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ShowtimeSBMVP 03-31-2014 11:30 AM

Free-agent Lions OT Jason Fox is visiting the Chiefs
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Free-agent Lions OT Jason Fox is visiting the Chiefs today, per league source.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/statuses/450686056883425280">March 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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MIAdragon 03-31-2014 11:31 AM

Jack Shit.

In58men 03-31-2014 11:31 AM

Garbage

MIAdragon 03-31-2014 11:32 AM

and he's hurt all the time.

alpha_omega 03-31-2014 11:32 AM

F-O-X

MIAdragon 03-31-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 10529833)
F-O-X

What does it say?

King_Chief_Fan 03-31-2014 11:32 AM

Glad it isn't John Fox.........he might get you to the superbowl but he won't win you one

keg in kc 03-31-2014 11:33 AM

I should just hotkey "who?"

Simply Red 03-31-2014 11:33 AM

I have no clue who that is.

alpha_omega 03-31-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 10529835)
What does it say?

I was just spelling it out for the raider fans who are sure to stop by.

Bowser 03-31-2014 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 10529835)
What does it say?

It says

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The Franchise 03-31-2014 11:37 AM

I was actually interested in drafting the kid. He'd be a decent swing tackle but I thought that's why they signed Linkenbach?

mcaj22 03-31-2014 11:38 AM

I have him in the Sandbox League go Chiefs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steron 03-31-2014 11:42 AM

Who?

Big Poppa Payne 03-31-2014 11:43 AM

The Kansas City Jokes

Steron 03-31-2014 11:45 AM

Is this the OL we all know?

Bowser 03-31-2014 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10529874)
I was actually interested in drafting the kid. He'd be a decent swing tackle but I thought that's why they signed Linkenbach?

Linkenbach = depth guard

Fox = depth tackle


I'm assuming?

The Franchise 03-31-2014 11:46 AM

Do some ****ing research.....JFC.

4th rounder in 2010. Took over the RT job from Gosder Cherilus in 2013.

Simply Red 03-31-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10529918)
Do some ****ing research.....JFC.

4th rounder in 2010. Took over the RT job from Gosder Cherilus in 2013.

waah

Deberg_1990 03-31-2014 11:50 AM

would be a shrewd FA signing.....

MIAdragon 03-31-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10529918)
Do some ****ing research.....JFC.

4th rounder in 2010. Took over the RT job from Gosder Cherilus in 2013.

Can't stay on the field.

bevischief 03-31-2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10529841)
I should just hotkey "who?"

Yep.

planetdoc 03-31-2014 12:03 PM

205 snaps in 2013 with a -1.9 PFF rating.

He has nice physical tools, but who knows if he has developed any since being drafted.

The Franchise 03-31-2014 12:04 PM

Free agent OT Jason Fox is visiting the Chiefs on Monday.

Kansas City's offensive line is starved for depth after Geoff Schwartz, Jon Asamoah, and Branden Albert all walked. The old backups become the new starters, leaving little behind. Fox, 25, is athletic enough to "swing" between both left tackle and right tackle, but played the right side in Detroit.

Mr. Laz 03-31-2014 12:05 PM

swing tackle competition


who?

O.city 03-31-2014 12:06 PM

Lotta upside atleast

nychief 03-31-2014 12:07 PM

I don't know him...he sucks.

ct 03-31-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 10529822)
Jack Shit.

/thread

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-31-2014 12:12 PM

Fantastic tanking strategy.

After going 6-10, next year they will cut Hali, Bowe, and Flowers.

tecumseh 03-31-2014 12:14 PM

JAG

The Franchise 03-31-2014 12:21 PM

The more offensive linemen they sign.....the better. Less chance of them blowing a high pick on one. I'm sure Rishaw Johnson will be starting with Linkenbach as guard depth. Fox would be OT depth.

mcaj22 03-31-2014 12:23 PM

Also a good spot starter/insurance policy in case their #1 overall pick gets hurt again or is still an alligator arming get Alex Smith killed type of player

Easy 6 03-31-2014 12:27 PM

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The Franchise 03-31-2014 12:28 PM

I'd actually be happy with this signing as long as it's cheap.

