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Hammock Parties 05-02-2013 01:16 PM

When you have a real balla-ass GM...
 
Your fans pay tribute like this:

http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/5/2...ke-draft-ninja

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As the draft moved along, we had a bit of a running joke about Baalke as a "Draft Ninja". He was wheeling and dealing, moving up and down, and aggressively pursuing the players he wanted. In light of the draft ninja phrase, I figured it was time to get something photoshopped. The photo on the front page does not show the entire thing, so here it is. I'm tempted to make this the Niners Nation twitter avatar.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/25...nja_medium.jpg

Hoover 05-02-2013 01:18 PM

You have the ability to make all sorts of moves when you are loaded with picks and don't really have any big holes to fill in the draft.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2013 01:18 PM

Jealous.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/2/2...m-trent-dilfer

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I've been saying it for a couple years and people are starting to see it. Trent Baalke, the general manager, is the best general manager in football. And I don't know if second place is very close.

He has done an incredible job in a short amount of time building this team and stockpiling these picks. I mean, this trade, as many good things as I said about Alex, is stealing for the Niners. I cannot believe they got a set second and a conditional out of this. Especially since they most likely were going to cut him, and I know they came out and said they weren't going to. I think the end gain was that. So, I think the 49ers hit a home run on this one.

They are set up to be successful for not just next year and the year after that, but five, six, seven years. I really believe, and living here in the Bay Area and watching this team closely and knowing a lot of the guys, I really think you're going to see - I don't want to use the word ‘dynasty' - but a 49ers organization that for the next five to 10 years will consistently be making a run in the NFC to get to the Super Bowl.

Hoover 05-02-2013 01:20 PM

Someone traded for Matt Effin Flynn dumbass. They were never going to cut Smith.

Dave Lane 05-02-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 9652849)
Someone traded for Matt Effin Flynn dumbass. They were never going to cut Smith.

A 5th rounder in 2014 hardly the same

GoChargers 05-02-2013 01:29 PM

Baalke isn't the best GM, IMO, Ozzie Newsome is. But Balke is up there.

Ming the Merciless 05-02-2013 03:00 PM

I truly believe niners homers need to wait one more season before crowning Kapernick as some sort of dynasty QB. As we all know, they won't do shit in the playoffs without a top QB.

Lets see how Kap does when people have had a chance to properly prepare for him....(yes it might be difficult....but I think he just flat out surprised people last year)


I really won't be surprised if seattle wins the nfc west in 2013-14

J Diddy 05-02-2013 03:05 PM

You should go be a 49ers fan. That'd be great.

AlexSmithDynasty 05-02-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9653141)
I truly believe niners homers need to wait one more season before crowning Kapernick as some sort of dynasty QB. As we all know, they won't do shit in the playoffs without a top QB.

Lets see how Kap does when people have had a chance to properly prepare for him....(yes it might be difficult....but I think he just flat out surprised people last year)


I really won't be surprised if seattle wins the nfc west in 2013-14

I'm a Niner fan and this is what I have been saying about Kaep, people in the Bay Area are ridiculously creaming their pants over this guy and while I like him, I'm not ready to crown him a hall of famer after 10 games where a lot of his success came from what I consider a gimmick offense. I don't think the read option will last long term in the NFL and now that teams have some film on him and the Niners new look offense they're gonna have to adjust. He's got great physical tools and is set up for success but some Niners fans are ridiculous already saying he's going to be one of the best qb's of all time. However, I think Kaep is way better than Wilson and I think he and the Seahawks are way overrated and the Niners will stomp them and win the division. Baalke really is the best GM outside of maybe Newsome who has the rings. Baalke gets amazing value and productive players in the mid to late rounds. Even though I think Alex Smith is a good player that trade was a steal, I expected a 4th round pick would get the deal done.

ChiefAshhole20 05-02-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 9653177)
I'm a Niner fan and this is what I have been saying about Kaep, people in the Bay Area are ridiculously creaming their pants over this guy and while I like him, I'm not ready to crown him a hall of famer after 10 games where a lot of his success came from what I consider a gimmick offense. I don't think the read option will last long term in the NFL and now that teams have some film on him and the Niners new look offense they're gonna have to adjust. He's got great physical tools and is set up for success but some Niners fans are ridiculous already saying he's going to be one of the best qb's of all time. However, I think Kaep is way better than Wilson and I think he and the Seahawks are way overrated and the Niners will stomp them and win the division. Baalke really is the best GM outside of maybe Newsome who has the rings. Baalke gets amazing value and productive players in the mid to late rounds. Even though I think Alex Smith is a good player that trade was a steal, I expected a 4th round pick would get the deal done.

