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Nzoner 01-04-2014 09:13 PM

Not just done with KC,done with the NFL
 
Yet another thread and I even went as far tonight that I gave away a very nice Chiefs coat and chiefs stocking cap at the party I was at.Also quit my fantasy football league and am renouncing the NFL as a whole.

Pro football is nothing more than pro wrestling only the stage is 50,000 times larger and the NFL just might get their Luck/Manning rematch and maybe even their Manning/Brady rematch.I ****ing hate to think this shit is rigged but at 51 I've seen much to much over the years and am done being made a fool of.

Oh and lastly this years pro bowl will be a fantasy draft,really,wake the **** up people we're watching another form of Hollywood where some of the actors are paid millions and some are just bit players.

Titty Meat 01-04-2014 09:14 PM

The reason why you see these rematches is because the NFL is a good ol boys club ran by morons.

Rasputin 01-04-2014 09:14 PM

And your even one of the good ones around here. Shit.

Reaper16 01-04-2014 09:14 PM

So Kendrick Lewis was paid extra by the league to play the way he has all season? That's a good gig.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-04-2014 09:14 PM

I can't disagree after watching that game

notorious 01-04-2014 09:14 PM

I told my wife the same thing when I was still in zombie mode.


The following days will determine my course of action. I need to let the emotion wear off first before making the right decision.

Captain Obvious 01-04-2014 09:15 PM

See you in August!!!

SAUTO 01-04-2014 09:16 PM

**** that guys.

take a ****ing break and get back on it

dirk digler 01-04-2014 09:16 PM

I honestly don't get the NFL is rigged shit that people have been saying alot lately. There was nothing in this game that could be considered rigged. The Chiefs just choked.

notorious 01-04-2014 09:18 PM

I don't think it's rigged, but I honestly told my wife I might give up the NFL.


It gives me far more pain then pleasure.

Bewbies 01-04-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10342522)
I honestly don't get the NFL is rigged shit that people have been saying alot lately. There was nothing in this game that could be considered rigged. The Chiefs just choked.

Yeah, I don't get the rigged thing, but I do hate how they've made the rules impossible to see a defensive battle.

TribalElder 01-04-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 10342505)
See you in August!!!

LMAO :LOL:

Rain Man 01-04-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10342492)
So Kendrick Lewis was paid extra by the league to play the way he has all season? That's a good gig.

I think he's the highest-paid player in the league now.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2014 09:18 PM

You'll be back.

Redcoats58 01-04-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10342492)
So Kendrick Lewis was paid extra by the league to play the way he has all season? That's a good gig.

Oscar worthy performance.

Bearcat 01-04-2014 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 10342505)
See you in August!!!

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mlyonsd 01-04-2014 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10342522)
I honestly don't get the NFL is rigged shit that people have been saying alot lately. There was nothing in this game that could be considered rigged. The Chiefs just choked.

Yeah I'm not sure how letting wide open WR's run rampant equates to being rigged. Indy won. We lost.

Papi 01-04-2014 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10342522)
I honestly don't get the NFL is rigged shit that people have been saying alot lately. There was nothing in this game that could be considered rigged. The Chiefs just choked.

In this case, this.

kcpasco 01-04-2014 09:20 PM

The refs were fair. The Chiefs just had the 2nd biggest collapse in playoff history.

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 09:20 PM

Well, bye.



NFL is rigged.

/delusional losers

notorious 01-04-2014 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10342556)
The refs were fair. The Chiefs just had the 2nd biggest collapse in playoff history.

Yep.

siberian khatru 01-04-2014 09:21 PM

The NFL doesn't have to rig anything for this franchise to **** itself time and time again.

DeezNutz 01-04-2014 09:23 PM

It's not rigged; the Chiefs have just been a shit organization for a very long time.

Admitting the latter is harder than saying shit like, "We're cursed." No, we're not cursed; we're shitty.

Chronic 01-04-2014 09:23 PM

Adam Schefter
Chiefs now have lost 8 straight playoff games, breaking record they shared with Lions for longest postseason losing streak in NFL history.

Red Dawg 01-04-2014 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10342539)
You'll be back.

