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Skyy God 04-16-2014 12:39 PM

Marionville mayor: "I don't think Miller should have killed Jews, but I understand"
 
Missourah!!

http://m.kspr.com/marionville-mayor-...53016_25503568

Quote:

Kansas prosecutors filed state murder charges against the white supremacist accused in a shooting spree that left three people dead at two Jewish community sites over the weekend.

Johnson County District Attorney announced Tuesday the charges against Frazier Glenn Cross, also known as Frazier Glenn Miller.

He's charged for the deaths of a 14-year-old boy, his grandfather, and another woman. The capital murder count is connected to the deaths of William Lewis Corporon and Reat Griffin Underwood, said Steve Howe, district attorney for Johnson County. The premeditated murder count is linked to the death of Terri LaManno.

73-year-old Cross is from the Aurora- area and his racist activities have long drawn the attention of hate-group monitors.

"He was always a little bit different," said Brent Kasinger, who knew Frazier Cross as Frazier Miller. "He was always real nice and polite. He was not shy, that's one thing. He was not a shy person at all. He spoke his opinion, which you know, you could respect that at least. You may not like his opinion, but at least you knew it. You knew exactly where he stood with him."

Marionville's new mayor, elected Tuesday, called Miller a friend.

"He was always nice and friendly and respectful of elder people, you know, he respected his elders greatly. As long as they were the same color as him," laughed Clevenger. "Very fair and honest and never had a bit of problems out of him."

In addition to being mayor, Clevenger, also owns a repair shop. He knew Miller by many names.

"When I first met him, he called himself Frazier Mais. I think that was spelled Mais," recalled Clevenger. "If I remember right. Then all of a sudden he started calling himself Frazier Miller."

Despite the name change, Clevenger said Miller's biased beliefs stayed strong.

"Kind of agreed with him on some things but, I don't like to express that too much," said Clevenger.

That hasn't always been the case. Nearly a decade ago, Clevenger wrote a letter to the editor of the Aurora Advertiser.

"I am a friend of Frazier Miller helping to spread his warnings," wrote Clevenger. "The Jew-run medical industry has succeeded in destroying the United State's workforce."

The letter continued.

"Made a few Jews rich by killin' us off."

He also spoke of the "Jew-run government backed banking industry turned the U.S into the world's largest debtor nation."

Years later, Clevenger's views haven't seemed to change.

"There some things that are going on in this country that are destroying us. We've got a false economy and it's, some of those corporations are run by Jews because the names are there," he said. "The fact that the Federal Reserve prints up phony money and freely hands it out, I think that's completely wrong. The people that run the Federal Reserve, they're Jewish."

After prosecutors charged Miller, known as Cross, with murder, Clevenger said his opinion of his friend has changed.

"It was shocking that he would do something like that, but knowing him and how much was built up inside of him, I can understand why he would be the one to do that," said Clevenger. "He didn't expect to live very long. So after he done this, I kind of speculated that he might be wanting to go out proving his point big time on that. I imagine when he goes to trial, he will be able to really state his views on things, and I think he's just wanting to go out with a bang."

Although Clevenger puts blame on some minorities, he said he stands firmly against violence. He also said he doesn't hate anyone.

"I think it's terrible what Frazier did," said Clevenger. "He didn't have any right to do that and I think he should pay with his life."

BlackHelicopters 04-16-2014 12:43 PM

What is wrong with SWMO.

Bowser 04-16-2014 12:45 PM

:facepalm:

It's the 21st Century, you ****ing Neanderthals.

ping2000 04-16-2014 12:45 PM

Sad.

Dante84 04-16-2014 12:45 PM

get him out

FlaChief58 04-16-2014 12:46 PM

Kinda weird that George didn't break this news

Pablo 04-16-2014 12:46 PM

*Cue banjo music*

Dante84 04-16-2014 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 10566498)
Kinda weird that George didn't break this news

It wasn't on Yahoo's front page

ToxSocks 04-16-2014 12:49 PM

Marionville has a population of 2200-ish according to 2010 Census.

My block probably has a higher population than that. In a town that small in Sw Mo, im not surprised an idiot like that can be elected Mayor.

FlaChief58 04-16-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10566502)
It wasn't on Yahoo's front page

That and it didn't happen in Florida

saphojunkie 04-16-2014 12:51 PM

Real America.

ToxSocks 04-16-2014 12:52 PM

Im looking at Marionville right now....why does it even need a Mayor? It looks like it's the size of a small community that should be governed by something bigger. Seriously, my neighborhood is bigger than that.
1.76 Sq Miles. Yeah.......that place doesn't need its own Mayor. Cut that guy off the teet asap.

greatgooglymoogly 04-16-2014 01:04 PM

Yeah...I got nothing. Anti-black and anti-Hispanic sentiments were stronger than anti-Semitism where I grew up, though.

seaofred 04-16-2014 01:15 PM

Hey, not all of SWMO is like that..