What are you doing here?

RealSNR 05-02-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 9653177)
I'm a Niner fan and this is what I have been saying about Kaep, people in the Bay Area are ridiculously creaming their pants over this guy and while I like him, I'm not ready to crown him a hall of famer after 10 games where a lot of his success came from what I consider a gimmick offense. I don't think the read option will last long term in the NFL and now that teams have some film on him and the Niners new look offense they're gonna have to adjust. He's got great physical tools and is set up for success but some Niners fans are ridiculous already saying he's going to be one of the best qb's of all time. However, I think Kaep is way better than Wilson and I think he and the Seahawks are way overrated and the Niners will stomp them and win the division. Baalke really is the best GM outside of maybe Newsome who has the rings. Baalke gets amazing value and productive players in the mid to late rounds. Even though I think Alex Smith is a good player that trade was a steal, I expected a 4th round pick would get the deal done.

Uh-huh. Right. And Steve DeBerg was better than John Elway. Broncos were overrated.

Homer.

tk13 05-02-2013 03:27 PM

Good stuff. If Clark knew what he was doing he'd also hire a guy with a Parcells connection to run the Chiefs.
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Sorter 05-02-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 9653177)
where a lot of his success came from what I consider a gimmick offense.

It isn't a gimmick offense. The beauty of Harbaugh/Roman incorporating the ZR and plays run out of the pistol is that they still utilize viable passing concepts.

The ZR places a tremendous amount of stress (for lack of a better word at the moment) upon defenses. As a defense, your drops are slower, you can't use traps as you'd like, etc. due to the fact you have to play the run and account for the pass, while still being able to acknowledge the QB as a runner.

AlexSmithDynasty 05-02-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9653184)
Uh-huh. Right. And Steve DeBerg was better than John Elway. Broncos were overrated.

Homer.

Wilson's short ass hit his ceiling already, everyone just talks him up because he was a feel good story. Seahawks will implode, they got a bunch of team cancers and Carroll acts more like a pop warner dad than an NFL coach on the sideline. Wilson will regress and when things start to go sour Carroll won't be able to control his team and they will unravel. By far the most overrated team going into next season.

Sorter 05-02-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 9653208)
Wilson's short ass hit his ceiling already, everyone just talks him up because he was a feel good story. Seahawks will implode, they got a bunch of team cancers and Carroll acts more like a pop warner dad than an NFL coach on the sideline. Wilson will regress and when things start to go sour Carroll won't be able to control his team and they will unravel. By far the most overrated team going into next season.

While I don't doubt that Wilson can regress this season, I don't feel it will be due to "team cancers".


Additionally, I fail to see how they're the "most overrated team going into next season" when people think that KC is going to challenge for a division title this year.

AlexSmithDynasty 05-02-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9653228)
While I don't doubt that Wilson can regress this season, I don't feel it will be due to "team cancers".


Additionally, I fail to see how they're the "most overrated team going into next season" when people think that KC is going to challenge for a division title this year.

Espn has the Hawks ranked number 1 in their post draft power rankings, that is extremely overrated. KC may not win the division but I expect them to get a wild card spot this year.

Chief Roundup 05-02-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9653148)
You should go be a 49ers fan. That'd be great.

We couldn't get so lucky.

Sorter 05-02-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 9653251)
Espn has the Hawks ranked number 1 in their post draft power rankings, that is extremely overrated. KC may not win the division but I expect them to get a wild card spot this year.

I don't agree with Seattle being ranked #1 and I don't think KC is close to contention for a WC, given the depth of the AFC.
E-Pats
N-Ravens
S-Colts
W-Broncos

You then have Pitt and Cincy locking up the WCs IMO. Depending on the development of their QBs, Tennessee and Miami could make a push for a WC spot.

Deberg_1990 05-02-2013 05:57 PM

Can we at least wait until we see what the Chiefs do in the regular season before we judge and compare Dorsey?

Baalke has done a great job, but his best move was hiring Harbaugh. They were pretty horrible prior to that and Baaalke has been with the team since 2005.

GoChargers 05-02-2013 05:58 PM

Seahawks are freaking stacked and Wilson is a beast. Anyone who un-ironically chooses "AlexSmithDynasty" as their username should not get to have football opinions.

AlexSmithDynasty 05-02-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9653400)
I don't agree with Seattle being ranked #1 and I don't think KC is close to contention for a WC, given the depth of the AFC.
E-Pats
N-Ravens
S-Colts
W-Broncos

You then have Pitt and Cincy locking up the WCs IMO. Depending on the development of their QBs, Tennessee and Miami could make a push for a WC spot.