We all will.

mlyonsd 01-04-2014 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 10342574)
The NFL doesn't have to rig anything for this franchise to **** itself time and time again.

I thought you were gone. :p Trust me, you're still here.

Three7s 01-04-2014 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 10342592)
Adam Schefter
Chiefs now have lost 8 straight playoff games, breaking record they shared with Lions for longest postseason losing streak in NFL history.

Sweet, made history in two different negative aspects tonight.

lewdog 01-04-2014 09:25 PM

It isn't rigged. We just aren't ever very good.

mlyonsd 01-04-2014 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10342560)
Well, bye.



NFL is rigged.

/delusional losers

Yup.

dirk digler 01-04-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 10342534)
Yeah, I don't get the rigged thing, but I do hate how they've made the rules impossible to see a defensive battle.

I don't disagree. I don't see the NFL making any changes to help defenses any time soon though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 10342549)
Yeah I'm not sure how letting wide open WR's run rampant equates to being rigged. Indy won. We lost.

Yep.

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10342522)
I honestly don't get the NFL is rigged shit that people have been saying alot lately. There was nothing in this game that could be considered rigged. The Chiefs just choked.

it's definitely rigged - the NFL basically admitted as much to the Supreme Court in 2010.

it's officially regarded by the courts and gaming commision as Sports entertainment - same as pro wrestling.

check out The Fix Is In.

13and3 01-04-2014 09:26 PM

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If Brady, Manning, Luck, Rodgers, or Brees get their head banged to the ground slightly like Charles did and then look fine 3 minutes later, I guarantee the nfl "independent" doctor doesn't rule them out for the rest of game. Chiefs have lost every game in the playoffs for the last 20 years since they had Joe Montana, another superstar quarterback. You guys are the mindless masses if you are brainwashed into thinking this game isn't at least slightly fixed.

siberian khatru 01-04-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 10342600)
I thought you were gone. :p Trust me, you're still here.

Didn't say I was leaving CP. You ain't getting rid of me that easy.

Iowanian 01-04-2014 09:27 PM

The Chiefs aren't just the bad girlfriend who cheats on you.

Tonight they were the bad girlfriend who made us watch while they did it.
the second half, I felt like I was sitting on a plastic sofa looking into a camera.

That said, in the big picture, this shouldn't get you so worked up.
I'm terribly disappointed, it's not the worst thing in my day.

crossbow 01-04-2014 09:28 PM

I don't like the new format and rules. The team that "scores the last 50 wins" is bullshit. A lot of it is from the rules but also these QBs are breed from pro football players and these guys have been tossing balls since they were 5 years old. You just can't defend them when the the ball is out of their hands in 2.2 seconds. Nobody can get into a backfield that fast. The first 9 teams the Chiefs faced didn't have guys that could do that. The last ones did and we couldn't get to them. We better get some receivers and improve our corners if we want to win.

LiveSteam 01-04-2014 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crossbow (Post 10342655)
I don't like the new format and rules. The team that "scores the last 50 wins" is bullshit. A lot of it is from the rules but also these QBs are breed from pro football players and these guys have been tossing balls since they were 5 years old. You just can't defend them when the the ball is out of their hands in 2.2 seconds. Nobody can get into a backfield that fast. The first 9 teams the Chiefs faced didn't have guys that could do that. The last ones did and we couldn't get to them. We better get some receivers and improve our corners if we want to win.

this

Iowanian 01-04-2014 09:31 PM

I agree with that, but it's also a professional game with professional coaches.

I don't recall seeing many adjustments. This team hasn't been able to defend the slant since the first Denver Game. Manning showed the league the blueprint and they've make a fantasy league champion every week since.

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10342624)
it's definitely rigged - the NFL basically admitted as much to the Supreme Court in 2010.

it's officially regarded by the courts and gaming commision as Sports entertainment - same as pro wrestling.

check out The Fix Is In.

Basically admitted = Didn't say anything like that whatsoever

Officially regarded by the courts and "gaming commission"--WTF?

Dumbest post of the night. Even dumber than SpecialEd.

Captain Obvious 01-04-2014 09:32 PM

I'm just as pissed as anybody else, but there is a ton of ovary acting on this board.