The Franchise 03-31-2014 12:29 PM

LT - Fisher, Fox
LG - Allen, Linkenbach
C - Hudson, Kush
RG - R. Johnson, Linkenbach
RT - Stephenson, Fox

Dante84 03-31-2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10530117)
LT - Fisher, Fox
LG - Allen, Linkenbach
C - Hudson, Kush
RG - R. Johnson, Linkenbach
RT - Stephenson, Fox

If Fisher goes down, Stephenson slides to LT and Fox is RT.

The Franchise 03-31-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10530144)
If Fisher goes down, Stephenson slides to LT and Fox is RT.

Yep....and both of them have the experience necessary at the respective tackle spots.

Dante84 03-31-2014 12:39 PM

This must have been who Mitch was talking about lol

Bowser 03-31-2014 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10530182)
This must have been who Mitch was talking about lol

Heh. That sly Holthus, always getting the scoop.

spanky 52 03-31-2014 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10530040)
Fantastic tanking strategy.

After going 6-10, next year they will cut Hali, Bowe, and Flowers.

Don't know about Bowe but have to believe Hali and Flowers get cut regardless of how the Chiefs finish.

beach tribe 03-31-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky 52 (Post 10530226)
Don't know about Bowe but have to believe Hali and Flowers get cut regardless of how the Chiefs finish.

Hopefully they will get re-structured.

beach tribe 03-31-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10530040)
Fantastic tanking strategy.

After going 6-10, next year they will cut Hali, Bowe, and Flowers.

LMAO.

Am I the only person on this board who thinks this team might actually improve this season?

The offense, QB especially, improved throughout 2013, and I think they will be even better this season.
More pass rush, and better Secondary play improves the D.

We Can be better that 2013.

Mr. Laz 03-31-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530444)
LMAO.

Am I the only person on this board who thinks this team might actually improve this season?

The offense, QB especially, improved throughout 2013, and I think they will be even better this season.
More pass rush, and better Secondary play improves the D.

We Can be better that 2013.

So our backups, that weren't good enough to win the starting job or even able to see the field, are now going to be improvements over the guys they couldn't beat out last year?

Our starters weren't better than Denver last year but our backups are going to be better than an improved Denver team this year?

New World Order 03-31-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 10529838)
Glad it isn't John Fox.........he might get you to the superbowl but he won't win you one


Kinda like our coach.

BlackHelicopters 03-31-2014 01:49 PM

Camp fodder.

bricks 03-31-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530444)
LMAO.

Am I the only person on this board who thinks this team might actually improve this season?

The offense, QB especially, improved throughout 2013, and I think they will be even better this season.
More pass rush, and better Secondary play improves the D.

We Can be better that 2013.

I assure you, the D won't improve.

Let's not forget that they kept Bob Sutton. That is all we need to know about the defense as to why it'll be shit.

TEX 03-31-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10530477)
So our backups, that weren't good enough to win the starting job or even able to see the field, are now going to be improvements over the guys they couldn't beat out last year?

Our starters weren't better than Denver last year but our backups are going to be better than an improved Denver team this year?

Yes...LMAO

loochy 03-31-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530444)
Am I the only person on this board who thinks this team might actually improve this season?

Yes. I think you actually are the only person.

No joke, no homo.

Mr. Laz 03-31-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10530607)
Yes...

w00t!!!

PBJ PBJ

Easy 6 03-31-2014 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530444)
LMAO.

Am I the only person on this board who thinks this team might actually improve this season?

The offense, QB especially, improved throughout 2013, and I think they will be even better this season.
More pass rush, and better Secondary play improves the D.

We Can be better that 2013.

Sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I'm expecting us to step back a bit this year... theres just going to be too much reliance on second year guys who are unknown quantities and rookies.

Our biggest offensive need will have to be filled by either a rookie, and we all know how successful most rookie receivers are, or we're going to count on Jenkins taking a huge stride forward, and while I really like his potential... I didn't want to have to count on him.