Chiefs have a real easy schedule, and those AFC North teams will take wins away from each other. Tennessee and Miami aren't as good as the Chiefs. I think losing Arians who was pretty much the head coach for the Colts last year will hurt them. I think Houston wins that division and Indy misses the playoffs this year. Also wouldn't surprise me for Baltimore to miss the playoffs.

LoneWolf 05-02-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9653528)
Seahawks are freaking stacked and Wilson is a beast. Anyone who un-ironically chooses "AlexSmithDynasty" as their username should not get to have football opinions.

AlexSmithDynasty = GoChargers so STFU

chiefzilla1501 05-02-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9653400)
I don't agree with Seattle being ranked #1 and I don't think KC is close to contention for a WC, given the depth of the AFC.
E-Pats
N-Ravens
S-Colts
W-Broncos

You then have Pitt and Cincy locking up the WCs IMO. Depending on the development of their QBs, Tennessee and Miami could make a push for a WC spot.

Meh, is it really that packed? Miami, Houston/Indy, San Diego, Cincinnati. That's our competition for a wild card spot. I think Miami, SD, and Cinci are adequate. Indy is overrated and the product of an incredibly easy schedule.

The Chiefs went 7-9 with Kyle Orton as QB and without Jamaal Charles. I certainly think they can match that. I think they go 9-7 or 10-6. But no, they won't be any threat in the playoffs with Alex Smith at QB.

AlexSmithDynasty 05-02-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9653523)
Can we at least wait until we see what the Chiefs do in the regular season before we judge and compare Dorsey?

Baalke has done a great job, but his best move was hiring Harbaugh. They were pretty horrible prior to that and Baaalke has been with the team since 2005.

Baalke was promoted to GM in 2011, he was in the scouting department before that and Scot McCloughan was the GM until he was fired for being an alcoholic in 2010. Even prior to 2011 the front office had built up a good amount of talent the team just had inept coaching, kind of like last year's Chiefs.

AlexSmithDynasty 05-02-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9653541)
AlexSmithDynasty = GoChargers so STFU

What do you mean?

LoneWolf 05-02-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 9653568)
What do you mean?

Both usernames are equally pathetic.

Cannibal 05-02-2013 06:12 PM

Enjoy your new team Clay.

GoChargers 05-02-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9653541)
AlexSmithDynasty = GoChargers so STFU

Being born as a Chargers fan is still preferable to deluding yourself into thinking Alice Smiff will ever be responsible for a dynasty. LMAO

J Diddy 05-02-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal (Post 9653576)
Enjoy your new team Clay.

This. I'll help him pack.

AlexSmithDynasty 05-02-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 9653577)
Being born as a Chargers fan is still preferable to deluding yourself into thinking Alice Smiff will ever be responsible for a dynasty. LMAO

Lol Chargers remember 94? People blame concussions for what Seau did, what really happened was he re-watched that superbowl and couldn't live with the embarrassment anymore.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2013 06:24 PM

Shut up you little whiny bitches. The only reason I'm so pissed off around here is because the Chiefs ARE my team.

Hootie 05-02-2013 06:32 PM

I'll go ahead and end the 'wait and see' mode for you...

Kaep is a stud and a legit franchise QB. Top 5.

Ming the Merciless 05-02-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9653620)
I'll go ahead and end the 'wait and see' mode for you...

Kaep is a stud and a legit franchise QB. Top 5.

Awesome, now we all know the truth is the opposite.

Your services are appreciated.

Deberg_1990 05-02-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice (Post 9653604)
Shut up you little whiny bitches.

Your the biggest whiner on this board. Everything you write is negative. Get out of the house, get a job and get laid sometime dude.

Hammock Parties 05-02-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9653642)
Your the biggest whiner on this board. Everything you write is negative. Get out of the house, get a job and get laid sometime dude.

Who's more whiny, the whiner or the whiner that whines about the whiner?

Hootie 05-02-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9653639)
Awesome, now we all know the truth is the opposite.

Your services are appreciated.

Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick are the next big thing in the NFL. I'd take both of them over my distant 3rd place guy, Andrew Luck.

Sorter 05-02-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 9653533)
Chiefs have a real easy schedule, and those AFC North teams will take wins away from each other. Tennessee and Miami aren't as good as the Chiefs. I think losing Arians who was pretty much the head coach for the Colts last year will hurt them. I think Houston wins that division and Indy misses the playoffs this year. Also wouldn't surprise me for Baltimore to miss the playoffs.