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10342691)
Basically admitted = Didn't say anything like that whatsoever

Officially regarded by the courts and "gaming commission"--WTF?

Dumbest post of the night. Even dumber than SpecialEd.

http://thefixisin.net/legal.html

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10342691)
Basically admitted = Didn't say anything like that whatsoever.

Quote:

Because there is no law outside of the loose interpretation of fraud from preventing a league from fixing its own games, Afran’s conclusion is correct. One cannot fix a sporting event for gambling purposes; that is illegal. And one cannot fix an intellectual contest for entertainment purposes; that was made illegal after the quiz show scandal of the 1950s.

But fix a sporting event for entertainment purposes? Completely legal.

What’s worse, the lawyer representing the NFL, Shepard Goldfein, actually argued in court that “fans likely would buy tickets even if they knew the Patriots were stealing signals.” In other words, the NFL realizes that much like pro wrestling, even if fans knew the football was rigged, they still pay their money to see it.

In March 2011, the Supreme Court refused to hear Mayer's appeal thereby affirming the lower court's findings.

:hmmm:

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10342726)

garbage in, garbage out

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10342754)
:hmmm:

Somebody wrote something. They wrote something false. Fools believe it.

Sure-Oz 01-04-2014 09:41 PM

Everyone is quitting, wonderful

crossbow 01-04-2014 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 10342683)
I agree with that, but it's also a professional game with professional coaches.

I don't recall seeing many adjustments. This team hasn't been able to defend the slant since the first Denver Game. Manning showed the league the blueprint and they've make a fantasy league champion every week since.

Reid is an offensive coach, doesn't he approach Sutten and tell him what can be done to beat his defenses so they can plan to make those changes in a game? Just wondering if that happens or if I am hoping.

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10342768)
Somebody wrote something. They wrote something false. Fools believe it.

Ok, so you don't believe court transcripts??

ok...

I don't know who put sand in your vagina, but goddamn it Sally, I ain't talking shit on your grandma - I'm simply pointing out the 'circumstantial' evidence that points to the NFL being rigged.

Now pull your panties out of your sandy, itchy crotchal region.

They're all wadded up.

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10342835)
Ok, so you don't believe court transcripts??

ok...

I don't know who put sand in your vagina, but goddamn it Sally, I ain't talking shit on your grandma - I'm simply pointing out the 'circumstantial' evidence that points to the NFL being rigged.

Now pull your panties out of your sandy, itchy crotchal region.

They're all wadded up.

No, you haven't . You pointed out some idiot's incorrect explanation.

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10342860)
No, you haven't . You pointed out some idiot's incorrect explanation.

click on the link and read the page, genius. I'm not gonna cut and paste the whole ****ing article. If you want to read it and have a discussion, cool. If you want to be an internet bully and 'debunk bullshit' and push your internet persona, then I'll leave you to such juvenile practices. Read the page and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say : the shit is ****ing rigged.

mlyonsd 01-04-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 10342788)
Everyone is quitting, wonderful

By God I'm quitting. Until tomorrow. Ok, maybe the last 15 minutes.

Seriously once you've bought into a mythical thing like a sports team you don't quit it, good or bad.

HMc 01-04-2014 09:54 PM

One team cheating (patriots stealing signals) is not the same as the league being "rigged".

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10342881)
click on the link and read the page, genius. I'm not gonna cut and paste the whole ****ing article. If you want to read it and have a discussion, cool. If you want to be an internet bully and 'debunk bullshit' and push your internet persona, then I'll leave you to such juvenile practices. Read the page and you'll see what I'm talking about when I say : the shit is ****ing rigged.

I did read it. That's how I know it's garbage. Make some incorrect assertions, and then base a conclusion on those incorrect assertions. Garbage in, garbage out.

chief52 01-04-2014 10:02 PM

Say it ain't so, Joe...

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMc (Post 10342901)
One team cheating (patriots stealing signals) is not the same as the league being "rigged".

And he claims the NFL has legal "permission" to fix the games. It's just complete nonsense.