Same thing with our biggest defensive need... its either going to be filled by a rookie or a second year guy who hasn't played a down of pro football. Its not a situation that inspires any confidence in me at all, theres just too many unknowns, too many stars that have to perfectly align.

What the O line becomes is up in the air.
What Kelce can do is up in the air.
Who can step in for Hali and play well is up in the air.
Will Cooper take another stride forward is up in the air.

Yeah man... just a TON of what if's, maybe's and unknown's this year.

planetdoc 03-31-2014 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10530666)
Sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I'm expecting us to step back a bit this year

even if the 2014 team is somehow better than the 2013 team they face a much harder schedule which will likely reflect in the w-L column.

Easy 6 03-31-2014 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10530673)
even if the 2014 team is somehow better than the 2013 team they face a much harder schedule which will likely reflect in the w-L column.

Yep, go ahead and throw in that kill shot while we're at it.

LoneWolf 03-31-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10530477)
So our backups, that weren't good enough to win the starting job or even able to see the field, are now going to be improvements over the guys they couldn't beat out last year?

Our starters weren't better than Denver last year but our backups are going to be better than an improved Denver team this year?

How many backups from last season do you think are going to be starters this season?

I count four: Abdullah (definite upgrade from Lewis), Stephenson (upgrade from Fisher's play at RT last season), Jenkins (on paper a downgrade from McCluster, but his ceiling is definitely higher), and Johnson (downgrade from Schwartz).

beach tribe 03-31-2014 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10530477)
So our backups, that weren't good enough to win the starting job or even able to see the field, are now going to be improvements over the guys they couldn't beat out last year?

Our starters weren't better than Denver last year but our backups are going to be better than an improved Denver team this year?

I expect Fisher to make huge strides over an injury filled Rookie season.
I think we may take a step back at G, which is the least important position in football.

Outside of that, we are talking about..what. Replacing McCluster? How will ever manage to do that?
I See Bowe having a Monster year. Hell, AJ Jenkins is as good as McCluster.

We are going to get Something out of either, Kelce, or Cummings. Might not be much, but I'll bet it's more that K. Lewis provided.

The whole approach seems to be trusting in the drafted players.
I think Kush is going to contribute, maybe even allowing Hudson to move to G where I think he can really help out.

Houston is going to have a MONSTER season

I believe Smith will have a career season.

I think Catapano can contribute
I think we will get some help through the draft.

I KNOW that all of these things will not work out, but I believe some of them will.

Enough to, yes, improve the team.

Basically all the new and 2nd year players will have to fall flat on their faces for us to not have any chance at improving.

If half of the possible positive things that could happen , do, we will be improved.
If Dorsey has failed on on all those picks, and fails again this season, then we will in fact have the shit season so many people are predicting.
I'm just not ready to throw in the towel on two seasons worth of drafting yet.
Again, I know a lot of this stuff won't happen, but some of it will, and when it does, along with the continued development of our existing players we will be an improved football team.

Thats really not huge or unrealistic expectations.

TEX 03-31-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530686)
I expect Fisher to make huge strides over an injury filled Rookie season.
I think we may take a step back at G, which is the least important position in football.

Outside of that, we are talking about..what. Replacing McCluster? How will ever manage to do that?
I See Bowe having a Monster year. Hell, AJ Jenkins is as good as McCluster.

We are going to get Something out of either, Kelce, or Cummings. Might not be much, but I'll bet it's more that K. Lewis provided.

The whole approach seems to be trusting in the drafted players.
I think Kush is going to contribute, maybe even allowing Hudson to move to G where I think he can really help out.

Houston is going to have a MONSTER season

I believe Smith will have a career season.

I think Catapano can contribute
I think we will get some help through the draft.

I KNOW that all of these things will not work out, but I believe some of them will.

Enough to, yes, improve the team.

Basically all the new and 2nd year players will have to fall flat on their faces for us to not have any chance at improving.

If half of the possible positive things that could happen , do, we will be improved.
If Dorsey has failed on on all those picks, and fails again this season, then we will in fact have the shit season so many people are predicting.
I'm just not ready to throw in the towel on two seasons worth of drafting yet.
Again, I know a lot of this stuff won't happen, but some of it will, and when it does, along with the continued development of our existing players we will be an improved football team.