I think that Indy hiring Luck's college OC is going to provide significant benefits. JMO though

the Talking Can 05-02-2013 07:13 PM

you know how you become a great GM?


trade with the chiefs

Sorter 05-02-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9653544)
Meh, is it really that packed? Miami, Houston/Indy, San Diego, Cincinnati. That's our competition for a wild card spot. I think Miami, SD, and Cinci are adequate. Indy is overrated and the product of an incredibly easy schedule.

The Chiefs went 7-9 with Kyle Orton as QB and without Jamaal Charles. I certainly think they can match that. I think they go 9-7 or 10-6. But no, they won't be any threat in the playoffs with Alex Smith at QB.

I can see this happening

@Jacksonville Loss
vs. Dallas Loss
@Philly Loss
vs. NYG Loss
@ Tennessee Win
vs. Oakland Win
vs. Houston Loss
vs. Cleveland Loss
@ Buffalo Win
@ Denver Loss
vs. Chargers Win
vs. Denver Loss
@ Washington Loss
@Oakland Loss
vs. Indy Loss
@ San Diego Loss

Sorter 05-02-2013 07:15 PM

I see us splitting with Oakland and SD. Jacksonville, Philly, Tennessee, Cleveland, Buffalo are all toss ups. I went entirely pessimistic.

chiefzilla1501 05-02-2013 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9653692)
I can see this happening

@Jacksonville Loss
vs. Dallas Loss
@Philly Loss
vs. NYG Loss
@ Tennessee Win
vs. Oakland Win
vs. Houston Loss
vs. Cleveland Loss
@ Buffalo Win
@ Denver Loss
vs. Chargers Win
vs. Denver Loss
@ Washington Loss
@Oakland Loss
vs. Indy Loss
@ San Diego Loss

We can beat Jacksonville, Philly, and Cleveland (even if Cleveland is better than they look). Houston and Indy are absolute winnable games and two teams who should come back down to earth after their cakewalk schedule last year. Washington and Dallas are beatable.

If Sutton gets our defense to at least 2011 level, this team could break .500. We face some good competition, but not a lot of elite competition.

Hootie 05-03-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9653700)
I see us splitting with Oakland and SD. Jacksonville, Philly, Tennessee, Cleveland, Buffalo are all toss ups. I went entirely pessimistic.

You went entirely reerun.

Hootie 05-03-2013 10:19 AM

This schedule, on paper, is every bit as easy as 2010.

FRCDFED 05-03-2013 11:08 AM

I can see a lot of play action passing utilizing crossing routes and shorter timing routes to help Alex Smith. Charles will keep the LB's honest so they can't drop too deep into coverage.

The X-factor is going to be the TE play this year. I think they are going to play a big role and heavily influence Smith's overall success in this offensive system.

I'm not sure how Charles is going to be reading blocks from a FB after operating out of a single back set so often but I am hopeful that the blocking schemes will spring Charles and lead to more 10+ yard runs.

If Fisher and the new TE we drafted are as nasty as some on here claim then I am excited to watch our offense finally start to push other teams around. It gets old watching the other team in the backfield all the time.

BigCatDaddy 05-03-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 9654878)
This schedule, on paper, is every bit as easy as 2010.

And that's the scary thing. It's likely to post postpone needed change at the QB position just like Cassell backing ass into the 2010 playoffs did.

FRCDFED 05-03-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9654982)
And that's the scary thing. It's likely to post postpone needed change at the QB position just like Cassell backing ass into the 2010 playoffs did.

As long as we finally have a GM that can draft talent then idc where we draft. We have been cursed so many times by drafting crap in the first couple of rounds while other teams picked up studs!

Rausch 05-03-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 9653141)
I truly believe niners homers need to wait one more season before crowning Kapernick as some sort of dynasty QB.

This.

Year 2 is hell for QB's...

FRCDFED 05-03-2013 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9654989)
This.

Year 2 is hell for QB's...

"Yeah, especially for running QB's." - RGIII

King_Chief_Fan 05-03-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED (Post 9654976)
I can see a lot of play action passing utilizing crossing routes and shorter timing routes to help Alex Smith. Charles will keep the LB's honest so they can't drop too deep into coverage.

The X-factor is going to be the TE play this year. I think they are going to play a big role and heavily influence Smith's overall success in this offensive system.

I'm not sure how Charles is going to be reading blocks from a FB after operating out of a single back set so often but I am hopeful that the blocking schemes will spring Charles and lead to more 10+ yard runs.

If Fisher and the new TE we drafted are as nasty as some on here claim then I am excited to watch our offense finally start to push other teams around. It gets old watching the other team in the backfield all the time.

I think the o will be more exciting. I am afraid the d will be somewhat the same


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