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 10:09 PM

The nfl manipulates its games through rule changes and through the officials. I don't know what to tell if you don't notice it...but I do, and so do others.

the game today proved it - Indianapolis' defender had his ass on the sideline when he secured possession of the ball; the NFL wanted Luck and the Colts back in the game. And the refs totally assisted. they blow too many calls for it not to be part of the show.

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 10:11 PM

http://thefixisin.net/nfl2013.html

C3HIEF3S 01-04-2014 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10342612)
It isn't rigged. We just aren't ever very good.

Now we're getting somewhere.

Simplicity 01-04-2014 10:14 PM

If it is Manning/Luck or Manning/Brady... Ya'll know shit's rigged.

GloucesterChief 01-04-2014 10:16 PM

If I was the NFL and had the power to rig games, there is no way that any team would go 20 years without a playoff win. It is just bad business. You want as large a fan base as possible and hope grows a fan base.

You have favorites of course and might let one of the non-favorites win a super bowl now and then but you don't actively try and destroy a fan base. Each team will always have die hards no matter what but die hards are small percentage of the overall fan base.

chief52 01-04-2014 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10342991)
The nfl manipulates its games through rule changes and through the officials. I don't know what to tell if you don't notice it...but I do, and so do others.

the game today proved it - Indianapolis' defender had his ass on the sideline when he secured possession of the ball; the NFL wanted Luck and the Colts back in the game. And the refs totally assisted. they blow too many calls for it not to be part of the show.

So you actually think that the refs get together with the league and decide the outcome ahead of time??? And this information never gets out??? I personally know an NFL official. Worked with him. This is such an absurd notion I can not believe I am even responding to it.

NO! The officials do not rig games!!!

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10343004)

:facepalm: The kook who writes this stuff is so sure the league is fixed for Peyton and the usual suspects that he put his own money down to bet on the Lions to win the Super Bowl. LMAO

kcxiv 01-04-2014 10:18 PM

I done this post season. I may watch the SuperBowl. Outside of that, ill watch movies or twiddle my thumbs.

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10343034)
If it is Manning/Luck or Manning/Brady... Ya'll know shit's rigged.

Yeah, because the teams with the best QBs rarely make it deep into the playoffs. And if they do, it's obviously because it is fixed. JFC...:facepalm:

Unless it is a Cassel-Pryor Super Bowl, it proves it is fixed.

Redcoats58 01-04-2014 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10343091)
Yeah, because the teams with the best QBs rarely make it deep into the playoffs. And if they do, it's obviously because it is fixed. JFC...:facepalm:

Unless it is a Cassel-Pryor Super Bowl, it proves it is fixed.

Why do you continue to fight this? You're not gonna change anyones mind.

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 10343058)
So you actually think that the refs get together with the league and decide the outcome ahead of time??? And this information never gets out??? I personally know an NFL official. Worked with him. This is such an absurd notion I can not believe I am even responding to it.

NO! The officials do not rig games!!!


Having argued this many times, it has been explained to me that the league has a desired outcome. They direct the refs to make this outcome happen. Refs make the calls accordingly.

rabblerouser 01-04-2014 10:25 PM

http://youtu.be/ijBx6Cb4aDc

Aries Walker 01-04-2014 10:26 PM

The Cubs still have fans. If you can't handle losing, even over and over and over, then yeah, following a professional sports team is not for you.

MVChiefFan 01-04-2014 10:28 PM

SWEET!!! Someone needs to sign me up! I can miss me some tackles with the best of 'em! And by the best of 'em, I mean Kendrick Lewis!

chief52 01-04-2014 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10343113)
Having argued this many times, it has been explained to me that the league has a desired outcome. They direct the refs to make this outcome happen. Refs make the calls accordingly.

Excuse me cosmo...I re-read and see that this is what " has been explained to you." I understand where you are coming from now. The post below was when I thought you were making that point. Sorry!


...and you actually believe that???

They do not need to fix anything in order make BILLIONS!

These officials are willing to do this for just the wage they receive??? Fix games but we are not going to give you anything for it. Does that even make a thread of sense to you? We are talking very reputable people here.

