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Dante84 03-31-2014 03:24 PM

Forecasting the Future: 2014 Unknowns
 
Below is what beach tribe thinks.

Let's see what CP as a whole thinks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530686)
I expect Fisher to make huge strides over an injury filled Rookie season.
I think we may take a step back at G, which is the least important position in football.

Outside of that, we are talking about..what. Replacing McCluster? How will ever manage to do that?
I See Bowe having a Monster year. Hell, AJ Jenkins is as good as McCluster.

We are going to get Something out of either, Kelce, or Cummings. Might not be much, but I'll bet it's more that K. Lewis provided.

The whole approach seems to be trusting in the drafted players.
I think Kush is going to contribute, maybe even allowing Hudson to move to G where I think he can really help out.

Houston is going to have a MONSTER season

I believe Smith will have a career season.

I think Catapano can contribute
I think we will get some help through the draft.

I KNOW that all of these things will not work out, but I believe some of them will.

Enough to, yes, improve the team.

Basically all the new and 2nd year players will have to fall flat on their faces for us to not have any chance at improving.

If half of the possible positive things that could happen , do, we will be improved.
If Dorsey has failed on on all those picks, and fails again this season, then we will in fact have the shit season so many people are predicting.
I'm just not ready to throw in the towel on two seasons worth of drafting yet.
Again, I know a lot of this stuff won't happen, but some of it will, and when it does, along with the continued development of our existing players we will be an improved football team.

Thats really not huge or unrealistic expectations.


Discuss Thrower 03-31-2014 03:44 PM

Fisher better
Guards worse
Bowe similar
AJ > McCluster
Kelce won't contribute
Commings > Lewis (If healthy)
Houston similar
Alex 2014 < Alex 2013
Catapano won't contribute
3-4 draft picks won't contribute

Direckshun 03-31-2014 03:47 PM

In my most recent mock, I drafted a starting guard, a "starting" slot receiver, a DL to relieve Poe, and some developmental reserve talents at S, TE, and RB.

That's probably two contributors, and maybe a third if that DL comes along. But the remaining three picks will be third stringers.

htismaqe 03-31-2014 03:50 PM

Fisher WILL improve
OGs WILL NOT be better
Bowe WILL NOT be significantly better than last year
AJ Jenkins WILL NOT be an improvement over McCluster
Kelce WILL NOT be a solid contributor
Commings WILL be better than Lewis
Houston WILL NOT be significantly better than last year
Alex Smith WILL be better
Catapano WILL be a solid contributor
They WILL NOT get 3-4 legit contributors out of this draft

O.city 03-31-2014 04:03 PM

I think Jenkins has the potential to be better than dexter. A lot better actually.

beach tribe 03-31-2014 04:24 PM

Great thread.

Lightrise 03-31-2014 04:36 PM

I agree with the majority on every question.

Easy 6 03-31-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530919)
Great thread.

Agreed, I was about to post the same thing... pretty good way to get peoples views "in writing" before the season.

AustinChief 03-31-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10530865)
Fisher WILL improve
OGs WILL NOT be better
Bowe WILL NOT be significantly better than last year
AJ Jenkins WILL NOT be an improvement over McCluster
Kelce WILL NOT be a solid contributor
Commings WILL be better than Lewis
Houston WILL NOT be significantly better than last year
Alex Smith WILL be better
Catapano WILL be a solid contributor
They WILL NOT get 3-4 legit contributors out of this draft

Copying your post cuz I'm lazy...

Fisher WILL improve
OGs WILL be similar
Bowe WILL be better than last year because he sucked balls last year
Jenkins WILL be an improvement over McCluster because he fits the o better
Kelce WILL be a solid contributor but nothing world shaking
Commings WILL be better than Lewis (duh)
Houston WILL NOT be significantly better than last year
Alex Smith WILL be better
Catapano WILL be a solid contributor when he plays but that won't be often
They WILL NOT get 3-4 legit contributors out of this draft

htismaqe 03-31-2014 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10530886)
I think Jenkins has the potential to be better than dexter. A lot better actually.

