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New World Order 02-06-2014 10:32 PM

Dorsey is a FAKE
 
Executive of the year? This is the same guy who had his choice of ANY player in college football and he drafted Eric Fisher. Your argument could be he traded for Alex Smith, but wasn't that Andy Reid's idea? Sean Smith, Marcus Cooper? Those pickups looked great for the first half of the year when we were playing quarterbacks like Jeff Tuel. Dunta Robinson looked like he had aids this year, another "big time FA signing." Travis Kelce, Nico Johnson, Sanders Commings, Eric Kush? I thought Dorsey was a gm who could find value at the top of the draft.

I have a bad feeling this year and next will resemble the 2010 and 2011 seasons. We do well and then the bottom drops out.

Red Dawg 02-06-2014 10:34 PM

Really? 9 win turn around and this? Pass judgement after year three.

Rain Man 02-06-2014 10:34 PM

He drafted Jamaal Charles and Tamba Hali, and picked up Justin Houston in the third. You can't deny that type of record.

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10418439)
He drafted Jamaal Charles and Tamba Hali, and picked up Justin Houston in the third. You can't deny that type of record.

Huh?

Direckshun 02-06-2014 10:36 PM

I think the Chiefs have a very tall task in front of them this offseason, but that doesn't mean Dorsey's a "fake."

RealSNR 02-06-2014 10:36 PM

Jeff Tuel actually exploited the secondary a bit when he was told to get the ball out as quickly as possible.

You probably meant to say that those pickups were great when we were playing QBs like Blaine Gabbert, Tony Romo, Michael Vick, and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

saphojunkie 02-06-2014 10:37 PM

Can't fix stupid.

Rain Man 02-06-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10418441)
Huh?

I bet there are some internet sites that can back me up.

J Diddy 02-06-2014 10:39 PM

I like shock value. I'm a tool.

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10418450)
I bet there are some internet sites that can back me up.

Dorsey didn't draft those guys.

notorious 02-06-2014 10:41 PM

RAGE

http://gifs.gifbin.com/062010/127737...orter-rage.gif

notorious 02-06-2014 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10418439)
He drafted Jamaal Charles and Tamba Hali, and picked up Justin Houston in the third. You can't deny that type of record.

Berry was the obvious pick, and he kind of lucked out on Flowers dropping as far as he did.

The Franchise 02-06-2014 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10418458)
Dorsey didn't draft those guys.

Trolololololo

J Diddy 02-06-2014 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10418458)
Dorsey didn't draft those guys.

You should call your mechanic and schedule a tune up on your sarcasm meter.

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10418465)
Trolololololo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull (Post 10418466)
You should call your mechanic and schedule a tune up on your sarcasm meter.

Ok. I'm with ya. I thought I lost my mind for a minute.

RunKC 02-06-2014 10:46 PM

There were a few times where Manning could have thrown deep and completed a few throws on the Seahawks last Sunday. Wanna know why that didn't happen? He got hit before he could make the throw.

We couldn't do that the 2nd half of the season..

Gonzo 02-06-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10418439)
He drafted Jamaal Charles and Tamba Hali, and picked up Justin Houston in the third. You can't deny that type of record.

Didn't Peterson draft those guys?

TimBone 02-06-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10418464)
Berry was the obvious pick, and he kind of lucked out on Flowers dropping as far as he did.

Letting Jared Allen walk and paying LJ may haunt him forever though.

Brock 02-06-2014 10:48 PM

Other than the near-meh alex smith move, pretty underwhelming beginning.

notorious 02-06-2014 10:48 PM

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TLO 02-06-2014 10:50 PM

Pussy riot.

cabletech94 02-06-2014 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 10418477)
Didn't Peterson draft those guys?

nah, adrian is a running back, braugh.......

New World Order 02-06-2014 10:56 PM

Not one productive draft pick this year and the guy had the first pick.

Ragged Robin 02-06-2014 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418495)
Not one productive draft pick this year and the guy had the first pick.

This. He brought in some OK guys in FA but nothing special. The draft was a complete wash. Reid was responsible for the turnaround, not Dorsey.

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418495)
Not one productive draft pick this year and the guy had the first pick.

Knile Davis wasn't a productive pick?

Was Luke Joeckel a better pick then Fisher? I don't think so.

Cephalic Trauma 02-06-2014 10:59 PM

You, sir, just earned a nomination for douche of the year.

