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Stewie 08-02-2014 03:27 PM

What's your favorite John Wayne movie?
 
No poll, just need an answer.

Coogs 08-02-2014 03:30 PM

The Cowboys or Big Jake.

jjchieffan 08-02-2014 03:32 PM

Hmm. Tough choice to make but I would have to go with El Dorado

Pitt Gorilla 08-02-2014 03:33 PM

Sons of Katie Elder.

jjchieffan 08-02-2014 03:34 PM

Sons of Katie Elder and True Grit were a very close second

BigRedChief 08-02-2014 03:34 PM

Just FYI

The real Wyatt Earp was friends with John Wayne. They met on a movie set and became close friends. He gave him advise on how to be a cowboy, hold a gun etc. John Wayne gave him advise on how to get Wyatt Earps screenplays and books into the right hands of Hollywood.

stonedstooge 08-02-2014 03:36 PM

His last one was a dandy:

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Pitt Gorilla 08-02-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10790512)
Just FYI

The real Wyatt Earp was friends with John Wayne. They met on a movie set and became close friends. He gave him advise on how to be a cowboy, hold a gun etc. John Wayne gave him advise on how to get Wyatt Earps screenplays and books into the right hands of Hollywood.

Are you sure? Earp died before Wayne became a true star. It's not impossible, but it would have had to be REALLY early on and close to Earp's death, no?

Stewie 08-02-2014 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10790512)
Just FYI

The real Wyatt Earp was friends with John Wayne. They met on a movie set and became close friends. He gave him advise on how to be a cowboy, hold a gun etc. John Wayne gave him advise on how to get Wyatt Earps screenplays and books into the right hands of Hollywood.

Probably an urban legend.

alanm 08-02-2014 03:38 PM

Strangely not a western. The Quiet Man.

BigRedChief 08-02-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 10790539)
Probably an urban legend.

Fact according to the Duke. In multiple interviews over the years, he credited his believability as a cowboy to what Wyatt Earp taught him.

Stewie 08-02-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10790569)
Fact according to the Duke. In multiple interviews over the years, he credited his believability as a cowboy to what Wyatt Earp taught him.

Their ages don't add up. Earp died in 1929. Wayne was still a sophomore football player at USC and hadn't thought of acting.

mnchiefsguy 08-02-2014 03:52 PM

Rio Bravo.

BlackHelicopters 08-02-2014 03:52 PM

Rio Grande

mlyonsd 08-02-2014 03:56 PM

The Searchers

stumppy 08-02-2014 03:57 PM

I really couldn't pick a favorite. I've never seen one I wouldn't watch again
So many come to mind. They, or rather he was a big part of my childhood.

TrebMaxx 08-02-2014 04:01 PM

McClintock then The Green Berets.

Third Eye 08-02-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10790569)
Fact according to the Duke. In multiple interviews over the years, he credited his believability as a cowboy to what Wyatt Earp taught him.

"Tefertiller claims that while Earp was hanging around Hollywood backlots at the end of his life, he ran into the young Marion Morrison, a.k.a. John Wayne, who later "modeled his persona" on those encounters. Tefertiller's source? A single remark by TV's Wyatt Earp, Hugh O'Brian, claiming that the Duke once, 30 years ago or so, told him that he was doing a helluva job, and he, the Duke, should know because he knew Wyatt Earp. That's it. No other reference, no other source, no mention of this rather earth-shaking news by anybody who ever knew John Wayne, including John Ford, who did know Earp and who undoubtedly would've told everyone if Earp had met Wayne."

http://weeklywire.com/ww/08-31-98/tw_feat.html

Coochie liquor 08-02-2014 04:05 PM

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I've never seen a John Wayne movie. But I LOVE his music!!

Just Passin' By 08-02-2014 04:07 PM

There are too many great ones to pick just one. Hell, I'm not sure I could narrow it down to a dozen.

KChiefs1 08-02-2014 04:16 PM

Wow! It's hard for me to pick just one too. I like several...

Deberg_1990 08-02-2014 04:17 PM

He was brilliant as Genghis Khan.

AustinChief 08-02-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10790541)
Strangely not a western. The Quiet Man.

And we have a winner.

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mikey23545 08-02-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 10790593)
Their ages don't add up. Earp died in 1929. Wayne was still a sophomore football player at USC and hadn't thought of acting.


Wayne was not yet acting, but was a stagehand. Earp was hanging around the studio, and that's where they supposedly had a lot of conversations.

