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The Franchise 04-16-2014 03:36 PM

Bowe: Marijuana charge dropped
 
Terez A. Paylor ‏@TerezPaylor 10m

Press conference regarding Dwayne Bowe's Nov. arrest is scheduled to begin in five minutes. Official outcome should be announced then.

Bowe pleaded guilty to amended charges of defective equipment and littering.

Prosecutor says it was an outcome consistent with what they normally give first-time defenders.

So the marijuana charge is thrown out. No probation, nothing. Only fines totaling $550.

Hammock Parties 04-16-2014 03:37 PM

suck it haters

the chocolatiest penis in the afc west will smoke weed and DBs in 2014

ZootedGranny 04-16-2014 03:40 PM

Time to celebrate with some "Apalo 11."

htismaqe 04-16-2014 03:41 PM

Paylor posted that at 4:20...

CaliforniaChief 04-16-2014 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10566986)
Paylor posted that at 4:20...

LMAO

The Franchise 04-16-2014 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10566986)
Paylor posted that at 4:20...

:hmmm:

Just Passin' By 04-16-2014 03:43 PM

So now Goodell will get in on the act.

CaliforniaChief 04-16-2014 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10566991)
So now Goodell will get in on the act.

For what? There's no marijuana conviction...

BlackHelicopters 04-16-2014 03:44 PM

Purple Kush all around to celebrate

Red Dawg 04-16-2014 03:51 PM

The weed is not mine. Randy Moss style. Good for Bowe.

Just Passin' By 04-16-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10566992)
For what? There's no marijuana conviction...

Goodell will "look into it", I'm sure. Then, knowing Goodell, he'll hand down a lifetime ban for the littering charge.

htismaqe 04-16-2014 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10566992)
For what? There's no marijuana conviction...

Violation of the NFL's Code of Conduct policy.

Marijuana or not, he pleaded guilty to a crime.

notorious 04-16-2014 03:58 PM

"Dropped"



LMAO

cdcox 04-16-2014 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10567021)
"Dropped"



LMAO

Dang, beat me to it.

Johnny Vegas 04-16-2014 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10567016)
Violation of the NFL's Code of Conduct policy.

Marijuana or not, he pleaded guilty to a crime.

littering fine is no worse than a speeding fine. was Suh suspended for speeding? nope

ToxSocks 04-16-2014 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10567021)
"Dropped"



LMAO

I just got it too, haha.

htismaqe 04-16-2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas (Post 10567026)
littering fine is no worse than a speeding fine. was Suh suspended for speeding? nope

It will still be reviewed by the league office.

CaliforniaChief 04-16-2014 04:09 PM

Here's the conduct policy.

-Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving: the use or threat of violence; domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft and other property crimes; sex offenses; obstruction or resisting arrest; disorderly conduct; fraud; racketeering; and money laundering; Nope.

-Criminal offenses relating to steroids and prohibited substances, or substances of abuse;
Violent or threatening behavior among employees, whether in or outside the workplace; Nope

-Possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting, including but not limited to stadiums, team facilities, training camp, locker rooms, team planes, buses, parking lots, etc., or unlawful possession of a weapon outside of the workplace; Nope

-Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person; Nope and

-Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL players. Good luck with this one too.

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 04:13 PM

Bowe haters weep...

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 04:14 PM

What is the NFLs 1st offense for conduct?

keg in kc 04-16-2014 04:15 PM

I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.

htismaqe 04-16-2014 04:17 PM

The league office will review it.

Guaranteed.

planetdoc 04-16-2014 04:20 PM

awesome good for him.

Rain Man 04-16-2014 04:24 PM

I guess I can overlook the marijuana stuff, but I can't stand people who litter. Release this guy now.

BullJunkandIron 04-16-2014 04:26 PM

Gotta luv dope head DaBowe.

TribalElder 04-16-2014 04:39 PM

Never a doubt

Simplicity 04-16-2014 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10567047)
The league office will review it.

Guaranteed.

Even if they do... No fine or suspension.

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 04:42 PM

title is misleading


plea bargained and reduced would be much more accurate than dropped


like paying extra to get a speeding ticket reduced to a non-moving violation

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10567086)
Even if they do... No fine or suspension.

link?

