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Direckshun 08-30-2014 08:56 PM

What do we know about the Titans.
 
No point in putting this 5-11 season off any longer.

Let's talk about our first opponent. Who I happen to know nothing about.

First up, their QB position is manned by Jake Locker. Locker actually looked okay on his time on the field.

Their RB corps is alright. They've got Shonn Green, who nobody gives a shit about. But they've also got rookie Bishop Sankey, and from the sounds of it, they love him. They also have Leon Washington, who I've always been a big fan of.

It's well known at this point that the Chiefs have the league's worst WR corps. However, the Titans come close: Kendall Wright is your only surefire #2 caliber WR. Nate Washington, Dexter McCluster, and Justin Hunter are all #3 caliber. Delanie Walker is their only tight end worth anything.

Their line is pretty damn good, however. Roos is a Top Ten left tackle (that Hali nonetheless took to school recently), Levitre and Warmack are quality guards, Schwenke is a good center and Oher is fairly consistent at RT. Add into the fact that Locker is difficult to chase down, and it's going to be tough sledding for the passrushers.

On defense, they're alright. They've got a lot of guys who are decent starters, and guys that would be elite backups.

We know as well as anybody that Ropati Pitoitua is not a world beater, but Jurrell Casey on the other side is pretty good. Sammie Lee Hill at the nose is a bear to move off the ball.

Derrick Morgan and Kamerion Wimbley are their rushbackers, with Akeem Ayers rotating in. That's a solid if unspectacular group of passrushers -- it will be a good warmup for Eric Fisher before he gets skull****ed by DeMarcus Ware. Zach Brown and Wesley Woodyard are their ILBs.

It's well known that the Chiefs have the worst secondary in the NFL with Berry missing time, but the Titans come close. Coty Sensabaugh and Jason McCourty are their starters at the position -- yeaahhhhh...

Their safeties are Michael Griffin and Bernard Pollard. Tennessee is where disappointing Chiefs go to die, apparently.

They have Rob Bironas, who outside of Roos is like the only other elite talent on this team.

Saccopoo 08-30-2014 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10865033)
No point in putting this 5-11 season off any longer.

Let's talk about our first opponent. Who I happen to know nothing about.

The end.

Good post.

Mennonite 08-30-2014 09:02 PM

I live in TN, but I don't follow the Titans very closely. I don't think this is a very accurate assessment of the team though. I think they cut Bironas for one thing. Justin Hunter looks like he might be pretty good. Their defense is going through some big changes and they will likely be bad. Especially early in the season. Locker looked very good before he got hurt last year. He has looked iffy in preseason this year.

Red Dawg 08-30-2014 09:03 PM

We know they have more talent at WR and DB and OL.

TimBone 08-30-2014 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 10865127)
I live in TN, but I don't follow the Titans very closely. I don't think this is a very accurate assessment of the team though. I think they cut Bironas for one thing. Justin Hunter looks like he might be pretty good. Their defense is going through some big changes and they will likely be bad. Especially early in the season. Locker looked very good before he got hurt last year. He has looked iffy in preseason this year.

How accurate could it have been? He started it off by saying he didn't know shit about them, and then gave a full scouting report.

Ming the Merciless 08-30-2014 09:08 PM

did you forget Jackie Battle???!!!

He mighr be out for BLOOD and get some kind of 3rd and short goal line action

-King- 08-30-2014 09:09 PM

They're an NFL team in the AFC South.

Deberg_1990 08-30-2014 09:10 PM

Locker has been mostly terrible in his NFL career

RealSNR 08-30-2014 09:12 PM

They're a really boring team. Even when they had Steve McNair.

Jeff Fisher's musk still impregnates the atmosphere of the locker room.

a pp roach 08-30-2014 09:14 PM

tits

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:29 PM

They are better than us.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:30 PM

Jason McCourty is a #1 CB and Coty Sensabaugh is a very good #2.

You don't know what you're talking about Direckshun.

Griffin is a very good complement at safety. That's a tough D.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:31 PM

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...y-cb-matchups/

Quote:

Jason McCourty has been one of the top fantasy corners for IDP gamers for several seasons, but this data suggests he is also one of the tougher cornerbacks to throw on for fantasy purposes too. The fifth ranked of the six cornerbacks who covered WR1s for more than 40 percent of their snaps who made this top 20 list, McCourty played three shadow games last year, covering Andre Johnson twice and Demaryius Thomas once, showing that the Titans clearly favored his talent level over Alterraun Verner.