FD 08-02-2014 05:15 PM

Red River

Saccopoo 08-02-2014 05:16 PM

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Dave Lane 08-02-2014 05:16 PM

They are all the same.

Rasputin 08-02-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 10790492)
The Cowboys or Big Jake.

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listopencil 08-02-2014 05:22 PM

The one where he plays an Army guy and the one where he's a cowboy.

listopencil 08-02-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10790639)
He was brilliant as Genghis Khan.

Shit. I forgot that one. So bad ass. OK...also the one where he was Genghis Khan.

listopencil 08-02-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10790541)
Strangely not a western. The Quiet Man.


Yeah. And the one where he was a boxer.

DJJasonp 08-02-2014 05:27 PM

I think we need an 8 week poll/tournament, with 20 rounds, to really determine which is the best!

:evil:

BigMeatballDave 08-02-2014 05:35 PM

North to Alaska

alpha_omega 08-02-2014 05:40 PM

Sands of Iwo Jima

listopencil 08-02-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 10790710)
I think we need an 8 week poll/tournament, with 20 rounds, to really determine which is the best!

:evil:

I'd prefer John Wayne vs. Elvis Presley. Which Presley movie could take out Genghis Khan? The one where he's a race car driver moonlighting as a singer, or the one where he's a singer moonlighting as a race car driver? Or the one where he's a bartender moonlighting as a singing race car driver?

Mr. Laz 08-02-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 10790597)
Rio Bravo.

this


sons of katie elder is good too


lots of good ones

Kaepernick 08-02-2014 05:55 PM

Lets call it a tie for first between Stagecoach and Rio Bravo.

Kaepernick 08-02-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10790639)
He was brilliant as Genghis Khan.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Uxf7XqMKpU...Conqueror4.jpg

dmahurin 08-02-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 10790727)
Sands of Iwo Jima

This, my uncle played himself in the movie.

Chiefshrink 08-02-2014 07:53 PM

Rooster Cogburn

srvy 08-02-2014 08:25 PM

It would be easier to tell ones I didn't like. I wasn't fond of Cahill US Marshall and The Shepard of the Hills. I didn't hate it but Hatari wasn't a favorite.

I guess favorites would be Big Jake, The Cowboys, Searchers and Comancheros.

Pitt Gorilla 08-02-2014 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10790837)
It would be easier to tell ones I didn't like. I wasn't fond of Cahill US Marshall and The Shepard of the Hills. I didn't hate it but Hatari wasn't a favorite.

I guess favorites would be Big Jake, The Cowboys, Searchers and Comancheros.

Shepherd of the Hills was garbage.

crazycoffey 08-02-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 10790593)
Their ages don't add up. Earp died in 1929. Wayne was still a sophomore football player at USC and hadn't thought of acting.


or so you've been told, by our government

Just Passin' By 08-02-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 10790593)
Their ages don't add up. Earp died in 1929. Wayne was still a sophomore football player at USC and hadn't thought of acting.

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Winning a football scholarship to University of Southern California (USC), Wayne started college in the fall of 1925. He joined the Sigma Chi fraternity and continued to be a strong student. Unfortunately, after two years, an injury took him off the football field and ended his scholarship. While in college, Wayne had done some work as a film extra, appearing as a football player in Brown of Harvard (1926) and Drop Kick (1927).

Out of school, Wayne worked as an extra and a prop man in the film industry. He first met director John Ford while working as an extra on Mother Machree (1928)

http://www.biography.com/people/john...664#early-life

Ghost of Maslowski 08-02-2014 11:47 PM

War: They Were Expendable
Western: Rio Bravo
Other: The Quiet Man

dilligaf 08-03-2014 12:11 AM

McClintock or True Grit. I've always liked McQ also because I saw it with my dad and I loved the Trans Am in that movie.

Nzoner 08-03-2014 12:14 AM

WTF how about this classic

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Nzoner 08-03-2014 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf (Post 10790969)
McClintock or True Grit. I've always liked McQ also because I saw it with my dad and I loved the Trans Am in that movie.

:thumb:

EPodolak 08-03-2014 01:26 AM

Not a Wayne fan but men like Ford and Hawks made good use of him. Stagecoach, The Searchers, Red River, and The Long Voyage home are the favorites.

Saccopoo 08-03-2014 01:49 AM

"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance."

John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Lee Marvin and directed by John Ford. (Most critics consider this Ford's greatest work.)

Also, as a bit of trivia, the title song sung by Gene Pitney and written by Burt Bacharach was recorded for the movie, but rumor has it that Ford didn't like it and left it out. However, it was released independently and reached #4 on Billboard the same year that the movie was released (1962).