Mav 02-06-2014 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418495)
Not one productive draft pick this year and the guy had the first pick.

Disagree on that one. Knile Davis proved as the year went on to be very much worth the value.

The rest honestly, is just fodder. Weak draft, with a front office group that really didn't know what they had here already, and took some developmental guys for the future. If you don't see more out of those guys this next season like Kelce, Eric Fisher, and Commings, then people might have a point.

But in Reality, when you are getting down to the 3-7th rounds of a draft, those are roster fillers on good teams.

And before someone goes, THEY WERE 2-14.

yes, They were 2-14, with a crap load of talent, that was held back by qbs that turned the ball over 37 times, and terrible coaching.

The Chiefs always were a talented team.

I would expect a much better influential draft this year.

The Bad Guy 02-06-2014 11:03 PM

You're a disgrace to the actual nWo.

New World Order 02-06-2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10418501)
Knile Davis wasn't a productive pick?

Was Luke Joeckel a better pick then Fisher? I don't think so.



I don't consider 242 rushing yards productive.

Great, so now we're comparing crap to crap.

The Bad Guy 02-06-2014 11:04 PM

We must judge this draft class strictly on 17 games. It's a must. What they do in year 2 is irrelevant when you want to be a gushing vagina.

Psyko Tek 02-06-2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10418458)
Dorsey didn't draft those guys.

WTF you doubt rainman

if he says so it is so

Mav 02-06-2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418509)
I don't consider 242 rushing yards productive.

Great, so now we're comparing crap to crap.

Well, when you have Jamaal Charles, you will have that.

He also showed well on special teams, and do you have any complaints about how he played in the playoff game?

The Bad Guy 02-06-2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418509)
I don't consider 242 rushing yards productive.

Great, so now we're comparing crap to crap.

Yes, because we can just look at a stat sheet and say Knile Davis was a wasted pick.

GTFO.

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418509)
I don't consider 242 rushing yards productive.

Great, so now we're comparing crap to crap.

A backup rookie rb that didn't see the ball but maybe once or twice a game? I think he was a steal.

Who would you have picked?

J Diddy 02-06-2014 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418509)
I don't consider 242 rushing yards productive.

Great, so now we're comparing crap to crap.



How many trimesters would it be if you were to abort yourself now?

The Bad Guy 02-06-2014 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull (Post 10418520)
How many trimesters would it be if you were to abort yourself now?

Hahaha.

Bwana 02-06-2014 11:20 PM

:spock:

New World Order 02-06-2014 11:22 PM

It's sad when the only positive draft pick we can think of is a backup RB who averaged 3.5 ypc and had 242 yards on the ground this year.

chiefzilla1501 02-06-2014 11:25 PM

Dorsey comes from the Ted Thompson tree. His game isn't about blue chip free agents so I think he was a little off his game. I still think his buying spree had a lot to do with Clark Hunt giving an ultimatum that the team win now.

He was excellent (and this is the part I care about a lot more) at the scrappy picks. I think Kush has potential to start. I think Cooper has tremendous room to grow. I think Nico Johnson and Sanders Commings are going to be decent picks, and we'll see on Kelce (way too soon to say what we have there). Sherman is a borderline all-pro fullback. We don't know what we have in Catapano, but I like that pick too.

In terms of depth, Knile Davis and Abdullah were decent pickups. Same with Demps and Jordan. And I'd say Rishaw Johnson and Rokevius Watkins played pretty solid against San Diego for a bunch of scrub backups, wouldn't you? I'd say that Ron Parker and Jaye Howard looked just fine in that game too, wouldn't you? Even Zombo isn't a bad player considering where we got him from.

I don't think he deserves executive of the year because his big pick-ups were pretty so-so, but to rip on a guy who pretty much built a backup team that could beat the Chargers... Pretty good.

Mav 02-06-2014 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418535)
It's sad when the only positive draft pick we can think of is a backup RB who averaged 3.5 ypc and had 242 yards on the ground this year.

Its only sad if you don't remember that the team was already loaded with talent. It also had a +9 record over the season before, didn't have a second rounder, because that was your qb, and the only other guy than Fisher, who really would of contributed much anyway, was Kelce, and he was hurt. Not exactly on Dorsey that Kelce got hurt.

