No Alex or Charles in the final preseason game
 

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...le1302653.html

heh. spoke before reading the whole article. 1 full quarter of Daniel now. still too many

Fisher with an illness-must have watched his own highlights from preseason.

im shocked! outraged!!!

We've looked like total shit, who needs more time.

Very true, but it's the final preseason game. Probably best not to risk it.

We looked like shit in week 16 last year. Rested the starters week 17 and came out firing on all cylinders (well.. you know) on Wild Card weekend.

Interesting that they don't even want them to play one drive to get a little confidence boost.

An entire MONTH of football without a touchdown from the first-team offense. Wonderful.

Its ****ing awesome!!!! I love not seeing touchdowns by my favorite team.:doh!:

Has Hemingway played any downs in preseason?

Hemingway has always been injury prone since he entered the league. The guy can't stay healthy.

The Packers could possibly set a single game scoring record on us this week.

Why is this a shock?...

At this point I might consider that a good thing.

Eric Fisher not expected to play? Holy shit balls if anyone needs to play it's him. He is sick? What a wuss.


What a ****ing joke.

Risk what?



Risk losing due to injury instead of losing due to shitty play?

Maybe they should keep Charles out of weeks 1 - 16, you know until we can get an offensive line next year.

I'm actually shocked that fans still think preseason games mean anything.


Your smarter than this.












Or maybe not.......

Winning or losing may not matter or mean anything in preseason but how they play does.

Not really

I care more about how the team is playing later in the season than early anyways.


So many teams look bad or average early, then are completely different beasts in the back half if the year. Preseason is mostly meaningless.

Yes. In the grand scheme of things, one measly drive likely wouldn't mean shit. A significant injury would mean very, very much.

Better sit out Berry too I don't want him hurt if he just came back.

You don't think for some players preseason doesn't help give them experience? You don't think valuable experience matters? It matters. Winning and losing may not be important but learning from mistakes & working on fundamentals do matter for the season.

I don't curr about the wins or losses in preseason but I do want to see success and efforts by those who have something to prove.

Oh noes. CPs usual suspects will have a menstrual meltdown.

Sure. Experience matters some obviously.

Especially for the rookies or guys on the edge of getting cut

Proven vets? Very little.


Like I said earlier, a lot of teams don't even completely gel until late in the season.

Safe pick

The Offense is allergic to touchdowns

That makes no sense, if you start shitty chances are you aren't making the playoffs, I could care less how this team looks at the end of the season if they are absolute garbage the first 8 games/2 months.

Oh really ? I think you better look at some NFL history.

This is the smart play. Charles doesn't need any carries, he friggin' knows what he's doing. All he needs is some over-zealous prick from Green Bay laying a helmet in his earhole and having a concussion for 6 weeks.

Alex. We've seen enough. Last season we saw that he has it within himself to be more than just serviceable. Granted, the O-Line and him need to have a come together moment, but one more pre-season game ain't gonna iron all that out.

Fisher...what the ****? That guy needs all the snaps he can get.

Berry. I'd sit him out too, but I guess this indicates he'll be out there at least for awhile.

Rest your starters, get a few of them some reps, and the bore the hell out of everybody. It's preseason. Who could possibly give a shit, or who could think that one more game would make a difference?

I get that people want us to look polished and awesome for the short time our starters are in there, but we've already seen that's not gonna happen. Might as well reload and get to the games that count with the best players you have.

you mean NFL History just as recent as last year? when the Chiefs started 9-0 in the first two months and finished 2-5?

We don't get into the playoffs last year without our good start to the season. So, yes, really.

No it really doesn't. De berg is right.

Charles and Bowe are the only offense starters I care about. On defense, Poe, Berry, DJ, Hali, and Houston. Special teams with Colquitt and DAT. The rest of the guys I could really care less if they get hurt or not. They are all replaceable in my opinion.

Reason number 3,454 why I'm not a head coach. I'd have the starting OL play 3 full quarters and show they can block third stringers.

how about when the Chargers started 5-7, then made the playoffs and won a game.


There are countless examples of of NFL teams starting slow, and still making the playoffs. countless.

I understand what you are saying overall you are correct, but I don't think there is anyway that we beat Donkos, Patriots or 49ers. So we have to beat the Titans and the Dolphins to even start "slow" at 2-3 and if we lose to the Chargers 2-4. Meaning we would likely have to go 8-2 on the remaining schedule to have a shot at the playoffs. We would have to do that against the likes of the Donkos, Seahawks, Steelers, Chargers.

Gaining experience for any of the players doesn't matter?


WoW! I'm such and idiot.

4-12

I love it. The coaches aren't worried about a thing. No reason to panic because we didn't score a TD with the starters in the preseason. I am telling you guys, they were practicing putting the starters in bad situations all preseason. This team is going to be off the chain week one.

Trade Chase to St Loui for a 2nd

They would cough up a 6th rounder for Chase.. not more though.

Why?

They can get Mallet for free.

Yeah, the coaches aren't.

I have never seen Alex as frustrated as he was in the Minny game.

Week one is going to be a struggle.

A real struggle.

Without Bowe, and facing a Ray Horton defense is going to be a true struggle.

Deal...

They already have Chase Daniel.

His clone Shaun Hill.

I applaud your optimism, but I am not so sure. I really HATE to make any judgments on preseason action... really do... but man, this could swing the other way and be a disastrous season. The receiving corps and OL really are that aids-ridden.

KC's hope should be that the defense will play more similarly to the 0-9 start of last season.. so that the KC offensive line can get their shit straight for a while.