***** - rogerebert.com
93% - Rotten Tomatoes

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cwhocares 08-03-2014 05:45 AM

Too many to choose from. I've been a BIG fan ever since I can remember. He was my hero growing up. He was my favorite actor of all time. Wayne took care of his acting friends also. You repeatedly see them in his movies; Ben Johnson, Victor McGlauflin, Ward Bond, Maureen O'hare ect. I have a picture of him, that my wife allows me to hang in the bedroom. Not many women would allow that kind of decor.

milkman 08-03-2014 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cwhocares (Post 10791066)
Too many to choose from. I've been a BIG fan ever since I can remember. He was my hero growing up. He was my favorite actor of all time. Wayne took care of his acting friends also. You repeatedly see them in his movies; Ben Johnson, Victor McGlauflin, Ward Bond, Maureen O'hare ect. I have a picture of him, that my wife allows me to hang in the bedroom. Not many women would allow that kind of decor.

She probably uses it for masturbation.

Coyote 08-03-2014 06:52 AM

Combat: Sands of Iwo Jima
Western: True Grit
Drama: The Quiet Man
Obscure: Jet Pilot

BigRedChief 08-03-2014 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10791076)
She probably uses it for masturbation.

well played sir, well played!

Zebedee DuBois 08-03-2014 07:07 AM

This movie does not have John Wayne, but it is one of my favorite westerns.
The Big Country starred Gregory Peck, Charlton Heston, Burl Ives, Chuck Conner, and Charles Bickford. It was 'epic'.

As for Wayne, I'll cast a vote for Liberty Valance.

Dunerdr 08-03-2014 07:14 AM

I liked his appearance in family guy. "Happy Thanksgiving pilgrims"

Mennonite 08-03-2014 08:55 AM

I'll probably go with The Shootist (1976). I've been meaning to check out the book for years, but I've never gotten around to it.


I'm a big fan of westerns, but oddly enough, I never liked John Wayne. He always seemed to sleepwalk through his movies. I hated the way he delivered dialog too; almost as if he were just reading the script aloud in a bemused sort of way. He never acted like his characters were concerned about their predicaments so I never felt much concern as a viewer.

p.s. If anyone is a fan of his movie "The Searchers" do yourself a favor and check out the book it was based on. It's fantastic.

Deberg_1990 08-03-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 10790970)
WTF how about this classic

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Heh, didn't he make two of those?


That must have been his answer to the Dirty Harry series and westerns were starting to die out in the early 70s.

GloucesterChief 08-03-2014 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10791233)
Heh, didn't he make two of those?


That must have been his answer to the Dirty Harry series and westerns were starting to die out in the early 70s.

Blazing Saddles killed the Western for quite a while.

Mennonite 08-03-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 10791267)
Blazing Saddles killed the Western for quite a while.


I think extreme overexposure killed westerns. Theater's and tv were flooded with them throughout the 50's and 60's. Strict new anti violence rules for tv in 68 finished off the tv western. The rise of urban crime thrillers combined with Hollywood's more "enlightened" revisionist westerns killed the big screen westerns.

Deberg_1990 08-03-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mennonite (Post 10791284)
I think extreme overexposure killed westerns. Theater's and tv were flooded with them throughout the 50's and 60's. Strict new anti violence rules for tv in 68 finished off the tv western. The rise of urban crime thrillers combined with Hollywood's more "enlightened" revisionist westerns killed the big screen westerns.

Pretty much what I think.

Gritty, urban 70s cinema tastes killed the westerns.

Although, A lot of westerns made after it's heyday I liked.

Outlaw Josey Wales, Silverado, Pale Rider, Lonesome Dove, dances with wolves , Unforgiven. We're all strong in their own ways.

srvy 08-03-2014 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 10791119)
This movie does not have John Wayne, but it is one of my favorite westerns.
The Big Country starred Gregory Peck, Charlton Heston, Burl Ives, Chuck Conner, and Charles Bickford. It was 'epic'.

As for Wayne, I'll cast a vote for Liberty Valance.

I could never stand the Pecker head rest of that cast is golden!

srvy 08-03-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10791295)
Pretty much what I think.

Gritty, urban 70s cinema tastes killed the westerns.

Although, A lot of westerns made after it's heyday I liked.

Outlaw Josey Wales, Silverado, Pale Rider, Lonesome Dove, dances with wolves , Unforgiven. We're all strong in their own ways.

Dont forget Open Range, Tombstone and Wyatt Earp.

Mennonite 08-03-2014 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10791295)

Although, A lot of westerns made after it's heyday I liked.

