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MTG#10 03-03-2014 03:03 PM

Question about student lou-ans
 
My girl is getting her tax refund intercepted because she defaulted on her student loans from 3 years ago. I get that, she should have paid it. But the letter she received lists what she owes as follows:

Principal: $6954.39

Interest: $957.52

Penalty: $0

Fees and Cost: $1925.76

Total: $9837.67

I understand the interest, but how do they come up with the "fees and cost" @ almost 2 G's? It doesn't say what they're for. She's tried calling them twice to get a detailed assessment of how they came up with that number but they still haven't sent anything after three weeks. Something else strange is where it is supposed to show her account number is blank. Does this sound fishy to anyone else or is this completely normal?

MTG#10 03-03-2014 03:05 PM

If it makes a difference her lender is "Direct Loans" through the US Department of Education.

HoneyBadger 03-03-2014 03:05 PM

Sounds like she's screwed.

El Jefe 03-03-2014 03:05 PM

The type of loan would be useful in determine a proper response.

The Franchise 03-03-2014 03:06 PM

Is it covering everything that she owes?

All you have to do is either call the IRS or Direct Loans and see if it's been paid off. They aren't going to tell you what the "fees" are for. Consider it a lesson learned and move on.

El Jefe 03-03-2014 03:07 PM

^3 posts all at the same time, that's funny. I have never had issues with Direct Loans. My wife has a loan that we owe ~9k on, and I have never had an issue with her account number not being on it. Then again, we are paid ahead like 3 years (we are just trying to get it done as quickly as possible).

KC native 03-03-2014 03:09 PM

I don't know what the default fees are for direct government loans, but I know my private loans have a default fee of 50% of the balance at the time of default.

She might be able to speak to the lender and get the fee reduced if she agrees to a payment plan and sticks with it.

MTG#10 03-03-2014 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10464420)
Is it covering everything that she owes?

All you have to do is either call the IRS or Direct Loans and see if it's been paid off. They aren't going to tell you what the "fees" are for. Consider it a lesson learned and move on.

No her tax return is only enough to cover about half of it. So they can just come up with any amount they want, call it "fees", and you have to pay it? Sounds like a scam to me. How can anyone charge you almost $2000 in "fees" and not have to tell you what they're for?

The Franchise 03-03-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464443)
No her tax return is only enough to cover about half of it. So they can just come up with any amount they want, call it "fees", and you have to pay it? Sounds like a scam to me. How can anyone charge you almost $2000 in "fees" and not have to tell you what they're for?

She defaulted. They could put that $2000 into "penalties" and you wouldn't be able to say shit.

KCUnited 03-03-2014 03:16 PM

I'm guessing the fees are for having to track down their money.

Eleazar 03-03-2014 03:16 PM

Stafford loans all have a fee assessed on them. For loans prior to 2007 this was 3%.

Since she didn't bother paying back her loan and is now in default, it all becomes payable immediately including interest, late fees, penalties, and whatever fees they want to assess related to the collections process, if it's gone to collections.

She could have 15% of her wages garnished or other legal issues if the process drags on long enough.

There's no reason to default on them because you can call up the servicer and ask for a forebearance or a deferment anytime you want to, and even if you cocked that up, you can call and ask about loan rehabilitation where you agree to a repayment plan and they bring you out of default.

MTG#10 03-03-2014 03:16 PM

Crazy. Ive never missed or even been late on a loan or any other bill in my life so this is all new to me.

The Franchise 03-03-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464460)
Crazy. Ive never missed or even been late on a loan or any other bill in my life so this is all new to me.

Student loans are the absolute worst loan to default on. The government will take all necessary steps to get their money back....and they WILL NOT go away.

Pablo 03-03-2014 03:22 PM

She's ****ed. If you default on a student loan, you're pretty much going to pay whatever they are asking you to. It's not the sort of debt that goes away or she's going to be able to "fight" in any capacity.

Listen to Pest, he knows what's up.

Eleazar 03-03-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10464466)
Student loans are the absolute worst loan to default on. The government will take all necessary steps to get their money back....and they WILL NOT go away.

Maybe... defaulting on a credit card debt might be worse, because they'll sell it to a scum sucking vermin debt buyer who will harass and sue you.

loochy 03-03-2014 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464443)
No her tax return is only enough to cover about half of it. So they can just come up with any amount they want, call it "fees", and you have to pay it? Sounds like a scam to me. How can anyone charge you almost $2000 in "fees" and not have to tell you what they're for?

Where is the paperwork she signed when she gladly accepted that money that she didn't intend to pay back.

I'll bet you anything that the paperwork will outline what fees are required.

Eleazar 03-03-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464460)
Crazy. Ive never missed or even been late on a loan or any other bill in my life so this is all new to me.

It sucks to have turned $7,000 into $10,000 by not making minimum payments. That's a pretty high interest rate. But instead of arguing with them, which will get her nowhere, have her call and ask what her options are. The government is going to get their pound of flesh out of her. It's not going to go away.

MTG#10 03-03-2014 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10464485)
Where is the paperwork she signed when she gladly accepted that money that she didn't intend to pay back.

I'll bet you anything that the paperwork will outline what fees are required.