Thats really not huge or unrealistic expectations.

When there are more "IF's" than anything, thats both huge and unrealistic.

htismaqe 03-31-2014 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10530682)
How many backups from last season do you think are going to be starters this season?

I count four: Abdullah (definite upgrade from Lewis), Stephenson (upgrade from Fisher's play at RT last season), Jenkins (on paper a downgrade from McCluster, but his ceiling is definitely higher), and Johnson (downgrade from Schwartz).

I think it will be Commings rather than Abdullah...

LoneWolf 03-31-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10530716)
I think it will be Commings rather than Abdullah...

Either way, it is an upgrade over Lewis.

Titty Meat 03-31-2014 02:47 PM

A shitty player go Dorsey!

beach tribe 03-31-2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10530695)
When there are more "IF's" than anything, thats both huge and unrealistic.

So you expect all of our rookies ad 2nd year players to fail?

The IF in, IF they all fail is a big one too.

Expecting HALF is not huge or unrealistic.

mikey23545 03-31-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10530695)
When there are more "IF's" than anything, thats both huge and unrealistic.

When you pretend every single "if" has to happen to improve the team, that's huge and unrealistic...and stupid as shit.

htismaqe 03-31-2014 02:57 PM

Fox is a solid depth move in that he could probably play either tackle position in a pinch.

Much like signing Linkenbach really, except that we don't have a sure starter in front of Linkenbach yet.

At least this moves Zach Martin down the draft board a few more spots, hopefully.

beach tribe 03-31-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10530764)
Fox is a solid depth move in that he could probably play either tackle position in a pinch.

Much like signing Linkenbach really, except that we don't have a sure starter in front of Linkenbach yet.

At least this moves Zach Martin down the draft board a few more spots, hopefully.

Linkenbach is total shit IMO too, though.

Don't know eneough about this guy to form an opinion, but I really hope Linkenbach doesn't make the 53.

htismaqe 03-31-2014 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530778)
Linkenbach is total shit IMO too, though.

Don't know eneough about this guy to form an opinion, but I really hope Linkenbach doesn't make the 53.

Considering what we have at guard, I don't see any way they can leave him off.

The Franchise 03-31-2014 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530778)
Linkenbach is total shit IMO too, though.

Don't know eneough about this guy to form an opinion, but I really hope Linkenbach doesn't make the 53.

Played RT his freshman year at Miami. LT for the rest of his career.

His rookie year he was out with a knee injury left over from his college days. The next year he had a broken foot. If he can stay healthy....he's solid depth at OT.

TEX 03-31-2014 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 10530756)
When you pretend every single "if" has to happen to improve the team, that's huge and unrealistic...and stupid as shit.

I agree. Now when you make stuff up that other people never said, like this for example, you're a liar as well as being someone who says stuff that is stupid as shit...

TEX 03-31-2014 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530744)
So you expect all of our rookies ad 2nd year players to fail?

The IF in, IF they all fail is a big one too.

Expecting HALF is not huge or unrealistic.

Nope. Never said that. Go read what I said. You are now expecting only HALF of what you originally said, so if you keep lowering your expectations, we'll soon agree...;)

htismaqe 03-31-2014 03:17 PM

The only clear and quantifiable improvement from last year would be to win a playoff game.

I think even the biggest Dorsey/Reid fans might have a hard time saying that they EXPECT that to happen.

That being said, I really don't see this team going in the tank. They're not bad enough for that to happen barring some freak accident (like Alex Smith getting hurt).

beach tribe 03-31-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10530798)
Nope. Never said that. Go read what I said. You are now expecting only HALF of what you originally said, so if you keep lowering your expectations, we'll soon agree...;)

I haven't lowered anything.

I made it very clear that I knew that all things would not happen, but that some of them would. I have not lowered anything at all.

TEX 03-31-2014 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530829)
I haven't lowered anything.

I made it very clear that I knew that all things would not happen, but that some of them would. I have not lowered anything at all.