Outlaw Josey Wales, Silverado, Pale Rider, Lonesome Dove, dances with wolves , Unforgiven. We're all strong in their own ways.


Have you ever noticed that Pale Rider is pretty much a remake of Shane combined with a bit of High Plains Drifter?

Post 1960's westerns that i like:

Barquero (1970)
Chato's Land (1972)
Hardcase (1972)
High Plains Drifter (1973)
Billy Two Hats (1974)
Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
Barbarosa (1982)
Lonesome Dove (1989)
Unforgiven (1992)

Mennonite 08-03-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10791307)
I could never stand the Pecker head rest of that cast is golden!

I like Gregory Peck. Pork Chop Hill, Guns of Navarone, Cape Fear (1962), The Omen - the dude was in a lot of great movies.




Outlaw Josey Wales


Anybody else think the movie bogged down a bit after Josey gets his new "family"? I was really hoping Eastwood would have gunned down the old woman and the carpetbagger. Still a great movie. Little trivia: The author of the book was a white supremacist.

Idahojim 08-03-2014 10:54 AM

Can't choose between them: The Searchers and The Quiet Man.

srvy 08-03-2014 11:01 AM

Shane was a POS the kids whine made me want him gunned down.



That was a movie Hollywood thought a western should be. Not at all what a fan wants.

Mennonite 08-03-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10791395)
Shane was a POS the kids whine made me want him gunned down.



That was a movie Hollywood thought a western should be. Not at all what a fan wants.


I completely agree. That potato headed tard annoyed the hell out of me. Alan Ladd was completely wrong for the part of Shane too. The man was 3 feet tall. Jack Palance was good though.

Deberg_1990 08-03-2014 11:10 AM

Shane is a classic!


And yes, Pale Rider was basically a knockoff of Shane.

Mennonite 08-03-2014 11:18 AM

The plot is solid, but the casting ruined it for me.

Just Passin' By 08-03-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10791233)
Heh, didn't he make two of those?


That must have been his answer to the Dirty Harry series and westerns were starting to die out in the early 70s.

Trivia note:

John Wayne (and Frank Sinatra) turned down the role of Dirty Harry.

Oxford 08-03-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10791484)
Trivia note:

John Wayne (and Frank Sinatra) turned down the role of Dirty Harry.

John Wayne did his own version ---- McQ

Favorite Wayner..... In Harms Way, McClintock

Pepe Silvia 08-03-2014 11:57 AM

The Quiet Man

srvy 08-03-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10791484)
Trivia note:

John Wayne (and Frank Sinatra) turned down the role of Dirty Harry.

Hard to picture either of them in DH. They made the right choice.

Chaunceythe3rd 08-03-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10790541)
Strangely not a western. The Quiet Man.

:thumb: Absolutely.

Deberg_1990 08-03-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10791484)
Trivia note:

John Wayne (and Frank Sinatra) turned down the role of Dirty Harry.

Good. Neither one would have been right for that.

Fire Me Boy! 08-03-2014 04:09 PM

Gotta be The Quiet Man.

Mennonite 08-03-2014 04:11 PM

I think Sinatra could have pulled it off. He was pretty good playing that vengeful cop in that episode of Magnum.

KChiefs1 08-03-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10790837)
It would be easier to tell ones I didn't like. I wasn't fond of Cahill US Marshall and The Shepard of the Hills. I didn't hate it but Hatari wasn't a favorite.

I guess favorites would be Big Jake, The Cowboys, Searchers and Comancheros.


I really like Hatari!

Kaepernick 08-03-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10792199)
Good. Neither one would have been right for that.

Either would have been fine as Dirty Harry. It would just be a very different version, but still just fine.

Lee Marvin would have made a great Harry Callahan. I think James Coburn would have been great too. Steve McQueen of course, if he didn't get cancer.

Thing is, each of these Hollywood tough guys would have played it differently from what they bring to the silver screen, but every one would make it work.

John Wayne is the one I have a hard time really seeing as Harry Callahan, but he was a very good actor in his own right and played his owl style of the strong/silent type. You watch him in "The Searchers" and what is he in that but Harry Callahan. The Vengeance of Hell on wheels with steely eyes and single minded focus. He would need a director to keep him in that dead serious mode from The Searchers, and not take it ironic or comedic at all, but yes... the Duke could have pulled it off. No problemo.

You just wouldn't have lines like "Make my day" or "Do I feel lucky? Well, do you...Punk!"

But the Duke would have had his own memorable lines. Bank on it.


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