from 2nd grade through 5th and I can relate to this. I saw a couple of parents get into a fight after a game. Several of us other parents had to break them up. :shake:

All of them WAAAAAYYYYYY behind Mexico...

racist dumb**** is dumb.

I would bet since no one tried to help him he probably felt like it him against the world. I know I did when I attacked but a bunch of people. Either way, I think this "league" has done him a favor.

Ah yeah... guns... * splooge, splooge*... guns.... ah yeah....

“Seeing the attack, the coach’s wife pulled out a gun and fired a warning shot into the air, Burris said.
The coach broke free of his attackers and went to his car for a second gun, which he pointed at various people in the crowd, Espinoza said.
The attackers had all fled the park by the time officers arrived, Espinoza said. The guns used by the coach and his wife were confiscated as evidence. No arrests have been made.”


The article sure does a poor job of telling the story and leaves me wanting answers.

Is it illegal to discharge a firearm in Wichita to stop a crime?

Who are the various people?

If the guns were confiscated, it seems the police are considering charging the couple with some sort of crime.

Any idea how long the police can confiscate a person’s firearm/property before they have to press charges or return them?

No mention is made of mention of charges filed or an investigation into the attackers? Hummm

I agree, unless you have a badge, I'm aiming at anyone approaches in this situation. Good for him and his wife. Shame on the league for punishing this guy.

She should of fired it into the dirt. That bullet hit something. Hopefully the ground. Should have known better on that. But I do not really blame her or him.

The league sounds like a joke. Zero tolerance, yet this kid with his family has been on three teams? But 15 year coach that was a good member, fired.

Maybe the parents will drop out and form their own league.

Parents of Little League Boxing?

Coach is a big fan of the Shotgun and pistol formations.

Too bad it didn't work out, kid had a rifle for an arm.

Probably for the best that they dismissed the dad. For his own safety and the safety of the other kids.

Sounds like these idiots wouldnt have a problem returning at a later date and spraying the whole practice field with shells.

In the end whatt may look like a punishment for the coach is more of a safety issue for everybody else.

WTF is happening today?

It's hump day.

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Dude, in spite of our often widely divergent views, I've always respected you for speaking your mind without regard for "popular opinion" around here... but, what MIGHT have happened had his wife not been armed?

You make guns sound so evil, when in fact, a gun just might have stopped a murder or, at the least, incredibly vicious beating with brass knuckles... tell me you wouldn't be glad someone pulled a gun on them if it were YOU in the middle of that scum pile.

People need to just get their CC and STFU about it. I'm tired hearing about all gun nut hero vs bad guy bullshit. Really tired of it.

"We pride ourselves on taking action without considering the situation. If we had to use intelligent human judgement we'd instantly know the coach is not to blame here, but we have a very strict zero intelligence policy that decides these complex matters for us."

With so much anti-gun hoopla out there these todays, stories like this are damn well needed... "gun nut hero?"

Yeah man screw all of those sickening stories of innocent people stopping brutal crimes because they were smart enough to be armed.

If Sandor Clegane were alive today, he'd carry a big ass gun.

...and he'd use it to kill a butcher's innocent son :drool:

Ahhh, very clever my non friend... turn what I said into a statement about your own bias and stupidity! You're a sharp bastard son, arent you...