Oh, ok. I thought you were lowering expectations. We'll just have to see what happens...

Dante84 03-31-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10530686)
I expect Fisher to make huge strides over an injury filled Rookie season.
I think we may take a step back at G, which is the least important position in football.

Outside of that, we are talking about..what. Replacing McCluster? How will ever manage to do that?
I See Bowe having a Monster year. Hell, AJ Jenkins is as good as McCluster.

We are going to get Something out of either, Kelce, or Cummings. Might not be much, but I'll bet it's more that K. Lewis provided.

The whole approach seems to be trusting in the drafted players.
I think Kush is going to contribute, maybe even allowing Hudson to move to G where I think he can really help out.

Houston is going to have a MONSTER season

I believe Smith will have a career season.

I think Catapano can contribute
I think we will get some help through the draft.

I KNOW that all of these things will not work out, but I believe some of them will.

Enough to, yes, improve the team.

Basically all the new and 2nd year players will have to fall flat on their faces for us to not have any chance at improving.

If half of the possible positive things that could happen , do, we will be improved.
If Dorsey has failed on on all those picks, and fails again this season, then we will in fact have the shit season so many people are predicting.
I'm just not ready to throw in the towel on two seasons worth of drafting yet.
Again, I know a lot of this stuff won't happen, but some of it will, and when it does, along with the continued development of our existing players we will be an improved football team.

Thats really not huge or unrealistic expectations.

I just put all of these topics to a vote in a new thread.

RealSNR 03-31-2014 04:27 PM

Looks a little scrawny to me

http://www.universaluclick.com/uu_si...jpg?1382108328

RealSNR 03-31-2014 04:28 PM

Seriously, guys. ****. I'm the first one to make the Foxtrot joke?

None of you know funny. Not one of you.

keg in kc 03-31-2014 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10530805)
The only clear and quantifiable improvement from last year would be to win a playoff game.

I think even the biggest Dorsey/Reid fans might have a hard time saying that they EXPECT that to happen.

That being said, I really don't see this team going in the tank. They're not bad enough for that to happen barring some freak accident (like Alex Smith getting hurt).

I don't think they go in the tank, but I also don't think they're anywhere as close to ready as last year's record might otherwise indicate. It's not been at all unusual the last decade or so to see a flukey season at the start a rebuild and then a minor step back the following year, and I would not be surprised if KC were the latest team to do that.

milkman 03-31-2014 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bricks (Post 10530534)
I assure you, the D won't improve.

Let's not forget that they kept Bob Sutton. That is all we need to know about the defense as to why it'll be shit.

I don't give a shit about Sutton, one way or another, but I've asked this before.

When you are limited by a crap safety, an ILB who can't cover, an OLB who, while outstanding rushing the passer, is a liability in coverage, a corner who struggles in zone, and 2 DEs who are only slightly better at rushing the passer than I am, just exactly what kind of adjustments would you have him make?

The only real indefensible decision he made was failing to utilize the bench more.

milkman 03-31-2014 04:38 PM

As for Fox, I really liked that kid coming out of Miami.

TribalElder 03-31-2014 04:40 PM

Bedshit

The Franchise 03-31-2014 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10530925)
Seriously, guys. ****. I'm the first one to make the Foxtrot joke?

None of you know funny. Not one of you.

Didn't even think about it until you mentioned it. Nice catch though.

Iconic 03-31-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10530940)
I don't give a shit about Sutton, one way or another, but I've asked this before.

When you are limited by a crap safety, an ILB who can't cover, an OLB who, while outstanding rushing the passer, is a liability in coverage, a corner who struggles in zone, and 2 DEs who are only slightly better at rushing the passer than I am, just exactly what kind of adjustments would you have him make?

The only real indefensible decision he made was failing to utilize the bench more.

... and none of those limitations have been improved. They've just been replaced by question marks.

Strongside 03-31-2014 04:51 PM

I hear DeSean Jackson is a free agent gais.

TribalElder 03-31-2014 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10530975)
I hear DeSean Jackson is a free agent gais.

He is way too mafioso


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