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567090)
title is misleading


plea bargained and reduced would be much more accurate than dropped


like paying extra to get a speeding ticket reduced to a non-moving violation

Yeah, 'Reduced to a lesser charge'.

A large amount of cash changed hands.

-King- 04-16-2014 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567092)
link?

He can't get punished by the NFL for this. What can they punish him for?
Posted via Mobile Device

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10567086)
Even if they do... No fine or suspension.

This is his 1st conduct issue. We'll see...

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 04:50 PM

Laz was hoping Bowe was getting the death penalty.

Rain Man 04-16-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10567102)
He can't get punished by the NFL for this. What can they punish him for?
Posted via Mobile Device


Littering. Scott Pioli worked very hard to bring this issue to the forefront of the league.

htismaqe 04-16-2014 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10567102)
He can't get punished by the NFL for this. What can they punish him for?
Posted via Mobile Device

Whatever they want.

Just Passin' By 04-16-2014 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10567102)
He can't get punished by the NFL for this. What can they punish him for?
Posted via Mobile Device

Goodell doesn't have to accept the plea bargain as some sort of overriding final outcome. That'd be like saying Goodell would have to allow Hernandez back with open arms because the jury hung at 11-1 to convict.*




*Note that I'm not equating the issues, just noting the uselessness of pointing to the final criminal outcome as if it's dispositive.

Just Passin' By 04-16-2014 05:13 PM

PFT weighs in:

Quote:

Now the question is how the league office will treat Bowe. A marijuana offense typically results in a one-game suspension, although littering and “defective equipment” may not be enough to get Bowe in any type of trouble. Still, the fact that this case started with a marijuana arrest could result in Bowe being placed in the league’s substance-abuse program.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...om-pot-arrest/

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 10567134)
Goodell doesn't have to accept the plea bargain as some sort of overriding final outcome. That'd be like saying Goodell would have to allow Hernandez back with open arms because the jury hung at 11-1 to convict.*

Not the same thing. Not even close. Hernandez has a formal murder charge against him.

They is no drug charge against Bowe.

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 05:15 PM

How can that be if he hasn't failed a drug test?

htismaqe 04-16-2014 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567157)
How can that be if he hasn't failed a drug test?

Because it doesn't fall under substance abuse. It falls under code of conduct.

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10567161)
Because it doesn't fall under substance abuse. It falls under code of conduct.

That's fine, but did you read the PFT thing?

htismaqe 04-16-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567173)
That's fine, but did you read the PFT thing?

That kind of falls under the "Goodell can do whatever he wants" category.

Just Passin' By 04-16-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567155)
Not the same thing. Not even close. Hernandez has a formal murder charge against him.

They is no drug charge against Bowe.

You're confusing final disposition with initial charge. Bowe was initially charged with possession. Getting a standard first timer's break with the court doesn't change that, just like going to PTD doesn't mean you weren't initially charged with a crime.

Coach 04-16-2014 05:34 PM

I suspect the NFL will not suspend him, but will put him under more increased random drug testing and a fine.

htismaqe 04-16-2014 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10567186)
I suspect the NFL will not suspend him, but will put him under more increased random drug testing and a fine.

Yep.

I don't see him getting suspended either. But they're going to grill him about it no matter what.

Just Passin' By 04-16-2014 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10567186)
I suspect the NFL will not suspend him, but will put him under more increased random drug testing and a fine.

I hope that Goodell takes a measured approach. He's been smacked down enough recently that I'm hoping it's gotten through to him. His usual heavy-handedness is a bad thing for the game, IMO.

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10567179)
That kind of falls under the "Goodell can do whatever he wants" category.

I don't care if he's suspended 1 game for conduct.

But that article says he could be placed in the substance abuse program. Doesn't this require a positive test?

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10567102)
He can't get punished by the NFL for this. What can they punish him for?
Posted via Mobile Device

The NFL has stated in the past that plea bargaining doesn't effect their actions.

A guilty verdict still applies and if the NFL decides that a weed was really involved then it fall under their control substance program.

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567107)
Laz was hoping Bowe was getting the death penalty.

eat shit and die

I just compared Bowe's marijuana charge reduction to a speeding ticket reduction. More than fair imo

I swear you whiny little Bowe bitches just cannot handle reality.

Coach 04-16-2014 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567194)
The NFL has stated in the past that plea bargaining doesn't effect their actions.