This was confirmed when Verner was allowed to depart in free agency this offseason for Tampa Bay. Interestingly, Verner allowed fewer fantasy points per snap than McCourty (0.068 vs 0.079), but McCourty was handed the tougher coverage duty more often than not, facing WR1s on 42% of snaps compared to Verner’s 28%.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865374)
Jason McCourty is a #1 CB and Coty Sensabaugh is a very good #2.

You don't know what you're talking about Direckshun.

Griffin is a very good complement at safety. That's a tough D.

Sure. Marcus Cooper is a number one. Same thing.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865386)
Sure. Marcus Cooper is a number one. Same thing.

I can't believe people here don't know who Jason McCourty is. He's a very good corner.

Coty Sensabaugh gave up a GRAND TOTAL of 221 yards last year. Didn't Cooper allow that in one game?

http://sportsbysharona.files.wordpre...rage-stats.jpg

Mav 08-30-2014 09:34 PM

Was talking about mccourty.

They are both jags


The chiefs have the better qb. The chiefs will commit less turnovers.

The chiefs will win.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865402)
Was talking about mccourty.

They are both jags

Really? Where's the evidence for that? Other than ignorance.

notorious 08-30-2014 09:35 PM

Corners don't matter when our QB throws to TE's and RB's.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865417)
Really? Where's the evidence for that? Other than ignorance.

Well sorry, I'm not looking up idp fantasy information because truthfully I don't give a crap. The chiefs are a better team, and will win.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10865419)
Corners don't matter when our QB throws to TE's and RB's.

I'm guessing our WRs have about 3 catches this game.

Alex less than 150 yards passing.

notorious 08-30-2014 09:39 PM

3?


Who the hell at WR is going to combine for 3 catches?

beach tribe 08-30-2014 09:40 PM

They wear blue and have oil derricks on their helmets?

No?

TimBone 08-30-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10865432)
3?


Who the hell at WR is going to combine for 3 catches?

We're counting drops as .5.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865417)
Really? Where's the evidence for that? Other than ignorance.

You actually provided the evidence. Lol. 85+ rating when targeted for a slot corner? 65% completion percentage? Targeted 40 times in the season and you are hyping him?

Don't talk anymore. You really are clueless. Lmao!

beach tribe 08-30-2014 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10865432)
3?


Who the hell at WR is going to combine for 3 catches?

LMAO

Gotta give you credit, Clay
To still be hookin' em left and right like this....amazing.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865426)
I'm guessing our WRs have about 3 catches this game.

Alex less than 150 yards passing.

That's probably about right.

notorious 08-30-2014 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10865441)
We're counting drops as .5.

Bowe isn't playing.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865442)
You actually provided the evidence. Lol. 85+ rating when targeted for a slot corner? 65% completion percentage? Targeted 40 times in the season and you are hyping him?

Don't talk anymore. You really are clueless. Lmao!

Look at the yards allowed. By both corners. Only 1 TD apiece allowed all year.

I'm surprised I even have to explain this to people. Jason McCourty has been a very good CB for a few years now.

You'll see Week 1.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865447)
LMAO

Gotta give you credit, Clay
To still be hookin' em left and right like this....amazing.

Nah. They are rolling out Hammond and Avery? Gonna be tough . Charles may have 200 apy in this game

Crush 08-30-2014 09:43 PM

We know they're going to beat us.

TimBone 08-30-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10865449)
Bowe isn't playing.

Avery and Jenkins will do just fine!

notorious 08-30-2014 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10865463)
Avery and Jenkins will do just fine!

Did Dwayne lend them a few pairs of gloves? ;)

beach tribe 08-30-2014 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865448)
That's probably about right.

He'll have about 200.
100 will be screens, but....

Mav 08-30-2014 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865453)
Look at the yards allowed. By both corners. Only 1 TD apiece allowed all year.

I'm surprised I even have to explain this to people. Jason McCourty has been a very good CB for a few years now.

You'll see Week 1.

Sensabaugh, is jag. Mccourty benefited from playing across from Verner. He is gone. I agree that their corners will play great. Who are the chiefs going to throw to?