Saccopoo 01-04-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crossbow (Post 10342655)
I don't like the new format and rules. The team that "scores the last 50 wins" is bullshit. A lot of it is from the rules but also these QBs are breed from pro football players and these guys have been tossing balls since they were 5 years old. You just can't defend them when the the ball is out of their hands in 2.2 seconds. Nobody can get into a backfield that fast. The first 9 teams the Chiefs faced didn't have guys that could do that. The last ones did and we couldn't get to them. We better get some receivers and improve our corners if we want to win.

If you know you can't cover them by dropping seven/eight guys, then I'd straight up man the receivers and bring the house. I'd even take a couple of roughing the passer penalties to bloody up Luck's face a bit and make him think about dropping back to pass.

Sutton called this game as bad as one could be called.

If he hasn't cleaned out his office by tomorrow, I'm going to be a little miffed.

Just Passin' By 01-04-2014 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 10343034)
If it is Manning/Luck or Manning/Brady... Ya'll know shit's rigged.

So, if the top teams in the conference win, it's rigged?

durtyrute 01-04-2014 10:41 PM

There is no ****ing way that the defender had possession of the ball before he went out of bounds.

chief52 01-04-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 10343203)
There is no ****ing way that the defender had possession of the ball before he went out of bounds.

I do not believe he had possession. But once it was ruled that way there was no enough to over turn the call. It was an extremely close call. I have no trouble with the call whatsoever. Watch the replay...

LoneWolf 01-04-2014 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 10343203)
There is no ****ing way that the defender had possession of the ball before he went out of bounds.

I've watched that play and the slow motion replays at least a dozen times and to me it definitely looks like he secured the ball just before his backside touched the line. If he had been called out of bounds I don't think replay would have overturned it though. It is a really close call and IMO the refs got it right.

morphius 01-04-2014 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10343228)
I've watched that play and the slow motion replays at least a dozen times and to me it definitely looks like he secured the ball just before his backside touched the line. If he had been called out of bounds I don't think replay would have overturned it though. It is a really close call and IMO the refs got it right.

I agree, it was so close I wanted it to go the other way, but I think the call was right. I really didn't have a prob with the way the game was called. There should have probably been a 12 man on the field penalty against them with the new rules, but we made the FG.

millz 01-04-2014 10:51 PM

of course it's rigged, this is a cursed organization. just watch NFL networks top 10 snake bitten franchises and you'll see.

the intentional grounding call, the cyrus gray open td, the timeouts being used like nothing. i don't live in KC so i don't know, but it feels like something happened a long time ago within this franchise and were paying the karma for it now.

durtyrute 01-04-2014 10:51 PM

If that had been a receiver running a route and caught the ball and a split second later he was hit and the ball came loose they would say he didn't have possession. The defender bobbled it and for a split second had control before going out of bounds. A split second usually is not enough time for them to say someone established possession.

HMc 01-04-2014 10:52 PM

So the master plan to ensure that the colts advance was to allow the chiefs a 28 point lead, wait for a call that was too close to call 100 percent then make sure it went the way of the colts? That's it?!

I thought the video on the fumble recovery was inconclusive. That's evidently why the officials thought also.

cosmo20002 01-04-2014 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 10343124)

I noticed in another thread you mentioned a few players most to blame for the Chiefs playoff failures.

How do you blame any of the players if all this stuff is fixed?

philfree 01-04-2014 10:54 PM

Lamar beat the old NFL and because of that the Chiefs will never win it all again. Yeah there's enough old money left to keep paying for that.

GoChargers 01-04-2014 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10342522)
I honestly don't get the NFL is rigged shit that people have been saying alot lately. There was nothing in this game that could be considered rigged. The Chiefs just choked.

As a neutral viewer, I don't think this particular game was rigged, but there are plenty of games every year where the officiating is at least overtly biased towards one team or player.

However, this game did show the other major problem with the NFL today besides biased and bad officiating. Thanks to all the rule changes that favor offense, football just isn't football anymore. A playoff game should never have a final score of 45-44. That's just absurd. And shootouts like this aren't even that fun to watch because everyone knows they're merely a product of bogus rule changes, not a testament to each team's true skill level.


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