There are lots of game-planning and plays that get put on the side in PS games... but when it comes to OL blocks... they can either block worth a shit or they can't. I don't know... the season could net them 9 or 10 wins... or 9 or 10 losses.

:clap:

Players win games.

What player, at any position, did we draft or sign that was better than the player we lost over the last two years?

What positions has this team gotten better at?

QB. That's it...

Yes. All the good coaches love seeing their starting QB get hit, sacked and scramble for his life in the preseason. All of those unblocked rushers were just to test Alex's surgically repaired shoulder from a few seasons back. Make sure the screws are still holding firm.

Corner?

Owens is an upgrade over Dunta Robinson.

I like Cooper better today, than I like Flowers.

And, Fs. abudullah WAYYYYYYYYYYY > Kendrick.

just my opinion. Flame away.

glad I sold my tickets.

I had tickets to this game tomorrow.

Even if I agreed with that it means we got better at no 2 CB, Nickelback, and FS while our whole offensive line went to $3it and the rest of our aging talent got a year older...

I admit that I'm not sure they were purposely putting them in rough situations on offense but I am positive they were doing it on defense. You can see it when you watch the games and Sutton specifically talked about it.

I am sure the o-line will play together as much as possible. They haven't had much practice together. People have come in and out of that line like crazy. However, it went like that last season too. Albert, Fisher, and Asamoah all missed time. We have a QB who can run and a RB who can catch. With the way our offense is designed, we don't need an A+ o-line. We will throw short passes and screens with the occasional play action down field pass.

I am optimistic. Our HC knows what he's doing.

I think our HC does.

I don't think our GM does...

Which is why the 49ers will be the worst team in the league.
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Agree with this... plus, adding in some expectation that many of the 2013 players will benefit from experience in the same scheme.

I'm not even too worried about the WRs, if they can stay out of the top 5 in drops. Not too worried about the TEs, if they can remotely stay healthy.

Biggest issue... as it was a month ago, and is today (if not more a concern) is the OL.

The biggest issue about this team is that every player Dorsey added comes with an "if."

To some level, yeah. I mean, if KC went out and traded for Boone or Mankins, there would still be an IF factor on how well they transitioned to new surroundings. We would just have a bit more faith in them versus some unknown and current scrub.

A group of us went to the Vikings Chiefs PS game last weekend and went to KCLIVE afterwards and were in the VIP section for about 20 minutes with Charles before security realized we weren't with him. He was chatting with us and everything. He told us that he wasn't gonna play in the last PS game but that he wants to break the rushing record this year for yards in a season.

Everything went south when my girlfriends brother asked Charles to sign his jersey...which is obviously frowned upon...especially when the jersey is a Vikings jersey.

It was pretty cool. We were in the back corner when he came in and came straight back to our corner and security proceeded to block it off with us still back there.

If Ty didn't do that dumb shit, Id probably have some epic tales...

Wut? Why did he think that would be okay?
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Yes but the quick pressure right up the gut is disturbing not to mention blitz pickups. Jamal should help that though. Smiths mobility does negate the A+ O-line some unless that pressure is between the Center and Guard.
I trust Tim Grunhard's opinion and when he says there is nothing magical in preseason that changes in the regular. He say you just block and if you cant then there is reason for concern. Getting beaten right at the punch just does not happen this consistently.

If wonder if the Dorseid anticipated what a shitbag this season will be?

I wonder if you anticipated how big Dorsey's cock was going to be before he stuck it up your asshole? I think you knew it was big but probably not that big.

LMAO

He better re-up on the viagra for that lame dick of his before trying.

:eek::LOL:

Apparently, forget the viagra and go with some echanacia; he might remember not to suck at team-building.

It's physically impossible for Dorsey's member to be in 2 places at once and we know from the pubes on your chin where it has really been...

:LOL:

I about took a swing at him for it.

Until that point, Jamaal was totally cool with us being back there with them.

It pissed me off because I swear we were on our way for a TRULY epic night.

They've looked horrendous.

I know the guys on this board only watch the Chiefs, but no TDs scored by their first team either. And that's pretty bad considering their QB just signed a huge extension, they've added what some would consider three #1 receivers over the past few years, and obviously already have Frank Gore and Vernon Davis plus one of the best offensive lines..

I'm not going to worry until the Titans game. If we lose that one, I'll probably lower my expectations to a 5-11 type season. Until then, I'm still hoping for 9-7, 10-6.

Historically, teams that start out 0-1 have a far better chance at missing the playoffs than teams that start out 1-0.

Since 1990, teams that start 2-0 make the playoffs 63% of the time,

Teams that start 1-1 make the playoffs 41% of the time.

Teams that start 0-2 make the playoffs just 12% of the time. Only three teams since 1990 have made it to the playoffs after starting 0-3.

Me too. I'm still thinking 9-7 or 10-6. And until week 3, not only had their first team not scored TDs, but their 2nd and 3rd team hadn't scored either.

I just don't take a whole lot from preseason. It's more about getting players feet wet and getting them conditioned than anything for me. Would I like to see them play great? Of course. But them playing great doesn't mean much once the regular season starts. Neither does them playing bad.

I'm stymied.

Charles should be treated just like Adrian Peterson. Never play in a preseason game. He simply doesn't need to.

Understood. My argument is that a bad start doesn't mean gloom and doom like so many fans think it does.

A bad start can be overcome.

CAN be.

But most likely WON'T be.

Possible, not probable.

So what happened? He asks Jamal for the autograph, and then Jamal sez "Get the **** out my face with that" or what?

He basically smiled it off and was like nah. Then he put his hand up and Ty got kicked out of the club and the rest of us had to leave the VIP. I keep trying to upload some pics from my iPhone, but they are too big.