Probably. She's ****ed. I don't understand how people can be so stupid. She is horrible with $, drives me ****ing crazy. :banghead:

Eleazar 03-03-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464491)
Probably. She's ****ed. I don't understand how people can be so stupid. She is horrible with $, drives me ****ing crazy. :banghead:

Red flag

The Franchise 03-03-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10464480)
Maybe... defaulting on a credit card debt might be worse, because they'll sell it to a scum sucking vermin debt buyer who will harass and sue you.

Credit card debt will eventually go away. Yeah you'll be harassed by phone calls from collectors. The government won't go away....they'll just start garnishing everything you have until they get theirs.

Jimmya 03-03-2014 03:31 PM

Call them..... They will work with you all.

Eleazar 03-03-2014 03:35 PM

Also, you can't discharge student loan debt in bankruptcy anymore. They will just keep coming. If she gets a judgment against her they could dip into her bank accounts too. It's probably all avoidable if you just talk to them and work something out.

Skyy God 03-03-2014 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464491)
Probably. She's ****ed. I don't understand how people can be so stupid. She is horrible with $, drives me ****ing crazy. :banghead:

Lock her down..... y'all seem like a solid match.

loochy 03-03-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464491)
Probably. She's ****ed. I don't understand how people can be so stupid. She is horrible with $, drives me ****ing crazy. :banghead:

Hey, at least it's not your money...


...yet


:D

jspchief 03-03-2014 04:25 PM

Were you going to use that money for your future mother-in-law's smoking closet?

HonestChieffan 03-03-2014 04:47 PM

**** her. She may learn a lesson. Cry to somebody who gives a shit.

cosmo20002 03-03-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464409)
I understand the interest, but how do they come up with the "fees and cost" @ almost 2 G's? It doesn't say what they're for. She's tried calling them twice to get a detailed assessment of how they came up with that number but they still haven't sent anything after three weeks. Something else strange is where it is supposed to show her account number is blank. Does this sound fishy to anyone else or is this completely normal?

I have no idea, but I'm going to say for sure it's Obama.

cosmo20002 03-03-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464491)
Probably. She's ****ed. I don't understand how people can be so stupid. She is horrible with $, drives me ****ing crazy. :banghead:

I would get out of this relationship now.
Unless that's her in your avatar. Then, I might see how this whole loan thing plays out for a while.

loochy 03-03-2014 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10464766)
I have no idea, but I'm going to say for sure it's Obama.

effing obama

MTG#10 03-03-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10464773)
I would get out of this relationship now.
Unless that's her in your avatar. Then, I might see how this whole loan thing plays out for a while.

Its not, but she's close. Ive posted pics of her before.

MTG#10 03-03-2014 05:55 PM

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TLO 03-03-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464827)

:homer:

Valiant 03-03-2014 06:10 PM

Have her call. Negotiate lower fee amount. Tell them they can use the tax check and set up payment plan for future.

LoneWolf 03-03-2014 06:14 PM

I take it her degree isn't in finance?

rhinson1380 03-03-2014 07:00 PM

If it's gotten to the point that they are garnishing wages, I'm pretty sure that $2k is legal fees.

My wife had a loan through Direct Loans before, but the servicer was Educap. I have one now and it's FedLoan Servicing. Find out who the actual servicer is. It is possible that it is Direct Loans.

We defaulted on her loan back in the day. It went to court and all that had to be done before they could start garnishing anything. I'm betting that's where a lot of the fees come from.

MTG#10 03-03-2014 07:06 PM

Her wages were never garnished, they're just taking her tax return. She said she'd call but the way she procrastinates it probably wont happen until they tack on another couple grand. :shake:

R8RFAN 03-03-2014 07:16 PM

Those fees are probably where they have handed or sold the bad debt to a collection agency

tk13 03-03-2014 08:04 PM

I'd betcha those fees are at least partially, if not completely because they hired a collection agency to bust some heads. You are fighting an impossible fight here.

KCUnited 03-03-2014 08:50 PM

This is like Chiefs vs Colts at this point, just have her call.

Sassy Squatch 03-03-2014 08:53 PM

Been defaulted for 3 years?

PunkinDrublic 03-03-2014 10:10 PM

That's a lot of money for beauty school.

Jimmya 03-03-2014 10:14 PM

Do any parents not pay for kids college any more?

KChiefs1 03-03-2014 11:00 PM

Student loans are going to get paid.

Phobia 03-03-2014 11:10 PM

You should take her to Chuck E. Cheese and see if she can find some other boyfriend so you no longer have to worry about it.

loochy 03-04-2014 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 10464827)

9 / 10 pooties

Would read again

J Diddy 03-04-2014 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 10465481)
You should take her to Chuck E. Cheese and see if she can find some other boyfriend so you no longer have to worry about it.

Dunno. She looked pretty hot.

Mosbonian 03-04-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10464497)
Credit card debt will eventually go away. Yeah you'll be harassed by phone calls from collectors. The government won't go away....they'll just start garnishing everything you have until they get theirs.

Statute of Limitations on collecting on consumer debt varies by state, but Government loans have no limitations. And debt collectors can't call you after the SOL goes by. If they do all you have to do is report them.

That's why it is top of the list to pay your student loans. The government never goes away.


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