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DaFace 09-22-2013 08:07 PM

Chiefs are favored over Giants
 
Who the hell would have predicted that before the season started?

I do love the way this sport can completely surprise you every year. It just isn't as much fun when your team is the one that is way below your expectations.

TribalElder 09-22-2013 08:08 PM

I missed the other weeks totals

is this the first time we are favored this year?

keg in kc 09-22-2013 08:09 PM

Giants fans have to be hating life right now.

Simplicity 09-22-2013 08:09 PM

Giants, Niners, GB, freaking Miami... All crazy.

pr_capone 09-22-2013 08:10 PM

I believe KC will go 6-0 to start the season with the next three games being the Giants, Titans, and Raiders. The Texans are the first ones that have the talent to hang a loss on KC come week 7.

DaFace 09-22-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10009560)
I missed the other weeks totals

is this the first time we are favored this year?

We were favored over Jacksonville and Dallas both, I believe. Not vs. the Eagles.

TLO 09-22-2013 08:17 PM

What are we favored by?

Strongside 09-22-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 10009568)
I believe KC will go 6-0 to start the season with the next three games being the Giants, Titans, and Raiders. The Texans are the first ones that have the talent to hang a loss on KC come week 7.

They do have the talent to beat us, but haven't been good thus far. Plus that game is in KC. I think @ Buffalo will be tough, and so will @ Titans...I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves...but we could be 9-0 heading into the bye week to face off against Denver if we play our cards right.

Chiefs Pantalones 09-22-2013 08:20 PM

The Giants are gonna come in swinging. It's gonna be a war.

Mav 09-22-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10009598)
They do have the talent to beat us, but haven't been good thus far. Plus that game is in KC. I think @ Buffalo will be tough, and so will @ Titans...I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves...but we could be 9-0 heading into the bye week to face off against Denver if we play our cards right.

I don't think that Buffalo will be that big of a problem.....One thing that was showed today, EJ MANUEL does not handle pressure well at all. The Chiefs will be in his ass all day like Geno Smith bending clay over.

Mav 09-22-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10009609)
The Giants are gonna come in swinging. It's gonna be a war.

They have the Dline to make the offense miserable.

Gotta run the ball. That's what Carolina did. They ran all over them.

T-post Tom 09-22-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10009619)
They have the Dline to make the offense miserable.

Gotta run the ball. That's what Carolina did. They ran all over them.

True. Their d-line is scary.

DaFace 09-22-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10009594)
What are we favored by?

Opened at 5, down to 4 at the moment.

(Disclaimer, I only pretend to know how to interpret this stuff.)

kcxiv 09-22-2013 08:24 PM

They were just taalking on Sunday night football about how the giants dline sucks and jjp is hurt.

TLO 09-22-2013 08:25 PM

I just looked and found that we are anywhere from 5 to 3.5 point favorites. Over/under was 44 in most places.

J Diddy 09-22-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10009609)
The Giants are gonna come in swinging. It's gonna be a war.

I'm inclined to believe the same.

Fritz88 09-22-2013 08:26 PM

Really can't rule the Giants out. They have all the tools to win.

Fritz88 09-22-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10009630)
Opened at 5, down to 4 at the moment.

(Disclaimer, I only pretend to know how to interpret this stuff.)

Same here. Hopefully one can shed some light.

alanm 09-22-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10009609)
The Giants are gonna come in swinging. It's gonna be a war.

I was hoping the Giants would win today. Their gonna play like a cornered wounded animal next Sunday. Chiefs better not take them for granted. :shake:

Mav 09-22-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10009658)
I was hoping the Giants would win today. Their gonna play like a cornered wounded animal next Sunday. Chiefs better not take them for granted. :shake:

They wont. Andy wont let them take an NFC EAST team lightly.

Fritz88 09-22-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10009658)
I was hoping the Giants would win today. Their gonna play like a cornered wounded animal next Sunday. Chiefs better not take them for granted. :shake:

And that's when they somehow win games.

alanm 09-22-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10009664)
They wont. Andy wont let them take an NFC EAST team lightly.