He also has the possibility of not ever seeing the field...

O.city 03-31-2014 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10530989)
He also has the possibility of not ever seeing the field...

I dunno, chiefs seem to be really high on him.

Strongside 03-31-2014 04:59 PM

Where is the Linkenbach option? I didn't see a Linkenbach option.

AustinChief 03-31-2014 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10530989)
He also has the possibility of not ever seeing the field...

Agreed. He has a high potential to totally bust but if not I think he can be a better fit than Dex.

Rain Man 03-31-2014 06:08 PM

There appears to be a consensus that Commings will be better than Kendrick Lewis.

I'd like to see a control question about whether that fat woman on the Mike and Molly TV show would be better than Kendrick Lewis.

digger 03-31-2014 06:21 PM

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RealSNR 03-31-2014 06:33 PM

Fisher WILL improve. He surely can't get any worse.

G play WILL drop off significantly from last year. I don't expect Allen to improve any, and we're one injury away from looking at Jeff ****ing Linkenbach. And I don't trust rookies to do shit. Kansas City hasn't drafted good OL who played well as rookies in quite some time.

Bowe WILL have a better season than last year. Again, he can't be worse

AJ Jenkins WON'T be an improvement over McMidget. Last year Dex finally found his niche as a short range 3rd down possession receiver on crosses and slants. I don't trust Jenkins to do shit just because he caught a couple passes in the playoffs.

Kelce WON'T be a solid contributor. I define solid contributor as somebody who does something more than Fasano/McGrath. If you look at the preseason games, Kelce sucked dick. Again, show me you can look good outside of training camp

Commings WILL be better than Lewis. Duh.

Houston WILL be better than last year. I think that because he had to sit out a few games and also got "figured out" by offenses (thanks, Sutton). I don't know if he'll be a monster, but he'll be better than last year.

Alex Smith WILL have a better season. And that's considering the mammoth defenses he has to face. He finally figured shit out as things went along.

Catapano WON'T be a solid contributor this year. Again, ****ing show me. I don't want hype. Hype is what I bought during the Vermeil years. Never again.

2014 draft class WON'T have 3-4 solid contributors in it. 3-4 is a lot, and the Chiefs are a good(ish) team as it is. We couldn't cobble together one single solid contributor in 2013 and we had the #1 pick.

ForeverChiefs58 03-31-2014 07:04 PM

I'm guessing the people who believe Jenkins will be better than McCluster, also believe Kelce and Cummings will be...well...better than...their carreer so far has shown?

Easy 6 04-03-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 10531252)
I'm guessing the people who believe Jenkins will be better than McCluster, also believe Kelce and Cummings will be...well...better than...their carreer so far has shown?

Jenkins not only has better size and speed, but he's been a receiver for years and years... its not some position being thrust upon him out of necessity.

Dex was an All-Pro returner and truly grew into a serviceable slot player last year, I've given him his due credit time and again for that... but for upside strictly as a receiver? Jenkins ceiling is the stratosphere while Dex' was just barely clearing that medium sized hill over there...

ForeverChiefs58 04-03-2014 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10537896)
Jenkins not only has better size and speed, but he's been a receiver for years and years... its not some position being thrust upon him out of necessity.

Dex was an All-Pro returner and truly grew into a serviceable slot player last year, I've given him his due credit time and again for that... but for upside strictly as a receiver? Jenkins ceiling is the stratosphere while Dex' was just barely clearing that medium sized hill over there...

Hey, I hope Jenkins turns into the next Jerry Rice too, but having the distinction as the only 1st rd WR in nfl history to not catch a pass is not something that seems rationale to put a lot of hope into.

Easy 6 04-03-2014 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 10538015)
Hey, I hope Jenkins turns into the next Jerry Rice too, but having the distinction as the only 1st rd WR in nfl history to not catch a pass is not something that seems rationale to put a lot of hope into.