Want to blame him for Eric Fisher? Sure, fine, I think all of Chiefs planet, and Chiefs fans would go with that.

But, I reality, the second round pick, was Alex Smith, and he played really well.

So Fisher-Meh
Alex Smith- far out performed a second round pick
Knile Davis- Showed great burst, and a knack for special teams
Travis Kelce- Injured.

Kush-drafted as depth
Sanders Commings- hurt

I mean, its not outstanding, but really, its nit picking to call out a front office with their first draft class.

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418535)
It's sad when the only positive draft pick we can think of is a backup RB who averaged 3.5 ypc and had 242 yards on the ground this year.

It's really sad that we already had the best rb in the NFL and that's why Davis saw limited playing time. What else are you sad about?

New World Order 02-06-2014 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10418543)
It's really sad that we already had the best rb in the NFL and that's why Davis saw limited playing time. What else are you sad about?


The FA we signed in the offseason

chiefzilla1501 02-06-2014 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418545)
The FA we signed in the offseason

What free agents did we sign that are going to destroy our cap or are locked in for 5 years? The only one really is Bowe.

HolyHat 02-06-2014 11:35 PM

You guys ever try posting after giving yourself a stranger?

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WayneBowe (Post 10418548)
You guys ever try posting after giving yourself a stranger?

You ever given a stranger a stranger?

HolyHat 02-06-2014 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npayne1978 (Post 10418552)
You ever given a stranger a stranger?

Once, but it was more frostbite than anything. Hard to stay warm under those bridges.

RunKC 02-06-2014 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10418510)
We must judge this draft class strictly on 17 games. It's a must. What they do in year 2 is irrelevant when you want to be a gushing vagina.

No freaking joke.

Kelce and Commings didn't even get a chance this year. And we know from Dorsey's interview that Fisher is going to be putting on 15 lbs and hitting the weight room.

These are the same clowns who said Poe was a terrible draft pick this time last season.

Big Poppa Payne 02-06-2014 11:52 PM

Dorsey Mantooth is a saint!!

Prison Bitch 02-07-2014 12:10 AM

Dorsey had the best year for any GM not to win a playoff game. Supposedly.

JakeLV 02-07-2014 12:10 AM

I'm pretty blown away the Smith trade is being put in thw in column.

HolyHat 02-07-2014 12:27 AM

http://lifecheating.com/wp-content/u...ooCQAEqEcX.jpg

RealSNR 02-07-2014 12:42 AM

I'm sorry, but I just don't see Kelce doing shit in the league. IF he comes back 100% healthy and IF he is making the most of his offseason time to improve, there's still the issue of staying healthy and taking control as the legitimate starting TE that the team has been lacking.

I'll be delighted if we draft Ebron or Amaro. If Kelce wants to join the party as a great player, then we just acquired a ****ing lethal double TE set. If he's shit and cum like he appears to be, then we at least still fixed the TE spot.

Dayze 02-07-2014 12:42 AM

I'll never forgive him for drafting Blackledge

Dayze 02-07-2014 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WayneBowe (Post 10418598)

Lmao

salame 02-07-2014 12:45 AM

this thread makes me

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...ry-man-001.jpg

Dayze 02-07-2014 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WayneBowe (Post 10418598)

:hmmm:

HolyHat 02-07-2014 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10418608)
I'll never forgive him for drafting Blackledge

Now you're just being racist.

BWillie 02-07-2014 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418435)
Executive of the year? This is the same guy who had his choice of ANY player in college football and he drafted Eric Fisher. Your argument could be he traded for Alex Smith, but wasn't that Andy Reid's idea? Sean Smith, Marcus Cooper? Those pickups looked great for the first half of the year when we were playing quarterbacks like Jeff Tuel. Dunta Robinson looked like he had aids this year, another "big time FA signing." Travis Kelce, Nico Johnson, Sanders Commings, Eric Kush? I thought Dorsey was a gm who could find value at the top of the draft.

I have a bad feeling this year and next will resemble the 2010 and 2011 seasons. We do well and then the bottom drops out.

Actually I agree. He didn't really do anything. Reid wanted Smith. Marcus Cooper fell into his lap, complete luckballed on that one. Time will tell, but his draft didn't look amazing. Honestly, lots of guys Pioli drafted were the ones who performed for us.

POND_OF_RED 02-07-2014 01:44 AM

Schwartz, Sherman, Devito, and Abdullah were all vital parts to our success this year.