Not to mention the Chiefs NEVER play well against the Giants

Chiefs Pantalones 09-22-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10009634)
They were just taalking on Sunday night football about how the giants dline sucks and jjp is hurt.

They have a championship pedigree. With coaching like that, the talent they have...it's not over until their mathematically eliminated. Some of us are acting like 4-0 is a certainty.

CoMoChief 09-22-2013 08:33 PM

The Giants are in shambles offensively. They have no Oline and can't run the football and can't stop turning the ball over. WTF does anyone think that's going to change playing in Arrowhead against a badass defense. I just hope AS and Reid/Pederson can manage a few offensive drives that lead to TD's effectively. Not been a fan of play selection. We need to run the god damn football. Run Charles to the outside or draw/trap plays...that's where he excels. In the Philly game things started happening offensively because we got Charles into the damn game and we started the football. AS can take all the sacks he wants. Taking sacks are ALWAYS better than throwing away INT's to the other team. Love Love LOVE the fact that he's not turning the ball over. There's been a couple times where he almost did, luckily those were breaks that went our way, because a couple were right in the hands. You don't turn the ball over on offense while creating them on defense will lead to W's w/ this team. No longer do we have a QB that completely keeps the entire team down.

BryanBusby 09-22-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10009647)
Really can't rule the Giants out. They have all the tools to win.

Outside of Eli and their receivers, the Giants really don't have the tools to win.

Their offensive line can't block, the Defensive line looks worn out, their LBs are trash, they really can't cover or run or do Special Teams.

DaFace 09-22-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 10009682)
The Giants are in shambles offensively. They have no Oline and can't run the football and can't stop turning the ball over. WTF does anyone think that's going to change playing in Arrowhead against a badass defense. I just hope AS and Reid/Pederson can manage a few offensive drives that lead to TD's effectively. Not been a fan of play selection. We need to run the god damn football. Run Charles to the outside or draw/trap plays...that's where he excels. In the Philly game things started happening offensively because we got Charles into the damn game and we started the football.

Yep. At they same time, if they DO get their shit together, it's still a very capable team.

Red Dawg 09-22-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 10009568)
I believe KC will go 6-0 to start the season with the next three games being the Giants, Titans, and Raiders. The Texans are the first ones that have the talent to hang a loss on KC come week 7.

The way our defense has played I fear no one in the league. I do not have warm fuzzies about the Titans. That defense could be rough.

Chiefs Pantalones 09-22-2013 08:40 PM

Have we traded for Gordon yet? That should be happening yesterday.

Hammock Parties 09-22-2013 08:43 PM

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Mav 09-22-2013 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10009676)
Not to mention the Chiefs NEVER play well against the Giants

I don't know the history of that. I do know however that the Chiefs history in the state of Florida was poor too going into week 1. This is a different Chiefs team.....

Mav 09-22-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10009717)
Have we traded for Gordon yet? That should be happening yesterday.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:mad:

J Diddy 09-22-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10009681)
They have a championship pedigree. With coaching like that, the talent they have...it's not over until their mathematically eliminated. Some of us are acting like 4-0 is a certainty.

I don't know about anyone else, but after last year and pretty much being eliminated in the first month, this is like a superbowl to me. First time in a long time I've felt we've had a legitimate team. Not since Vermeil, and even then I knew what the d was going to do to us.

Now the wildcard is the offense and when I compare the potential of vermeils d vs reids offense I find myself getting excited.

KCrockaholic 09-22-2013 08:46 PM

Even the Texans don't scare me...

Schaub is terrible, and Foster/Tate can be shut down.

Our offensive line will be the biggest issue in that game.

DeezNutz 09-22-2013 08:48 PM

Should be a pretty easy win.

jspchief 09-22-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10009630)
Opened at 5, down to 4 at the moment.

(Disclaimer, I only pretend to know how to interpret this stuff.)

That means the early bets are going to the Giants. Dropping a point is an attempt to get more people betting on KC.