KC native 04-16-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10566585)
Hey, not all of SWMO is like that..

Just 99.99% of it.

greatgooglymoogly 04-16-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10566585)
Hey, not all of SWMO is like that..

Speaking as a lifelong resident of the Ozarks, yes it is. You can even find these attitudes in Springfield without listening too closely. FGS, the Missouri State marching band played Dixie on the square, where two innocent blacks were lynched around the turn of the century. This didn't happen in the 1950's, it happened a couple of years ago.

BlackHelicopters 04-16-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10566601)
Speaking as a lifelong resident of the Ozarks, yes it is. You can even find these attitudes in Springfield without listening too closely. FGS, the Missouri State marching band played Dixie on the square, where two innocent blacks were lynched around the turn of the century.

Stay classy.

Jimmya 04-16-2014 01:21 PM

Dumbass!

greatgooglymoogly 04-16-2014 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10566607)
Stay classy.

Link for reference: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1156335.html

...and a correction: it was actually three blacks. Apologies for my error above.

seaofred 04-16-2014 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10566591)
Just 99.99% of it.

So, 1 person does something bad and 1 other person has similar views that makes up 99.99%?

gblowfish 04-16-2014 01:24 PM

George has been kinda busy trying to make a living this week....

KC native 04-16-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10566613)
So, 1 person does something bad and 1 other person has similar views that makes up 99.99%?

Yes, when using chiefsplanet math it does.

seaofred 04-16-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10566620)
Yes, when using chiefsplanet math it does.

LMAO

BlackHelicopters 04-16-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10566620)
Yes, when using chiefsplanet math it does.

1+1=3

Skyy God 04-16-2014 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10566585)
Hey, not all of SWMO is like that..

Data would suggest otherwise.

http://users.humboldt.edu/mstephens/hate/hate_map.html

seaofred 04-16-2014 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10566715)

So looking at that, what is the hate tweet per capita? Also, how many of those hate tweets are from different users?

Plus looking at that map, it looks like there is more hate tweets from the east coast.

Eureka 04-16-2014 02:10 PM

Us people who live elsewhere should force our beliefs or tell those towns people who to elect as mayor. (Sarcastic)

Jewish or not those 3 people didn't deserve to die. The shooter should be hanged

seaofred 04-16-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10566520)
Im looking at Marionville right now....why does it even need a Mayor? It looks like it's the size of a small community that should be governed by something bigger. Seriously, my neighborhood is bigger than that.
1.76 Sq Miles. Yeah.......that place doesn't need its own Mayor. Cut that guy off the teet asap.

I guess the guy was voted Mayor with about 180 votes.. Out of 2200 ish people.. Crazy.

Skyy God 04-16-2014 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10566769)
I guess the guy was voted Mayor with about 180 votes.. Out of 2200 ish people.. Crazy.

April elections typical have terrible turnout.

ptlyon 04-16-2014 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 10566769)
I guess the guy was voted Mayor with about 180 votes.. Out of 2200 ish people.. Crazy.

Maybe the vote was taken on a Sunday

Tribal Warfare 04-16-2014 02:23 PM

if this shit happened in this area of SWMO it wouldn't be a story because the KKK contingent would sweep it under the rug like it never happened.

philfree 04-16-2014 02:26 PM

Marionville used to have a BBQ place right on the HWY. Bowling's BBQ. They'd sell their BBQ in bucket to take home and eat at your leisure. I miss that place.

Skyy God 04-16-2014 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10566783)
if this shit happened in this area of SWMO it wouldn't be a story because the KKK contingent would sweep it under the rug like it never happened.

National KKK HQ is in the Ozarks, near Harrison.

kepp 04-16-2014 02:28 PM

Not defending the guy...he obviously has racist/bigoted views...but he didn't say what's quoted in the thread title. He said, "...but knowing him and how much was built up inside of him, I can understand why he would be the one to do that". Most of you are making it sound like he's cheering the deaths.

tooge 04-16-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 10566776)
Maybe the vote was taken on a Sunday

Maybe the vote was taken during a lynching

philfree 04-16-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10566783)
if this shit happened in this area of SWMO it wouldn't be a story because the KKK contingent would sweep it under the rug like it never happened.

I'm sure there is some around but I've never met, seen or even heard of a KKK member in SWMO and I've lived here all my life.