TimBone 02-07-2014 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10418648)
Actually I agree. He didn't really do anything. Reid wanted Smith. Marcus Cooper fell into his lap, complete luckballed on that one. Time will tell, but his draft didn't look amazing. Honestly, lots of guys Pioli drafted were the ones who performed for us.

How exactly did Marcus Cooper fall into his lap?

crazycoffey 02-07-2014 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10418606)
I'm sorry, but I just don't see Kelce doing shit in the league. IF he comes back 100% healthy and IF he is making the most of his offseason time to improve, there's still the issue of staying healthy and taking control as the legitimate starting TE that the team has been lacking.

I'll be delighted if we draft Ebron or Amaro. If Kelce wants to join the party as a great player, then we just acquired a ****ing lethal double TE set. If he's shit and cum like he appears to be, then we at least still fixed the TE spot.

Trollollol?

I don't see how anyone can say he won't do shit in this league.

New World Order 02-07-2014 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey (Post 10418686)
Trollollol?

I don't see how anyone can say he won't do shit in this league.



What's he done so far?

crazycoffey 02-07-2014 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 10418698)
What's he done so far?

SNR? Been a long time contributer to his board, provided takes agreeable and disagree-able to many on many topics, provided humor (once or twice) and spirited debate (maybe once). So the real question is, "what have you done, NWO "

Jimmya 02-07-2014 05:49 AM

Still to early to tell on Dorsey.

Simply Red 02-07-2014 06:30 AM

I agree with Jimmy. Just a little early.

Eleazar 02-07-2014 06:58 AM

A lot of people around here are going to be surprised when the #1 overall pick turns out to be a good LT, which is odd.

J Diddy 02-07-2014 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10418608)
I'll never forgive him for drafting Blackledge

Once you go Blackledge

You never go back from the ledge

BigMeatballDave 02-07-2014 07:49 AM

JFC Its 1 ****ing year. Change your tampon.

BigMeatballDave 02-07-2014 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Pull (Post 10418740)
Once you go Blackledge

You never go back from the ledge

LMAO

htismaqe 02-07-2014 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10418724)
A lot of people around here are going to be surprised when the #1 overall pick turns out to be a good LT, which is odd.

If he turns out to be good, I'll admit I'm wrong.

But at this point, what do you REALLY have to base that on other than hope?

The guy didn't play well and couldn't stay on the field to boot. Horrible pick.

htismaqe 02-07-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10418648)
Actually I agree. He didn't really do anything. Reid wanted Smith. Marcus Cooper fell into his lap, complete luckballed on that one. Time will tell, but his draft didn't look amazing. Honestly, lots of guys Pioli drafted were the ones who performed for us.

This for the most part.

Andy Reid deserved COY far more than Dorsey deserved an award.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-07-2014 08:00 AM

Dorsey > King Carl > Scooter

Suck it.

htismaqe 02-07-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10418767)
Dorsey > King Carl > Scooter

Suck it.

It really goes without saying but...

Better than "Bad" does not equal "Good".

BigMeatballDave 02-07-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10418802)
It really goes without saying but...

Better than "Bad" does not equal "Good".

We really have no idea what Dorsey is at this point.

htismaqe 02-07-2014 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10418804)
We really have no idea what Dorsey is at this point.

True. It's year 1. To anoint him or damn him at this point is foolish.

BandwagonChiefsFan 02-07-2014 08:39 AM

I don't like the job hes done at Greenbay. They look even less talented than us (outside of Rodgers).

BigMeatballDave 02-07-2014 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BandwagonChiefsFan (Post 10418812)
I don't like the job hes done at Greenbay. They look even less talented than us (outside of Rodgers).

How much of that is he even responsible for?

I don't really know what he did with the Packers.

Messier 02-07-2014 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BandwagonChiefsFan (Post 10418812)
I don't like the job hes done at Greenbay. They look even less talented than us (outside of Rodgers).

Their o line stinks, other than that they have talent all over the place.

Stalker 02-07-2014 08:46 AM

@ OP, have a dose of AIDS with an Ebola twist on the house

htismaqe 02-07-2014 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messier (Post 10418822)
Their o line stinks, other than that they have talent all over the place.

Doesn't really give you a warm fuzzy considering that their very first pick was o-line.


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