A full point in such a short time is not insignificant.

ChiefGator 09-22-2013 08:48 PM

Our front seven must be licking their chops after watching the highlights of the Carolina-NYG game.

Baby Lee 09-22-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 10009598)
They do have the talent to beat us, but haven't been good thus far. Plus that game is in KC. I think @ Buffalo will be tough, and so will @ Titans...I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves...but we could be 9-0 heading into the bye week to face off against Denver if we play our cards right.

I refuse to make specific predictions at this point.

We are in that spot where we're finally good enough to hang with anyone anywhere, but still have enough question marks to lay an egg at a moment's notice, too.

The next few weeks will be an interesting expose of what the 2013 Chiefs are made of, for good or ill.

I'm 70% less concerned about the Giants than I was the Eagles, but that 30% holds powerful ju-ju. There's just to many players still with them that remember pride and success to lay down like a beta bitch next week.

Buehler445 09-22-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10009561)
Giants fans have to be hating life right now.

Like we were last year after getting blown the **** out the first 3 weeks?

Yeah. I could empathize, but neh. Giants have Super Bowl wins this decade to lean on .

Mav 09-22-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10009783)
Like we were last year after getting blown the **** out the first 3 weeks?

Yeah. I could empathize, but neh. Giants have Super Bowl wins this decade to lean on .

You clearly don't know new York fans lol.

They are on suicide watch, and half of them are planning Coughlins funeral.

Buehler445 09-22-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10009792)
You clearly don't know new York fans lol.

They are on suicide watch, and half of them are planning Coughlins funeral.

No ****s were given.

O.city 09-22-2013 09:05 PM

NO reason we shouldn't beat the shit out of this team.

Outside of Eli and their WR's, they're meh.

saphojunkie 09-22-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10009676)
Not to mention the Chiefs NEVER play well against the Giants

Or in Florida.

Cannibal 09-22-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 10009736)
I don't know about anyone else, but after last year and pretty much being eliminated in the first month, this is like a superbowl to me. First time in a long time I've felt we've had a legitimate team. Not since Vermeil, and even then I knew what the d was going to do to us.

Now the wildcard is the offense and when I compare the potential of vermeils d vs reids offense I find myself getting excited.

Good point.

BossChief 09-22-2013 10:13 PM

We match up extremely well with them.

Their OL can't block the edges and i wouldnt be surprised if Houston and Hali combine for 5 sacks and take the ball away a couple times.

Fat Elvis 09-22-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 10009642)
I just looked and found that we are anywhere from 5 to 3.5 point favorites. Over/under was 44 in most places.

I'd take the under.

ClevelandBronco 09-22-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10009630)
Opened at 5, down to 4 at the moment.

(Disclaimer, I only pretend to know how to interpret this stuff.)

The only thing to know is that Vegas wants half the money on the Giants, half the money on the Chiefs. If too much of the money is going one way, they move the number.

Well, if you're wagering there's a hell of a lot more to know.

O.city 09-22-2013 10:17 PM

They're defense isn't very good and Eli will throw us a few balls.

I'd love to see our offense really start clicking in this game as drop a huge deuce on coughlin

O.city 09-22-2013 10:29 PM

It's crazy that thru 3 weeks, the chiefs have the same number if wins as the entire NFC east

Simply Red 09-22-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10009664)
They wont. Andy wont let them take an NFC EAST team lightly.

Thanks for the update.

philfree 09-22-2013 10:41 PM

Andy Reid is 17-13 vs the Giants. Alex Smith is 1-2 vs the Giants in the last three meetings in 2011 and 2012. We know them and they kind of know us on offense but not our defense. Last time they played the 9ers with Alex Smith he threw 3 INTs. And I hate that they are 0-3 because they'll be looking for any way possible to get off the snigh. I think we go to 4-0 but I don't for one minute think it will be a walk through.

DaWolf 09-22-2013 10:42 PM

I can't remember the last time we beat the Giants...

ClevelandBronco 09-22-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 10010051)
I can't remember the last time we beat the Giants...