ToxSocks 04-16-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 10566755)
Us people who live elsewhere should force our beliefs or tell those towns people who to elect as mayor. (Sarcastic)

Force our beliefs? How about expecting some decency and respect for people that aren't white? Apparently that's asking for too much from a Mayor.

Actually, we shouldn't even call him a Mayor. For a "City" that small, he's more of a neighborhood watch captain than a Mayor. Who pays him anyway? The state or the county? Either way, they should drop the dead weight expense.

Tribal Warfare 04-16-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 10566794)
National KKK HQ is in the Ozarks, near Harrison.

Yep, infact one of their main gathering venues was Fantastic Caverns way back when.

Tribal Warfare 04-16-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10566801)
I'm sure there is some around but I've never met, seen or even heard of a KKK member in SWMO and I've lived here all my life.

I have, multiple times if "they" like you it's no problem but if they don't it's a totally different issue.

ptlyon 04-16-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10566803)
Yep, infact one of their main gathering venues was Fantastic Caverns way back when.

Did they serve ice cream?

Skyy God 04-16-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 10566799)
Not defending the guy...he obviously has racist/bigoted views...but he didn't say what's quoted in the thread title. He said, "...but knowing him and how much was built up inside of him, I can understand why he would be the one to do that". Most of you are making it sound like he's cheering the deaths.

It's a variant of Chris Rock's OJ/Nicole joke.

philfree 04-16-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10566806)
I have, multiple times if "they" like you it's no problem but if they don't it's a totally different issue.

How did you know they were KKK?

ToxSocks 04-16-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10566810)
How did you know they were KKK?

Said so on the T-Shirt pocket.

Tribal Warfare 04-16-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 10566808)
Did they serve ice cream?

Pastries, and the others are respected businessmen.

Tribal Warfare 04-16-2014 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10566810)
How did you know they were KKK?

One gave me a KKK dagger as a gift.

philfree 04-16-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10566816)
One gave me a KKK dagger as a gift.

It doesn't sound like you were just walking or driving down the street and came across some KKK dudes. Sound like you were hanging out with'em...Hmmmmm

Skyy God 04-16-2014 02:37 PM

Burning up the Marionville charts, here's Collins & Harlan's latest.

Spoiler!

htismaqe 04-16-2014 02:38 PM

Dude, put that in spoiler tags. That could be considered filter evasion and get you banned.

Tribal Warfare 04-16-2014 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10566820)
It doesn't sound like you were just walking or driving down the street and came across some KKK dudes. Sound like you were hanging out with'em...Hmmmmm

I'm not racist, never been my posting history dictate that but the individuals I speak of are and have some clout in the world who've I known since I was a little kid.

greatgooglymoogly 04-16-2014 02:48 PM

I don't personally know any members, but it's pretty well understood around here that they're about. They occasionally paper a Springfield neighborhood or proselytize in a small town. I'm surprised that people are surprised by this.

Eureka 04-16-2014 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10566802)
Force our beliefs? How about expecting some decency and respect for people that aren't white? Apparently that's asking for too much from a Mayor.

Actually, we shouldn't even call him a Mayor. For a "City" that small, he's more of a neighborhood watch captain than a Mayor. Who pays him anyway? The state or the county? Either way, they should drop the dead weight expense.

Most Jewish peeps I know are white. He ummmm hates white people!

MOhillbilly 04-16-2014 06:44 PM

I think he killed in kansas so he didn't have to do time in missouri where David Tate is housed and considered a god among white prisoners.

listopencil 04-16-2014 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10566810)
How did you know they were KKK?

I've been around a few. I made a point of disassociating myself from them.

MOhillbilly 04-16-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10566601)
Speaking as a lifelong resident of the Ozarks, yes it is. You can even find these attitudes in Springfield without listening too closely. FGS, the Missouri State marching band played Dixie on the square, where two innocent blacks were lynched around the turn of the century. This didn't happen in the 1950's, it happened a couple of years ago.

Link to the Dixie playing?

MOhillbilly 04-16-2014 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10566803)
Yep, infact one of their main gathering venues was Fantastic Caverns way back when.

For thirty + years I lived less than a mile from fantastic caverns. Matter of fact my family grew up on that same ridge and I know for a fact kkk shit wasn't tolerated.
They moved out that way in 34' and not once have I ever been witness or heard of any kkk gatherings.

So you must be talkin about ancient history.

Tribal Warfare 04-16-2014 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 10567384)
For thirty + years I lived less than a mile from fantastic caverns. Matter of fact my family grew up on that same ridge and I know for a fact kkk shit wasn't tolerated.
They moved out that way in 34' and not once have I ever been witness or heard of any kkk gatherings.

So you must be talkin about ancient history.

surprised, because I have heard about this type of stuff.

for example concerning their existence

Spoiler!