A guilty verdict still applies and if the NFL decides that a weed was really involved then it fall under their control substance program.

A guilty verdict is applied to the littering charge. It didn't apply to the marijuana issue. The marijuana issue was thrown out, meaning, he isn't being charged for it.

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567195)
eat shit and die

I just compared Bowe's marijuana charge reduction to a speeding ticket reduction. More than fair imo

I swear you whiny little Bowe bitches just cannot handle reality.

LMAO You're incapable of taking a joke.

Anyong Bluth 04-16-2014 05:47 PM

Who even cares. 5 years from now it'll be equal to a parking ticket almost everywhere.

You, as a fan, should be more worried about the guys that have substance dependency and more concerned with the club and all that to the point where it's affected their duty as a professional- which Bowe was headed down that road prior to a few seasons ago with his whole Bowe Show crap.

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10567204)
which Bowe was headed down that road prior to a few seasons ago with his whole Bowe Show crap.

LMAO True fan alert!

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10567201)
A guilty verdict is applied to the littering charge. It didn't apply to the marijuana issue. The marijuana issue was thrown out, meaning, he isn't being charged for it.

nope

The NFL doesn't except legal maneuvers as a way around their rules. They have said in the past that charge reductions does not influence any original offense.

I'm trying to remember the specific case a few years back. They were very specific in stating that breaking league rules is not effected by the courts unless the players is found innocent of the charge(s).

The NFL doesn't care about plea bargains.

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567202)
LMAO You're incapable of taking a joke.

fair enough :thumb:


btw i can take a joke, i just have a difficult time knowing when a joke is occurring through a keyboard.

Katipan 04-16-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567221)
fair enough :thumb:


btw i can take a joke, i just have a difficult time knowing when a joke is occurring through a keyboard.

Weed is definitely a cure-all for that.

htismaqe 04-16-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 10567230)
Weed is definitely a cure-all for that.

Not really.

He'd start laughing at everything, even when people are being serious...

Coach 04-16-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567215)
nope

The NFL doesn't except legal maneuvers as a way around their rules. They have said in the past that charge reductions does not influence any original offense.

I'm trying to remember the specific case a few years back. They were very specific in stating that breaking league rules is not effected by the courts unless the players is found innocent of the charge(s).

The NFL doesn't care about plea bargains.

Well, if the NFL decides to suspend him for one game, I imagine that Bowe and his agent will appeal it anyways.

As I mentioned on one of my earlier post, I imagine the NFL will not suspend him, but will put him on the 1st time offender on the substance abuse policy, which Bowe will get increased random drug testing, and a fine.

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10567236)
Well, if the NFL decides to suspend him for one game, I imagine that Bowe and his agent will appeal it anyways.

As I mentioned on one of my earlier post, I imagine the NFL will not suspend him, but will put him on the 1st time offender on the substance abuse policy, which Bowe will get increased random drug testing, and a fine.

appeal it to whom? If the police found marijuana then Bowe broke league rules.


Isn't Bowe already in the league substance abuse system?

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567242)


Isn't Bowe already in the league substance abuse system?

PEDs. Tested positive for a diuretic.

RealSNR 04-16-2014 06:19 PM

Von Miller was suspended last season for 6 weeks. Was it substance abuse? DUI?

It sure as **** wasn't because he "forgot" to pay all his traffic tickets

BigMeatballDave 04-16-2014 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10567272)
Von Miller was suspended last season for 6 weeks. Was it substance abuse? DUI?

It sure as **** wasn't because he "forgot" to pay all his traffic tickets

4 games for failing a drug test, and 2 games for trying to circumvent the test.

WhiteWhale 04-16-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567295)
4 games for failing a drug test, and 2 games for trying to circumvent the test.

Yeah... to my knowledge he attempted to bribe the guy giving the test.

Simply Red 04-16-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10567272)
Von Miller was suspended last season for 6 weeks. Was it substance abuse? DUI?

It sure as **** wasn't because he "forgot" to pay all his traffic tickets

si

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567250)
PEDs. Tested positive for a diuretic.

which is a separate program from substance abuse so he could be a 1st timer.


I thought Bowe had a pot incident before?

htismaqe 04-16-2014 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567520)
which is a separate program from substance abuse so he could be a 1st timer.