Well, the last time I beat the Giant, I...

Wait. We're not talking about the same thing, are we?

ChiefsCountry 09-22-2013 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 10010051)
I can't remember the last time we beat the Giants...

1995

AussieChiefsFan 09-23-2013 12:18 AM

Our D-line and LBs are going to have a field day next week. Not to mention their horrible turnover differential. This one is very winnable.

That being said, the offense has to get going.

AussieChiefsFan 09-23-2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10010048)
Andy Reid is 17-13 vs the Giants. Alex Smith is 1-2 vs the Giants in the last three meetings in 2011 and 2012. We know them and they kind of know us on offense but not our defense. Last time they played the 9ers with Alex Smith he threw 3 INTs. And I hate that they are 0-3 because they'll be looking for any way possible to get off the snigh. I think we go to 4-0 but I don't for one minute think it will be a walk through.

To go along with those stats;

Andy Reid is 17-2 the week after a bye OR Thursday night game.

beach tribe 09-23-2013 12:42 AM

I have a REALLY bad feeling about this game.

Dont know why. I just do.

AussieChiefsFan 09-23-2013 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10010199)
I have a REALLY bad feeling about this game.

Dont know why. I just do.

Didn't you say that about the Eagles game? :D

Mother****erJones 09-23-2013 05:45 AM

Andy Reid is 17-2 after a bye and Thursday game. We just can't let Nicks and Cruz beat us. We've shown we can take guys out of games. Their oline is shit and Houston facing a rookie RT again? Yes please! I trust this defense. Let's see how the offense does. Andy won't let this team overlook the Giants he knows the NFC East. This defense will smell blood like sharks in the water. I'm not expecting a blowout because I'm not impressed with our offense because our oline sucks.

BlackHelicopters 09-23-2013 06:22 AM

Desperate 0-3 team will be desperate.

Marcellus 09-23-2013 06:24 AM

Its hard to go 4-0 and its hard to go 0-4 so it could be interesting.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-23-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 10009568)
I believe KC will go 6-0 to start the season with the next three games being the Giants, Titans, and Raiders. The Texans are the first ones that have the talent to hang a loss on KC come week 7.

Will you still feel this way if Flowers is out ??

Rausch 09-23-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10010549)
Will you still feel this way if Flowers is out ??

Hell no...

Rain Man 09-23-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan (Post 10010206)
Didn't you say that about the Eagles game? :D

If he did, we want him to have the same feeling this week. No one should change anything they think, do, or wear since we've apparently found the right combination.

Titty Meat 09-23-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10009557)
Who the hell would have predicted that before the season started?

I do love the way this sport can completely surprise you every year. It just isn't as much fun when your team is the one that is way below your expectations.

Without a franchise qb? No way.

Halfcan 09-23-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10010301)
Andy Reid is 17-2 after a bye and Thursday game. We just can't let Nicks and Cruz beat us. We've shown we can take guys out of games. Their oline is shit and Houston facing a rookie RT again? Yes please! I trust this defense. Let's see how the offense does. Andy won't let this team overlook the Giants he knows the NFC East. This defense will smell blood like sharks in the water. I'm not expecting a blowout because I'm not impressed with our offense because our oline sucks.

610 was talking about their rookie facing Houston- I guess the Rook has short arms and is more of a power run blocker- pretty terrible at pass coverage-falls for the first move, lots of holding, and was abused last week in carolina.

I didn't see the game- but the stats line looks bad. 38-0 7 sacks and 2 Eli Mae Ints.

Lets hope for more of the same this week. :clap:

KC_Lee 09-23-2013 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 10009568)
I believe KC will go 6-0 to start the season with the next three games being the Giants, Titans, and Raiders. The Texans are the first ones that have the talent to hang a loss on KC come week 7.

The Titans have impressed me so far this season. It looks like CJ has put the whole "gonna get 2,000 yards again" thing behind him and with the addition of Green to the backfield TN has a good 1 - 2 RB combo.