Spoiler!

greatgooglymoogly 04-16-2014 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 10567373)
Link to the Dixie playing?

http://www.news-leader.com/article/2...playing-Dixie-

Part of the article is cut off due to the News-Leader's paid archive system, so here are other links:

http://thegrio.com/2011/12/20/missou...-played-dixie/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1156335.html

Pants 04-16-2014 07:30 PM

Not surprising at all.

FloridaMan88 04-16-2014 07:53 PM

JFC, Missouri is upstaging Florida this week in state humiliation… that is quite an "accomplishment".

MOhillbilly 04-16-2014 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10567418)
surprised, because I have heard about this type of stuff.

for example concerning their existence

Spoiler!


Spoiler!

I was talking specifically about the klan having rallies out on the rural route.

MOhillbilly 04-16-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10567469)

The white mans guilt is strong in those articles.

Reerun_KC 04-16-2014 08:08 PM

Missouri strong.

Rukdafaidas 04-16-2014 08:13 PM

Even the squirrels are white in Marionville.

Eleazar 04-16-2014 09:35 PM

I don't get this Jewish conspiracy theory stuff. Do these nuts think they walk around like The Borg, communicating with each other all day?

Dave Lane 04-16-2014 09:45 PM

I have nothing to add to the ignorance displayed in the opening post. It's beyond belief.

That this generational hate and bigotry is dying out is a good thing. It's a shame too because there where many great people of this generation who's memories are tarnished by fools like these.

vailpass 04-16-2014 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10568011)
I don't get this Jewish conspiracy theory stuff. Do these nuts think they walk around like The Borg, communicating with each other all day?

They don't?

Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-17-2014 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10566801)
I'm sure there is some around but I've never met, seen or even heard of a KKK member in SWMO and I've lived here all my life.

Same here.

Jimmya 04-17-2014 04:55 AM

They will all die out to be followed by other haters.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-17-2014 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10566601)
Speaking as a lifelong resident of the Ozarks, yes it is.

Who appointed you the official spokesperson for SWMO? You make it sound like something off A Time To Kill. There have been some awful things happen in the area, but to say almost every single person is a white supremacist is ridiculous. But now, outsiders will think everyone here is like that. Great job.

Tribal Warfare 04-17-2014 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 10568352)
Who appointed you the official spokesperson for SWMO? You make it sound like something off A Time To Kill. But now, outsiders will think everyone here is like that. Great job.

In certain areas yeah, its Mississippi Burning

Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-17-2014 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10568353)
In certain areas yeah, its Mississippi Burning

All thriving communities, I'm sure...

Tribal Warfare 04-17-2014 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 10568354)
All thriving communities, I'm sure...


actually yeah, that's the thing these guys are successful, but they don't advertise it

Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-17-2014 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10568355)
actually yeah

Such as?

Jiu Jitsu Jon 04-17-2014 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10566792)
Marionville used to have a BBQ place right on the HWY. Bowling's BBQ. They'd sell their BBQ in bucket to take home and eat at your leisure. I miss that place.

When did that place close? I remember eating there when I was young. There's a place in downtown Aurora that's not too shabby.

Otter 04-17-2014 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 10566799)
Not defending the guy...he obviously has racist/bigoted views...but he didn't say what's quoted in the thread title. He said, "...but knowing him and how much was built up inside of him, I can understand why he would be the one to do that". Most of you are making it sound like he's cheering the deaths.

Misleading thread title + Not reading the article + Knee jerk response = The Mob has Spoken!!!

Hoopsdoc 04-17-2014 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10568011)
I don't get this Jewish conspiracy theory stuff. Do these nuts think they walk around like The Borg, communicating with each other all day?

I've always wondered this myself. To read or listen to the lunatic anti-Semites, you'd think Jewish people are all ten feet tall with laser eyeballs. Seriously, they blame "tha Joo's" for EVERYTHING.

Mind boggling.

philfree 04-17-2014 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiu Jitsu Jon (Post 10568357)
When did that place close? I remember eating there when I was young. There's a place in downtown Aurora that's not too shabby.

Burnt down over 20 years ago.

BigRedChief 04-17-2014 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 10567492)
Not surprising at all.

I spent a year of my life living in Aurora. Definitely redneck/ignorant/uneducated and proud of it territory.

ThatRaceCardGuy 04-17-2014 07:11 AM

I think the mayor was saying the guy was filled with hate so he would understand why he would do that...not that he condoned it.

BigRedChief 04-17-2014 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thatguy (Post 10568421)
I think the mayor was saying the guy was filled with hate so he would understand why he would do that...not that he condoned it.

Or maybe that he didn't know about the Jews control the world theories but he could see how it may be true.


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