I thought Bowe had a pot incident before?

I don't think so.

ping2000 04-16-2014 07:44 PM

Heading to Denver to celebrate!

-King- 04-16-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10567520)
which is a separate program from substance abuse so he could be a 1st timer.


I thought Bowe had a pot incident before?

No.

Mr. Laz 04-16-2014 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10567525)
I don't think so.

we'll see

NFL'S SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND PERFORMANCE-ENHANCING DRUGS POLICIES

By Jeff Legwold
The Denver Post
POSTED: 07/23/2013 12:01:00 AM MDT
UPDATED: 07/23/2013 12:28:51 AM MDT

The NFL has separate policies covering substance abuse and performance-enhancing drugs. The two policies differ in enforcement. A look:

In the PED policy, players are tested at the scouting combine before their rookie seasons. Once they are in the league, players can be tested in the offseason, during the season and in the postseason.

A positive test results in an immediate four-game suspension.

Players can appeal the suspension within five business days of receiving "notice of discipline" from NFL.

The first positive test for a "substance of abuse" results in the player formally entering an enhanced testing/treatment program, where the player is tested more frequently.

A second positive test results in the player entering the "stages of intervention" outlined in the policy. "Stage 1" is the first stage in the policy and includes the player being referred to a "Regional Team" for his treatment. In Stage 1, the player can be tested as many times as the league's "Medical Director" desires to "adequately evaluate the player."

A positive test while in Stage 1 can result in a fine equal to three weeks of a player's pay and results in entrance to Stage 2.

A player remains under Stage 1 guidelines for 90 days, but the league's Medical Director can extend that time up to six months.

In Stage 2, players are subject to unannounced testing up to 10 times a month. A positive test while in Stage 2 or failure to comply with the treatment program results in a fine equal to four game checks and a four-game suspension.

Six-game suspensions are also possible in Stage 2.

Players can appeal the fine and suspension within five business days of receiving the "notice of discipline."

Players remain in Stage 2 for two full seasons or 24 consecutive months, whichever is shorter.

Players move to Stage 3 if they have two positive tests when in Stage 2 or one positive test to go with one instance when the player failed to comply with the program.

Players who are placed into Stage 3 remain in Stage 3 for the remainder of their careers.

The minimum suspension for a violation in Stage 3 is a calendar year.

htismaqe 04-16-2014 08:05 PM

I should have split your post.

I agree with you. The illegal drug policy/program and the PED policy/program are separate (as is the Code of Conduct policy).

My comment was about Bowe having any previous pot arrests. I don't believe he has. Just the PED thing.

Coochie liquor 04-16-2014 08:06 PM

Tonight I'll put some cherry kush in the air to celebrate!! Rasta stylee!!

Bwana 04-16-2014 08:11 PM

Dewey Bowe needs to wise the **** up and not put himself into this position again, oh yeah and catch a few more balls.

Reerun_KC 04-16-2014 08:14 PM

Bowe and dropped are like chocolate and peanut butter. They just go together nicely.

Sandy Vagina 04-16-2014 08:41 PM

Quote:

Dwayne Bowe pleaded guilty to defective equipment and littering charges and paid a $610 fine to resolve the marijuana possession matter against him.

Bowe was popped for marijuana possession back in November. Since it was his first arrest for possession, he was allowed to pay a fine. Bowe should avoid a suspension but could wind up being placed in the substance-abuse program.
Source: Kansas City Star
for what that's worth...

Anyong Bluth 04-16-2014 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10567207)
LMAO True fan alert!

Thanks. Your support and wisdom is nourishment for my soul and psyche.

Iconic 04-16-2014 08:54 PM

So ****ing stupid that people are still getting busted for a drug that'll inevitability be legal soon.

JoeyChuckles 04-17-2014 06:14 AM

Littering and..... littering and....

stonedstooge 04-17-2014 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 10568374)
Littering and..... littering and....

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TEX 04-17-2014 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 10567810)
So ****ing stupid that people are still getting busted for a drug that'll inevitability be legal soon.

No its not. Its so ****ing stupid that people think as you do about an offense that occurred in a location where its clearly against the law. Get caught with alcohol in a dry county and tell them that...

SeeingRed 04-17-2014 08:47 AM

Great news! now we need a quality WR on other side


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