At the begining of the season I would have said KC vs. TN is a win for KC, after the past 3 weeks I am not so sure.

saphojunkie 09-23-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10010199)
I have a REALLY bad feeling about this game.

Dont know why. I just do.

Because the Giants won the super bowl in 2012 and we had the first overall pick last year.

The fact is, almost everyone had this penciled in as a loss at the beginning of the season. Going 3-1 and losing to what has historically been a good team, whose backs are against the wall, who have a two-time Super Bowl MVP at QB with plenty of offensive weapons, who have great pass rushers... There's no shame in that.

Having said that, beating an 0-3 team at Arrowhead, coming off a gutsy ****ing road win over the #2 offense in the NFL, with 10 days to rest and prepare, with the league's best defense, with the league's best turnover ratio, with a home crowd that should be jacked up...

You can't ask for a better situation.

Dunerdr 09-23-2013 10:42 AM

No win will be easy. Excluding the jags. Were still a fringe team this until this offense begins to drive the ball consistently were no better than the ****ing raiders. Our d appears legit but they will get beat by good teams, thats where we need the other side to keep us alive. I realize this is a good team with the room to grow into A great team. But no one should discount the giants they could halfass pull it together and give us a run. Remember when we halfass pulled it together and beat gb?

MahiMike 09-23-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10009615)
I don't think that Buffalo will be that big of a problem.....One thing that was showed today, EJ MANUEL does not handle pressure well at all. The Chiefs will be in his ass all day like Geno Smith bending clay over.

Quotable

Mr. Laz 09-23-2013 10:47 AM

I prefer to stay the underdog

MahiMike 09-23-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 10009658)
I was hoping the Giants would win today. Their gonna play like a cornered wounded animal next Sunday. Chiefs better not take them for granted. :shake:

This is what I was thinking when I saw that unbelievable score. Lose 38-0 to the Carolina freaking Panthers?

The Giants have always been a Jeckyl/Hyde team under Coughlin. Hopefully they're still Hyde next week.

Mr. Laz 09-23-2013 10:48 AM

I think Eli got sacked 4 times in the 1st quarter. Makes him skittish the rest of the game, we should try to do that same. Come early and often.

ReynardMuldrake 09-23-2013 10:54 AM

I think this game will be a real confidence booster. Long week to prepare against an anemic pass rush should get our legs hopefully under our O-line again.

Mike in SW-MO 09-23-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10010698)
If he did, we want him to have the same feeling this week. No one should change anything they think, do, or wear since we've apparently found the right combination.

:hmmm:

Because it's only weird if it doesn't work.

Rausch 09-23-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 10010994)
I think this game will be a real confidence booster. Long week to prepare against an anemic pass rush should get our legs hopefully under our O-line again.

It should be.

I just don't like it. It stinks. I smell gas...

vailpass 09-23-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10010981)
I prefer to stay the underdog

Hard to do when undefeated.

Mr. Laz 09-23-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 10011021)
Hard to do when undefeated.

Yea ... i guess we will see how the team reacts when they receive pub.

ROYC75 09-23-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10010970)
No win will be easy. Excluding the jags. Were still a fringe team this until this offense begins to drive the ball consistently were no better than the ****ing raiders. Our d appears legit but they will get beat by good teams, thats where we need the other side to keep us alive. I realize this is a good team with the room to grow into A great team. But no one should discount the giants they could halfass pull it together and give us a run. Remember when we halfass pulled it together and beat gb?

This ....way too many chicken counting in this thread and the BB.

We are what we are, not what many of us want to be. We haven't proved a damn thing yet on offense and the D is improved just because of the attacking style we are running.

A good coach can game plan around this, easily. A Gimmie ? No way!

Tribal Warfare 09-23-2013 12:17 PM

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Rausch 09-23-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 10011021)
Hard to do when undefeated.

I heard from a buddy at work the Raiders were +1400 on a moneyline bet.

I know it won't happen.

I know this is the game the Ra...duhs...die.

But damn. Damn.

I can see how Vegas pulls suckers in...


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