Mav 08-30-2014 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865472)
He'll have about 200.
100 will be screens, but....

I personally don't have a problem with that. That's not an insult to me.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865473)
Sensabaugh, is jag.

Better than any of our CBs.

Direckshun 08-30-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865485)
Better than any of our CBs.

Low bar.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865485)
Better than any of our CBs.

Again. So what? No Bowe, and the titans aren't going to be able to score. Their qb is Jake locker.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 08-30-2014 09:48 PM

What are the Madden ratings?

beach tribe 08-30-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865478)
I personally don't have a problem with that. That's not an insult to me.

Man, you are so ****ing used to getting beat down.

I wasn't insulting you.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865492)
Again. So what? No Bowe, and the titans aren't going to be able to score. Their qb is Jake locker.

On this D? Anyone can score.

We gave up 31 points to Matt McGloin.

Just Passin' By 08-30-2014 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865473)
Sensabaugh, is jag. Mccourty benefited from playing across from Verner. He is gone. I agree that their corners will play great. Who are the chiefs going to throw to?

Verner's a zone CB. How the hell did that benefit McCourty?

Mav 08-30-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865503)
Man, you are so ****ing used to getting beat down.

I wasn't insulting you.

Yeah. Poor me. *eye roll* Because people here don't use Charles use in the passing game as a way to insult alex.

See the raiders game day thread if you think I'm wrong.

beach tribe 08-30-2014 09:53 PM

TN allowed 6 less yards a game through the air than Indy, and Alex took a light saber to Indy's D.

Peyton hung a 50 burger on TN.
39 on INdy.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10865513)
Verner's a zone CB. How the hell did that benefit McCourty?

Just keep on passing by.......

beach tribe 08-30-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865519)
Yeah. Poor me. *eye roll* Because people here don't use Charles use in the passing game as a way to insult alex.

See the raiders game day thread if you think I'm wrong.

Another example of thinking you have to defend yourself or Alex from an imagined threat.

Like I said. Beat the **** down.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865521)
TN allowed 6 less yards a game through the air than Indy, and Alex took a light saber to Indy's D.

Peyton hung a 50 burger on TN.
39 on INdy.

You're looking at the wrong statistics.

That pass defense led the NFL in TD passes allowed.

Just Passin' By 08-30-2014 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865492)
Again. So what? No Bowe, and the titans aren't going to be able to score. Their qb is Jake locker.

Tennessee was 19th in points scored last year, not 32nd. They're an inconsistent group, and they don't have Johnson anymore, but the Chiefs have issues in the secondary and at ILB.

Mav 08-30-2014 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865526)
Another example of thinking you have to defend yourself or Alex from an imagined threat.

Like I said. Beat the **** down.

Like I said. I don't take it as an insult......

So how did that make me seem back down. I think it's a complete fail regardless if the qb was aaron Rodgers if Charles doesn't get 25 touches a game.

Just Passin' By 08-30-2014 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865523)
Just keep on passing by.......

Answer the question

Mav 08-30-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10865532)
Tennessee was 19th in points scored last year, not 32nd. They're an inconsistent group, and they don't have Johnson anymore, but the Chiefs have issues in the secondary and at ILB.

I don't see the issues at ilb. I like jmj. Also I like Abdullah over Lewis. And I'm fine with Cooper and smith, and Owens as the slot. Locker, is a turd

Mav 08-30-2014 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10865537)
Answer the question

No.........

beach tribe 08-30-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865530)
You're looking at the wrong statistics.

That pass defense led the NFL in TD passes allowed.


Why put the ball in the air when you are facing the team that is 30th in the NFL in rushing TDs allowed?

Use your noodle.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865551)
Why put the ball in the air when you are facing the team that is 30th in the NFL in rushing TDs allowed.

Use your noodle.

You compared them to Indy. Their D never played like that.

Mav 08-30-2014 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865551)
Why put the ball in the air when you are facing the team that is 30th in the NFL in rushing TDs allowed.

Use your noodle.

Yeah. I don't think the ball will be in the air. What scares me with the titans is they have ray horton.

Mav 08-30-2014 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865554)
You compared them to Indy. Their D never played like that.

So you really think the chiefs lose?

beach tribe 08-30-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865564)
So you really think the chiefs lose?