I'm not counting my chickens just yet, but I still have far more faith in this guy becoming a gamebreaking WR than I EVER did Dex.

Dex had a limited ceiling, what else can I say?

WhiteWhale 04-03-2014 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10538064)
I'm not counting my chickens just yet, but I still have far more faith in this guy becoming a gamebreaking WR than I EVER did Dex.

Dex had a limited ceiling, what else can I say?

I think people should stick with hoping he can become a contributor before worrying about him becoming a 'gamebreaking WR". I doubt that will ever happen.

TEX 04-03-2014 07:47 PM

I cant believe all those who feel Kelce is going to make a significant difference this season. He looked terrible when he played in pre season last year but beyond that, he's coming off micro surgery and thats a difficult thing to overcome.

TEX 04-03-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10538083)
I think people should stick with hoping he can become a contributor before worrying about him becoming a 'gamebreaking WR". I doubt that will ever happen.

Yea, but he improved a great deal in only year 1 of Andy Reid and dude was a big threat in the return game. He's going to be missed.

Rausch 04-03-2014 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10538088)
I cant believe all those who feel Kelce is going to make a significant difference this season. He looked terrible when he played in pre season last year but beyond that, he's coming off micro surgery and thats a difficult thing to overcome.

I doubt Tony Kelce ever starts a game for us...

007 04-03-2014 08:01 PM

I had more won'ts than wills

Easy 6 04-03-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10538083)
I think people should stick with hoping he can become a contributor before worrying about him becoming a 'gamebreaking WR". I doubt that will ever happen.

Pop Quiz... you have to fill a receiver spot right now, based on what we have seen, who do you choose?

Me? I'll take the relatively unproven 6' 190 guy with 4.4 speed over the 5'8 175 guy with 5.4 speed all day long... is there a bit of Hope and Wish involved? of course.

But most coaches can find a decent punt returner for much less than Dex commanded... we don't need an awesome punt returner, we NEED a killer receiver, and Jenkins has about 1000 times better chance of becoming that player.

Easy 6 04-03-2014 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10538103)
I doubt Tony Kelce ever starts a game for us...

No doubt, Bob Kelce? **** that guy...

SeeingRed 04-03-2014 08:08 PM

I answered positively to almost all questions. I was stuck on 2014 draft class (how do we know that when we dont even know who they are yet?) and AJ Jenkins being better than McCluster. I said no about Jenkins but I hope I'm wrong. I believe pretty strongly in contributions from Kelce, Commings and Catapano. I sure hope Fisher has an improved season since this is vital.

Ragged Robin 04-03-2014 08:10 PM

Alex Smith will have a better season because he's a muthafukin baus and was lighting doods up in the last half of the season. Jenkins/McCluster is not a fair comparison because technically Bowe will be replacing McCluster in the slot when they're outside base personnel which is what they did in the last few games including the playoffs. As a #3 option contributor? Maybe, but I'm hoping we draft TWO receivers in the mid rounds who will instantly become contributors, thus moving Jenkins/Avery down the depth chart.

SeeingRed 04-03-2014 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10538103)
I doubt Tony Kelce ever starts a game for us...

You mean Travis Kelce :hmmm:

Hopefully he is fully recovered from his surgery and if he is I feel he will be a HUGE boost for the offense.

Easy 6 04-03-2014 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeeingRed (Post 10538130)
You mean Travis Kelce :hmmm:

Hopefully he is fully recovered from his surgery and if he is I feel he will be a HUGE boost for the offense.

Right, I sure hope Jim Bob Kelce gets it together.

bevischief 04-03-2014 08:35 PM

They sure have been interviewing a bunch of projected late round and undrafted picks in this draft. Just saying.

Why Not? 04-03-2014 09:05 PM

Liked the Kelce pick when it was made. Reality is he has a better chance of never taking a regular season snap then he does being a major contributer.


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