O
M
G

Tell him how we are gonna win, win, win Clay!!

:LOL:

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865564)
So you really think the chiefs lose?

Titans 27, Chiefs 13

Mav 08-30-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865575)
O
M
G

Tell him how we are gonna win, win, win Clay!!

:LOL:

Make sure you cup the balls......

Odd, I never knew you to be such a douche nozzle. Ah well

beach tribe 08-30-2014 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865554)
You compared them to Indy. Their D never played like that.

Indy allowed 6 more passing TDs.

TN allowed 6 more rushing TDs.

Indy allowed 6 more Yards per game through the air....in the same division....They are in the same class.

Mav 08-30-2014 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865584)
Titans 27, Chiefs 13

24-14 chiefs

beach tribe 08-30-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865586)
Make sure you cup the balls......

Odd, I never knew you to be such a douche nozzle. Ah well

I used to have your back, but how many ****ing plates of shit are you going to eat before you stop begging for it?
It's ridiculous.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865592)
Indy allowed 6 more passing TDs.

TN allowed 6 more rushing TDs.

Indy allowed 6 more Yards per game through the air....in the same division....They are in the same class.

We won't even have 200 yards passing.

That's a good D.

Mav 08-30-2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865599)
I used to have your back, but how many ****ing plates of shit are you going to eat before you stop begging for it?
It's ridiculous.

At least two more. It's my cheat day!

Mav 08-30-2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865605)
We won't even have 200 yards passing.

That's a good D.

Yah, but they won't be able to score.
I don't see it.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865613)
Yah, but they won't be able to score.

We may have the worst defense in the NFL. We had a terrible defense last year and it got worse. Are you brain dead?

Mav 08-30-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865616)
We may have the worst defense in the NFL. We had a terrible defense last year and it got worse. Are you brain dead?

I don't agree with you.

I may be brain dead who knows.

Hammock Parties 08-30-2014 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865619)
I don't agree with you.

THAT'S NEWS

-King- 08-30-2014 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865447)
LMAO

Gotta give you credit, Clay
To still be hookin' em left and right like this....amazing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10865592)
Indy allowed 6 more passing TDs.

TN allowed 6 more rushing TDs.

Indy allowed 6 more Yards per game through the air....in the same division....They are in the same class.

Heh.

Mav 08-30-2014 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10865622)
THAT'S NEWS

Luckily I'm more right than you are, so there is that.


This convo is so similar to last year.

Rain Man 08-30-2014 10:20 PM

On a related note, I saw a vehicle on Friday that had a license plate frame that read "Tennessee Oilers" and had the Oilers logo. I took this as a good sign.

Ming the Merciless 08-30-2014 10:20 PM

Locker > Smith

Mav 08-30-2014 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 10865628)
Locker > Smith

Reaching............

-King- 08-30-2014 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865626)
Luckily I'm more right than you are, so there is that.


This convo is so similar to last year.

It's similar to EVERY convo you ever engage with Clay in every thread for the past year. Jesus Christ guy, get a clue.

beach tribe 08-30-2014 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10865625)
Heh.

I thought the same thing right when I hit postLMAO

beach tribe 08-30-2014 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10865635)
It's similar to EVERY convo you ever engage with Clay in every thread for the past year. Jesus Christ guy, get a clue.

Thank you.........****

Discuss Thrower 08-30-2014 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10865627)
On a related note, I saw a vehicle on Friday that had a license plate frame that read "Tennessee Oilers" and had the Oilers logo. I took this as a good sign.

Congrats. You found a fan of another franchise stuck in the late 90s.

Get nine or ten wins and sneak into the playoffs!

Ming the Merciless 08-30-2014 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10865631)
Reaching............

yah ALex at 1.1 was a huge reach I agree

even giving two seconds was a reach

beach tribe 08-30-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10865658)
Congrats. You found a fan of another franchise stuck in the late 90s.

Get nine or ten wins and sneak into the playoffs!

Picks a QB in the first every 3-4 years.........Not really that similar in approach.
Just wins.

OldSchool 08-30-2014 10:40 PM

The Titans are far superior to us along their offensive line, their secondary, and their WR core.

Their DL is better than ours as well, Casey is a better interior pass rusher than anyone on our roster is.

Our LB core is better than theirs.

We have the better QB and better RB.


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